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Troopergate: Less than critics wanted, but still trouble

posted at 8:49 am on October 11, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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I’ve read through the Troopergate report and some of the commentary arising from it, and the McCain/Palin ticket appears to have a mixed bag.  The report acknowledges the obvious: Governor Sarah Palin has the right to fire political appointees for whatever reason she desires.  The termination of Walt Monegan was completely within her purview and her authority.  However, we hold politicians to higher standards, or at least we should, and the report’s conclusion that she abused her power in light of her husband’s actions in attempting to get Trooper Mike Wooten fired will stick in voters’ minds in the final days of the election.

Jazz Shaw, no Palin fan, notes the ethics issue for the prosecution:

The report says Palin failed to reign in her husband’s inappropriate efforts to use the governor’s office to contact trooper employees in his attempts to have Wooten fired.

Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda … to get Trooper Michael Wooten fired,” Branchflower’s report says.

Compliance with the code of ethics is not optional. It is an individual responsibility imposed by law, and any effort to benefit a personal interest through official action is a violation of that trust. … The term ‘benefit’ is very broadly defined, and includes anything that is to the person’s advantage or personal self-interest.”

The result of this is that the report will be turned over to the President of the State Senate for possible disciplinary action. McCain’s supporters are already in full swing, furiously trying to spin the report into something palatable, but it’s hard to see this as anything but another black eye for the Arizona Senator’s campaign. The responses will say that Palin didn’t technically break any laws. (Well, I suppose that’s technically true on some levels, assuming you don’t think of ethics laws as… errr, you know.. “laws.’) They are also decrying the investigation as a partisan witch hunt. (The panel convened to investigate this was comprised of eight Republicans and four Democrats.)

The investigation started at the request of another Republican — Sarah Palin.  The allegations of a “partisan witch hunt” began when the legislative master of the investigation, Democratic state Senator Hollis French, started promising an “October Surprise” and embarrassment for John McCain before one witness had even been deposed.  French further clouded the investigation by interfering with subpoenas, blocking one for a witness to a meeting in which all other attendees had been subpoenaed … and that witness had run the meeting, and was also Palin’s chief of staff.  There is plenty of evidence that French wanted a partisan outcome and not justice.

But still, if Todd Palin was bullying people to fire a non-political appointee for personal reasons, using the implied authority of his wife, and Sarah Palin knew about it and didn’t stop it, that would be a breach of ethics.  Most people would agree that a police officer who drank alcohol in his patrol car, tasered his 10-year-old stepson, and threatened to murder his estranged wife’s father should not be working in law enforcement.  All of those allegations were confirmed by Alaska in an investigation.  However, the job of trooper is not a political appointment, and if Todd Palin acted in a manner reported by this investigation, it would be improper and subject to some sort of censure from the Legislature.

That’s a big if, though, and the matter is far from closed. Beldar, speaking for the defense, notes that the report reflects the opinion of one man hired by French, and has not yet been accepted by the Legislature:

Even the Anchorage Daily News is misrepresenting the meaning of this report: I just received an email update from it in which it claims that “Today Alaska legislators found Palin did abuse her power in the ‘Troopergate’ controversy.” That’s absolutely false — the Alaska Legislature is not in session, and all that happened today was that the 12-member Legislative Council that received the Branchflower Report voted unanimously to release its first volume (the 263-page .pdf file linked above) to the public. Several more volumes and hundreds more pages prepared by Branchflower still remain confidential — suggesting that Branchflower’s selective quotations in the report may well have been “cherry-picked” or taken out of context — but the governor’s office has itself posted quite a few more documents pertaining to the investigation on the internet, confirming Gov. Palin’s repeated statements that she has nothing to hide in this entire matter.

Beldar, an attorney himself, also has some criticism for the investigator:

Instead, Branchfire has piled a guess (that the Palins wanted Wooten fired, rather than, for example, counseled, disciplined, or reassigned) on top of an inference (that when the Palins expressed concern to Monegan about Wooten, they were really threatening to fire Monegan if he didn’t fire Wooten) on top of an innuendo (that Gov. Palin “fired” Monegan at least in part because of his failure to fire Wooten) — from which Branchflower then leaps to a legal conclusion: “abuse of authority.” Branchflower reads the Ethics Act to prohibit any governmental action or decision made for justifiable reasons benefiting the State if that action or decision might also make a public official happy for any other reason. That would mean, of course, that governors must never act or decide in a way that makes them personally happy as a citizen, or as a wife or mother or daughter, and that they could only take actions or make decisions which left them feeling neutral or upset. This an incredibly shoddy tower of supposition, and a ridiculous misreading of the law.

Branchflower puts under a microscope every direct and indirect contact that can possibly be claimed to to come, directly or indirectly, from Gov. Palin or her husband, Todd. In none of them did either Sarah or Todd Palin demand or request that Wooten be fired. Some of them date back to before Gov. Palin was even a candidate for governor. All of them are equally well explained by legitimate concerns that Wooten was a potential threat to the Palin family (having already made death threats against Gov. Palin’s father) and/or an embarrassment to the Alaska Department of Public Safety and the entire state law enforcement community. That the Palins also had strong — and entirely understandable! — negative feelings about Trooper Wooten does not make any of these communications remotely improper, much less illegal.

Nevertheless, Branchflower leaps to the personal conclusion (page 67 of the .pdf file) that “such claims of fear were not bona fide and were offered to provide cover for the Palins’ real motivation: to get Trooper Wooten fired for personal family related reasons.” Well, here’s another memo to Mr. Branchflower: When the family is question is the family of the Governor of Alaska, and when her security detail is charged with protecting her from threats, and in the process of that, the security detail actively seeks out information as to who may have previously made death threats against the family, that’s no longer solely a “personal family related reason.” And when someone like Trooper Wooten threatens to bring ridicule and shame to the entire state of Alaska, that’s no longer solely a “personal family related reason” either.

Branchflower, I’m told, is an attorney and a former prosecutor. If he thinks this kind of nonsense could support a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt, or even a finding of proof by a preponderance of the evidence, then he may be the worst lawyer I’ve ever encountered — and I’ve met a lot of awful ones in almost three decades before the bar.

That brings us to the main point of this exercise.  It will produce no certainty whatsoever, thanks to the Legislative Council’s inaction in the face of Hollis French’s efforts to turn this investigation into a present for Barack Obama.  The LC should have bounced both French and Branchflower after the “October Surprise” comment and replaced them with people of less partisan temperament.  Instead, we have a report that both clears the Governor and indicts her spouse in a contradictory, confusing judgment that appears to have been looking for some self-justification for all of the time and money spent on it.

Palin runs almost zero risk of any sort of rebuke on the basis of this report in Alaska, but the election may be a different matter.  The phrase “abuse of power” resonates with voters, even when it’s applied to the candidate’s spouse.  Had the report come out two months ago, when no one paid any attention, it would probably be a nothingburger.  Now, with three weeks left in the campaign, it’s going to dent the reform message of John McCain, which was the main reason he asked Palin to be his running mate.  It won’t convince current supporters to reject McCain, but it will make it a little more difficult to convince undecideds.


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October surprise!

ManlyRash on October 11, 2008 at 8:58 AM

The phrase “abuse of power” resonates with voters,

But wouldn’t that be more than cancelled out by “tasered a 10 year old boy?” Who could blame her?

Golden Boy on October 11, 2008 at 8:58 AM

Road Apples! The Governor acted within her authority to fire Monegan and Wooten is still on the job.

gracie on October 11, 2008 at 8:58 AM

you’re wrong ed. this is absolutely nothing (from a factual standpoint). the report concludes that the failure to fire wooten was “likely” a factor in monegan’s dismissal. the word “likely” indicates they have zero proof, and that all the conclusions are pure conjecture.

this whole report would be laughed out of any court. and to say politicians are held to a higher standard is beside the point. that’s like saying if you can repeat a bunch of unsubtantiated conjecture long enough, then that will have a real impact.

i’m not dismissing the political aspect of this. the dems will play it up to some degree.

but the report itself is junk. proves nothing. doesn’t even dent palin’s credibility.

darkegop on October 11, 2008 at 8:58 AM

As I noted in the other thread, this is a ridiculous report. The trooper involved is still a trooper and the next Public Safety Commissioner does not appear to have been pressured to fire him. There is no story here unless it is to advertise the incredibly week standards of behavior Alaska has for it’s troopers. Good thing the G7 is meeting this weekend or the media would be forced to go wall to wall with this. As it is, it appears to be getting only 60% of the coverage. Illogical.

Cindy Munford on October 11, 2008 at 8:59 AM

Less than what the MEDIA wanted.

Tony737 on October 11, 2008 at 9:00 AM

So Branchflower thinks that Todd probably inappropriately tried to get Wooten fired, Sarah fired Monnegan, and replaced him with someone who did NOT fire Wooten. There’s no “there” there.

The Monster on October 11, 2008 at 9:01 AM

But still, if Todd Palin was bullying people to fire a non-political appointee for personal reasons

Threatening to kill Sarah’s father is kind of compelling, Ed.

That’s where the response ought to go.

drjohn on October 11, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Why couldn’t she have been a good, honest decent governor with no baggage – like Bill Clinton?

whitetop on October 11, 2008 at 9:02 AM

Unreal.

McCain/Palin can be as right as rain on this issue but it doesn’t matter…the MSM will use this “abuse of power” line to its fullest.

You have ACORN, Ayers, Rezko, New World Party, Rashidi, secret/foreign contributions, Biden gaffes and all the matters is…

Trooper Wooten.

This election is coming to a close…fast.

LordMaximus on October 11, 2008 at 9:03 AM

I’ve rarely seen a more bogus politically inspired hit job. Gov Palin neither violated ethics law, abused her power, or broke the law. She did however violate a cardinal law of liberaldom, she’s an intelligent, profamily, accomplished woman, who is pro life. Some sins are not forgivable in the liberal universe.

eaglewingz08 on October 11, 2008 at 9:03 AM

Todd is not the husband she thought he was. Hey, it works ffor the ONE.

Benjamin9 on October 11, 2008 at 9:05 AM

“Compliance with the code of ethics is not optional.”

And Wooten?

His ethics as an Alsaka State Trooper are optional?

drjohn on October 11, 2008 at 9:05 AM

The desperation on the left/media is pathetic.

grapeknutz on October 11, 2008 at 9:05 AM

Unfortunately, this morning, the headlines already read “abuse of power” and that’s all the voters will read and that’s all the Democrats wanted. You can be sure it will be parroted, unchallenged, in the MSM this weekend during the news programs, etc.

furytrader on October 11, 2008 at 9:06 AM

French further clouded the investigation by interfering with subpoenas, blocking one for a witness to a meeting in which all other attendees had been subpoenaed.

Good grief Ed, how many times are you going to repeat this lie? French did not interfere with the issuing of subpoenas it was Rep. Ramras a Republican. I thought you were better then this blind partisanship Ed, I guess not.

lowandslow on October 11, 2008 at 9:07 AM

She did the right thing. Anyone with half a brain would fire Wooten. But that is not the case. Todd acted like a husband and father protecting his family. This is totally relatable.
The democRATS will take issue because they want to harm Palin any way possible. They will try to make this issue stick, but to no avail.

jencab on October 11, 2008 at 9:07 AM

This is insane. Sarah Palin wanted to fire a trooper who tazed a child and made death threats, and she’s the one with the ethics problem? Come on!

SoulGlo on October 11, 2008 at 9:10 AM

Less than what the MEDIA wanted.

Tony737 on October 11, 2008 at 9:00 AM
I don’t know, since when does the media care if the facts support their hatchet jobs? Just construct the most damaging headline you can and then bury the word ‘alleged’ or ‘unnamed source’ somewhere in the 27th paragraph and you are done.

neuquenguy on October 11, 2008 at 9:10 AM

(apologies for double post)

I don’t understand why, if Wooten had tasered a 10 year old he wasn’t in prison in the first place? That’s sounds like a very serious assault on a child.
Can someone explain that for me?

DarkCurrent on October 11, 2008 at 9:12 AM

McCain’s campaign appears to be suffering from an idea spawned from the mind of Mack Sennett.

csdeven on October 11, 2008 at 9:13 AM

So Todd should not have used the Governor’s office to protect his family from a trooper that threatened a family members life—-and the trooper is still on the job???

Got it!

Rovin on October 11, 2008 at 9:15 AM

I like pudding.

Good Lt on October 11, 2008 at 9:17 AM

There goes the “reform” brand.

lodge on October 11, 2008 at 9:17 AM

any effort to benefit a personal interest through official action is a violation of that trust

Personal interest?
So firing the thug was obviously the right thing to do, but because it was Palin’s family that was hurt by him, they could do nothing to help the right thing get done?

jgapinoy on October 11, 2008 at 9:19 AM

Todd Palin isn’t even covered by the relevant statute.

The damage is done, but my hope is the next step is that this report gets jammed up French’s derriere sideways. Politically speaking, of course. I don’t like escalation but it’s the game the other side is playing.

DrSteve on October 11, 2008 at 9:19 AM

The phrase “abuse of power” resonates with voters,

But wouldn’t that be more than cancelled out by “tasered a 10 year old boy?” Who could blame her?

Golden Boy on October 11, 2008 at 8:58 AM

Yeap. McCain needs to be out this morning talking this point alone. They can’t nuance the intricacy of the facts. The voters are not going to read the report. The trooper was a bad guy. Among other things, he abused a 10 year old child. Thats all that needs to be said, over and over again.

JonRoss on October 11, 2008 at 9:21 AM

The phrase “abuse of power” resonates with voters, even when it’s applied to the candidate’s spouse. Had the report come out two months ago, when no one paid any attention, it would probably be a nothingburger. Now, with three weeks left in the campaign, it’s going to dent the reform message of John McCain, which was the main reason he asked Palin to be his running mate.

Palin has often spoke of “ruffling feathers” in her efforts to get the reforms she wanted. She could point to this report as the kind of political hatchet jobs some people will resort to when they’ve had their feathers ruffled. In that regard it could be spun into a positive.

backwoods conservative on October 11, 2008 at 9:23 AM

Trooper Wooten found guilty of abuse of power.

Todd Palin found gulity of protecting and defending his family.

gracie on October 11, 2008 at 9:23 AM

There goes the “reform” brand.

lodge on October 11, 2008 at 9:17 AM

The main reason McCain brought her in. The way to the white house becomes narrower and narrower as the days go by. His campaign is much like a team needing to win their remaining games while others need to lose.

csdeven on October 11, 2008 at 9:23 AM

October ZZZZZZZZZ!

Gone after the opening bell Monday.

Limerick on October 11, 2008 at 9:24 AM

As I understand it, Walt Monegan was not fired, he was reassigned and chose to quit … Ed, you may want to correct your write up, it makes quite a bit of difference.

tarpon on October 11, 2008 at 9:24 AM

I love when so-called conservatives have faux indignation for a faux scandal. Next thing you know, the media is quoting Hot Air as a site that thinks Palin is the one who did wrong here.

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 9:26 AM

The citizens of Alaska should be asking why Wooten is still a state trooper. He is what law enforcement people call a “heavy badge” and is a big lawsuit waiting to happen. He was employed by the city of Anchorage before becoming a state trooper. If we still had real investigative reporters instead of journalists, we would know what his fellow city officers though of his work and ethics. Rumor is that they were very happy to see him leave.

JGsez on October 11, 2008 at 9:26 AM

Hillary blogs are much better at explaining this: that Monegan wasn’t fired; he was given an alternate position with commensurate pay. He chose not to take it.

promachus on October 11, 2008 at 9:28 AM

Campaign Obama will, of course, beat this like a drum. Meanwhile McCain balks at hammering home Ayers-Wright-ACORN-CAC, though it’ll likely cost him the election.

It’s hard to support a candidate who won’t fight for his own candidacy.

And another thing, Senator. I’ll thank you for not telling me I shouldn’t worry about Obama and where he’ll take this country. The revolutionary socialists are taking over this country, Senator, whether you realize it or not.

petefrt on October 11, 2008 at 9:28 AM

Among other things, he abused a 10 year old child. Thats all that needs to be said, over and over again.

JonRoss on October 11, 2008 at 9:21 AM

If that was the case, she should not have used the BS “insubordination” story and simply fired the guy because her family are Alaskan citizens also. Walt Monegan refused to protect all of Alaskans and that would have been enough.

It goes to credibility.

csdeven on October 11, 2008 at 9:28 AM

For some denial is in full force again. Either you sincerely believe in and support standards, ethics and accountability or you don’t. Can’t have it both ways.

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:29 AM

This is insane. Sarah Palin wanted to fire a trooper who tazed a child and made death threats, and she’s the one with the ethics problem Come on!

The words in bold are the only ones the voters will see, thanks to a diligent Drive-By media.

ManlyRash on October 11, 2008 at 9:32 AM

OT but look at this. Is this for real?

The Sun Times today gave a major clue that Barack Obama will indeed go down with Tony Rezko, sooner rather than later.

Oh please. Oh please. Please.

Rod on October 11, 2008 at 9:32 AM

The revolutionary socialists are taking over this country, Senator, whether you realize it or not.

petefrt on October 11, 2008 at 9:28 AM

What an absolute crock of ****. If you really feel that way then why don’t YOU run for office. Too many citizens view their politics as some never ending tv drama over which they have no control – only opinions.
The system is designed for citizens who feel strongly to get out and run for office and make changes.
Don’t give me a bunch of lame excuses either. If you love your country and really feel that way then step the **** up.

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:32 AM

I love when so-called conservatives have faux indignation for a faux scandal. Next thing you know, the media is quoting Hot Air as a site that thinks Palin is the one who did wrong here.

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 9:26 AM

You have a point here. Not that we shouldn’t do better than the democrats who bury their much larger scandals using any necessary means (while slandering conservatives) but we sometimes get carried away with the mea culpa.

neuquenguy on October 11, 2008 at 9:32 AM

Stupid report and so blantantly biased.

If only Obama’s actions were investigated so thoroughly … if only.

darwin on October 11, 2008 at 9:33 AM

This is the same kind of trumped up garbage they threw at John McCain in the Keating Five case. Take a small thread of an appearance of impropriety and make a mountain out of a molehill. We are not in denial in saying it’s a freaking molehill. We’re not saying the ground is flat.

News flash: Sarah Palin is not perfect! And she has enemies! Horrors!

rockmom on October 11, 2008 at 9:33 AM

This is so funny. The socialists lie ( see Sarah Palin’s “grades”) cheat ( ACORN, illegal overseas donations) steal (Looting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac)and don’t give a damn about all the crooks, anti-semites and vile America-hating scum Obama associates with. To them the end justifies the means. But never mind that, we conservatives will always have our “ethics”.

RMR on October 11, 2008 at 9:33 AM

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:29 AM

For some denial is in full force again. Either you sincerely believe in procedural justice and an appearance of impartial findings of fact or you don’t. Can’t have it both ways.

French is materially involved in the Governor’s stated reason for firing Monegan. Branchflower’s wife was a Monegan subordinate and Branchflower served in an official capacity legally supporting Monegan when the latter was with the APD. The fact that these men were allowed anywhere near this probe is an absolute farce.

DrSteve on October 11, 2008 at 9:36 AM

Ethics only involves Republicans in this event. Nevermind the ethics of a Democratic Obama supporter hip deep in this hearing promising an October surprise to influence the outcome of a national election. Ethics my butt. Only liberal minds nurture this type of event and fuzzy conclusion and spin it as problematic. The only reason it takes hold is because of an unethical national and international media and liberals sucking the teat of the mother press for sustainance.

wepeople on October 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM

Rod on October 11, 2008 at 9:32 AM: “Obama’s defense in the Rezko business was that he never did anything for Rezko so there was no quid pro quo. What the Giannoulias and Broadway Bank stuff proves is that Obama sits in people’s pockets for a while before the favor is given. He bought that town house sometime between 1997-2000 or so, since he lived there for a few years before trading up to the Obama Mansion with Rezko’s help in 2005, after he was in the United States Senate. And it looks like the payback was not given to the Giannoulias family until 2006, with Obama’s endorsement of Alexi Giannoulias for State Treasurer.”

If this is true – and Rezko verifies it – Obama’s finished. If it’s true.

ManlyRash on October 11, 2008 at 9:37 AM

IF Todd Palin was in fact pushing to get Wooten fired then he was doing what any man would- protecting his family from danger. Palin does not control her husband.

Let them push this issue on this front- they will lose.

http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/09/10/the-dangers-of-politicizing-troopergate/

Virginia Shanahan on October 11, 2008 at 9:38 AM

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:32 AM

A fatuous statement, Brad. Not everyone has the temperament or the werewithal to run for political office.

ManlyRash on October 11, 2008 at 9:40 AM

The kids at MSNBC can run this story on a loop and the Moonbats can write a million diaries, I don’t think the average voter gives two bleeps about this non-story. It’s too amorphous, complicated and BORING!

AYNBLAND on October 11, 2008 at 9:41 AM

DrSteve on October 11, 2008 at 9:36 AM

Got it. Palin is untouchable because in your view there will never be an impartial enough individual to assess her actions.
Have some more koolaid.

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:41 AM

ManlyRash on October 11, 2008 at 9:40 AM

Alex I’ll take the easy out for 200 please…. hand me the remote.

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:42 AM

And if you really want to talk about a Governor abusing power:

CHICAGO (AP) – Jailed political fundraiser Antoin “Tony” Rezko, the Chicago real estate developer who helped launch Barack Obama on his political career, is whispering secrets to federal prosecutors about corruption in Illinois and the political fallout could be explosive.

Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich, whose administration faces multiple federal investigations over how it handed out jobs and money with advice from Rezko, is considered the most vulnerable. link

Of course, the AP writer goes on to soft-pedal the rest of the story saying there will be no OCTOBER SURPRISE:

“But based on the known facts, charges so far and testimony at Rezko’s trial, there’s no indication there’ll be an October surprise that could hurt the Democratic presidential nominee…..”

Maybe the headlines should read:

Palin takes husband to the woodshed—Obama supporters take Chicago electorate on a fraudulent ride.

Rovin on October 11, 2008 at 9:42 AM

For some denial is in full force again. Either you sincerely believe in and support standards, ethics and accountability or you don’t. Can’t have it both ways. – Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:29 AM

The report, it appears, is trying to have it both ways. Either she committed an act for which she can be censured or removed from office or she did not. If the former, then the legislature in Alaska should act accordingly. If the latter, then the matter should be dropped.

ManlyRash on October 11, 2008 at 9:42 AM

It won’t convince current supporters to reject McCain, but it will make it a little more difficult to convince undecideds.

Then the electorate is foolish — especially if they vote for a guy who has ZERO executive experience, ties to seedy characters and organizations, and far-left views that will further divide the country.

Gov. Palin was well within her rights to re-assign this Monehan guy — she did nothing wrong.

Richard Romano on October 11, 2008 at 9:43 AM

I don’t honestly care if Todd Palin did everything in his power to get that idiot fired. If anything I would want him to have done it. I’m sorry isn’t it the job of elected officials to attempt to protect the public? This guy is obviously a menace and should have been fired several times over. If Todd Palin attempted to get the guy fired then good on him.

Kronos on October 11, 2008 at 9:43 AM

And I’m supposed to feel upset over this non-scandal, just like the Mark Foley non-scandal?

We give the media WAY too much leeway when it comes to defining ourselves. We throw everyone under the bus for even a hint of anything wrong and the left gets away with keeping scumbags running in office for decades.

I’ve heard lots of conservatives, when it comes to national security, say when it comes to dealing with the bad guys you have to have some of the other bad guys on your side. So why do we fall for Saul Alinsky trap and expect every Republican to be clean as the wind driven snow?

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 9:44 AM

This is the classic case of “Conflict of Interest” vice the “APPEARANCE of Conflict of Interest.” In order to avoid the appearance, she would have been derelict in her executive duties. A tricky situation for a seasoned politician, and perhaps beyond that of even a talented neophyte.

TREGONSEE on October 11, 2008 at 9:44 AM

What an absolute crock of ****. If you really feel that way then why don’t YOU run for office.

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:32 AM

Are you kidding? Running as a Republican in today’s climate means being born to a virgin, being sin free and contributing all your earnings to charity as well as subsisting on bread and water from childhood.

Of course democrats have no such standards applied to them. They can be and are routinely crooks, thieves and rabid anti-American radicals all propped up by big money from people who don’t seem to like our Constitution.

darwin on October 11, 2008 at 9:44 AM

We know that the mainstream media is a bunch of dim-witted robots. We need to know who owns them and what THEIR agenda is. It is obvious that being anti-American is just the beginning.

volsense on October 11, 2008 at 9:44 AM

Hey…Anyone heard from Billy Dale lately?

scatbug on October 11, 2008 at 9:45 AM

Either you sincerely believe in and support standards, ethics and accountability or you don’t. Can’t have it both ways.

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:29 AM

Can you tell the group what your opinion is of Obama and his associations?

csdeven on October 11, 2008 at 9:45 AM

If Todd Palin attempted to get the guy fired then good on him.

Kronos on October 11, 2008 at 9:43 AM

you would literally be foaming at the mouth if a similar story about Michelle Obama broke. In fact you would spin it as the “socialist boot on the neck of freedom” or some such tripe.
Objectivity and honesty is a wonderful thing to have. Get some.

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:46 AM

This story will get some play today, but who is really paying attention, anyway. It’s already not the main story, Bush and the economy are. Be glad this story came out last night.

IR-MN on October 11, 2008 at 9:46 AM

I don’t think the good citizens of Alaska are going to get upset about their highly respected governor.

Palin should hold a press conference during prime time and lay out the facts of the case to the American public. Let’s see how many people think a child being shocked with a taser and a father being threatened isn’t sufficient grounds to go after a scumbag trooper.

David in ATL on October 11, 2008 at 9:46 AM

The Sun Times today gave a major clue that Barack Obama will indeed go down with Tony Rezko, sooner rather than later.

Oh please. Oh please. Please.

Rod on October 11, 2008 at 9:32 AM

If anything, nothing will be known until AFTER the election and if our dreams did come true…that means that Joe Biden is President with Pelosi as VP, unless he can pick his own.

Move On. Fitzgerald will be out of a job in 3 months and watching out for his life when the Chicago thugs start looking for him.

LordMaximus on October 11, 2008 at 9:47 AM

Can you tell the group what your opinion is of Obama and his associations?

csdeven on October 11, 2008 at 9:45 AM

Happy to do so. I think the associations are very troubling and a large reason he won’t get my vote.

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:47 AM

Alex I’ll take the easy out for 200 please…. hand me the remote. – Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:42 AM

And the answer is: This Hot Air commenter delights in lobbing little verbal grenades and then proffering snarky rejoinders when confronted.”

Hmmm….who is…….Bradky?

Correct, for $200

ManlyRash on October 11, 2008 at 9:47 AM

The final answer is “Big f*cking whoop”. When she sends emails asking them to flood liberal talk shows with calls… asks her minions to prosecute those that speak ill of her… maybe then it will “resonate with voters”. In the mean time, trying to get a guy fired that used a taser on a kid is the right thing to do… ugly divorce or not.

CC

CapedConservative on October 11, 2008 at 9:47 AM

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:41 AM

Mind the burden you’re placing on yourself here.

Are you saying there were not two more suitable people in Alaska to direct this probe and gather evidence? Do you wish to be taken seriously?

If Patrick Fitzgerald were McCain’s Illinois state campaign chairman I would want him off the Rezko thing, not even providing input at the sentencing phase.

DrSteve on October 11, 2008 at 9:47 AM

Happy to do so. I think the associations are very troubling and a large reason he won’t get my vote.

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:47 AM

Thank you.

csdeven on October 11, 2008 at 9:48 AM

darwin on October 11, 2008 at 9:44 AM

then run as a democrat

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:49 AM

If that was the case, she should not have used the BS “insubordination” story and simply fired the guy because her family are Alaskan citizens also. Walt Monegan refused to protect all of Alaskans and that would have been enough.

It goes to credibility.

csdeven on October 11, 2008 at 9:28 AM

You are over analyzing. And the entire event can be nuanced into the direction of your favorite presidential condidate. The trooper was/is a butt hole. He should have gotten his come-uppence. Whatever else happened in connection with the entire ordeal is of no consequence as far as the voters are concerned.

JonRoss on October 11, 2008 at 9:49 AM

you would literally be foaming at the mouth if a similar story about Michelle Obama broke. In fact you would spin it as the “socialist boot on the neck of freedom” or some such tripe.
Objectivity and honesty is a wonderful thing to have. Get some.

Bradky

Well, when Stanley Kurtz wanted to just discuss the Chicago Annenberg project, the Obama minions tried to shut down the radio show he was on. Show me the time the right has done this to the left.

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 9:51 AM

you would literally be foaming at the mouth if a similar story about Michelle Obama broke. In fact you would spin it as the “socialist boot on the neck of freedom” or some such tripe. – Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:46 AM

Michelle Obama IS a socialist and, if given her druthers, would happily slam her jackboot down on our necks. If you can’t see that, then you need to pull your head out of your ass.

ManlyRash on October 11, 2008 at 9:51 AM

How’s McCain’s VP-vetting process looking right about now?

I know, I know. Liberal, mainstream media spinning this. But that’s why people are vetted, because you want to avoid the appearance of impropriety.

Mitt wouldn’t have this kind of baggage.

Trent1289 on October 11, 2008 at 9:51 AM

Are you saying there were not two more suitable people in Alaska to direct this probe and gather evidence? Do you wish to be taken seriously?

If Patrick Fitzgerald were McCain’s Illinois state campaign chairman I would want him off the Rezko thing, not even providing input at the sentencing phase.

DrSteve on October 11, 2008 at 9:47 AM

I’m saying the mental gymnastics some are willing to perform to defend Palin are laughable – period. Obviously you take me seriously since you replied.

ManlyRash on October 11, 2008 at 9:47 AM

Have you ever had an original thought/opinion in your life or is it just one long series of talking points from others?

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:51 AM

I love when so-called conservatives have faux indignation for a faux scandal. Next thing you know, the media is quoting Hot Air as a site that thinks Palin is the one who did wrong here.

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 9:26 AM

Except for a few common folk everyone hates Palin. She can do no right and the simple fact is that no Republican or conservative is righteous enough for any other Republican or conservative to like. Being a good person is simply not enough for any conservative or Republican and God isn’t available for office. Even then I’m sure the Republicans and conservatives would deem him not experienced enough for the job or that he acted unethically when he turned Lots wife to salt.
 
Is this the end for McCain/Palin? It’s doubtful considering they never had a chance in the first place. It’s pretty hard to win an election with every liberal foaming at the mouth with hate and nearly every conservative doing the same.
 

We are headed for the age of BO and it is being handed to him on a silver platter carried by conservatives.

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 9:52 AM

then run as a democrat – Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:49 AM

You really DO live in your own little fantasy world, don’t you?

ManlyRash on October 11, 2008 at 9:52 AM

I wonder if this opens the door for Wooten to sue the State of Alaska? Maybe that’s what the Dems are after.

Someone help me here – I thought that neither Todd nor Sarah ever asked Monegan to fire Wooten. Is that correct? If it is, what is the personal benefit she sought.

huckleberryfriend on October 11, 2008 at 9:53 AM

Mitt wouldn’t have this kind of baggage.

Trent1289

Oh yeah, rich white guy with another rich white guy. That’ll work this time.

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 9:53 AM

ManlyRash on October 11, 2008 at 9:51 AM

LMAO – Michelle Obama is not accused of misusing power to fire someone – Palin is. Come on Manly watch the finger – focus!

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:53 AM

JonRoss on October 11, 2008 at 9:49 AM

There certainly will be people who view it that way and hopefully those folks are the indies. But if someone is on the cusp, whatever ignorance causes them to be so, this might be enough to make up their mind to support Oslime-a. I believe that an uninformed vote counts exactly the same as an informed vote.

csdeven on October 11, 2008 at 9:54 AM

Have you ever had an original thought/opinion in your life or is it just one long series of talking points from others? – Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:51 AM

Absolutely. Unlike yours, mine often mirror those of others who actually think before they speak. Any donkey can bray and call it an original thought – you do it all the time.

ManlyRash on October 11, 2008 at 9:55 AM

Are you kidding? Running as a Republican in today’s climate means being born to a virgin, being sin free and contributing all your earnings to charity as well as subsisting on bread and water from childhood.

darwin on October 11, 2008 at 9:44 AM

Are you kidding?
How in the heck would you manage to score a perfect SAT test or attend an Ivy League collage and graduate at the top of your class, travel the world to learn about foreign policy or get executive experience with that kind of background?

jmarcure on October 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM

Mitt wouldn’t have this kind of baggage.

Trent1289 on October 11, 2008 at 9:51 AM

McCain hates Mitt. Hell, his mother even disparaged Mormons in general.

csdeven on October 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM

LMAO – Michelle Obama is not accused of misusing power to fire someone – Palin is

Let me ask you ky, did Bush have the right to fire all the attorneys that the media and the donkeys were so upset about? Or were they serving at his leisure? Last time I checked, a trooper who beat his wife and tasered a 10 year old isn’t above the Governor of Alaska.

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM

Oh yeah, rich white guy with another rich white guy. That’ll work this time.

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 9:53 AM

It worked for years.

And during an economic crisis, Mitt’s business experience would be a HUGE plus. Military and Economic experience (TM). Obama would not have had this bounce if ANYONE in McCain’s campaign understood business.

Trent1289 on October 11, 2008 at 9:57 AM

LMAO – Michelle Obama is not accused of misusing power to fire someone – Palin is. Come on Manly watch the finger – focus!

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:53 AM

What do you know about Michelle Obama ?

JonRoss on October 11, 2008 at 9:57 AM

How’s McCain’s VP-vetting process looking right about now?

I know, I know. Liberal, mainstream media spinning this. But that’s why people are vetted, because you want to avoid the appearance of impropriety.

Mitt wouldn’t have this kind of baggage.

Trent1289 on October 11, 2008 at 9:51 AM

What appearance of impropriety are you referring to? She fired a guy she has every right to fire. If it was because he wouldn’t fire the trooper… that is also her right… if she didn’t like his hairstyle, that was her right.

The various flavors of astroturfers are all over. Mitt wasn’t selected. Would he have been better? Probably for either spot on the ticket… undoubtedly for the top. That isn’t where we are, so when one raises this subject at this stage of the game, you have to suspect ‘turf. Unfortunately, Mitt will never hold national office.

CC

CapedConservative on October 11, 2008 at 9:57 AM

And during an economic crisis, Mitt’s business experience would be a HUGE plus. Military and Economic experience (TM). Obama would not have had this bounce if ANYONE in McCain’s campaign understood business.

Trent1289

Well then, what business experience is Barack peddling? His $800,000 he sent to ACORN?

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 9:59 AM

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 9:53 AM

You and I both know that you have more in common than you don’t with the HA members you are arguing with.

You always come off as contentious instead of supportive of the angst felt toward the bias of the MSM etc. Conservatives feel that they have to be more outspoken because of said media bias. I haven’t decided if you are a troll or not. And that has been the case since the early primaries.

csdeven on October 11, 2008 at 10:00 AM

Stand up, Sarah and sing Streisand’s “My Man”:
Oh my man I love him so
He’ll never know
All my life is just despair
But I don’t care
When he takes me in his arms
The world is bright, alright,
What’s the difference if I say
I’ll go away
When I know I’ll come back
On my knees someday
Oh whatever my man is
I am his
Forever more

Todd Palin guilty as charged for protecting and defending his family. Sarah won’t be throwing him under the snow machine!

gracie on October 11, 2008 at 10:00 AM

The various flavors of astroturfers are all over. Mitt wasn’t selected. Would he have been better? Probably for either spot on the ticket… undoubtedly for the top. That isn’t where we are, so when one raises this subject at this stage of the game, you have to suspect ‘turf. Unfortunately, Mitt will never hold national office.
CapedConservative on October 11, 2008 at 9:57 AM

The game’s essentially over. Time to lay blame and think of what might’ve (and should’ve) been.

Trent1289 on October 11, 2008 at 10:00 AM

I’m saying the mental gymnastics some are willing to perform to defend Palin are laughable – period. Obviously you take me seriously since you replied.

The conflicts in staffing and direction of the probe are immediately apparent. No gymnastics required.

If this were a made-for-TV parody of some jerkwater burg’s self-dealing court system you couldn’t find better plot devices than putting in charge of the probe the guy Monegan was fired for colluding with to circumvent budget decisions for his agency. I mean, please.

I had some “well that’s not good” moments in reading the report last night, mainly relating to Palin’s failure to perform due diligence on Monegan’s (first?) replacement. I really am trying to call them as I see them here.

DrSteve on October 11, 2008 at 10:01 AM

It says she acted lawfully. How does that equate to abuse of power? Any elected official has the right to hire or fire their staff. I dont get it.

johnnyU on October 11, 2008 at 10:01 AM

Well then, what business experience is Barack peddling? His $800,000 he sent to ACORN?

Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 9:59 AM

Have you heard of the fact that the out of power party ALWAYS gets the benefit of a bad economy? Any rep would be suffering, but McCain is suffering more because of his perceived gaffs.

csdeven on October 11, 2008 at 10:02 AM

Well then, what business experience is Barack peddling? His $800,000 he sent to ACORN?

That’s not the point. McCain was up before all of this started. Winning by a large margin. It wasn’t the Katie COuric interviews or the debates or any of that that caused him to drop in the polls; it was this econ crisis. If Romney was VP, then a different argument (besides the dreaded “the fundamentals are strong) would’ve been used. Probably experience. Things would’ve played out differently.

Trent1289 on October 11, 2008 at 10:03 AM

I backed Romney in the primaries but let’s not turn into a bunch of cannibals here.

DrSteve on October 11, 2008 at 10:04 AM

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