Report: McCain, Palin at odds over how hard to hit Obama

posted at 6:13 pm on October 11, 2008 by Allahpundit

It’s too thinly sourced to be taken very seriously, but since our readership revels in the idea of the ‘Cuda being the scrapper to McCain’s squish, I figured you’d dig it.

The bit about Mark Salter does strike me as plausible.

With his electoral prospects fading by the day, Senator John McCain has fallen out with his vice-presidential running mate about the direction of his White House campaign…

Mark Salter, McCain’s long-serving chief of staff, is understood to have told campaign insiders that he would prefer his boss, a former Vietnam prisoner of war, to suffer an “honourable defeat” rather than conduct a campaign that would be out of character – and likely to lose him the election.

Palin, 44, has led the character attacks on Obama in the belief that McCain may be throwing away the election and her chance of becoming vice-president. Her supporters think that if the Republican ticket loses on November 4, she should run for president in 2012…

A McCain official confirmed that there was dissension in the campaign. “There is always going to be a debate about the costs and benefits of any strategy,” he said.

“After November 4, the feelings of individuals will come to light. It is only natural and will be expected.”…

A spokesman for McCain denied he and Palin had fallen out over her aggressive attacks. “Vice-presidential candidates are typically the tip of the spear and further out in front than the candidate for president. This is pretty standard fare,” he said.

Quoth an unnamed Republican consultant: “Sarah Palin is no fool. She sees the same thing [i.e. a likely defeat] and wants to salvage what she can. She is positioning herself for the future. Her best days could be in front of her. She wants to look as though she was the fighter, the person with the spunk who was out there taking it to the Democrats.” Any reason to believe that she and McCain really are at loggerheads? Well, (a) as the Times reminds us, she’s publicly questioned the campaign’s strategy in pulling out of Michigan as well as McCain’s decision not to go after Obama on Wright, (b) while Maverick’s begun inching away from the brass knuckles approach, she’s still telling people how eager the base is to see them take the gloves off, and (c) she’s famous in Alaska for not deferring to her political patrons when she thinks there’s something to be gained from opposing them. She’s built her career on it. If she wants to go out there and take it to Obama, there’s not much McCain can do except scream at her on the phone and hope she listens.

Exit question one: Is McCain’s attempt at calming the crowd yesterday the first inkling of the Salter “strategy” being put into effect? It’s worth noting that Palin herself eased off the Ayers stuff, but only in order to hammer Obama with one of the most red-meat social con speeches I’ve ever read. Exit question two: If they do lose, just how bad will the fingerpointing within the campaign be? I have visions of anonymous quotes starting to appear in the NYT circa mid-November about Palin’s Couric interview and McCain not being “tough enough”…


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BuckeyeSam on October 12, 2008 at 2:19 PM

Your close, but still wide of the mark…

Its not welfare, its BRIBERY.

They will get more money back than they pay in. Its class warfare and wealth redistribution at its worst.

Romeo13 on October 12, 2008 at 2:24 PM

You were supposed to call bullshit on that post. We all wish that McCain would say something along those lines.

csdeven on October 12, 2008 at 12:44 PM

My mistake, I guess I am too eager for good news :(

neuquenguy on October 12, 2008 at 2:59 PM

McCain must be dragged kicking and apologizing into the Oval Offie.

For Sarah’s sake.

And the Republic’s.

Just say No! to the crpto-Marxist weasel and his coterie of cranks, kooks, cravens and creeps.

profitsbeard on October 12, 2008 at 3:19 PM

Allahpundit: He’s As Helpful As Leprosy!!

grtflmark on October 12, 2008 at 3:36 PM

It does not surprise me one bit that “mean girl” Sarah wants to go on the attack to enhance her future political career. She has a history both with people and with animals of being a barracuda.

McCain really screwed up by choosing Cold-Goddess rather than someone competent and with half a heart as his running mate. I wonder if McCain, who seems to love animals as we never have seen him out shooting/killing any of them, and he’s got a menagerie at home, cringes while viewing the TV ads showing the barbaric chasing to exhaustion and shooting of wolves, which Ice-Princess supports?

Except for the extreme right, most folks want all animals treated humanely. On the subject, according to mediacurves.com, the following ad is sending Indy, Dem and Repub voters over to Obama:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQobIUE1zTU

Another similar video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGPFPBmzRrQ

And then there’s the public’s view of McCain regarding animals.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11588.html

Pet owners favor McCain

Excerpt:

An AP-Yahoo News poll found that pet owners favor McCain over Obama 42 percent to 37 percent, with dog owners particularly in McCain’s corner.

“I think a person who owns a pet is a more compassionate person — caring, giving, trustworthy. I like pet owners,” said Janet Taylor of Plymouth, Mass.

On the other hand, the poll found that among people who don’t have pets, Obama leads McCain 48 percent to 34 percent.

But that still leaves McCain looking strong, since the majority of homes have a pet.

I’d say McCain and Palin are anything but a match for a number of reasons, and I bet he deeply regrets having chosen her as his running mate.

BTW, does Sarah Pain even have a pet?! I do not recall ever seeing Ice-Goddess-Barracuda and her family with any pets.

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 3:46 PM

They will get more money back than they pay in. Its class warfare and wealth redistribution at its worst.

Romeo13 on October 12, 2008 at 2:24 PM

I don’t disagre that it’s class warfare and wealth redistribution. The real problem is that it’s incredibly short-sighted. For a short-term buck, these idiots will throw away the prospect of encouraging job creaters both big and small. Obama needs to understand that at least one reason the large C corporations send operations overseas is a top corporate rate of 35%. And then shareholders pay income tax on their dividends on top of that.

My dad (retired mfg engineer) recently visited a Toyota or Honda plant in Georgetown, KY. He said it was unbelievable. Motivated non-union workfore, great working conditions, etc. Two of our biggest institutions–one private and one public–demonstrate what a drag unions are on our economy and what failures they are in achieving competence, let alone excellence. Private: auto industry; public: public eduation. Granted, with all union-type work, if management did a better job of sharing rewards, laborers would be inclined to dump unions as unneeded. But Dems have used unions to prop them up for too long. Dems talk about workers voting against economic self-interest. Someone tell me how things are going in Michigan. But, heck, those auto workers have their union benefits.

BuckeyeSam on October 12, 2008 at 3:58 PM

BTW, does Sarah Pain even have a pet?! I do not recall ever seeing Ice-Goddess-Barracuda and her family with any pets.

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 3:46 PM

NO, of course not Shelby.

Everyone knows that hunters eat their pets. They can’t help it. It’s all part of their bloodthirsty culture of death.

When I say “pet”, of course I mean in the way we think of them, not in the way the death cultists do. They view them more as an alternative food source for when a hunt doesn’t fill their freezers with their bloody booty.

Instead of Fido, a dog would likely be known as Pork Chop. As in, the other white meat.

TheCulturalist on October 12, 2008 at 4:09 PM

BTW, does Sarah Pain even have a pet?! I do not recall ever seeing Ice-Goddess-Barracuda and her family with any pets.

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 3:46 PM

NO, of course not Shelby.

Everyone knows that hunters eat their pets. They can’t help it. It’s all part of their bloodthirsty culture of death.

Sarah does seem to have a bloodthirsty nature. Maybe that explains her non-desire for having pets?

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM

McCain is the REAL manchurian candidate. The leftie’s allies in Vietnam implanted a chip in his brain while he was a prisoner. But really; McCains long history on being resistive and intransigent against true conservatives is even more disgusting given this lightweight campaign against an extremely vulnerable media-built sham opponent. I never thought that the democrats could come up with someone who makes Clinton look like a righteously noble person. If the American people put this type of deceiver into office, we deserve what we get.

cjk on October 12, 2008 at 4:19 PM

I wonder, how these “conservatives, who don’t have a dog in the fight” will yelp, when they’re having Socialized Medicine shoved up their tail-end?

franksalterego on October 12, 2008 at 4:21 PM

At least when McCain loses, it won’t be a surprise to us. We won’t be like those Kerry dopes who actually thought the majority bought their stupid National Guard forgery and John Kerry’s Vietnam “heroics”.

Speedwagon82 on October 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM

My mistake, I guess I am too eager for good news :(

neuquenguy on October 12, 2008 at 2:59 PM

Don’t feel bad. I am so eager for good news, I spent 45 minutes typing that BS up just to make myself feel better.

csdeven on October 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM

I never thought that the democrats could come up with someone who makes Clinton look like a righteously noble person. If the American people put this type of deceiver into office, we deserve what we get.

cjk on October 12, 2008 at 4:19 PM

I absolutely could not agree more! Both tickets are extremely pathetic this election. There’s a saying that people deserve the government they elect. I did not vote for either McCain or Obama in the primaries, and I also will not vote for either of them in the GE.

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 4:30 PM

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 3:46 PM

Here is another one I sure Sarah would like.

I know I did. The sound of the spike crushing their skulls is, well, delicious!

csdeven on October 12, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Sarah does seem to have a bloodthirsty nature. Maybe that explains her non-desire for having pets?

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM

Yeah, and on top of that, she refuses to murder babies. What a skank!

csdeven on October 12, 2008 at 4:37 PM

I know I did. The sound of the spike crushing their skulls is, well, delicious!

csdeven on October 12, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Sorry, will not be wasting my time watching something that someone such as yourself finds thrilling.

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Sarah does seem to have a bloodthirsty nature. Maybe that explains her non-desire for having pets?

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM

Yeah, and on top of that, she refuses to murder babies. What a skank!

csdeven on October 12, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Well, it’s debatable whether she is a skank…she did get preggers before wedding.

And PLEASE come up with another shtick! Your “not a baby killer” response to ANY CRITICISM OF YOUR CANDIDATE IS OLD AND BORING. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 4:41 PM

And your animal rights whining isn’t? Did you ever see a polar bear rip a baby seal to shreds? Have you ever seen thousands of baby seals suffer a long slow death of starvation, just to be hunted down and massacred by sharks in the end?

Spare us your inability to deal with the facts of life. You want to save seals? Then go get their parents to practice birth control. And if that doesn’t work, I’m sure the sharks and polar bears will be sensitive to your wackiness and will spare the lives of the poor little seals. And if all else fails, you can go feed those 300,000 baby seals so they can stay strong enough to get away from the polar bears and sharks.

It’s better to bash their tiny skulls in with a spiked club than to allow them to suffer from starvation just to have them ripped apart in the end.

And, the more baby seals are eaten by sharks and polar bears, the more sharks and polar bears will be born and they in turn will eat more doe eyed baby seals.

csdeven on October 12, 2008 at 4:58 PM

Sarah does seem to have a bloodthirsty nature. Maybe that explains her non-desire for having pets?

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM

That statement borders on insanity and isn’t worthy of any further response.

rplat on October 12, 2008 at 5:09 PM

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Uh, you do know that Barry has only said he’ll get his kids a dog AFTER the election?

Romeo13 on October 12, 2008 at 5:09 PM

This is a little off topic but here’s and interesting headline from today’s “UAA Today”: Polls: Obama lead holds

But Gallup tracking shows the Democrat with a 50%-43% lead over John McCain among registered voters, down from 9 points Saturday.

Notice that Obama’s lead is actually down by 2 points. A lead exists but the trend is down. The mainstream media is so putridly biased and corrupt that they simply don’t care if it shows.

rplat on October 12, 2008 at 5:17 PM

Look at it this way, guys. Juan Mcain is the worst thing to be representing anything associated with conservatism ( even though he is a merely Rino) and his defeat can be a good thing as long as we get out in front of the narrative. Obama is going to win and the hounds of liberal hell will be unleashed for all Americans to see. That wont sit well after the dust settles. Juan is a liberal, and you can’t out-liberal a marxist. Juan had a golden opportunity with standing firm on free-market principles, tax cuts, etc to oppose Bush/Obama/ Big gov crap sandwich and should have held a press conference on the steps of the senate , arm and arm with the House Republicans. He didn’t….what do we expect? Its the scorpion and the frog….it’s who juan is and his impulse is not in the conservative direction.
We have to make sure that the narrative is that only a true conservative can beat a liberal democrat, period. The Rinos are going to try and blame it on Gov Palin and the “rabid” conservative base. No. Palin, Jindal, Romney are our future and we need to have this fight in the Republican party. Obama will win. They will have full control, and the American people will see what they voted for. NOW IS THE TIME FOR CONSERVATIVES TO BE LOUDER, AND STRONGER. As Juan will go down in the fire, we will raise from the ashes and Juan, Mcgramnesty, et all will be gone. Keep your heads up. Palin/Romney/Jindal….2012…oh, and wouldn’t it be nice to have a hardhittting, articulate conservative for once? God Bless America

texaninfidel on October 12, 2008 at 5:20 PM

It’s too thinly sourced to be taken very seriously, but since our readership revels in the idea of the ‘Cuda being the scrapper to McCain’s squish, I figured you’d dig it.

Oh, thank you, Allah.

I think WE know who wears the pants in this campaign.

HornetSting on October 12, 2008 at 5:34 PM

“Love means never having to say you’re sorry” has met it’s vying merit match:

The worst guilt is to accept an unearned guilt.

…making Christ’s atonement the worst guilt ever.
…judging McCain’s sacrifice to remain with his comrades in arms a POW 5 more years the worst guilt.
…”I am Spartacus” would never occur as the worst guilt of all is to accept an unearned guilt.

maverick muse on October 12, 2008 at 6:08 PM

A lot of people with no children have pets instead, and love them as their own children. That’s understandable.

A lot of parents with large families realize that managing “pets” as well is not an additional responsibility that the parents can manage. If the children do not choose to manage the responsibility, that’s understandable. It’s a choice, whether or not to choose to become responsible for a pet.

Observers projecting their own nasty qualities onto others display themselves in their condemnation. There’s no right to negatively judge the character of busy parents whose lives are full without pets but with raising children and being responsible professionals and honorable citizens.

maverick muse on October 12, 2008 at 6:25 PM

To the McCain campaign:

There’s lots of value in running an ethical campaign. Just don’t invent ethics as you go.

Obama’s 20-year association with Wright at TUCC is clearly a fair topic, and always has been. It highlights Obama’s values and beliefs.

Wright is a racist demagogue who clearly hates America (and then retires to a 93% white neighborhood; apparently he doesn’t appreciate the experience of the drive-bys of P.Diddy’s America).

What did Obama learn from Wright? What are Obama’s values? Clearly, Wright is a legitimate topic.

Ayres and his history, and Obama’s choice, as a 30-something-year-old Harvard Law grad, to associate with Ayres, squander millions of dollars intended for the Chicago public schools on leftist organizations (this looks like malfeasance), and launch his political career from Ayres’ living room, are matters of great public interest. Few of us want the US Treasury to be next.

Wright, Ayres, ACORN, Rezko, Raines, Soros, the Sandlers, and far too many of Obama’s associations are thieves, cheats and self-proclaimed enemies of America and the American people.

Obama might actually be a fine American, but far too many (almost all?) of his friends, associates and supporters are not. All see the Brownshirt tactics, the false-charge-of-upcoming-racist-acts-used-to-prevent-fair-debate-of-relevant-topics, the fraud.

There is no honor in refusing to fight one’s enemies, when one’s enemies are attacking, only shame and infamy. It is a failure to defend one’s country; it allows people like Ayres, Wright, Raines, the Sandlers, to victimize the American public. This is wrong, and very many people know it. Many are showing their frustration publicly and saying so.

The American people need to be told, in clear and uncertain terms, who Obama has spent the last 20+years of his life associating with, who they are and what they believe and do. This June would have been much better to start revealing the truth. There is no reason to wait.

Gov. Palin is correct when she publicly attacks Obama’s past associations. She is doing the righ thing, and any advisor, staffer, pundit, etc. who says differently is wrong.

Exposing Obama’s links to Wright, Ayres, Raines/Fannie Mae/ ACORN needs to happen more and in greater detail. It needs to happen on TV and at campaign speeches.

If there is a plan to finally use Wright, Ayres, ACORN and the Fannie Mae meltdown, now is the time.

Arbalest on October 12, 2008 at 6:26 PM

I wonder, how these “conservatives, who don’t have a dog in the fight” will yelp, when they’re having Socialized Medicine shoved up their tail-end?
franksalterego on October 12, 2008 at 4:21 PM

They’ll blame John McCain to their last breath and take no responsibility for themselves when they could have helped prevent this with their vote. Or at the very least, participated in trashing McCain while so many others were undecided. It’s hard to imagine that one person’s negative vibes can sway someone elses opinion completely. But at least I will know that my conscious is clear, and even though I don’t like McCain all that much, and voted for Romney when the primary came to my state, I didn’t participate in the chorus of negativity when he was counting on us for our support.

We’ll see how this election goes. I’m very curious to see if Obama wins, how much b*tching and moaning here there will be. And if McCain wins, after one year, with him as president, how relieved that it is him and Plain in the whitehouse.

wise_man on October 12, 2008 at 6:33 PM

Anyone in Ohio know where NBC 9 is in your area. They just had a live feed of a Sarah Palin event and the announcers were manking fun of her on the air!

ConservativePartyNow on October 12, 2008 at 6:40 PM

If Oslime-a wins, there is a silver lining. We can run a real conservative in 2012. If McCain wins and he continues with the RINO policies, we are stuck with him until 2016.

Oy vey!

csdeven on October 12, 2008 at 6:52 PM

NO, of course not Shelby.

Everyone knows that hunters eat their pets. They can’t help it. It’s all part of their bloodthirsty culture of death.

When I say “pet”, of course I mean in the way we think of them, not in the way the death cultists do. They view them more as an alternative food source for when a hunt doesn’t fill their freezers with their bloody booty.

Instead of Fido, a dog would likely be known as Pork Chop. As in, the other white meat.

TheCulturalist on October 12, 2008 at 4:09 PM

Dude, are you for real?

God, even the quality of trolls has depreciated so much this election.

Sapwolf on October 12, 2008 at 6:59 PM

Well, it’s debatable whether she is a skank…she did get preggers before wedding.

And PLEASE come up with another shtick! Your “not a baby killer” response to ANY CRITICISM OF YOUR CANDIDATE IS OLD AND BORING. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Shelby,

One thing you have to understand now that you were let in to HA is that we like our trolls IF they can hold their own.

You obviously can’t. You as a troll are a disgrace to HA.

ED,

Please drop Shelby and get a reputable troll, pronto.

You have standards.

Sapwolf on October 12, 2008 at 7:06 PM

wise_man on October 12, 2008 at 6:33 PM

you are still pathetic short-sighted dink.

did conservatives make mccain keep pushing for amnesty even after he said “i get it”

did conservatives make mccain attack big business and favor progressive policies economically?

did conservatives make him call the swiftboat vets “dishonorable”

did conservatives make him support mccain-feingold?

did conservatives make him run a campaign that couldnt stay on message from morning to afternoon?

he made all these mistakes on his own. he has no one to blame put himself.

chasdal on October 12, 2008 at 7:23 PM

You have standards.

Sapwolf on October 12, 2008 at 7:06 PM

“We don’t need no steenkin’ standards!”

platypus on October 12, 2008 at 7:27 PM

Sapwolf on October 12, 2008 at 6:59 PM

Shelby fell for it.

I thought she would be the only one though. Her(?) type is easily baited.

You suprise me though. Especially after your excellent

“Samurai Jack”.

Sapwolf on October 12, 2008 at 3:30 PM

post on another thread.

I don’t post all the time here, I have a very chaotic schedule. However, you and I have posted on several of the same threads today so I would have hoped you would know better than to fall for such an over the top post and pound me with your troll hammer.

I’ve liked your posts so far so…

Stay on target.

TheCulturalist on October 12, 2008 at 7:30 PM

Anyone in Ohio know where NBC 9 is in your area. They just had a live feed of a Sarah Palin event and the announcers were manking fun of her on the air!

ConservativePartyNow on October 12, 2008 at 6:40
PM

It took a little Googling. It appears that she was in St. Clairsville (sp), that is, SE Ohio. It’s Appalachia, an extension of WV. I’m surprised that announcers, whether out of Marietta or, say, Huntingon, WV, would be doing that. Athens (Ohio University) is near there. It’s a college town, though no one is going to mistake it for an Ivy League school.

I suspect comparable criticism of Obama would get a broadcaster fired, but those are the allowances made for a pharaoh–sorry, for some time, I’ve disliked the messiah characterization, even in ridicule. I recently saw tape of Farrakhan chatting Obama up as a messiah; that’s too much for me. Pharaoh it is.

“So let it be written. So let it be done.”

BuckeyeSam on October 12, 2008 at 7:42 PM

Where would they be without people like you engaging in their own ‘operation chaos’ against us.

I hope you are pleased with yourself as much as they are.

wise_man on October 12, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Here’s the reality you worthless troll.

McCain and the GOP are weakened by creatures like you. You may be well intentioned but you work against all that you claim you want to accomplish. The real way ahead is honest dialogue and you simply demand we all pretend the party line is without fault. You, friend, are precisely what is wrong with the GOP. You just need to go away and after McCain loses your credibility is toast.

highhopes on October 12, 2008 at 7:45 PM

Well what do you know, he’s using projection again. I kinda feel sorry for him. Mental illnesses when never properly treated just get worse, high hopes.

wise_man on October 12, 2008 at 8:49 PM

Everyone knows that hunters eat their pets. They can’t help it. It’s all part of their bloodthirsty culture of death.

When I say “pet”, of course I mean in the way we think of them, not in the way the death cultists do. They view them more as an alternative food source for when a hunt doesn’t fill their freezers with their bloody booty.

Instead of Fido, a dog would likely be known as Pork Chop. As in, the other white meat.

TheCulturalist on October 12, 2008 at 4:09 PM

I got your sarcasm and I liked it.

cjs1943 on October 12, 2008 at 8:54 PM

Arbalest 6:26PM They turned on McCain’s Manchurian chip. obama seems to be the culmination of years of deception from the left, and now they’re pulling all the stops for this skank. I agree with your post except for the ‘obama may be a fine American’ part. If you really think about it, that’s not possible because whatever he is, he’s not completely stupid.

cjk on October 12, 2008 at 9:04 PM

cjs1943 on October 12, 2008 at 8:54 PM

Thanks.

There was a little reality thrown in. We did name some of our pigs “Pork Chop” and “Bacon”.

Dad felt it was important that we not be confused as to their ultimate purpose.

TheCulturalist on October 12, 2008 at 9:05 PM

So, anyone read any good books, lately?

trailboss on October 12, 2008 at 9:20 PM

trailboss on October 12, 2008 at 9:20 PM

Does “The Disciplined Trader” by Mark Douglas count? I’m reading it now…

TheCulturalist on October 12, 2008 at 9:25 PM

trailboss on October 12, 2008 at 9:20 PM

The Last Patriot, Brad Thor.

Spirit of 1776 on October 12, 2008 at 9:37 PM

Sarah HAS no future other than a talk show host on Fox … and even that would become boring in about 2 months, just like her political career.

Monkei on October 12, 2008 at 10:06 PM

To clarify my last post from 9:04 ; How could anyone hang around a crowd like obama’s for as long as he has and be a ‘fine American’? You’d have to be deaf, blind, AND stupid. We know he ain’t dumb… at least while the teleprompter is on.

cjk on October 12, 2008 at 10:09 PM

I’m still waiting for the Dem’s October surprise involving pictures of Senate Republicans with tranny prostitutes.

Speedwagon82 on October 12, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Shelby is a girl-fag. Please stop responding to it.

Fortunata on October 12, 2008 at 10:40 PM

This Salter guy wouldn’t know “Honor” if it slapped him in the face. A very confused individual ready to hand our nation over to a collection of radical socialists. He’s a very self-righteous individual in love w/his own wrong opinions.

Sarah “has” her rock-solid, loyal following. Come 11/5/08 she needs to make a hard break w/McCain and the GOP Hierarchy and begin a hostile takeover of the GOP. She’ll need our support. It’ll take all of 4 years to accomplish. Darvin Dowdy

Darvin Dowdy on October 12, 2008 at 10:40 PM

Rush has been ranting for several weeks, that McCain is unlikely to bring the head back to the tribe. Palin and the rest of us need to carry McCain over the finish line.
So what are you waiting for? Stop whining and do something about it. Is this not a conservative value, don’t wait for others, take the lead. Talk to your undecided friends, the uncertain democrat you know regarding Obama. Sit them down at your computer and show them HotAir, when their done here, got to gatewaypundit, then over the powerline then a long session at therealbarackobama.wordpress. Stop asking what John McCain is going to do for you (you sound like a liberal) and do something for your country.

EyesOpen on October 12, 2008 at 10:41 PM

Her supporters think that if the Republican ticket loses on November 4, she should run for president in 2012…

This would only work if she moved to Chicago and became a community organizer.

Mr_Magoo on October 12, 2008 at 11:14 PM

I did not vote for either McCain or Obama in the primaries, and I also will not vote for either of them in the GE.

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 4:30 PM

Who cares.

Mr_Magoo on October 12, 2008 at 11:16 PM

To paraphrase a great Lincoln quote about General Grant during the Civil War, and apply it to Palin, “I can’t spare this woman, she fights!”

GD-it McCain, FIGHT for the free market and our national economy because an Obama win will further cripple it with taxes, spending and regulations!

FIGHT for free speech since an Obama win will lead to the Fairness Doctrine and the death of Talk Radio and conservative blogs and the advancement of intimidation and suppression of our free speech rights!

FIGHT for our national security since an Obama win will mean an accomomdationist globalist agenda that will embolden our adversaries and harm our nation!

FIGHT dangit, fight, enough of this “My Friends” guff and “loss with honor.” The other side has no honor, and honors you not, McCain. They liked you when you were not a threat, and were a thorn in the GOP’s side as the “Maverick.” Now they hate you as they always have, and act on it as they did not until you threatened their power. Step it up, fight for me ’cause I’m not in a position to take it to them and resist them. That’s what YOU are supposed to do with my support. But if you won’t fight for it, the heck with you!!

EasyEight on October 12, 2008 at 11:49 PM

trailboss-

Anyone read any good books lately?

Causacus- Mountain Men and Holy Wars” by Nicolas Griffin, “Creative Minds In Desperate Times” by Webb Garrison, and “Slabs of the Sunburnt West” by Carl Sandburg.

Not in that order.

profitsbeard on October 13, 2008 at 1:41 AM

I wonder, how these “conservatives, who don’t have a dog in the fight” will yelp, when they’re having Socialized Medicine shoved up their tail-end?

franksalterego on October 12, 2008 at 4:21 PM

They’ll be able to steel themselves during their 6-month wait for the procedure.

electric-rascal on October 13, 2008 at 1:41 AM

McCain should just permanently suspend his campaign already.

Cr4sh Dummy on October 13, 2008 at 1:52 AM

Eh… sorry, I messed up the blockquote tag.

electric-rascal on October 13, 2008 at 1:54 AM

Actually, I’m somewhat less than hopeful of a GOP/Palin/Jindal/conservative success in 2012. Why?

If the MSM is so successful in leading sheep to vote for the zero Obummer, there will still be sheep in 4 years that will believe the Democratic mammoth lie that “All of this was leftovers from the Bush administration”/”We didn’t know it was this bad until we got into office”

The sheep will give Barry 4 more years to make perfect his socialist utopia of Amerika, which will take 30 to 50 years to nullify.

“We’re gonna spread happiness,
we’re gonna spread freedom,
Obama’s gonna change it,
Obama’s gonna lead, em.”
“We’re gonna change, it!”
“And rearrange it!”
“We’re gonna change the world.”

electric-rascal on October 13, 2008 at 2:01 AM

Shelby is a girl-fag. Please stop responding to it.

Fortunata on October 12, 2008 at 10:40 PM

Ooooooh, classy Fortunata! That’ll bring voters over to the McCain/Pain ticket!

Some of you really are beyond pathetic in that all you can do is respond with vile comments when someone makes a legit point about your beloved Sarah Pain. Low intelligence on display…

Shelby on October 13, 2008 at 3:41 AM

PalinRomney/Jindal….2012…oh, and wouldn’t it be nice to have a hardhittting, articulate conservative for once? God Bless America

texaninfidel on October 12, 2008 at 5:20 PM

A Romney/Jindal ticket would be awesome and very coherent!

Shelby on October 13, 2008 at 4:06 AM

Shelby on October 12, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Spare us your inability to deal with the facts of life. You want to save seals? Then go get their parents to practice birth control.

csdeven on October 12, 2008 at 4:58 PM

csdeven, I fear for your reasoning abilities. Save baby seals? Where in my post did I say anything about baby seals?! My post was regarding Sarah Pain’s support for a barbaric method of killing wolves. Here it is again to help your understanding:

The TV ads showing the barbaric chasing to exhaustion and shooting of wolves, which Ice-Princess supports?

Go ahead and bury your head in the sand and just write off the votes from Indies (like myself), Repubs and Dems who see that ad and the pics of Barracuda with the bloody moose she killed, and are repulsed by her. These are the only images we have of her with God’s creatures. She seems to have no use for any animal other than to kill it or have it killed. She’s one mean-cold b*itch, and yeah, I know she did not abort either her first child out of wedlock or her special needs baby. Yippee! That’s admirable, but many women, such as myself, are BOTH pro-life and pro-humane treatment of God’s creatures.

Barracuda is nothing special or unique by not having aborted her babies–millions and millions of other women in this world have also chosen life under difficult circumstances. You extreme-righters need to get a clue that there is a lot more to a candidate’s character than whether she pops out kids, has abortions, or does not.

Now, I’ll laugh if suddenly we see a “softer, more appealing” Sarah with a new little doggy in the desperate days before the election! It worked for BJ Clinton, getting Buddy, as a media distraction at the onset of the Monica scandal.

But Ice-Princess would have a hard time convincing the public when we’ve seen no sign of her EVER having had any use for a live animal other than to kill it.

Shelby on October 13, 2008 at 5:00 AM

It worked for BJ Clinton, getting Buddy, as a media distraction at the onset of the Monica scandal.

Well it kinda helped. The libs loved seeing him playing with his new puppy and that gained some sympathy for him, but of course, the Monica BJ thing failed to deflate for years.

Shelby on October 13, 2008 at 5:13 AM

Sarah wants it more than McCain does.

Sure wish he would have told his voters he wasnt going to fight hard in the primaries.

After all “honor” to McCain now is “losing gracefully”.
Okay McCain you are a good loser – satisfied?

winged on October 13, 2008 at 7:40 AM

Shelby on October 13, 2008 at 5:00 AM

First, I understood your complaint to one of general terms. Well, I’m glad to see you support the thinning of baby seals.

But you totally missed the point. Why do you think these wolves are being thinned out? Because there are too many of them and they are decimating other species. They are the top of the food chain and have no natural enemies.

It’s too bad you put more focus on wolves and less on humans. A vote against McCain is a vote for Oslime-a. He happens to be the guy who approves of the practice of leaving babies to die on ash bins.

How utterly humane of you. You must be so proud to be part of a movement to push people away from McCain.

csdeven on October 13, 2008 at 8:54 AM

McCain doesn’t want to piss off his “friends” the Dems. He thinks they will carry him accross the finish line like they did in the primaries so he PANDERS incessantly trying to show he will be the uniter.

He could be right it certainly is a new style but then this is a very different election season.

The old way was way more fun and I would have preferred Romney, a real fighter. We will have Mel Martinez and the RNC to thank if this gambit doesn’t pan out. Now we have to drag the stubborn DONKEY across the finish line most likely kickin and screamin.
Go Sarah!

dhunter on October 13, 2008 at 9:55 AM

So what’s with the latest shift in the pols? I thought McLame was getting trounced, and now it appears the gap is closing? WTF?

Wyznowski on October 13, 2008 at 10:31 AM

This campaign is still winnable if McCain would just grow a pair. Let Palin be Palin and let her bring this thing home.

jonezee on October 13, 2008 at 11:12 AM

So what’s with the latest shift in the pols? I thought McLame was getting trounced, and now it appears the gap is closing? WTF?

Wyznowski on October 13, 2008 at 10:31 AM

There’s an interesting post on HillBuzz about “internals” showing McCain leading in FL, IN, OH, NC, VA, and PA, as of October 10. Here’s the link:

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/page/4/

Republicans and centrist Democrats are joined together on this effort to get the truth out about Obama before the November election. We firmly believe in McCain’s victory and do not believe it hinges on any developments with RICO. The polls, in our opinon, are wrong, and the internal numbers we see coming out of NC, VA, PA, OH, IN and FL show McCain wins in all of those states (there is no mathematical possibility for Obama to win without taking PA, OH, or FL).

H/T Hillbuzz.wordpress.com

I have no idea whether the claims of “HillBuzz” are correct regarding internals–Hillbuzz seems to think there will soon be some action by prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald on a RICO case against ACORN and the Obama campaign for thuggish behavior during the Democrat primaries.

But if the McCain campaign has “internal” (non-public) polling showing they are leading in the six states mentioned above (PA would definitely be a surprise!!!), that might explain their campaign strategy. Palin has been in Florida a lot lately, then went to PA. McCain has been in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Iowa!!! Why is he going there? Is he barking up the wrong tree, or does his campaign know something we don’t know, and is trying to steal an unexpected state from Obama, just in case he loses Colorado? Don’t know for sure, but food for thought.

Besides, the ACORN shenanigans in Ohio are public knowledge, with a judge issuing a restraining order on the Ohio Secretary of State, so McCain might know that some middle-of-the-road Ohioans are turning against Obama over voter fraud.

As for Palin wanting McCain to get tougher, Palin has publicly stated (to Sean Hannity) that she admires the woman who said,

“Now is no time to go wobbly, George!”–Margaret Thatcher.

Steve Z on October 13, 2008 at 11:17 AM

I see good old ABC is back peddleing their bogus polls that are at least 5 to 6 points off from all others. The left wing media is without shame or character. They obviously have the same values system as ACORN.

rplat on October 13, 2008 at 11:22 AM

Everyone here who wants to win needs to contact the RNC and demand a ticket flip: Palin/McCain. Despite what the lamestream media says, our poll numbers would climb.

(I wonder if a ticket flip is legal, since it’s unprecedented.)

ErinF on October 13, 2008 at 11:46 AM

“A Romney/Jindal ticket would be awesome and very coherent!”
Shelby on October 13, 2008

Ok…I only needed Shelby to endorse that ticket before I post anything against it (proof positive of my correct assesment)

Romney should NOT be our candidate in 2012….at least for true conservatives who won’t be shaped by popular opinion and fluffy, get-along GOP main streamers.

Romney went from being a liberal RHINO to a hardened conservative when he decided to run for prez (sound familiar…ahem,.. McCain) These types ALWAYS fold under pressure from our marxist media and career liberal politicians. I just don’t trust anyone with two distinctively different set of ideals depending on what they are running for.

My list to head the ticket includes Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich for the time being.

Rudy Gulliani wouldn’t be bad as VP only because he can REALLY kick some a** on the trail.

Goodeye_Closed on October 13, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Rudy Gulliani wouldn’t be bad as VP only because he can REALLY kick some a** on the trail.

Goodeye_Closed on October 13, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Is being pro-life important to you?! If so, why would you support Gulliani whom is pro-choice and dresses up in woman’s clothes and has martial affairs?

Romney is pro-life, does not wear girly clothes and can certainly kick some a** cuz he knows what he’s talking about!

Are you a bigot?

Shelby on October 13, 2008 at 6:05 PM

KIDS ONLINE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION ALERT:
The Nickelodeon Channel is extremely liberal, and right now they’re running their “kids pick the president” online election for kids to “have their say”. Anyone can vote. Anybody here interested in throwing this toward McCain/Palin, feel free:

http://www.nick.com/kpp/

(The last two presidential elections, they did this, and of course Gore and Kerry both won in landslides.)

ErinF on October 13, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Shelby on October 13, 2008 at 5:00 AM
First, I understood your complaint to one of general terms. Well, I’m glad to see you support the thinning of baby seals.

But you totally missed the point. Why do you think these wolves are being thinned out? Because there are too many of them and they are decimating other species. They are the top of the food chain and have no natural enemies.

It’s too bad you put more focus on wolves and less on humans. A vote against McCain is a vote for Oslime-a. He happens to be the guy who approves of the practice of leaving babies to die on ash bins.

How utterly humane of you. You must be so proud to be part of a movement to push people away from McCain.

csdeven on October 13, 2008 at 8:54 AM

Let me try once again to help you understand, okay?! High numbers of voters, Indies, Repubs and Dems are moving over to Obama because of Sarah Pain! Got it yet????!!!! The public does NOT support the cruelty she endorses by hunting down wolves to exhaustion by low-flying planes and riddling them with bullets! THIS IS NOT A HUMANE WAY TO KILL WOLVES AND BARRACUDA SUPPORTS IT! Regardless if there are too many of them [can’t let them be free preying on their natural diet because this takes away from tourists being able to kill the caribou instead!], this is NOT THE HUMANE WAY TO DEAL WITH IT! Polar Queen polls in the net minus 20s. If you folks had brains you would care about this!

My conscience is completely clear because I did not, and will not, in the GE vote for any of these losers. Those of you who did, well do a moral conscience check of your own!

And there will be no babies left on shelves to die BECAUSE CONGRESS PASSED A BILL AGAINST THIS YEARS AGO, and Obama, not being that stupid, has surely learned his lesson that having this horrible baggage did not and will not help him win votes!

Now if only the extreme-righties could learn needed lessons!

Shelby on October 13, 2008 at 6:27 PM

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