Report: McCain, Palin at odds over how hard to hit Obama
posted at 6:13 pm on October 11, 2008 by Allahpundit
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It’s too thinly sourced to be taken very seriously, but since our readership revels in the idea of the ‘Cuda being the scrapper to McCain’s squish, I figured you’d dig it.
The bit about Mark Salter does strike me as plausible.
With his electoral prospects fading by the day, Senator John McCain has fallen out with his vice-presidential running mate about the direction of his White House campaign…
Mark Salter, McCain’s long-serving chief of staff, is understood to have told campaign insiders that he would prefer his boss, a former Vietnam prisoner of war, to suffer an “honourable defeat” rather than conduct a campaign that would be out of character – and likely to lose him the election.
Palin, 44, has led the character attacks on Obama in the belief that McCain may be throwing away the election and her chance of becoming vice-president. Her supporters think that if the Republican ticket loses on November 4, she should run for president in 2012…
A McCain official confirmed that there was dissension in the campaign. “There is always going to be a debate about the costs and benefits of any strategy,” he said.
“After November 4, the feelings of individuals will come to light. It is only natural and will be expected.”…
A spokesman for McCain denied he and Palin had fallen out over her aggressive attacks. “Vice-presidential candidates are typically the tip of the spear and further out in front than the candidate for president. This is pretty standard fare,” he said.
Quoth an unnamed Republican consultant: “Sarah Palin is no fool. She sees the same thing [i.e. a likely defeat] and wants to salvage what she can. She is positioning herself for the future. Her best days could be in front of her. She wants to look as though she was the fighter, the person with the spunk who was out there taking it to the Democrats.” Any reason to believe that she and McCain really are at loggerheads? Well, (a) as the Times reminds us, she’s publicly questioned the campaign’s strategy in pulling out of Michigan as well as McCain’s decision not to go after Obama on Wright, (b) while Maverick’s begun inching away from the brass knuckles approach, she’s still telling people how eager the base is to see them take the gloves off, and (c) she’s famous in Alaska for not deferring to her political patrons when she thinks there’s something to be gained from opposing them. She’s built her career on it. If she wants to go out there and take it to Obama, there’s not much McCain can do except scream at her on the phone and hope she listens.
Exit question one: Is McCain’s attempt at calming the crowd yesterday the first inkling of the Salter “strategy” being put into effect? It’s worth noting that Palin herself eased off the Ayers stuff, but only in order to hammer Obama with one of the most red-meat social con speeches I’ve ever read. Exit question two: If they do lose, just how bad will the fingerpointing within the campaign be? I have visions of anonymous quotes starting to appear in the NYT circa mid-November about Palin’s Couric interview and McCain not being “tough enough”…
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Can’t wait to see what the Cuda can do without that dead weight known as McCain around her
Defector01 on October 11, 2008 at 6:14 PM
And there’s no third option? Like an aggressive campaign against Obama’s dangerous policies? Tying him to the Cook County Dem machine and its practices?
Wethal on October 11, 2008 at 6:16 PM
Oh, how I wish Condi would’ve run…
Opinionnation on October 11, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Stand up, Sarah, stand up. Let the old man yell at you. If he doesn’t have the stomach for it give him a tums and tell him to step aside. Fight Sarah, fight for us! You have nothing to lose but the White House.
gracie on October 11, 2008 at 6:17 PM
That’s also true, and McCain camp said that they did not ask him to say that, ie was of his own accord.
There just won’t be any time for any. We’ll all be too busy reading/hearing new, aforeunmentioned, revelations about Barack Obama.
Spirit of 1776 on October 11, 2008 at 6:18 PM
You bet, she would eat McCain and then spit him out (not that tasty).
foxone on October 11, 2008 at 6:18 PM
If the issue is a legitimate one, I say use a sledge hammer.
Zorro on October 11, 2008 at 6:19 PM
There was a reason Johnny Mac couldn’t beat GWB in 2000…
he is a horrible campaigner. And now that he’s 8 years older (nearing 112) he has no clue what the hell he is doing.
Opinionnation on October 11, 2008 at 6:20 PM
Salter needs to be kicked out of this campaign. He writes horrible speeches for McCain. BORING. And gives awful advice.
Palin is the reason McCain is not falling off the precipice.
“Fight with me.” Where is the fight McCain? Everyone is doing it except you.
jencab on October 11, 2008 at 6:20 PM
I really don’t get how McCain fought the gooks, fought the Republican right, fought Bush but now can’t fight Obama.
lodge on October 11, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Stop. You’re making me hopeful!
Spirit of 1776 on October 11, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Lemme fix that for ya’:
Report: McCain, nearly everyone else at odds over how hard to hit Obama
LegendHasIt on October 11, 2008 at 6:22 PM
If they’re really at odds, I hope the campaign corrects her quickly. Every time she mentions Ayers, it gives the media the opportunity to ignore the very real and effective message that McCain has on the financial crisis: specifically, that he championed reform, Democrats blocked it, and Obama contributed to the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. But all the media wants to talk about is how Sarah keeps talking about Ayers. We shouldn’t be giving them the excuse.
Caiwyn on October 11, 2008 at 6:22 PM
McCain didn’t have any problem winning the primary by misconstruing Romney’s comments on Iraq days before the vote in Florida, so why is he so concerned about stating facts now?
Dead Hand Control on October 11, 2008 at 6:22 PM
Palin has already started campaigning for 2012. That will either be her reelection or the groundswell defeat of Obama. I prefer to think it’s the former.
EMD on October 11, 2008 at 6:23 PM
McCain is wimpy from decades of Senate world. It’s always “my friends,” “he’s a decent guy,” ‘we need to be respectful.”
Typical Senate speak, grab each other’s rear ends while taxpayers get gouged.
While I will vote for McCain-Palin, there is only one womam in this race who will fight for you! That’s Sarah Palin.
Captain America on October 11, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Mav is playing like he expects to be in the Senate a long time. Can’t get too partisan, lest he be unable to follow up on McCain/Kennedy, McCain/Feingold, McCain/Leiberman, etc.
innominatus on October 11, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Sarah is the future of our party. Probably the future of our country.
You can tell how afraid the Dems are by how often they ask Republicans, “Is she a drag on your ticket?” Colmes is obsessed: he’s going to keep asking until some Republican (other than a nobody like Kathleen Parker) says “yes.”
Once the voters finally and mercifully put McCain out of his misery, Sarah can take her place as head of the conservative movement, burnish her credentials, and be ready to kick President
CarterObama’s butt in 2012.__________
RJGatorEsq. on October 11, 2008 at 6:23 PM
There will be plenty of recriminations flying around from all corners after 11/4. I can definitely see Romney/Huckabee/Giuliani loyalists citing the Couric interview etc once its all over in an attempt to cast blame on their rival for 2012. There may be some of the “Mac was too nice” stuff from the Palin camp but I wouldn’t think that she would want to burn any bridges. For myself, I’ll be looking to buy a “Don’t blame me, I voted for McCain” bumper sticker once the shit hits the fan during The One’s first 100 days.
BrianBoru on October 11, 2008 at 6:24 PM
‘Cause Roms has an R after his name.
Spirit of 1776 on October 11, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Prediction: Palin will go back to Alaska, Alaska will become a shining city on a hill whilst Obama leads the lower 48 into ruin.
lodge on October 11, 2008 at 6:25 PM
As I have said during the primaries, to those who supported McCain – you only get what you deserve. If you have Rudy debating Obama, he’d be shred to pieces. Romney or Thompson would have done a better job. I believe that McCain is jeopardizing his own campaign. He probably wanted Obama to win. Bye Bye GOP. Obama will change the landscape of American elections. Voter fraud will rule every future elections. You can see what Acorn is doing and it will just get worse. Obama will change the supreme court, will radicalize the institutions more that you can imagine, etc.
mariloubaker on October 11, 2008 at 6:25 PM
FIFY
RushBaby on October 11, 2008 at 6:27 PM
I was a Giuliani supporter, and I love Sarah Palin. So does he. I’ve seen a few disgruntled “shoulda been Mitt” people around here, but generally, people love Palin.
It never would have occurred to me to use that interview against her.
capitalist piglet on October 11, 2008 at 6:27 PM
McCain has the idea that he needs to hold off trashing the democrats because he will need to work with them when he gets elected
He forgets this is the same group that tried rrepeatedly to undermine GW and has no willingness to work with any GOPer.
McCain should have attacked Congress long ago. He’s refusial to do that only proves he is still tring to cling to the hope of Bipartisanship with a very partisan group.
William Amos on October 11, 2008 at 6:28 PM
Via the link above:
Just read today’s speech by Palin on Obama and abortion.
Where is McCain’s similarly impassioned speech about Obama, Democrats, Fannie Mae, ACORN, financial mess, etc.??
Oh, wait – McCain is taking the weekend off to let the hot-tempered Republicans calm down.
fred5678 on October 11, 2008 at 6:28 PM
OK. Run against the Democrats. Keep naming names as to whom is responsible for the economic mess. Remind voters that they will get more of the same or worse with Barry at the helm.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 11, 2008 at 6:31 PM
If in the aftermath of a (not yet conceded) loss, my unfortunate Senator McCain wants to complain about the Couric interview, he and his have only themselves to blame for a poorly conceived roll out of this awesome asset, Sarah Palin. As Joe Biden might say – God love her. She may have to introduce herself to Washington.
exdeadhead on October 11, 2008 at 6:31 PM
So we’ll all move to Alaska…Take it to ‘em, Sarah. McCain is waiting for you to just do it. He’s out of gas. He can’t explain his good ideas about regrowing the economy to the people…Sarah can…she’s The One. Fight, Sarah Fight. Damn the torpedoes as the Mac would say…GO GO GO….
gracie on October 11, 2008 at 6:32 PM
“honourable defeat”
Now what is it McCain & Co., said a Dems who wanted to suffer an “honourable defeat” in Iraq?
TheBigOldDog on October 11, 2008 at 6:32 PM
Me too, but I do think that she has an obligation to dance the dance of the one that brung her, so to speak. He is campaigning to be President. It isn’t her turn to do that yet.
angelat0763 on October 11, 2008 at 6:34 PM
She needs to pull the eject cord on Yosemite Sam.
Unless McCain goes after the truth on the financial scam, he’s toasted.
tarpon on October 11, 2008 at 6:35 PM
Phenomenal impassioned speech from Palin On Abortion in Johnstown…c’mon, no matter what side you’re on you gotta believe her….let’s go…let’s go
gracie on October 11, 2008 at 6:36 PM
That’s true. But so far, she’s the only one that has pierced the protective layer the media has around Obama.
What criticism of Obama has McCain done that’s stuck
Spirit of 1776 on October 11, 2008 at 6:37 PM
I think McCain’s looking at internal numbers telling him that the public wants the bickering to end, and numbers that show a lot of moderate undecideds still to be had…and with that said, I want him to blast away at REAL issues (ACORN, FM/FM/Dem complicity, etc.).
Patrick S on October 11, 2008 at 6:37 PM
So McCain is done — sucks that Obama gets the keys to the White House… but if it means Palin in 2012, I’m good.
Republican on October 11, 2008 at 6:37 PM
I never in a million years thought McCain would lack the stomach to fight.
Domestically, I guess he only has the stomach to fight members of his own party.
Not being able to properly identify the enemy is a major weakness. Maybe he just lacks the judgment necessary to be President.
TheBigOldDog on October 11, 2008 at 6:37 PM
Dude, this is the single best comment I’ve read on McCain’s campaign. He’s taking the fall. He’s admitting defeat and he’s going to try and be conciliatory so that he and Lieberman can have some influence in the Senate or for some such nonsense. It’s disgusting. It’s sickening. And it’s going to really hurt the country when Obama socializes huge swaths of the economy and the nation.
Outlander on October 11, 2008 at 6:38 PM
I’ve resigned myself with the fact that the above are correct, but that McCain will not listen to anyone and do it his way. I cannot reconcile his instincts with common sense.
Having said that, if he loses, he will be persona non grata in Republican circles, and historically will be second guessed forever for ushering in a socialist welfare state.
Now I learn on WSJ Review on Fox that the roundtable says that 10 million taxpayers who do not pay taxes now, will get tax credits for various things rather than calling it welfare. That is IF they file for them…….guess who will help them file?
So, I am willing to give McCain the benefit of doubt here and make his best judgement. I respectfully disagree, but he knows, that at age 72, he will not get another shot if he loses.
Starlink on October 11, 2008 at 6:40 PM
I know this is Rush’s charracter but I like the Popeye image better “I yam what I yam…100% American”..or “That’s all I can stands I can’t stands no more”. Sarah looks a little like Olive Oyl and then there’s Sweet Pea (Trig).
gracie on October 11, 2008 at 6:41 PM
We want Sarah now…can’t wait until 2012…she could get a breast cancer or something really awful and then people would say…ah, she’s sick. No…we want her now…need her now..
gracie on October 11, 2008 at 6:44 PM
My daughter at the dinner table liked the Yosemite Sam character. She also blurted out that Palin was Tweetie Bird….”…..I thought I saw a democrat….”
Starlink on October 11, 2008 at 6:45 PM
I never knew McCain’s normal character was that of a pussy.
Considering the bizarre remarks of so many other Washington insiders, it wouldn’t be surprise me if Salter is like the nut who said republicans shouldn’t attack obama because, you know, he’s black.
Blake on October 11, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Yup. Condi-Cuda would have been unbeatable.
unclesmrgol on October 11, 2008 at 6:46 PM
In past elections for President the Media reported on the good, the bad, the ugly and the questionable about each candidate.
McCain (and Hillary Clinton) must have been thinking the Media would do their part to treat Obama like the Media was treating them – report it all; good, bad and ugly.
Unfortunately, during this election the Media has only reported on the good of Obama and white washed, ignored or glossed over the bad, ugly and questionable parts about Obama’s past.
Polls show that most people say they really don’t know who Obama is.
And so McCain and Clinton should have had an active, full-time education program about Obama; telling people daily about the bad, ugly and questionable things about him – “Who really is Barack Obama?”.
They did not do this.
And now anytime a not-so-glowing comment about Obama was made by McCain or Clinton they were shouted down by the Obama people, other Democrats and the Media.
They both backed down or curtailed other mentions of negative things about Obama.
Total mistake.
It should have been an on-going, daily program from the day McCain knew Obama would be the Democratic nominee – educating the public on the bad, ugly and questionable of Obama.
It is surprising how little new information the McCain campaign has on Obama (where were all the Republican lawyers digging into Obama’s garbage and past?) …or they are holding it for the last week; which I doubt.
Now, as the election comes to an end, any attacks are painted by the Obama camp as shrill, desperate, petty and of course, “racist”. Plus the comments are lost in the financial disaster headlines of the day.
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What puzzles me most about the McCain campaign is…is this all there is? If so, lets have the election next Tuesday and get it over with.
albill on October 11, 2008 at 6:47 PM
http://radarsite.blogspot.com/2008/10/breaking-story-prosecutor-patrick.html
Anybody have information??
Mercy4Me on October 11, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Look dont put all the blame on McCain the whole GOP has been downsliding for the poast 6 years.
We got overconfident in 2004. We talked about the genius of Rove and how the GOP was invincible.
The GOP has always had historical problems with winning more than losing. We know how to win when we are down we suck at winning when we are up.
The GOP still has too mant lessions to learn and its a collective failure.
William Amos on October 11, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Meant to post this here, instead of other thread:
I wonder if McCain doesn’t overly object to the tactics that Obama is engaged in, perhaps he considers them justified for a minority. About the only thing he has gotten really angry over is the charge or racism out of his (Mac’s) camp.
I’m not saying that’s the case, nor anything macabre by that, but he has a history with amnesty, etc, to look past illegality for the sake of a story.
Spirit of 1776 on October 11, 2008 at 6:48 PM
John,
Let me put this in as pleasant a way that I can:
MY COUNTRY IS MORE PRECIOUS THAN YOUR F***ING HONOR.
Thank you for listening.
Editor on October 11, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Palin is getting all of the news coverage while John is falling asleep at the wheel.
Someone needs to send John to bed for a nap.
DannoJyd on October 11, 2008 at 6:50 PM
No More Drama. I am sick of McCain’s tip toeing through the lilies. Man up.
It is a sad day when a guy like McCain who suffered through torture and spit at the eye of the captors, to suddenly become weak.
He should not be looking for sympathy votes. I want a leader, not a man who surrenders.
jencab on October 11, 2008 at 6:50 PM
You said what every republican is thinking. Thank you!
jencab on October 11, 2008 at 6:51 PM
Editor on October 11, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Editor ‘08!!!
innominatus on October 11, 2008 at 6:51 PM
Alaska’s looking better and better. May be all we have left after Obaa-aa-aama.
tickleddragon on October 11, 2008 at 6:51 PM
If Mac wanted to win, he’d have spent the weekend on the attack…sigh.
Personally, I’m hoping for Jindal/Palin, with Duncan Hunter in there somehow in 2012. It’s cynical, but having McCain win, with what certainly looks like a several year depression, will completely kill conservatism. Imagine the nutroots chanting “say no to 12 years of Rethuglicans destroying our economy!” in the next election!
Let the American public have their little tantrum, and vote for the Democrat, while we rebuild, and start spreading the message again of freedom, small government, and lower taxes.
It’ll be 1980 all over again.
In the meantime, sell what you can before the end of the year to avoid cap gains taxes, and batten down the hatches-this is going to be some awful tasting medicine.
hippie_chucker on October 11, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Dole 2008!
TexasJew on October 11, 2008 at 6:55 PM
Dried-up Old Nutsacks/Palin ‘08!
TexasJew on October 11, 2008 at 6:57 PM
I miss Fred.
tickleddragon on October 11, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Agreed. The only silver lining to the dark cloud of socialism looming over our heads for four years is a rejuvenated conservative movement. McCain is the last of the neocons. Win or lose you won’t see a neocon after him. Carter gave us Reagan and Clinton gave us W. BTW, I think things looked bleaker for W in 2000 just before the election. Let’s not count McCain out. He’s certainly faced far greater opponents than BHO.
Mojave Mark on October 11, 2008 at 7:00 PM
If this is thinly sourced, (UK Times), then there is the possibility that the story is MOSTLY wrong. Maybe it is Salter that has the problems, and McCain is not quite sold on giving up. McCain received a good bit of flack for the wacko Dem plants in the audience screaming Obama was a terrorist, and death to Obama. THAT is why I think he backed off at the end of the week. Plus it is just in his nature to be so flipping bipartisan.
I hate that so many of you have given up, or accepted this as the gospel or resigned to McCain’s defeat. We have NOT voted yet and we still have weeks to go until the end. I just read an interesting analysis of Ohio that suggest McCain is going to win Ohio and MO. There are several stories today that suggest the race is closer than what we are being told. Rush said we are going to have to carry Yosemite Sam and Tweety Bird over the line and that is what I plan on doing.
I remember a story a while back from our resident pessimist Allah, remember the one that asked if Palin would knife Mac Daddy in the back since she is know to be a feather ruffleler in her own party? Most of us said we thought she would, and he had better watch out. WEEEEELLLLLLLLL! Back meet knife! ROCK ON SARACUDA! ROCK ON! Win it for us!
freeus on October 11, 2008 at 7:00 PM
Sarah should just be allowed to talk to Americans.
Forget the pollsters. Talk to us.
Speak up, Sarah. We want leaders!
We’re obviously not going to get it this go ’round.
Cody1991 on October 11, 2008 at 7:01 PM
You’re certainly free to have this opinion, but I would have no desire for that. Aside from her “mildly pro-choice” stance, her plan to give tens of millions of dollars in weapons to the Palestinians pretty much killed any enthusiasm I may have had for her.
CP on October 11, 2008 at 7:02 PM
Fred would be mopping the floor with Obama. So would Huck. So would Romney or Giuliani. We are stuck with the one guy who can’t or won’t.
TheBigOldDog on October 11, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Ditto, I would so much rather have a Thompson/Palin ticket. Good lord, McCain’s driving me nuts. It’s always one step forward, two steps back with him.
CP on October 11, 2008 at 7:04 PM
I agree. Obama’s election will set an ugly precedent for rationalizing any conduct for the ends of winning (voter fraud, foreign financing, truth squads, threatened DOJ investigations, astroturfing, media cooperation, breaking into e-mail accounts, racial baiting, and the like). Obama’s saying one thing and doing or condoning another, while McCain’s picking his nose. I have no doubt that Obama and Axelrod laugh every night at what they’re getting away with.
McCain’s wrong to say Obama’s not dangerous. Leaving what he’ll do to the economy aside, it’s the institutional stuff that petrifies me–Supreme Court appointments and appointments for the circuit courts and district courts. And they remain in place for life or good behavior. I get sick thinking about it. As a result of the recent prisoners’ rights decision this past summer, McLean, Virginia, almost became the new residence of those Chinese. How about education “reform”? The best we can hope for there is that he accomplishes nothing, despite blowing a lot of money, as he and Ayers did with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.
As far as I’m concerned, nothing is negative if it’s the truth. I have no idea what McCain hopes to accomplish by holding out olive branches in the next debate. Obama’s already called him out–say it to my face. Say it; heck, hit him with a figurative two-by-four. I’ve waiting for McCain to expose Obama as the emperor with no clothes for too long.
Two words: scorched earth.
BuckeyeSam on October 11, 2008 at 7:04 PM
No kidding, I may consider moving there if he wins.
CP on October 11, 2008 at 7:04 PM
I wonder who leaked this and why. I can’t see Palin being this disloyal. But maybe someone close to her?
It could also be a McCain staffer who’s frustrated by the “honorable defeatism.” Or some other GOP insider/candidate who’s equally frustrated…and worried about his own prospects.
Wethal on October 11, 2008 at 7:06 PM
Proof positive that when the going gets tough the tough point fingers. Not McCain, BTW. Instead of trying to win it is about positioning yourself to be part of the i-told-you-so-group.
I’ll stick with the fight. Please leave your weapons on the field since you aren’t interested in using them.
Limerick on October 11, 2008 at 7:06 PM
No kidding, I may consider moving there if he wins.
CP on October 11, 2008 at 7:04 PM
You don’t have to worry. The money will be flowing out like a torrent.
TexasJew on October 11, 2008 at 7:06 PM
Side note, talk radio guys who are local,straight
across the bridge in Michigan are dumb-founded as
to why McCain pulled out!
Lord love a duck,can Team McCain, like not let the
ever helpful MSM know every stinkin detail about their
campaign!!
Example,overnight talk radio,top of the news hour,the
townhall meeting with the women commenting about Obama,
the news said McCain was ‘angry’!!!
Team Mccain,note to the RNC,Hot Air probably has,adding up everyones time,probably amounts to over 5 years on this
election,—————————–will you please fight,
and go the distance,theres less than 3 weeks,and 3 days to
go!!
Signed,your concerned neighbour!!:)
canopfor on October 11, 2008 at 7:06 PM
And the pentagon, and the courts, and the prosecutors, and a media monopoly, et cetera and so on.
John McCain don’t you back down now!
RushBaby on October 11, 2008 at 7:07 PM
I certainly havent given up on McCain. I just think that most of us here could have strategized his last month better than the campaign…which sounds harsh as I read it, but still.
Suspend your campaign…then jump back in, then erratically start swinging at Ayers, when the public should have known about him in July…and then declare Wright is off limits? Huh?
Obama has the biggest glass jaw of any candidate for POTUS, ever, and Mac can’t seem to land a blow on it, other than the brilliant Paris Hilton ads, back in the good ole days.
hippie_chucker on October 11, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Watching Palin and McCain, I’m starting to think ovaries are gutsier than onions.
petefrt on October 11, 2008 at 7:11 PM
Mark Salter, McCain’s long-serving chief of staff, is understood to have told campaign insiders that he would prefer his boss, a former Vietnam prisoner of war, to suffer an “honourable defeat” rather than conduct a campaign that would be out of character – and likely to lose him the election.
You mean “out of character” like being a decent Republican?
TexasJew on October 11, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Along these lines, sadly enough, McCain increasingly comes across like Elmer Fudd trying to trap Bugs Bunny (Obama). The problem is that I don’t find McCain so lovable, and I don’t find Obama that talented or that resourceful or that likable.
BuckeyeSam on October 11, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Watching Palin and McCain, I’m starting to think ovaries are gutsier than onions.
petefrt on October 11, 2008 at 7:11 PM
Those aren’t onions, they’re brussel sprouts.
TexasJew on October 11, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Actually, that may be part of what has been happening over the past three weeks.
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RJGatorEsq. on October 11, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Come dude. This isn’t a meeting of Kathleen Parkers. And even the winning team talks in the locker room of halftime.
The question is one of direction. What is the direction Mac is taking? How can it be amplified? And if his direction is wrong (as in won’t be victorious), can grassroots or Palin make up the difference?
Those are fair questions.
Spirit of 1776 on October 11, 2008 at 7:13 PM
On Drudge:
Maybe the old man knows how to play it more than we do?
As Kausfiles says, “Just asking!”
silverfox on October 11, 2008 at 7:14 PM
We can thank McCain for making Sarah his VP choice. But that’s about it. If he has any honor, he should at least try to leave the Republican party intact.
I don’t think there is a conservative bone in his body. I wouldn’t be that surprised to see him switch to Democrat in the next Congress.
huckleberryfriend on October 11, 2008 at 7:14 PM
Again in fairness to McCain the MSM has turned into the democratic party propaganda machine and the Democratic party into the thugmafia clan that hands out rewards to the “Family” for their “Deeds”
That is a tough fight for anyone. Add to it a clueless GOP party and Bush just sitting back just wanted to get out of office with his skin intact its the whole stinking mess.
William Amos on October 11, 2008 at 7:14 PM
I haven’t the time to read the article just now but that sentence makes me feel patronized…. just so you know.
For the record, neither of these canidates are completely acceptable to me… just so much better than the competition.
petunia on October 11, 2008 at 7:16 PM
With anything less than this, it just wouldn’t be cricket.
- The Cat
MirCat on October 11, 2008 at 7:16 PM
McCain should listen to Palin; she had energized the base when he couldn’t. We need people who will fight for us and with us. Those people in Wisconsin (rally) fired me up, as they had the guts to say what needs to be said, over and over.
Keemo on October 11, 2008 at 7:18 PM
lol, it’s true.
hawkdriver on October 11, 2008 at 7:20 PM
It seems that McCain’s campaign is suffering from a severe case of schizophrenia. Mixed messages daily to say the least. If I can see this so can many others. McCain is losing control.
Egfrow on October 11, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Whether or not this story is accurate, who can deny that this appears to be what McCain has been doing this week, with his “he’s an honourable family man, citizen” comment and the “I don’t care about some old terrorists.”
This confirms a lot of our suspicions.
CanadianGuy on October 11, 2008 at 7:21 PM
McCain shouldn’t sacrifice his honor for his campaign. But what is dishonorable about:
1. Pointing out, in clear and easy-to-understand language (and not by rote repetition of tepid talking points that make you sound out of touch), that Obama and his liberal allies in Congress are tax & spend crazies who are going to socialize huge parts of the economy and prolong our agony;
2. Putting forth a coherent, positive vision for how to get our country out of this economic mess;
3. Hitting Obama on the thinness of his resume and his radical associations to reinforce points #1 and #2.
So far, all I see McCain doing is flailing around, going off half-cocked, and appearing desperate while giving no message or vision. No, you don’t want McCain going around pantsing Obama on Jeremiah Wright. You want McCain to LEAD. He isn’t doing that. Obama isn’t, either, but he fakes it much better.
Outlander on October 11, 2008 at 7:21 PM
McCain do you realy think all of these people coming to your rallys are coming to see you.They are sure as hell not coming to here you say we must be respectful of sen. Obama.I would tell you to grow a set but it,a little bit late.
thmcbb on October 11, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Those two should get their acts together whether they are quarreling or not. Palin gives us red meat; McCain backs off.
Can’t take the mixed message, guys. Very frustrated here. Losing interest in the whole….zzzzzzz
PattyJ on October 11, 2008 at 7:22 PM
if mccain had any honor, he’d give up running for president for the good of the country, because he’s a disaster. turn it over to someone who has some guts…Palin.
but mccain prefers to lose so he’ll get back in the good graces of the grey lady…the NY times, and his liberal buddies.
right4life on October 11, 2008 at 7:22 PM
I wouldn’t put too much stock in this. I think that one of the reasons McCain picked Palin was to have a pit bull with lipstick.
I think the only thing that probably really worries him if some crowd gets too rough or something and he gets blamed for something stupid someone said or did.
But that is politics. And a lot of people really do not like Obama.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 7:23 PM
YES WE DO. get a clue.
right4life on October 11, 2008 at 7:23 PM
What Sarah should say-defuses the racism charge, while making O’s associations fair game..
“Listen, folks, I know some of you are angry at the thought of an Obama presidency. I know that when you take a careful look at who the man has surrounded himself with to get to power, men like Rev.Wright, Tony Rezko, and Bill Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist, you’ve become angry, and rightly so.
Some in the media have seen fit to paint this justified anger as racism. Let me tell you, questioning someone’s past associations is not racist, and if our media wasn’t so dead set against our campaign, they’d be doing as much digging on Obama as they have on my high school math grades!” crowd goes wild….
hippie_chucker on October 11, 2008 at 7:23 PM
hippie_chucker on October 11, 2008 at 7:23 PM
Perfect.
Spirit of 1776 on October 11, 2008 at 7:25 PM
This thread needs theme music:
Tommy Petty
I Wont Back Down!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHJMp5bz9u8
canopfor on October 11, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Better to go out with a bang than with a whimper.
MB4 on October 11, 2008 at 7:26 PM
right4life:
That is a really nasty thing to say about a man who spent 22 years in the military, fought for his country and was incarcerated in an enemy POW camp for years. Whatever else you could say about McCain, the man does not lack courage.
I don’t this is about courage.
And while I will vote for McCain/Palin and I think the case brought her against her is largely political, right now Palin is not exactly a plus for the ticket. I hate to say that because I respect Sarah Palin, but I am afraid that is the truth in terms of the upcoming election.
Terrye on October 11, 2008 at 7:26 PM
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