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Troopergate: Less than critics wanted, but still trouble

posted at 8:49 am on October 11, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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I’ve read through the Troopergate report and some of the commentary arising from it, and the McCain/Palin ticket appears to have a mixed bag.  The report acknowledges the obvious: Governor Sarah Palin has the right to fire political appointees for whatever reason she desires.  The termination of Walt Monegan was completely within her purview and her authority.  However, we hold politicians to higher standards, or at least we should, and the report’s conclusion that she abused her power in light of her husband’s actions in attempting to get Trooper Mike Wooten fired will stick in voters’ minds in the final days of the election.

Jazz Shaw, no Palin fan, notes the ethics issue for the prosecution:

The report says Palin failed to reign in her husband’s inappropriate efforts to use the governor’s office to contact trooper employees in his attempts to have Wooten fired.

Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda … to get Trooper Michael Wooten fired,” Branchflower’s report says.

Compliance with the code of ethics is not optional. It is an individual responsibility imposed by law, and any effort to benefit a personal interest through official action is a violation of that trust. … The term ‘benefit’ is very broadly defined, and includes anything that is to the person’s advantage or personal self-interest.”

The result of this is that the report will be turned over to the President of the State Senate for possible disciplinary action. McCain’s supporters are already in full swing, furiously trying to spin the report into something palatable, but it’s hard to see this as anything but another black eye for the Arizona Senator’s campaign. The responses will say that Palin didn’t technically break any laws. (Well, I suppose that’s technically true on some levels, assuming you don’t think of ethics laws as… errr, you know.. “laws.’) They are also decrying the investigation as a partisan witch hunt. (The panel convened to investigate this was comprised of eight Republicans and four Democrats.)

The investigation started at the request of another Republican — Sarah Palin.  The allegations of a “partisan witch hunt” began when the legislative master of the investigation, Democratic state Senator Hollis French, started promising an “October Surprise” and embarrassment for John McCain before one witness had even been deposed.  French further clouded the investigation by interfering with subpoenas, blocking one for a witness to a meeting in which all other attendees had been subpoenaed … and that witness had run the meeting, and was also Palin’s chief of staff.  There is plenty of evidence that French wanted a partisan outcome and not justice.

But still, if Todd Palin was bullying people to fire a non-political appointee for personal reasons, using the implied authority of his wife, and Sarah Palin knew about it and didn’t stop it, that would be a breach of ethics.  Most people would agree that a police officer who drank alcohol in his patrol car, tasered his 10-year-old stepson, and threatened to murder his estranged wife’s father should not be working in law enforcement.  All of those allegations were confirmed by Alaska in an investigation.  However, the job of trooper is not a political appointment, and if Todd Palin acted in a manner reported by this investigation, it would be improper and subject to some sort of censure from the Legislature.

That’s a big if, though, and the matter is far from closed. Beldar, speaking for the defense, notes that the report reflects the opinion of one man hired by French, and has not yet been accepted by the Legislature:

Even the Anchorage Daily News is misrepresenting the meaning of this report: I just received an email update from it in which it claims that “Today Alaska legislators found Palin did abuse her power in the ‘Troopergate’ controversy.” That’s absolutely false — the Alaska Legislature is not in session, and all that happened today was that the 12-member Legislative Council that received the Branchflower Report voted unanimously to release its first volume (the 263-page .pdf file linked above) to the public. Several more volumes and hundreds more pages prepared by Branchflower still remain confidential — suggesting that Branchflower’s selective quotations in the report may well have been “cherry-picked” or taken out of context — but the governor’s office has itself posted quite a few more documents pertaining to the investigation on the internet, confirming Gov. Palin’s repeated statements that she has nothing to hide in this entire matter.

Beldar, an attorney himself, also has some criticism for the investigator:

Instead, Branchfire has piled a guess (that the Palins wanted Wooten fired, rather than, for example, counseled, disciplined, or reassigned) on top of an inference (that when the Palins expressed concern to Monegan about Wooten, they were really threatening to fire Monegan if he didn’t fire Wooten) on top of an innuendo (that Gov. Palin “fired” Monegan at least in part because of his failure to fire Wooten) — from which Branchflower then leaps to a legal conclusion: “abuse of authority.” Branchflower reads the Ethics Act to prohibit any governmental action or decision made for justifiable reasons benefiting the State if that action or decision might also make a public official happy for any other reason. That would mean, of course, that governors must never act or decide in a way that makes them personally happy as a citizen, or as a wife or mother or daughter, and that they could only take actions or make decisions which left them feeling neutral or upset. This an incredibly shoddy tower of supposition, and a ridiculous misreading of the law.

Branchflower puts under a microscope every direct and indirect contact that can possibly be claimed to to come, directly or indirectly, from Gov. Palin or her husband, Todd. In none of them did either Sarah or Todd Palin demand or request that Wooten be fired. Some of them date back to before Gov. Palin was even a candidate for governor. All of them are equally well explained by legitimate concerns that Wooten was a potential threat to the Palin family (having already made death threats against Gov. Palin’s father) and/or an embarrassment to the Alaska Department of Public Safety and the entire state law enforcement community. That the Palins also had strong — and entirely understandable! — negative feelings about Trooper Wooten does not make any of these communications remotely improper, much less illegal.

Nevertheless, Branchflower leaps to the personal conclusion (page 67 of the .pdf file) that “such claims of fear were not bona fide and were offered to provide cover for the Palins’ real motivation: to get Trooper Wooten fired for personal family related reasons.” Well, here’s another memo to Mr. Branchflower: When the family is question is the family of the Governor of Alaska, and when her security detail is charged with protecting her from threats, and in the process of that, the security detail actively seeks out information as to who may have previously made death threats against the family, that’s no longer solely a “personal family related reason.” And when someone like Trooper Wooten threatens to bring ridicule and shame to the entire state of Alaska, that’s no longer solely a “personal family related reason” either.

Branchflower, I’m told, is an attorney and a former prosecutor. If he thinks this kind of nonsense could support a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt, or even a finding of proof by a preponderance of the evidence, then he may be the worst lawyer I’ve ever encountered — and I’ve met a lot of awful ones in almost three decades before the bar.

That brings us to the main point of this exercise.  It will produce no certainty whatsoever, thanks to the Legislative Council’s inaction in the face of Hollis French’s efforts to turn this investigation into a present for Barack Obama.  The LC should have bounced both French and Branchflower after the “October Surprise” comment and replaced them with people of less partisan temperament.  Instead, we have a report that both clears the Governor and indicts her spouse in a contradictory, confusing judgment that appears to have been looking for some self-justification for all of the time and money spent on it.

Palin runs almost zero risk of any sort of rebuke on the basis of this report in Alaska, but the election may be a different matter.  The phrase “abuse of power” resonates with voters, even when it’s applied to the candidate’s spouse.  Had the report come out two months ago, when no one paid any attention, it would probably be a nothingburger.  Now, with three weeks left in the campaign, it’s going to dent the reform message of John McCain, which was the main reason he asked Palin to be his running mate.  It won’t convince current supporters to reject McCain, but it will make it a little more difficult to convince undecideds.


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Have you heard of the fact that the out of power party ALWAYS gets the benefit of a bad economy? Any rep would be suffering, but McCain is suffering more because of his perceived gaffs.

csdeven

Umm…who’s been running Congress the past 2 years? Which party is at the heart of the mortgage mess right now?

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM

This is so laughable. Liberals are doing backflips over this nothingness, but Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd are still sitting in their chairs? Obama donated how much to Acorn? This is a joke, and if this is the way the county is headed, well eventually other options might have to be thrown on the table.

gator70 on October 11, 2008 at 10:06 AM

I say “Great!” By all means, let’s have another round of “Who’s the dirtiest candidate here?” Over the top headlines and talking points from the Dims only reinforce how one-sided the MSM are.
Palin needs to get out there today and say, “Hey, I asked for this inquiry. I’ve read the results. That’s all you’ve got? One political hack ‘personally believes’ I did something wrong, although I broke no laws??? That’s the story? No… really, that’s the story?”

Sugar Land on October 11, 2008 at 10:09 AM

Hey John McCain these are pro Obama jerks that came up with this crap and i am sure they did it with the full suport of the Obama campain.Do you want us to respect these people also? You need to get your head out of the sand and relize Obama and his people (DO NOT RESPECT YOU OR GOV.PALIN AND WANT TO DESTORY YOU )this is not the U S Sen. and is not some game this war and the future of our country!!!

thmcbb on October 11, 2008 at 10:09 AM

DrSteve on October 11, 2008 at 10:01 AM

Why bother trying to reason with the KoolAid King Bradky?

Jamson64 on October 11, 2008 at 10:11 AM

Which is worse…Troopergate or the fact that the Obama supporting ACORN registering fraudulent voters in key battleground states(funny how they’re not registering poor people in all 57 50 states)?

For people like Trent and ky…which is worse? Fraud in the coming election from the Obama supporting ACORN or the firing of a trooper in Alaska?

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 10:13 AM

The game’s essentially over. Time to lay blame and think of what might’ve (and should’ve) been.

Trent1289 on October 11, 2008 at 10:00 AM

The game has been over since BO got into the race. There may have been a time months ago when the right could have damaged him with attacks but the right doesn’t attack. They just sit back and hope for the best and think the truth will always prevail. The right never turns the other cheek. They rather slap themselves in the hope of not upsetting their attacker.
 
The one thing I can say about this election is that I have learned a lot about both the left and right and I don’t think I like either side. One comes across as raving lunatics and the other as complete cowards not willing to fight for what they believe. One side is proud of their hateful lying ways and the other is not willing to fight for what they believe.
 
Both sides richly deserve what they are about to get and I’m sure both will be immensely unhappy when they realize what they have done.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 10:13 AM

The term ‘benefit’ is very broadly defined, and includes anything that is to the person’s advantage or personal self-interest.”

Gee, would that include things like earmarking over 3/4 of a Billion taxpayer dollars in your 1/2-term Senate career so you can pay off supporters back home, or giving a million dollar earmark to your wife’s employer? Are those the kind of “benefits” they mean?

I don’t think Obama wants to get into a contest about “ethics” with Sarah Palin — or anybody else, for that matter. This is the same guy who entered into a sweetheart deal with a convicted felon (Rezko) to purchase a house in Chicago — at $300,000 below the asking price, in a seller’s market.

AZCoyote on October 11, 2008 at 10:13 AM

My comment isn’t about the report itself, but about the “abuse of power” headlines I’ve seen all morning. You know, if it was a Dem candidate the headlines would read “….not guilty of any legal wrongdoing.” With the ethics concerns buried at the bottom of the article/news report. Just sayin’.

vcferlita on October 11, 2008 at 10:14 AM

How about the ethics of a nominee of a party falling on his sword in the waning days of an election in deference to the respect that should be given to a socialist lying about his past.

Starlink on October 11, 2008 at 10:08 AM

Yeap. So where do we go from here ? I keep thinking that by electing Obama the sorry assed republicans at all levels will be purged. Maybe we can get a clean start on 2012. Kinda like having bone cancer. Sometimes you have to kill off the marrow and regenerate anew to cure the patient.

JonRoss on October 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM

Both sides richly deserve what they are about to get and I’m sure both will be immensely unhappy when they realize what they have done.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Yeap

JonRoss on October 11, 2008 at 10:17 AM

Based on the number of trolls and astroturfing today, the moonbats must be very nervous.

CC

CapedConservative on October 11, 2008 at 10:21 AM

but let’s not turn into a bunch of cannibals here.

DrSteve on October 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM

It’s the only thing republicans and conservatives know how to do. Let’s face it, liberals defend their own to the bitter end and beyond. Conservatives are nothing more than liberal attack dogs used to go after conservatives. They are the best weapons liberals have against conservatives.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 10:21 AM

One side is proud of their hateful lying ways and the other is not willing to fight for what they believe.

Both sides richly deserve what they are about to get and I’m sure both will be immensely unhappy when they realize what they have done.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 10:13 AM

The Fact that Maccain won’t fight…I’ve lost my stomach for this race. I just want Palin to do well and continue to develop on the national stage handling national issues.

This election is the true defination of a crap sandwhich for us Republicans…

Dritanian on October 11, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Palin & Jindal would have won this thing.

Dritanian on October 11, 2008 at 10:23 AM

Ed – Let’s re-phrase the headline : Less than Allah wanted, but enough for pessimism to endure.

Fuquay Steve on October 11, 2008 at 10:23 AM

I don’t see how having more than one motive, especially when the primary motive is strong and valid on its own and it’s an at will employee, can be called an abuse of discretion.

This finding is pretzel logic.

Blake on October 11, 2008 at 10:24 AM

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Way to hang in there Sparky. True grit you are not.

Fuquay Steve on October 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM

It disgusts me that the media will be all over this, unabashedly, fomenting, frothing, gnashing their teeth when the quite OBVIOUS issue of Acorn, campaign fund weirdness, Ayers connection, Tony Rezco, Farakkan, the socialist party membership, and, the biggie, Fannie/Freddie-Raines and Obama kickbacks are not even worthy of their time.

No, it is so much more unethical to really, really want to fire the heck out of a dangerous man in uniform and the guy who subverted a governor’s authority. Whatever you say, MSM.

Mommypundit on October 11, 2008 at 10:29 AM

This is a good preview of what we will get with a Democratic president, Senate and House of Representatives. Dodd, Frank and all Democrats will be firmly in place and above reproach. Witch hunts will be in full force on all Republicans.

Star20 on October 11, 2008 at 10:29 AM

Ed

Tasering a child rings with the voters – a bit louder!

In fact this coul boomerang – all Sarah has to say is

Hey I protect mine and all Alaska families from out of control death dealing state troopers who are committing heinous crimes and threats

game over

stop the bleeding Ed, its been a rough election season for everyone – this is not a present but a bomb waiting to be thrown

Its a political party actually investigating someone and defending a wife abusing child torturing death threat to senior citizens issuing scumbag?

Even for democrats thats got to make some cringe

Just goes to show the scum total scum that they are

EricPWJohnson on October 11, 2008 at 10:30 AM

Way to hang in there Sparky. True grit you are not.

Fuquay Steve on October 11, 2008 at 10:25 AM

Thanks I appreciate being recognized as having one of the more desired conservative qualities. For a while there I thought that my voting for McCain was going to get me rejected by conservatives but I feel a little better now.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 10:32 AM

For people like Trent and ky…which is worse? Fraud in the coming election from the Obama supporting ACORN or the firing of a trooper in Alaska?

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Obviously voter fraud is worse. An order of magnitude worse.

But, again, you’re missing the point. No one is saying this is WORSE than anything Obama has done. All we’re saying is that this will play badly. (and I was pointing out that this could’ve been avoided with a different VP pick).
Think about it: ACRON is an “independent” organization which merely endorses Obama. In the current media environment he has deniability. The other is the VP nominee. It just looks worse. If you don’t think we’ll see “abuse of authority” in ads and in the debate on Wednesday, you’re living in a different reality.

Trent1289 on October 11, 2008 at 10:32 AM

For people like Trent and ky…which is worse? Fraud in the coming election from the Obama supporting ACORN or the firing of a trooper in Alaska?

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Dishonesty and abuse of power is wrong. Period. You can’t use the actions of one side to justify your own if you are intellectually honest.

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 10:33 AM

I have a plan. As much as I loathe the use of –gate (honestly, is there anything more annoying?), we need to fight stupid with stupid and apply it to Obama.

Ayersgate, Wrightgate, Acorngate, Fanniegate, Freddiegate.

That’s the code word for the dumbed down electorate to pay attention and think something actually happened.

reaganaut on October 11, 2008 at 10:35 AM

Unless McCain somehow wins, this is the end of Palin’s aspirations for high office. She’s a goner. The media mudslide is too powerful and this black mark on her record may as well be a coffin.

LibTired on October 11, 2008 at 10:36 AM

acorn-subprime mortgages-Fannie Mae Freddie Mack- Barney Frank,Chris Dodd,-Economic meltdown vs Troopergate.

Tazz 55 on October 11, 2008 at 10:36 AM

Unless McCain somehow wins, this is the end of Palin’s aspirations for high office. She’s a goner. The media mudslide is too powerful and this black mark on her record may as well be a coffin.

LibTired

Oh please, Barack should’ve been a goner when he first ran in with the New Party 1996 with the backing of Ayers.

Nice try though…

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 10:38 AM

I haven’t decided if you are a troll or not. And that has been the case since the early primaries.

csdeven on October 11, 2008 at 10:00 AM

There was a time a couple of years ago when you were pretty nasty toward me. The point is this CS; Kos kids equals mindless sheep as evidenced by their actions and myopic view. The GOP is headed in that direction with its hypersensitivity and ends justifies the means mentality.
I happen to care about the fate of the GOP. Contentious yes but people should not be afraid to be objective about their own party should they?
If you can understand that then you understand me.

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 10:38 AM

Sarah Palin is hitting Obama on Infant Born Alive act right now. Finally! Why are they finally going after him about this?

terryannonline on October 11, 2008 at 10:38 AM

It’s only trouble because the media is so on the bag for Obama. Heck, even fox news was running with the headline ABUSE OF POWER. You think people sitting in a bar are going to hear the details discussed that show how ridiculuous that headline is?

aikidoka on October 11, 2008 at 10:41 AM

The GOP is headed in that direction with its hypersensitivity and ends justifies the means mentality.
I happen to care about the fate of the GOP.

That last line made me laugh for some reason…since I think it’s one of the most insincere things I’ve read this morning.

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 10:42 AM

since I think it’s one of the most insincere things I’ve read this morning.

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 10:42 AM

And your basis for that is?

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 10:44 AM

Curious, I never hear about the money Barack got for his wife’s employer to the tune of $1million from the faux-indignant GOP lovers here. Once again, troopergate is more important though…

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Palin needs a “Checkers” press conference.

(1) She notes that she invited an independent inquiry. (2) She points out that it got hijacked by a Democratic partisan (French) who should have been dropped from the investigation. (3) She emphasizes that she committed no crime. (4) She acknowledges that the investigators found that she didn’t do enough to rein in her husband. (5) She admits that in light of [laundry list Trooper Wooten's bad acts] she and her husband allowed concern for family to override her role as governor.

Then, she says that’s fine, with the polls as they are, the media will have only three more weeks to kick her and her family around.

But, in the meantime, [and here she takes out the big guns] she emphasizes that the American people will need to decide whether they really want a president who… [go for Obama's jugular--everything, holding nothing back]. Here, she even throws in that as bad as our federal government failed us in the past several years, it never introduced crack and HIV into communities of color to exterminate them as Obama’s pastor had taught.

She continues by acknowledging that McCain’s been accused of being out of touch with people’s pain, and she acknowledges his wealth, but then she immediately turns the tables to point out that very few of us have known five and a half years of privation as McCain. Think about that: are any of us suffering anything near that by comparison? Very few of us have been reduced to nothing as McCain has.

She then emphasizes that we’re likely headed into an extended period of economic difficulty. Here, she returns to that theme of personal responsibility she mentioned in her debate. It doesn’t have to be harsh medicine; it can be a communal form of self-examination in which we all stop and consider what role we played: second and third mortgages; average of $10,000 or more of credit card debt carried month to month; borrowing against 401(k) plans for discretionary things. She develops a theme that Americans need to start looking within rather than looking to government. Sure, government is available for the truly needy, but we should largely be looking to family, friends, and other associations (the good ones) to lift us up. Look to leaders to lead but not to live our lives for us. In the end, she says that we all need to look in the mirror to see where we might have gone wrong before pulling together to right our national ship. She emphasizes the notion of shared sacrifice and that we’re going to need to pull together because even as she speaks Russia is rallying others against us. She then emphasizes that no one would be better on all fronts to lead us forward than a man who has been pushed to the brink in his own life.

Then she concludes that there were a lot of bad actors in the credit crisis. And of the two tickets, only McCain-Palin can promise and deliver that they will hunt down the Democrats and the Republicans in government and those in the private sector who brought us to this place. She emphasizes that a vote for McCain is a vote to get to the bottom of the credit crisis, while a vote for Obama will be nothing more than a vote for a whitewash of the whole matter. She can point to the WSJ article (Hot Air featured yesterday) and note that even our most prominent business publication is calling for Chris Dodd’s head. And with an Obama presidency, Dodd and all the other politicians will skate.

But then I’m just a voter in Ohio where the election is being stolen anyway, and I’m just spewing a lot of hot air.

BuckeyeSam on October 11, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Dishonesty and abuse of power is wrong.

“Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda … to get Trooper Michael Wooten fired,”

There’s a fine line between use and abuse. This whole finding is a joke. It’s all opinion, and it’s a big political play. Trooper Michael Wooten should not have only been fired, he should have been arrested.

I don’t see how this hurts her reform image either. She went up against the established hacks in the police union and the “good old boys” who protect each other and serve their own interests.

It’s no secret why Democrats are winning so many elections.

Republicans are marching in formation, wearing their bright-red, thick, wool uniforms in the summer heat, more concerned that one of their own has a button missing on their coat, while the Democrats are running around the woods picking them off.

reaganaut on October 11, 2008 at 10:48 AM

Palin needs a “Checkers” press conference.

(1) She notes that she invited an independent inquiry. (2) She points out that it got hijacked by a Democratic partisan (French) who should have been dropped from the investigation. (3) She emphasizes that she committed no crime. (4) She acknowledges that the investigators found that she didn’t do enough to rein in her husband. (5) She admits that in light of [laundry list Trooper Wooten's bad acts] she and her husband allowed concern for family to override her role as governor.

Then, she says that’s fine, with the polls as they are, the media will have only three more weeks to kick her and her family around.

But, in the meantime, [and here she takes out the big guns] she emphasizes that the American people will need to decide whether they really want a president who… [go for Obama's jugular--everything, holding nothing back]. Here, she even throws in that as bad as our federal government failed us in the past several years, it never introduced crack and HIV into communities of color to exterminate them as Obama’s pastor had taught.

She continues by acknowledging that McCain’s been accused of being out of touch with people’s pain, and she acknowledges his wealth, but then she immediately turns the tables to point out that very few of us have known five and a half years of privation as McCain. Think about that: are any of us suffering anything near that by comparison? Very few of us have been reduced to nothing as McCain has.

She then emphasizes that we’re likely headed into an extended period of economic difficulty. Here, she returns to that theme of personal responsibility she mentioned in her debate. It doesn’t have to be harsh medicine; it can be a communal form of self-examination in which we all stop and consider what role we played: second and third mortgages; average of $10,000 or more of credit card debt carried month to month; borrowing against 401(k) plans for discretionary things. She develops a theme that Americans need to start looking within rather than looking to government. Sure, government is available for the truly needy, but we should largely be looking to family, friends, and other associations (the good ones) to lift us up. Look to leaders to lead but not to live our lives for us. In the end, she says that we all need to look in the mirror to see where we might have gone wrong before pulling together to right our national ship. She emphasizes the notion of shared sacrifice and that we’re going to need to pull together because even as she speaks Russia is rallying others against us. She then emphasizes that no one would be better on all fronts to lead us forward than a man who has been pushed to the brink in his own life.

Then she concludes that there were a lot of bad actors in the credit crisis. And of the two tickets, only McCain-Palin can promise and deliver that they will hunt down the Democrats and the Republicans in government and those in the private sector who brought us to this place. She emphasizes that a vote for McCain is a vote to get to the bottom of the credit crisis, while a vote for Obama will be nothing more than a vote for a whitewash of the whole matter. She can point to the WSJ article (Hot Air featured yesterday) and note that even our most prominent business publication is calling for Chris Dodd’s head. And with an Obama presidency, Dodd and all the other politicians will skate.

But then I’m just a voter in Ohio where the election is being stolen anyway, and I’m just spewing a lot of hot air.

BuckeyeSam on October 11, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Send it to her, BuckeyeSam, and do my Buckeye Mom and Dad (God rest their souls) proud!.

gracie on October 11, 2008 at 10:50 AM

Does this report ever mention the abuse of public trust committed by the troopers union and trooper leadership in making sure Wooten kept his job? Perhaps a silly question as the report is it’s own abuse of public trust.

aikidoka on October 11, 2008 at 10:51 AM

Even “if” Sara were culpable in any way of overstepping her authority. I would much rather vote for her than someone who has never made an executive decision about anything. Obama plays it safe on everything, then second guesses and hind
sights those brave enough to make a decision. Obama is a whimp.

sheriff246 on October 11, 2008 at 10:52 AM

Oh please, Barack should’ve been a goner when he first ran in with the New Party 1996 with the backing of Ayers.

Nice try though…

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 10:38 AMKey words: “should have”. He’s got the media wind at his back and it’s already practically an Obama State Run Media. Sorry… I’m just calling it like I see it.

LibTired on October 11, 2008 at 10:54 AM

This is Sarah’s moment, just like BuckeyeSam said!!

gracie on October 11, 2008 at 10:55 AM

Curious, I never hear about the money Barack got for his wife’s employer to the tune of $1million from the faux-indignant GOP lovers here. Once again, troopergate is more important though…

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 10:45 AM

Bingo!!!!

John Doe on October 11, 2008 at 10:56 AM

Republicans are marching in formation, wearing their bright-red, thick, wool uniforms in the summer heat, more concerned that one of their own has a button missing on their coat, while the Democrats are running around the woods picking them off.

reaganaut on October 11, 2008 at 10:48 AM

Wow I was thinking the very same thing this morning and was trying to figure a way to sneak it in. Well done.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 10:57 AM

As I said on another thread, I think the reason this report was dumped on a Friday was so the headlines would hit the press but not the details.

The reasoning used for deciding that Gov. Palin was guilty of an ethics violation is based on what Branchflower thinks is “likely”:

I find that, although Walt Monegan’s refusal to fire Trooper Michael Wooten was not the sole reason he was fired by Governor Sarah Palin, it was likely a contributing factor to his termination as Commissioner of Public Safety.

(emphasis mine)
One cannot make an “absolute” determination from a “likely” event.

Thus this conclusion is illogical and inconsistent.

Plus, Branchflower seems to think that the only person firing Wooten would benefit would be Gov. Palin! As Beldar points out, that’s a curious reading of not only the facts, but of the ethics rules:

Branchflower reads the Ethics Act to prohibit any governmental action or decision made for justifiable reasons benefiting the State if that action or decision might also make a public official happy for any other reason. That would mean, of course, that governors must never act or decide in a way that makes them personally happy as a citizen, or as a wife or mother or daughter, and that they could only take actions or make decisions which left them feeling neutral or upset. This an incredibly shoddy tower of supposition, and a ridiculous misreading of the law.

The only “benefit” that Gov. Palin would receive from having the guy thrown in jail would be the “benefit” of comfort since they would no longer have to worry about that nutjob attacking their family.

I fail to see how protecting one’s family is a violation of ethics.

And I haven’t even gotten to the bizarre, other-worldly “logic” of the two decisions: she unethically did a legal thing.

Religious_Zealot on October 11, 2008 at 10:59 AM

Do ya know the difference between Bill Ayers and Timothy McVeigh ?

Ayers beat the rap, became a teacher and has an alliance running for President. Barrack Hussein Obama

Scary Halloween huh ! ! Boo ! !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA77kpXm3HE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONfJ7YSXE5w

Texyank on October 11, 2008 at 11:02 AM

Sarah should screw all this, piss off the MSM, and go after Obama and his mentor Jerimiah Wright today. Go on the fricking offense McDumbass. Playing patty-cakes ain’t going to win this election.

John Doe on October 11, 2008 at 11:04 AM

Curious, I never hear about the money Barack got for his wife’s employer to the tune of $1million from the faux-indignant GOP lovers here. Once again, troopergate is more important though…

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 10:45 AM

FWIW: Thomas Sowell mentioned that very point in an article that appeared in Townhall.com yesterday.

http://townhall.com/Common/PrintPage.aspx?g=7ba916d5-3d92-438d-9256-948224f1d0da&t=c

McCain droned on and on at the debate about an earmark to an organization in Chicago where one of his bundlers sits on the board. God only knows why he didn’t mention the earmark to his wife’s hosptital–that’s the kind of thing that gets people’s attention. Either he or his campaign are complete idiots. That kind of thing is gold. I’m a million times more outraged by that than Troopergate.

BuckeyeSam on October 11, 2008 at 11:05 AM

The results of this should-have-been-a-non-scandal will be all the lefties need, however irrational, to paint her hyperbolically as somehow potentially “worse than Cheney”. This is a conclusion that will benefit the Dems. Another grenade hit in their all-out political war.

CP on October 11, 2008 at 11:06 AM

Ayers beat the rap, became a teacher
Texyank on October 11, 2008 at 11:02 AM

Are you trying to say that Wooten has a future as a teacher?

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 11:07 AM

reaganaut on October 11, 2008 at 10:48 AM

I’m okay with people addressing the merits of the case but too many people ruin that approach when they transition to the BUT Obama… theme.

Palin could answer it with a simple “I respect the investigation and will certainly re-examine my part in the issue. I am open minded enough to acknowledge that perception is everything and in retrospect, I probably could have handled this different. Those of us who say we are too old to learn should not be in positions of leadership.”

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 11:10 AM

The 527s will be rolling out the “big guns” starting Monday.

McCain WILL look magnanamous for wanting to “respect” his opponent and the Wright-Pfleger-Ayers-Rezko-ACORN ads WILL toast The One (pbuh).

omnipotent on October 11, 2008 at 11:11 AM

It was my understanding that Todd’s testimony was that Sarah had indeed asked him to lay off. If that is the case then this decision if bogus because she did make an effort to get him to quit discussing Wooten with Monegan.

In her email on page 44 she indicated her personal experiences with Wooten and warned against what she thought could be behaviors by Wooten that would cause danger to the citizens of Alaska. Many in Wasilla feel threatened by this man and have publicly said so. Last night one of Sarah’s friends said on Greta’s show that she feels Wooten is a danger.

And this was suppose to be about Sarah and Monegan NOT Todd and Monegan. By bringing Todd into to this the case then involves the proving of the guilt or innocence of Wooten, and the Sarah/Monegan issue gets diluted. This was nothing but a gift to the Obama camp as promised by Hollis. There is much information missing and for the life of me I cannot see where the judge’s words at the divorce hearing should have entered into this.

What is going overlooked here in my opinion is the involvement of the union and union officials. I looks to me like Wooten would have been fired the union thugs not become involved. They threatened people if they attempted to speak out against Wooten. Where is the investigation into that Branchflower?

freeus on October 11, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Maybe the election is lost, and I confess that McCain is conducting himself like Milt Milquetoast. But I don’t give a rat’s ass about McCain’s supposed Senate legacy. He signed on to beat this guy, so he needs to draw the stark contrasts. I don’t want an America were political expedience is rewarded all the way to the fricking White House. Obama is a lowlife weasle with an Ivy League pedigree. And that’s it. Guilt by association? No. It’s guilt by alliance.

And as for plans, Jonah Goldberg had an article about best-laid plans yesterday or the day before. Yeah, sure, under the circumstances, Obama’s going to follow through on it all. Right. To note a wise philospher Mike Tyson, “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” I’m sure that Bush had plans until planes started flying into buildings. And, whatever you want to say, I’m damned glad Bush was at the helm rather than Gore.

No administration goes without crisis, and that’s why character matters. McCain seems to have it; Obama clearly doesn’t.

BuckeyeSam on October 11, 2008 at 11:17 AM

That kind of thing is gold. I’m a million times more outraged by that than Troopergate.

BuckeyeSam on October 11, 2008 at 11:05 AM

The way I see it is that the Palin thing is far worst because she is a republican and is expected to not do these kinds of things. BO is a democrat and you are trying to fault him for acting like one. Remember a republican tapping their foot in a men’s room is a perverse act that warrants arrest. A democrat having his gay lover run a prostitution ring out of his house is ok and to think otherwise is hateful. We have vastly different standards for democrats and republicans and both parties fully support them. Looked at it that way Palin was wrong and I think should at the very least drop out of the running and maybe resign as governor. Anything less is a black mark on republicans and conservatives.
 
Think of it this way. It’s a graceful way to get Mitt into the VP slot and maybe win this thing.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 11:20 AM

This is just evidence of Gov. Palin’s good management.

Bugler on October 11, 2008 at 11:23 AM

Unless McCain somehow wins, this is the end of Palin’s aspirations for high office. She’s a goner. The media mudslide is too powerful and this black mark on her record may as well be a coffin.
LibTired on October 11, 2008 at 10:36 AM

That’s one of the dumbest posts I have seen here at HA in quite some time. You even “one upped” the monkei man from yesterday.

Keemo on October 11, 2008 at 11:24 AM

Ed i just read the entire report did you ? Your headline (But still trouble) is bougus i think you should read it before you run with this story.

thmcbb on October 11, 2008 at 11:25 AM

Think of it this way. It’s a graceful way to get Mitt into the VP slot and maybe win this thing.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 11:20 AM

If Gov. Palin bowed out it would “prove” the left’s meme that she wasn’t vetted and also “prove” that McCain makes bad decisions and isn’t suited for President.

It would also infuriate the base because:
- they love Sarah
- they think she did the right thing

In all this wailing and gnashing of teeth, it is sometimes forgotten that this ticket was basically dead in the water BEFORE she was picked.

It was her selection that energized the base.

It was her selection that brought in a great amount of money into the campaign.

It was her selection that caused the average attendance of a McCain rally to increase ten, twenty, thirty-fold.

The left knew this immediately, which is why they kept pushing the Eagleton meme.

The absolutely WORSE thing the McCain campaign could do is to let Gov. Palin go.

Religious_Zealot on October 11, 2008 at 11:26 AM

Looked at it that way Palin was wrong and I think should at the very least drop out of the running and maybe resign as governor. Anything less is a black mark on republicans and conservatives.

Think of it this way. It’s a graceful way to get Mitt into the VP slot and maybe win this thing.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 11:20 AM

It’s back under the bridge for you, Troll!

You are dumb.

omnipotent on October 11, 2008 at 11:27 AM

I’m okay with people addressing the merits of the case but too many people ruin that approach when they transition to the BUT Obama… theme.

I agree about that part. The instant you say, “But Obama or Clinton did worse”, you are immediately acknowledging guilt.

I always have a problem with these committee investigations, and these massive reports that are carefully worded in the language of lawyers. No one really knows what goes on behind closed doors, who was offered what to make statements.

I think this case all boils down to perception, some bad feelings among both Democrats and Republicans in Alaska. On a scale of 1 to 10 in abuse of power, this rates a weak 1, and should be trated as such. If a resident of Alaska, not related to Governor Palin, came to her with these concerns would she have acted in a similar manner?

What concerns me, is that Trooper Wooten was grossly abusing his power, not to mention breaking the laws he took an oath to uphold, Monegan was also abusing his power and violating the public trust, and yet they were not subject to the same scrutiny.

In my opinion that makes this whole report irrelevant.

reaganaut on October 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM

That’s one of the dumbest posts I have seen here at HA in quite some time.
Keemo on October 11, 2008 at 11:24 AM

It saddens me that you don’t read mine. I don’t even have to try to be dumb because I was born and raised in MA and still live there. Lets face it you can’t be any dumber then that.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 11:29 AM

It’s back under the bridge for you, Troll!

You are dumb.

omnipotent on October 11, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Dude you made my day. I’ve tried for years to be called a Troll and never have made the grade.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 11:33 AM

“Now, with three weeks left in the campaign, it’s going to dent the reform message of John McCain, which was the main reason he asked Palin to be his running mate.”

I disagree. The reformer angle was played only to compensate for her otherwise complete lack of qualifications.

Palin was chosen by McCain for two reasons: she’s female and she’s anti-abortion. His gamble was he gets to peel off Hillary supporters while throwing a bone to his base. Like a lot of gambles, it sounded too good to be true and that’s how it’s turned out…

sanguine4 on October 11, 2008 at 11:33 AM

“I respect the investigation and will certainly re-examine my part in the issue. I am open minded enough to acknowledge that perception is everything and in retrospect, I probably could have handled this different. Those of us who say we are too old to learn should not be in positions of leadership.”

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 11:10 AM

Why, oh, why, in the ever-lovin’ world would she say that if she did no wrong? Jeez, talk about knuckling under to a witch hunt. There’s a fine line — nay, a sharp divide between a fair assessment of your own political party and selling your principles to the highest bidder.

Get a grip, man. Stand on truth as the principle instead of innuendo and slanted opinion.

Tennman on October 11, 2008 at 11:33 AM

If Gov. Palin bowed out it would “prove” the left’s meme that she wasn’t vetted and also “prove” that McCain makes bad decisions and isn’t suited for President.

It would also infuriate the base because:
- they love Sarah
- they think she did the right thing

In all this wailing and gnashing of teeth, it is sometimes forgotten that this ticket was basically dead in the water BEFORE she was picked.

It was her selection that energized the base.

It was her selection that brought in a great amount of money into the campaign.

It was her selection that caused the average attendance of a McCain rally to increase ten, twenty, thirty-fold.

The left knew this immediately, which is why they kept pushing the Eagleton meme.

The absolutely WORSE thing the McCain campaign could do is to let Gov. Palin go.

Religious_Zealot on October 11, 2008 at 11:26 AM

That’s the spirit! Now if we can just get others on the wagon we might just win this thing.
When Palin is asked about this she should just say that the presidential election is a serious thing and she will not entertain silly questions from silly reporters.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 11:37 AM

Trent:

No, if Romney had been picked there would probably have just been some other kind of baggage and a significant number of Republicans would have refused to vote for him. Needless to say that would have resulted in people saying McCain was an idiot for picking him.

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 11:40 AM

It’s back under the bridge for you, Troll!

You are dumb.

omnipotent on October 11, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Dude you made my day. I’ve tried for years to be called a Troll and never have made the grade.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 11:33 AM

On second thought you may be omnipotent but I don’t recognize your authority to throw me under the bridge or even recognize me as a troll. I want to see a resume indicating that you are in fact experienced enough to fill such a important role that I’m sure is just a heartbeat away from something else.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 11:42 AM

Buck eyed:

I don’t think McCain is being a milk toast or whatever. I know people are pissed that he said Obama was a decent human being that he had disagreements with or whatever, but if people would not stand up at a townhall and call Obama an Arab it might not be necessary for McCain to say anything positive about him at all. Talk about playing into the opposition’s hands. I bet Obama just loved that Arab remark.

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 11:43 AM

No, if Romney had been picked there would probably have just been some other kind of baggage and a significant number of Republicans would have refused to vote for him. Needless to say that would have resulted in people saying McCain was an idiot for picking him.

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 11:40 AM

Without doubt and being form MA and knowing people that worked with him I can say that they would have found lots. Not to mention he owns houses and in this climate a multiple home owner is something you just don’t want to be. Not to mention that I have been told he owns cars too. Would you really want someone that owns homes and cars to be a heartbeat away from the presidency? I thought not.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 11:47 AM

Bradky:

I am not some crazy Palin fan, I would have been just as willing to support Pawlenty or Romney if they had gotten the nod.

But this whole thing stinks, I question the timing and the motivation behind the investigation. The idea that Palin is unethical because she did not lock her old man in a closet or something is ridiculous. The state trooper in question is still on the job.

I am sorry, but this seems absurd and politically motivated. When I compare it to the kinds of things Clinton has done, I don’t do it to explain away Republican malfeasance but to point out the difference between actual unethical behavior and a political hit job. We have all seen these kinds of things before. In fact witch hunts like this are exactly the kinds of thing that lead people to have little faith in government.

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 11:48 AM

jmarcure:

I did not have a big problem with Romney, but the idea that Democrats and their allies could not and would not have concocted some line of attack against the man is naive.

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 11:50 AM

That’s the spirit! Now if we can just get others on the wagon we might just win this thing.
When Palin is asked about this she should just say that the presidential election is a serious thing and she will not entertain silly questions from silly reporters.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 11:37 AM

I don’t think Gov. Palin should ignore questions about it, I think she should be up front and honest.

Despite the report’s conclusion (which is illogical, muddled and inconsistent with itself), she did nothing wrong.

She should respond to questions by saying something like “Well, there they go again! The promised October surprise delivered on cue. It’s too bad that everyone is simply picking up the conclusion without really going through the rest of the paper. I did nothing wrong. I tried to protect not only myself, but the people of Alaska from a dangerous, erratic man who brings disgrace to everyone who puts on a state trooper uniform. The only “benefit” I received from trying to get him fired is the benefit of knowing that our streets are a bit safer with this guy off of the force. And as the report clearly stated, I did nothing illegal. And in fact, given the opportunity to do everything over, I would STILL try to fire that stepson tazering, death threat making, drinking and driving poor excuse for a trooper.

And maybe a non-partisan report by a person less interested in creating an October surprise, would have noted that.”

Religious_Zealot on October 11, 2008 at 11:52 AM

She needs a press conference alright. The same as Nixon. Her message is simple.

She tells the world that she is tired of men who coddle and appease other men who abuse their spouses and children. She should point out that it took over 15 years to get legislation passed in Congress that would prohibit men from abusing their spouses or children.

The theme in this is fight back. The theme in this is to basically make her attackers from French and Branchflower to be more interested in protecting Wooten then her 10 year old nephew.

Wooten is on record and I saw him on ABC saying yes he tasered a 10 year old child. Make him the bad guy because he is.

NBC was on the air last night and I thought any moment David Shuster was going to break out in tears over this poor man Wooten.

Ronald Reagan’s team would have had the entire nation heading Northwest to hang Wooten from the nearest tree. This incompetency called a political campaign that McCain is running is getting to the point of being impossible to defend or support.

Jdripper on October 11, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Religious_Zealot:

There is not even any proof that she did try to get Wooten fired. Her father filed the complaint and then because of the rules in that state, the state would not tell the family the status of the complaint. They might have wanted the man counseled or put on leave or any number of things.

If they had kept the family filing the complaint in the loop in terms of what was being done about Wooten, if anything Todd Palin would not have been asking questions.

At least that is my understanding. Ace has an interesting post on this.

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 11:58 AM

“I respect the investigation and will certainly re-examine my part in the issue. I am open minded enough to acknowledge that perception is everything and in retrospect, I probably could have handled this different. Those of us who say we are too old to learn should not be in positions of leadership.”

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 11:10 AM

You forgot to add..’And come to the realization that as a Republican, anything I say or do is inherently evil and wrong and I wish I was dead. I’m sorry I ever accepted the nomination. Also, I beat my kids for no reason.’

BigWyo on October 11, 2008 at 11:58 AM

Jdripper:

I don’t know what McCain’s campaign has to do with this. They are not the ones that did the investigation. This whole issue was out there when he picked her. And Palin is a big girl, she can take of herself.

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 12:01 PM

There is not even any proof that she did try to get Wooten fired. Her father filed the complaint and then because of the rules in that state, the state would not tell the family the status of the complaint. They might have wanted the man counseled or put on leave or any number of things.

If they had kept the family filing the complaint in the loop in terms of what was being done about Wooten, if anything Todd Palin would not have been asking questions.

At least that is my understanding. Ace has an interesting post on this.

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 11:58 AM

So noted.

It’s just that the report is confusing and contradictory, it’s hard to tell what exactly she is being accused of.

To be honest, I think what she’s being accused of here is of being a Republican running for the Vice Presidency.

Religious_Zealot on October 11, 2008 at 12:02 PM

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The obligatory: Ed Morrissey is endearing himself to the Mainstream Media, so he can still get his columns printed and get paid, post.

Ed, seriously, in instances like this you remind me of a junior in high school trying to impress the little girls with your wise analysis and cool shapes.

What is it about: You don’t have bend over backwards and suck on the MSM toes in order to have a good reputation, do you not understand?

If you are this way when you are middle age, how are you going to be when you get old?

*shudders*

Mcguyver on October 11, 2008 at 12:02 PM

And btw Jdripper, several members of Ronald Reagan’s administration went to jail over the Iran/Contra issue. He could not and did not save them.

Oliver North fell on his sword or there would have been more.

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 12:03 PM

Unless McCain somehow wins, this is the end of Palin’s aspirations for high office. She’s a goner. The media mudslide is too powerful and this black mark on her record may as well be a coffin.

LibTired on October 11, 2008 at 10:36 AM

That’s one of the dumbest posts I have seen here at HA in quite some time. You even “one upped” the monkei man from yesterday.

Keemo on October 11, 2008 at 11:24 AM

If you don’t think the media are gonna milk this and make sure this woman is never seen the same in the eyes of the population again (ABUSE OF POWER – ABUSE OF POWER – ABUSE OF POWER), then more power to you. I’m not some dumb Kos kid you’re talking to… I’ve just got my eyes wide open to the world that is currently rapidly closing in on conservatives.

LibTired on October 11, 2008 at 12:05 PM

Religious_Zealot:

Yes, it is confusing and contradictory and most people will not understand what it is about. Their eyes will glaze over and they will tune out. It won’t leave a good taste in their mouth, but neither will threatening to shoot Dad and tasering the kid.

It would seem to me that if she did not do anything unlawful and improper in firing Monegan then it follows that there were no ethical violations. If on the other hand there were ethical violations, one would think it would follow that it was improper to fire the man. or whatever.

I am getting dizzy.

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 12:08 PM

LibTired:

I don’t know about that.

Think about Ted Kennedy, Rep. Rangel and the Clintons not to mention a number of somewhat strange and colorful political figures in this country.

If the people of Alaska are willing to let Ted Stevens win the next election {and it looks like they might} then this will not kill Palin in that state. If anything it will martyr her.

That is the problem with this sort of investigation. We have seen so many of them for so many years now that a lot of people just assume they are nonsense.

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 12:12 PM

I am getting dizzy.

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 12:08 PM

So am I.

I just want someone to explain to me how anyone can unethically commit a legal act?

Religious_Zealot on October 11, 2008 at 12:12 PM

I did not have a big problem with Romney, but the idea that Democrats and their allies could not and would not have concocted some line of attack against the man is naive.

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 11:50 AM

I agree and that is why I mentioned the houses and cars. I have seen nothing about Palin that would keep me from thinking she is unsuited. The thing I see is that the MSM and liberals know full well that Republicans and conservatives eat their own at the slightest provocation and have been gleefully providing everything from the wrong earrings to her doing nothing wrong. Think about it. It has really come to the point that she did nothing wrong, committed no crimes and yet here we are dancing to the tune of the liberals that say she did. The liberals know full well she did nothing wrong and they know full well that many conservatives will demand her head because of the perception of wrong doing. As the old saying goes, “We are our own worst enemy.” The liberals not only know that, they embrace it and use it to gain more and more power. For the conservatives who think we have a shot at 2012. Dream on because our feeding frenzy on each other then will make this year look like we were all sitting around the camp fire singing kumbaya.
 
Look at 2006. We handed the congress to the dems because we couldn’t stomach having someone that said macaca or someone that sent emails about being buff to a page. But we were going to make the BIG comeback in 2008 when everyone saw how horrible the dem controlled congress was. That plan worked so well that we are now talking about the BIG comeback in 2012.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 12:13 PM

jmarcure:

I absolutely agree. That is why they call the Republican the Stupid Party.

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 12:16 PM

To be honest, I think what she’s being accused of here is of being a Republican running for the Vice Presidency.

Religious_Zealot on October 11, 2008 at 12:02 PM

In a nutshell that is it.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 12:17 PM

What an absolute crock of ****. If you really feel that way then why don’t YOU run for office…
Don’t give me a bunch of lame excuses either. If you love your country and really feel that way then step the **** up.

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:32 AM

Am I to understand that if my politics diverge from yours, then before I’m allowed to speak out, I must gain standing by running for office?

petefrt on October 11, 2008 at 12:17 PM

I just want someone to explain to me how anyone can unethically commit a legal act?

Religious_Zealot on October 11, 2008 at 12:12 PM

It benefited her and it is not ethical as a public official to do something that benefits yourself. If the complaints were filed by other than family members they would have had a much harder time tying any benefit to her from her actions.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 11:43 AM

As a matter of crowd control, I agree with admonishing the hecklers. They’re disgraceful.

That, I do fear an Obama administration for innumerable reasons. For starters, I’ll offer links to a Michael Barone article and an entry I just noticed on National Review Online. They express some of my concerns about Obama and about McCain better than I.

Michael Barone:

http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=YjUwZWIwZTNhY2Y0YTFkYzFmZTIyZWUwZWNkYjk4ZGM=

Kathryn Jean Lopez:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDJkODljMDRlYmZlNzkwOWU2NWMxZTk2ZDFmOGNhZTc=

BuckeyeSam on October 11, 2008 at 12:24 PM

I find it quite ironic that some posters here are castigating Senator McCain for not fighting hard enough, and in the same breath announcing their own lack of intestinal fortitude.

Surrender mentality suits Obama, but is very unbecoming coming from “conservatives.”

In these uncertain times, the only “given” is more uncertain times ahead. The outcome of the election is by no means decided.

hillbillyjim on October 11, 2008 at 12:25 PM

sence we are talking about the ethics of Gov. Palin.I just got off the phone with my brother in springfield Ill. .he tells me something (BIG) is about to break in the Fitzgerald case about tony rezko, state treasurer alexl giannoulias,Gov.Blagojerich and maybe Obama.Does anyone know or heard anythig???

thmcbb on October 11, 2008 at 12:31 PM

This has been all over the Yahoo headline page all morning . . . . You’d think she was just captured for
armed robbery or worse the way the media pigs are pushing
it.

Gawd, I hate the frigging media.

Texyank on October 11, 2008 at 12:42 PM

It benefited her and it is not ethical as a public official to do something that benefits yourself. If the complaints were filed by other than family members they would have had a much harder time tying any benefit to her from her actions.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 12:22 PM

But how, exactly, did it benefit her?

And keeping in mind both Beldar’s post and Flopping Ace’s, how exactly is something that 1) benefits EVERYONE; and 2) does not FINANCIALLY benefit the governor (the prevailing legal definition of benefiting)…

…how exactly is this a violation of ethics?

Religious_Zealot on October 11, 2008 at 12:46 PM

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