Report: McCain, Palin at odds over how hard to hit Obama
posted at 6:13 pm on October 11, 2008 by Allahpundit
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It’s too thinly sourced to be taken very seriously, but since our readership revels in the idea of the ‘Cuda being the scrapper to McCain’s squish, I figured you’d dig it.
The bit about Mark Salter does strike me as plausible.
With his electoral prospects fading by the day, Senator John McCain has fallen out with his vice-presidential running mate about the direction of his White House campaign…
Mark Salter, McCain’s long-serving chief of staff, is understood to have told campaign insiders that he would prefer his boss, a former Vietnam prisoner of war, to suffer an “honourable defeat” rather than conduct a campaign that would be out of character – and likely to lose him the election.
Palin, 44, has led the character attacks on Obama in the belief that McCain may be throwing away the election and her chance of becoming vice-president. Her supporters think that if the Republican ticket loses on November 4, she should run for president in 2012…
A McCain official confirmed that there was dissension in the campaign. “There is always going to be a debate about the costs and benefits of any strategy,” he said.
“After November 4, the feelings of individuals will come to light. It is only natural and will be expected.”…
A spokesman for McCain denied he and Palin had fallen out over her aggressive attacks. “Vice-presidential candidates are typically the tip of the spear and further out in front than the candidate for president. This is pretty standard fare,” he said.
Quoth an unnamed Republican consultant: “Sarah Palin is no fool. She sees the same thing [i.e. a likely defeat] and wants to salvage what she can. She is positioning herself for the future. Her best days could be in front of her. She wants to look as though she was the fighter, the person with the spunk who was out there taking it to the Democrats.” Any reason to believe that she and McCain really are at loggerheads? Well, (a) as the Times reminds us, she’s publicly questioned the campaign’s strategy in pulling out of Michigan as well as McCain’s decision not to go after Obama on Wright, (b) while Maverick’s begun inching away from the brass knuckles approach, she’s still telling people how eager the base is to see them take the gloves off, and (c) she’s famous in Alaska for not deferring to her political patrons when she thinks there’s something to be gained from opposing them. She’s built her career on it. If she wants to go out there and take it to Obama, there’s not much McCain can do except scream at her on the phone and hope she listens.
Exit question one: Is McCain’s attempt at calming the crowd yesterday the first inkling of the Salter “strategy” being put into effect? It’s worth noting that Palin herself eased off the Ayers stuff, but only in order to hammer Obama with one of the most red-meat social con speeches I’ve ever read. Exit question two: If they do lose, just how bad will the fingerpointing within the campaign be? I have visions of anonymous quotes starting to appear in the NYT circa mid-November about Palin’s Couric interview and McCain not being “tough enough”…
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We need the markets to have an upward trend the next few weeks…Bush and the Feds are pulling out all the stops to make that happen…have Sarah start simply detailing the health care plan, throw in a bone about suspending capital gains taxes…no new taxes or tax increases, etc…she’s great with $ and cents..Talk about how we can pour billions into our economy in a few short years with off-shore drilling. McCain has too many senior moments. His job is to scowl at Obama Popeye style, call him a Marxist and a liar in so many words and finish up with “I yam what I yam 100% American!”
gracie on October 11, 2008 at 7:27 PM
OBAMA CAUGHT SAYING ACORN AND FRIENDS WILL SHAPE HIS PRESIDENTIAL AGENDA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU
Tazz 55 on October 11, 2008 at 7:27 PM
I recall my drill instructors telling us there is no such thing as a fair fight… only winning and losing. Honor is how you go down after you’ve spent your last round… you fight with whatever you have, you protect your buddies and you leave no one behind.
McCain has mistaken honor for diplomacy, the polite courtesies of the neutered. Maverick my ass.
He’s leaving all us behind.
bloviator on October 11, 2008 at 7:27 PM
Actually for the last debate, he should do just that. And I don’t mean just about Jerry Wrong. McCain should walk up and, “Obama’s belt, meet Obama’s ankles.”
Then give him a wedgie. I mean seriously, could you vote for a guy who got a wedgie on national TV?
- The Cat
MirCat on October 11, 2008 at 7:29 PM
I don’t even know what this story is about but I just wanted to comment that Banderas looks more smokin’ hot than usual right now.
Metro on October 11, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Sarah walked into the valley
With a stone clutched in her hand
She was only a girl, but she knew
Someone must take a stand
There will always be a valley
Always mountains one must scale
There will always be perilous waters
Which someone must sail
Into valleys, into waters
Into jungles, into hell
Sarah ride, ride home again
With a story to tell
Into darkness, into danger
Into storms that rip the night
Don’t give in, don’t give up
But give thanks for the glorious fight
You can tremble, you can fear it
But keep your fighting spirit alive Sarah
Let the shiver of it sting you
Fling into battle, spring to your feet Sarah
Never hold back your step for a moment
Never doubt that your courage will grow
Hold your head even higher and into the fire you go
Tav on October 11, 2008 at 7:31 PM
If they don’t get serious, then we will have an Obamanation.
gstrickler on October 11, 2008 at 7:32 PM
Exactly. Palin gets it. McCain? Not so much.
CanadianGuy on October 11, 2008 at 7:32 PM
A vote for McCain is a future vote for a Palin Presidency.
- The Cat
MirCat on October 11, 2008 at 7:33 PM
CP on October 11, 2008 at 7:02 PM
I second that thought, belief, statement!
AMERICANS FIGHT, WE NEVER GIVE UP, WE ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!!!
If HE wants to run an honorable campaign fine, but that does not mean I or any of you have to. Speaking the truth about Obama, as many have said, is not dishonorable or racist. We had better be converting some voters despite what Mac Daddy is doing. We owe it to Sarah who is having to run with the nut. And in some ways Sarah’s family that has gone through utter hell since being placed on this ticket. All that sliming and nastiness must be rewarded with DEFEAT!
freeus on October 11, 2008 at 7:34 PM
I don’t think this is just about honor. I think it is about what they actually think can help them win.
I do not think McCain lacks courage either. He just does not want to stand there and listen to people call Obama an Arab or say something that is so nasty it actually helps Obama.
I do think that going after Obama on the abortion issue is good. Guns would be good too.
But gracie’s suggestion that Palin talk about the economy is also good. That is the kind of thing people are thinking about right now.
I realize that there is a time and place for going negative, but there has to be more to the campaign than that.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 7:34 PM
uh why do you have to LIE about what I said? I didn’t say he lacked courage, I said he lacked honor. he refuses to stand up to obama, why is he in the race?
what world do you live in? she’s on the only thing he’s got going…mr. I won’t vote for earmarks…except this huge bailout plan that isn’t going to work….pathetic.
right4life on October 11, 2008 at 7:34 PM
McCain needed her more than she needed him. Sure, she may not have been ready for primetime, but she’s pulled him from the brink three times as I see it. Her Friday introduction in Ohio (yes, executed incredibly well by the stunningly inconsistent McCain campaign) completely took the air out of Obama’s convention. Her speech at the RNCC resurrected support from the dead. And, despite the interviews (keeping in mind that McCain’s campaign reportedly misplayed her roll out), she revived McCain with her debate performance when he was flatlining as the credit crisis hit the fan. And on the stump, she’s done a lot of work that McCain should be helping with. McCain has done little more in the past three than ticket takers at ballgames.
When it’s over, she’ll be grateful for the national exposure, but I bet she’ll be consoled by the base, while McCain is relegated to eating lunch in the Senate dining room with Lieberman, Graham, and the Democrats. Heck, I bet even Charlie Crisp and Tim Pawlenty won’t return his calls.
BuckeyeSam on October 11, 2008 at 7:34 PM
I Don’t care what anybody else says,
Hitem’ hard and often with everything… we can not let this …..ever …..ever get near 1600 P Ave.
jerrytbg on October 11, 2008 at 7:36 PM
1) FIRE SALTER.
2) Hit HARD. EVERY DAY.
2.1) Use THIS:
http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=3751
http://www.gop.com/ObamaAcornTree/
3) Does ANYONE – including McCain and Palin – really want to live the rest of their careers/lives with the
CouldaShouldaWoulda “dignified loser” cr*p
of Salter?!
Lockstein13 on October 11, 2008 at 7:36 PM
freeus:
Oh come on. No one is saying you can not speak the truth about Obama. And I doubt if this report is even true.
But that does not mean that people have to be stupid about how they go about going after Obama.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 7:36 PM
obama and his supporters, lewis just today, are calling mccain and his supporters racist. mccain refuses to fight back. some of obama’s supporters ARE very questionable arabs…and where is he getting all his money from???
mccain refuses to fight, he wants to lose in the name of bipartisanship…its gotten sickening.
right4life on October 11, 2008 at 7:37 PM
McCain had to quiet down the old woman who was saying that Obama is an Arab. We don’t need that. But there is no reason why the crowd can’t boo at the mention of Obama’s name. They boo at Obama rallys.
ctmom on October 11, 2008 at 7:38 PM
I just read Sarah Palin dropped the hockey puck at a Philly Flier’s game today. Any video? Read there was a “mixture of cheers and boos”, but the moonbats had mobilized their army well in advance of course.
Marcus on October 11, 2008 at 7:38 PM
This is complete BS, get out there and tear that SOB up!
Barry Hussein is causing such tensions between people and making this a race election. He did it with Hillary, though I am no fan of hers, she should have been where he is standing today. Barry’s use of Bamboozled and Hoodwinked is very racist and it isn’t the first time he has used it either.
Another poster here posted this earlier today, pay attention and look at around 25 seconds watch the mans face watch Barry’s smile, makes my skin crawl http://www.youtube.com/watchv=YuB_W8o_UsU
When people get to close to Barry they pull this crap out make it a race issue when it isn’t, to shut people up. It isn’t as sensitive as it was just a few years ago and if Barry insists on using it it needs to be tossed back in Barry’s direction and yes it can be done respectfully if need be. This is about Barry’s character and those that he will be adding to his administration. I am very concerned with his associates to fear what kind of Administration he would have. This election isn’t about me it is about my daughter and the future of how our children are going to be taught, their freedoms a country to be proud of, I can go on and on…
MLK would be clawing at his grave right now over what Barry is playing and he is playing with fire. I have seen and been in the middle of race riots though I was getting paid to keep the peace there isn’t any peace when those insane riots erupt. Hate groups will rise again or grow stronger in numbers.
I have been hearing form people around me that are not voting for Obama because they are afraid of what his presidency will bring to our country, with all the tensions around the world that is what makes them afraid, the economy will recover, Rome wasn’t built in a day but Barry will burn the USA faster then Nero burned Rome.
I am so pissed but I am not giving up
Robyn S on October 11, 2008 at 7:38 PM
Am I the only one holding out hope for the Whitey tape? :)
Or, where the hell is the Clinton Machine when you need it?
13Girl on October 11, 2008 at 7:41 PM
right4life:
What world do I live in? The one where just about every headline today screamed Abuse of Power. And yes I think it was a political hit job, but the reality is it won’t help the ticket.
If I misunderstood then excuse me, I suppose honor and courage are not the same thing. But then again McCain does have honor. It was honor that made him turn down the chance to leave that hell hole and come home, because an honorable man did not jump to the front of the line.
Now I realize that spending years and years being beaten and abused may not mean much to you, but I think it probably meant a hell of a lot to the man who had to go through it.
And as for honor, it was McCain who decided to pick Palin when all the pundits said to play it safe and go with a Pawlenty or a Romney, but he wanted to make people like you happy.
For all the good it did him.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 7:42 PM
You show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser. If McCain isn’t willing to go the distance, he should have stayed in Arizona and let someone like Fred! or Mitt take the lead.
rmgraha on October 11, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Give me a break. No Palin, no chance. Mac’s one jump in the polls was Palin.
Spirit of 1776 on October 11, 2008 at 7:44 PM
And right4life, this is not some adolescent game about who started what. I am talking about not crossing the line so far that you run off more people than you attract. The idea is to get them to at least consider voting for you.
I know that Obama gets away with bloody murder. I know a lot of people who really can not stand the man. That is one reason I wonder about the polls, because he seems to me to be such a divisive and polarizing person.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 7:46 PM
*sigh*
Guys, they have two different jobs.
Sarah Palin has to energize the base. So she says we should fight harder, she says we should keep fighting in Michigan, and she attacks Obama (the classic VP candidate’s role).
John McCain has to win over the undecided middle. So he’s Mr. Bipartisan, experienced, steady hand to steer the ship of state, etc…
It’s not that they disagree on strategy — it’s that the strategy has them cast in roles that have them saying different things.
And yes, the campaign IS hitting Obama hard on Ayers, ACORN, etc… they’re just doing it intelligently — feeding it to the undecided middle at a pace they’re willing to follow. One step at a time, one shady connection at a time…
ClintACK on October 11, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Career politicians like McCain are loathe to attack their fellow club members. Today’s opponent is tomorrow’s potential ally in, say, a misguided attempt to bail out the economy by throwing $700B at the very same people and companies that tanked the economy in the first place through their mismanagement.
I wanna believe that an outsider like Palin has a clearer view of the world than career politicians like McCain who has never held job in the real world.
highhopes on October 11, 2008 at 7:47 PM
When Allahpundit needs cheering up, he goes to Eeyore.
rbj on October 11, 2008 at 7:47 PM
Juan’s thrown in the towel….quick, you can make millions by printing up “Don’t Blame Me I Voted for Sarah” bumper stickers! On second thought, you may make hundreds after O”Burkas tax plan goes in affect.
ohiorebel on October 11, 2008 at 7:48 PM
Perhaps it’s a no win situation. McCain fires away and the media bleats on and on about he isnt being presidential the way obama is. Of course we know that’s a lie, considering Obama started with the – they’ll remind you I’m black bs but that’s what will happen.
That doesn’t mean we can’t post on our blogs, tell our friends etc and hopefully change as many minds as we can.
aikidoka on October 11, 2008 at 7:49 PM
I agree with this, but there are two factors additionally. Credibility: First, Mac said he would name names and he needs to for cred sake. Second, A consistent message. Mac needs a better message or a better expression of his current message.
Spirit of 1776 on October 11, 2008 at 7:49 PM
yeah I considered it…but his vote for that bailout, and his refusal to confront obama, and tell the american people the truth about who and what he is, turned me off.
if you think mccain is going to get some ‘moderate’ surge, you’re in for a rude awakening on Nov 4.
mccain is going to lose in a landslide. but at least he’ll feel good about himself…and he gets to be bipartisan with obama as they turn this country into a socialist state…
right4life on October 11, 2008 at 7:49 PM
F*** that when he torpedoes any support from the right. He works against his own interests. THERE IS NO UNDECIDED MIDDLE. There is no undecided vote at this point, simply those leaning one way or the other.
highhopes on October 11, 2008 at 7:49 PM
McCain’s playing flower-girl for Obama.
How sweet.
spmat on October 11, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Spirit:
That is what I meant, McCain wanted to make the base happy, so he gave them who they wanted. He did that in spite of the Krauthammers and the NRO people and all the rest of them.
But, Palin’s negatives outside the base are going up and so there is a sort of trade here.
Don’t get me wrong, I really like the woman. I think it might have been better to wait until she was in office longer and all this trooper stuff was behind her for her to go national, but I think she is the real deal. That does not mean those headlines won’t have a negative right now.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 7:50 PM
I saw it on TV…lots of mixed noise…gotta expect that in Philly…not too polite when it comes to their hockey. Put some Obama thugs on board and that’s what you’ll get. But she was beautiful and gracious with Piper and Willow at her side and seemed to know the Ranger captain when she threw down the puck with another Hockey Mom.
gracie on October 11, 2008 at 7:50 PM
spmat:
Would you prefer a duel, pistols at 20 paces?
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 7:52 PM
no matter who mccain chose, they would be attacked mercilessly. if you don’t have a response ready, you deserve to lose.
this does NOT bother the base.
Reagan managed to win HUGE by NOT doing that.
he’s done it to himself.
right4life on October 11, 2008 at 7:52 PM
highhopes:
That is bs. McCain is the only thing standing between you and President Obama. Too be whining about how he is not far right enough for you in the face of that just goes to show you really don’t care about that right/left stuff. I mean come on.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Mods and Indies vote top of ticket, not bottom. She won’t hurt the ticket. She’s a positive, almost exclusively.
Frankly, McCain has looked more unseasoned then her. His suspension of the campaign – eyebrow raising and poll dropping. Yes, I know what he was trying to do, and yes, he may have done the right thing, but when it comes to appearances to the needed voters, it’s not the bottom of the ticket that concerns me.
Spirit of 1776 on October 11, 2008 at 7:55 PM
rmgraha on October 11, 2008 at 7:42 PM
Amen to that. McCain is coming off as old and feeble. Not up for the fight. As Rush says, we’re going to have to drag Yosemite Sam kicking and screaming across the finish line. maybe after six months in office, he’ll retire to AZ
red131 on October 11, 2008 at 7:56 PM
don’t get me started on the national review…I used to subscribe, until they became ‘moderate’ beltway republicans…they used to have Burnham and Chambers…published Sozhenitsyn’s harvard address…they’ve become the voice of the establishment country clubbers…sickening.
Rush is the voice of conservatism.
right4life on October 11, 2008 at 7:56 PM
It,s now clear as a bell that the only thing McCain will fight for is being respectful of Obama.Walk away Gov. Palin before this man takes you down with him.Better to walk away a fight another day Palin 2012.
thmcbb on October 11, 2008 at 7:57 PM
r4igh4life:
No, he has not it done to himself. The people who can not be pleased, who complain no matter what helped a lot. If not for McCain, Palin would not have had this opportunity. Now just because McCain does not take marching orders from you does not mean you have the right to impune his chracter and question his honor.
I agree that no matter who McCain picked they left would go after that person, but Palin was the only one under an ethics investigation.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Philly fans would boo blind kids who don’t find Easter eggs.
I’m a big Sarah Palin fan so don’t read too much into this but she’s supposed to be the VP candidate. Why is McCain’s campaign wasting her time by having her drop hockey pucks instead of getting out there and talking policy issues in serious venues? Let creepy first lady wannabe Cindy McCain do the hockey puck dropping stuff if it has to be done. Sarah Palin needs to be running for office.
highhopes on October 11, 2008 at 7:58 PM
I believe as long as we hit him with all the basic facts of the who, what, where and when, we can convince voters that Obama is not the best person to run the country. I think that if we use terms such as socialism and make reference to Venezuela and Cuba as examples, peoples’ ears may perk up. Considering what is going on now, as a country we have made several steps in that direction. We need to push the Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Chris Cox and Acorn issues however I don’t know about Wright and Farrakhan with out being fingered as a racists. Sometimes I think that no matter what we say or do, we get that label.
mindhacker on October 11, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Tune in the Flyers-Rangers game now…cable 35 CSN-P. Sarah’s in a box seat (the owner’s, I guess) holding baby Trig…it’s great…just saw a shot of her
gracie on October 11, 2008 at 7:58 PM
I gave up hope that Hillary is going to stand up and speak. She and Bill should have been vocal long time ago speaking against Obama and how he is not fit to become president. But instead they are silent and evan worse they campaign agaist McCain and Palin. And Lenny Davis is not very helpful either. Every time he appears on tv he practically tells the conervative democrats that is ok to vote for Obama.
It might be some truth in this. Most likely thier focus groups tell them that the undecided, independent voters don’t like angry politicians esspecially when they are old. And looking old, bitter, angry is not quite the best solution for winning.
clemycali on October 11, 2008 at 8:01 PM
I’m with ya Lim! This race is far from over and the polls are so skewed the media wants you to believe its over. Macs not more than four points behind. Git up off yur ass’s and fight damnit.
Rovin on October 11, 2008 at 8:01 PM
If Sarah wants the Predisdency bad, she will continue to attack Obama til November 4th, then go back to Alaska and keep cleaning house, controlling the budget/spending, rule as a moderate to conservative, etc. Then continue attacking Obama for four years until she gets another crack.
However, if other Republicans, especially the moderate to liberal ones like McCain throw the first mud against her, she should bury them and go on the warpath and keep talking directly to the American People on how she will rollback the big government of the Dems and Obama.
She needs a good chief of staff for political strategy, plu 4 years of Obama like Carter and she will be positioned.
Her next BIG decision will whether to run for a second term as governor or fight Lisa Murkowski for the Senate in 2010.
Personally, I would go for the Senate in 2010 if her popularity is high enough to beat Murkowski and then use it as a springboard for a move to Washington in 2012 or 2016.
And, there is no way if I was her, that I’d go as a VP again unless that VP was a conservative like Jindal.
Sapwolf on October 11, 2008 at 8:02 PM
Maybe they know about something called honor. Well maybe not Palin…
mycowardice on October 11, 2008 at 8:02 PM
highhopes: She was at a big fundraiser today in Philly $1K -$50K to get in. Earlier in the day she gave a wonderful speech re: abortion and skewered Obama in Johnstown and was speaking someplace else earlier in PA….she’s been really busy…McCain is home sleeping in AZZZZZZZZZ.
gracie on October 11, 2008 at 8:02 PM
McCain asked us to fight with him. When will he start?
Blarg the Destroyer on October 11, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Coatsy’s interviewing Sarah now at 8ish PM
gracie on October 11, 2008 at 8:03 PM
I don’t like the NRO either, but that is not the point.
The point is that for the last year I have been listening to Republicans eviscerate each other. They complain about the Democrats, but the Democrats are not the real opposition. Oh no, their real opposition is each other.
The Romney people can not stand the Huckabee people who can not stand the Rudy people who are too liberal for the Fred! people who are not hardworking enough for the Tancredo people and all of them swearing that if the other guy gets the nod, they sit home and pout.
So McCain won the nomination. He picked the first woman for the GOP ticket. He goes up against the freaking Messiah in a very bad year for Republicans and he actually pulls a little in front and then BAM! the bottom falls out of the stock market.
damn the luck
And then comes forth the Abuse of Power headlines.
damn the luck again.
Now, just because McCain does not want to hear some old lady call Obama an Arab does not mean he is a sissy. And he might have decided that going after Wright does more harm than good at this point.
But as for this report, I take it with a grain of salt.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Blarg;
McCain has been fighting. A lot of other people have been making snarky comments on political blogs, usually under anonymous names.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:05 PM
clemycali on October 11, 2008 at 8:01 PM
Okay but it doesn’t have to seem as if McCain has his wife ordering the drapes in the Oval Office for the Obamas.
red131 on October 11, 2008 at 8:05 PM
Sapwolf:
What is wrong with people??? McCain throw mud at Palin? My God the man made her his VP nominee.
Sheesh. If not for him, she would not even be out there. She would be back in Alaska dealing with that crazy trooper and his friends.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:08 PM
Sarah Palin’s a Jewish Princess, is this what is really behind the Mainstream Media Bashing? Anti Semitic?
This is interesting to Genealogist, and Family Historians and unlike what people get on “The View” how Brad Pitt and Barack Obama are 9th cousins, I forget how many times removed, somewhere back in the annals of time.
This spells out Sarah Palin’s Jewish ancestry
http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-has-jewish-ancestry.html
Shalom
Dr Evil on October 11, 2008 at 8:08 PM
I agree with the first, and while I may not agree with the 2nd, I could understand his point.
But there are conflicting signals coming out of that camp. Palin says Obama’s judgment is dangerous. McCain’s don’t be frightened by the judges he’d nominate (judgment). I mean, it’s not the tightest ship to the observer.
Maybe it’s all part of a big scheme. Hope so, but I’m not betting on it.
Spirit of 1776 on October 11, 2008 at 8:08 PM
OK, forget McCain/Palin, or McCain/Romney. Make it Romney/Palin.
indythinker on October 11, 2008 at 8:08 PM
red:
Who says McCain and his wife are ordering drapes for Obama/
That is stupid too.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Well AP, you and Ed can rollover and just *sigh* over every story, but you’re both underestimating how many people are seeing where this country is headed and just like Angry Waukesha Man, that will be reflected come November 4th.
And I’ve not seen anywhere that Palin is *seeing* defeat…
Haunchie on October 11, 2008 at 8:12 PM
When he stands there and tells us not to fear Obama as president what are we supposed to think? Does this man want to lead us or does he want to be polite? Sorry my comments are not as nuanced as yours.
red131 on October 11, 2008 at 8:13 PM
I’m Barack Obama and I approve ACORN’s message: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJcVgJhNaU
McLovin on October 11, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Well it seems to me that there are a lot of former Hillary supporters that are doing exactly what you are sugetting that Cindy McCain does.
I doubt that Romney has a future in the GOP. Palin yes, she is certantly the future togheter with Jindal, Pawlenty, Charlie Crist. But not Romney.
clemycali on October 11, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Spirit:
The other day I heard McCain say that Obama had poor judgment. He said his friends showed that alone.
He said the people he dealt with and his voting record made that plain.
McCain is the one who okayed the ads for Raines and Johnson and Ayers.
I don’t think McCain is saying it does not matter who appoints judges, but he does not want to sound as if he is saying Obama is a horrible person or anything. It is a fine line, between opposing someone and demonizing them. It might just be a difference of opinion in tactics.
Or it might be a game, that Palin and McCain are both playing that allows her to be the more aggressive one.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:16 PM
There’s no ‘nice’ in this kind of fight. Nice guys indeed will finish last. There are efforts in Hawaii to find out more on Obama’s mysterious past but I wouldnt wait. The time is now. MCcain/Palin had a nice warm and comfortable impression on that town hall the other day and it was working until the market took the news away.
The liberal media isnt make it any easier.
johnnyU on October 11, 2008 at 8:17 PM
red:
What do you want McCain to say? Fear this man. This man is the end of the world. This man is the anti Christ.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:17 PM
We are not questioning his character or his honor, just his judgement. He should be out there attacking Obama the way he attacked the North Vietnamese army in his A-4 Skyhawk — dropping (verbal) bombs (the truth!) and then going back to strafe (use Obama’s own words and actions) the survivors. Instead, he wants to play “Paris Peace Talks” with the Obama camp.
How can stating the truth be considered dishonorable?
rmgraha on October 11, 2008 at 8:19 PM
Don’t give up on Sarah. She’s the best thing to happen to conservative politics worldwide in a long time.
Even to this conservative Aussie she speaks my language if you know what I mean.
Crux Australis on October 11, 2008 at 8:20 PM
John McCain is more worried and concerned about irritating his Dimocrat Friends” then he is the Republican base.
Jdripper on October 11, 2008 at 8:22 PM
How about:
Obama has an unrepentent terrorist as an advisor and confidant.
Obama attended a racist church for 20 years.
Obama wants to spend billions/trillions of taxpayer dollars on pork projects, such as supporting ACORN and other partisan organizations.
Obama supports infanticide; allowing babies that are born alive to be killed through neglect.
You know, the truth.
rmgraha on October 11, 2008 at 8:22 PM
rmgraha:
I am sorry, but it does not seem to me that McCain is not fighting. I honestly do not know what people expect. Do you want him to call nasty names? Question his heritage? His citizenship? Do you want him say that the man is a lying thieving sack of s*it?
One of the reasons that McCain actually had to point out that the man he is running against is a human being is that a lot of people out there are starting to sound a little hysterical.
I think McCain should fight too. And I think he has Palin out there pushing it. I doubt if there really is that much tension. I would not be surprised if all that is a ruse.’
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:24 PM
That needs to be sent to O’Reilly, Hannity, Rush and made into a commercial to be aired in every f***ing State immediately. That is damaging stuff right there. Why the f*** isn’t this all over the place right now. Obama needs to be attacked on his work with ACORN mercilessly from now until the election. It is utter BS that he is not taking the fall for his work with ACORN and their corruption and ties to this economic crisis. Utter BS.
Michael in MI on October 11, 2008 at 8:24 PM
rmgraha:
I don’t know where you have been, but McCain has said all those things about Obama.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:26 PM
Jdripper:
No, he is more worried about looking like a desperate man.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:27 PM
The whole premise is wrong, and I see the backstabbing in this statement.
She IS the fighter. Sarah Palin hasn’t given any impression in her political career that she “wants to look as though”.
She is, well…
what she is.
Palin understands the type of fight she is in. Like any natural born fighter she doesn’t run away from it. Her innate abilities led her to become a governor, not a legislator.
Saltysam on October 11, 2008 at 8:27 PM
I am starting to wonder if Mav is giving up.
I have not watched much TV today here in Indianapolis. I watched local news for an hour this morning, and I watched another local station from 7:30-8:00 tonight. During the morning news, I saw no fewer than 4 Obama ads. All were negative attack ads. At night, I saw 2 Obama ads in a half hour. 1 of the evening ads was an attack ad. The other was a touch, feely history of His Holiness. During either time, I did not see one Team McCain ad.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 11, 2008 at 8:29 PM
I’m with you, and Rudy, c-piglet. Sarah is cut from the same cloth as Rudy. Not so much on issues, but on fiber,and toughness. I guess that’s why I’m so fond of both. Oh! what a butt-kicking combo they would have made this year! No Way, no way, Rudy pulls the knife on SArah.
But Mitt has no shot, and lets be honest, neither does Rudy. They couldn’t take out old man River this year. I believe they are both done.
Its Palin, Jindal and Pawlenty in 2012. Look for the big government and elite Repubs to coalesce around Pawlenty. Palin gets everyone else–AND ME!!
PALIN 2012!!!
james23 on October 11, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Dr. Cwac:
I don’t watch a lot of TV, but I have seen a rough parity of McCain ads down here in southern Indiana, but the truth is Obama has more money, more ads.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:31 PM
No, because those are not the truth (except for the last, but even I don’t think he should state that publicly). McCain needs to take this presidential race seriously; I really don’t think he does right now. He’s trying to come off as Mr Nice Guy. Is Obama playing nice right now? Has he ever? NO! McCain is playing Welcome Wagon, Let’s Be Nice to Our Liberal Neighbors, while the democrats are trying to cut him (and Sarah) off at the knees. I truly think that McCain is throwing away opportunity after opportunity, just to be a nice guy. “Don’t hit a man when he’s down” does not work in national politics.
I will be casting my vote against Obama on November 4th, and for a Palin presidency in 2012. I just hope it’s good enough.
We’re Screwed ‘08
Sarah Palin 2012
rmgraha on October 11, 2008 at 8:32 PM
When it’s over, she’ll be grateful for the national exposure, but I bet she’ll be consoled by the base, while McCain is relegated to eating lunch in the Senate dining room with Lieberman, Graham, and the Democrats. Heck, I bet even Charlie Crisp and Tim Pawlenty won’t return his calls.
BuckeyeSam on October 11, 2008 at 7:34 PM
If this thing goes for 0Bama, Lieberman will be head of no committee and these three will be eating lunch in a basement somewhere!
Barry, Pelosi and Reid will not be magnanomous in victory they will make the loosers life miserable. These bipartisans will find out how friendly their freinds are when they don’t need them anymore. Anyone who doesn’t see this doesn’t understand the vitriol of the far leftists.
Go Sarah! It appears you’re our only hope!
dhunter on October 11, 2008 at 8:32 PM
Terrye, and Funky, you both deserve a bronze statue put up on the battlefield. Wish like hell I could carry an argument as well as you two.
Folks, pointing out the faults is all well and good, but screaming at the general when the right flank is caving in won’t do you a bit of good. Time to turn and face the enemy and quit telling the gold braid what a fix he has gotten you in. Write the ‘inside edition’ story after you’ve kicked the enemy off the field. I’m not telling you to be cheerleaders, I’m trying to point out that you need to just do your job and forget what the hell management is doing. Win or lose you can quit in disgust afterwards.
Limerick on October 11, 2008 at 8:34 PM
+1
james23 on October 11, 2008 at 8:35 PM
I don’t think Sarah is our only hope. Even with everything that has happened, McCain is still considered the most qualified for the job. His favorability ratings are still high and he is by far the one candidate favored for Commander in Chief.
I don’t know if that will be enough, but Palin would not stand a chance without him. Not now. In a few years however, she might have a real shot on her on. If her enemies don’t ruin her first.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Limerick:
Thank you. I am sure a lot of folks would disagree with you, but I appreciate it.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:38 PM
I want him to say:
“Fear not, my friends, because we’re going to win this thing. We’re going to win, because that is the best thing for America”
It’s not that tough to head off a little chatter from the crowd. The key is to NEVER say “your an idiot” to the boss, NEVER allow yourself to be agitated by the boss, and NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, indicate that you’re willing to work for the competition.
Saltysam on October 11, 2008 at 8:40 PM
For what it is worth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs
Robyn S on October 11, 2008 at 8:41 PM
Limerick,excellent point,now’s not the
time to be negative!:)
When,the going gets tough,the tough get going and
kick political #ss!:)
canopfor on October 11, 2008 at 8:43 PM
rmgraha:
McCain did say all the things about Obama you said he should say and yet you seem oblvious.
He said Obama wanted to surrender in a war as well. He said Obama was close to Ayers and did ads about it. He said Obama took hundreds of thousands from Fannie Mae sources and did ads about Raines and Johnson. He said that Obama has spent a million dollars a day on pork projects while he has been in the Senate.
As for Wright, everyone in this country knows about Rev. Wright. And it does not seem to matter.
McCain has done ads about all those things, done interviews about all those things, mentioned them in debates.
I am sorry if you missed it.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:43 PM
Rush is the voice of conservatism.
right4life on October 11, 2008 at 7:56 PM
Exactly right! The best antidote available for the MSM is Rush Limbaugh.
I’m with you also Limerick; we have far too many wussies on our side that get all “tail between the legs” when the media tells them all is lost.
Keemo on October 11, 2008 at 8:45 PM
I gave up in disgust. If you point out to people that bashing your candidate all the effin time isn’t going to get him elected, then you are called a cheerleader. Well the bashers are the cheerleaders for obama because as much as they deny it, by their actions they are doing everything to get him elected. They’re just too immature to admit it.
Blake on October 11, 2008 at 8:46 PM
Saltsyman:
That sounds a lot like what McCain said at the convention. But if he said we are going to win this thing, do you think that would keep people from stabbing him in the back, accusing him of betrayal and complaining?
I don’t. I don’t even think winning would stop them from doing that.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:46 PM
Blake:
I agree.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 8:47 PM
ClintACK on October 11, 2008 at 7:46 PM
ClintACK you are dead on McCain is the ultimate panderer learned through years in the Senate. He is trying hard to be O.K. for all, while trying to raise questions through surrogates about 0bama.
My problem with Mccain is he is less articulate than George Bush and farther to the left than W. I really think a Romney/ Palin would have closed this thing out by now as Romney can at least speak intelligently.
That said we won’t know until the votes are counted election night because I think a lot of folks that normally would vote Dem are not going to this year and I think they lie to the pollsters because they are lifelong Dems and afraid to be thought racists if it were known they are afraid of That One!
Heads up, fight on, there’s enough time for regret or celebration when this things over.
Anything in the media is for Obamas’ benefit they are not going to print good news for McCain/Palin.
dhunter on October 11, 2008 at 8:48 PM
That’s, of course, a matter of opinion.
barry norris on October 11, 2008 at 8:49 PM
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That’s what he said. Didn’t he say to not fear Obama in the Whitehouse? Just another way of expressing the conviction that Obama is NOT going there.
News2Use on October 11, 2008 at 8:49 PM
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