McCain booed after telling crowd to be respectful to Obama
posted at 8:25 pm on October 10, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The gloves are off on.
But then something weird happens: He acknowledges the “energy” people have been showing at rallies, and how glad he is that people are excited. But, he says, “I respect Sen. Obama and his accomplishments.” People booed at the mention of his name. McCain, visibly angry, stopped them: “I want EVERYONE to be respectful, and lets make sure we are.”…
And then later, again, someone dangled a great big piece of low-hanging fruit in front of McCain: “I’m scared to bring up my child in a world where Barack Obama is president.”
McCain replies, “Well, I don’t want him to be president, either. I wouldn’t be running if I did. But,” and he pauses for emphasis, “you don’t have to be scared to have him be President of the United States.” A round of boos…
UPDATE: Indeed, he just snatched the microphone out the hands of a woman who began her question with, “I’m scared of Barack Obama… he’s an Arab terrorist…”
“No, no ma’am,” he interrupted. “He’s a decent family man with whom I happen to have some disagreements.”
He did the right thing, needless to say, but I’m not sure how this squares with Palin telling people at fundraisers how many supporters are urging her to take the gloves off. It all goes back to this morning’s post: McCain wants to win the election but doesn’t seem to have the stomach to get truly nasty, so he compromises by bringing up Ayers but not pressing the issue too much. Gotta commit one way or another, champ. As it is, it’s a sad, strange situation to have one candidate forced to stick up for the other candidate in front of his own audience.
Now that he’s defended Obama, I think it gives The One cover to call him out on it at the debate on Wednesday in the guise of, “John, I appreciate you trying to set the record straight on my behalf, but this climate you’ve created…” etc etc. In the meantime, here’s the only video I’ve been able to find thus far. Shuster aired the footage where the woman in the audience calls Obama an Arab a few minutes ago, and McCain really did almost yank the mike out of her hand before she could get going and make it worse. It’s not up on MSNBC’s website yet, but if I see it somewhere, I’ll update. Click the image to watch.
Update: Here’s the CNN video via TPM. Best I can do on short notice.
Update: Depending on how much press coverage this incident gets this weekend, I wonder if he won’t decide to abandon the Ayers stuff altogether.
Update: Cox’s transcript is wrong, incidentally. The questioner doesn’t call Obama a terrorist.
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I said it before during the primaries, McCain’s entire operation in exile was funded by Soros. Soros has bought both sides of this pathetic sham of a race.
I am not surprised at anything McCain does or fails to do. Just sad that we got saddled with such a loser of a candidate. I think I would prefer Hillary to McCain at this point = (
America1st on October 10, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Bad news.. the tin foil for your hat has just gone up 24%, due to a miners’ strike in Bolivia..
TexasJew on October 10, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Dude!!!
I’m a McCain/Palin supporter. Did you not notice the small ‘l’. Big ‘L’ signifies LIBERTARIAN PARTY MEMBER! I am a Republican. I am the Publisher of the Libertarian Republican blog.
I AM ABOUT AS DIEHARD SUPPORTER OF SARAH PALIN AS YOU CAN FIND ANYWHERES. In fact I was one of the top 3 or 4 blogs pushing her for VP for the past two years.
I’m not talking about the Libertarian Party here, I’m talking about libertarian Republicans.
Again, you conservatives are blowing it with your wimpiness on Ayers, Obama’s trip to Pakistan in 1982, and most especially his ties to Raila Odinga.
If you all don’t have the balls to ram this home on these fronts, than stand aside and let us libertarian REPUBLICANS do it for you and the Republican Party.
ericdondero on October 10, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Yep…I’m guessing a Paulbot Liber(al)terian to be honest with you…just trolling by…
AUINSC on October 10, 2008 at 11:02 PM
BINGO. Obama’s “say that to my face, old man!” attitude forces McCain to either step up or bow out.
And if McCain won’t attack so vulnerable an opponent as Obama (it’s sad to think that W would have dismantled Obama), McCain neither can nor should win in November.
The mob does not respect the weak. It sniffs them out and consumes them. And McCain has appeared very weak in the last fortnight.
Harpazo on October 10, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Thank you for your kind reply. ;o)
That is exactly what I had in mind when I wrote my post. There are those who are still undecided and, as my mother always said, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Sarah is doing just fine as the pitbull, and she does it with charm, and a smile. Not many can get away with that. And, it’s for dang sure McCain can’t!
Personally, I would love to see McCain rip Obama a new one. But, there are many undecideds who would be turned off by that.
As far as his comments about Obama, I think he was simply being civil, and nothing more. He knows what a nightmare Obama would be for this country.
kakypat on October 10, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Answer: Because our side has to pay the bills and clean up the mess. :)
FloatingRock on October 10, 2008 at 11:02 PM
TexasJew on October 10, 2008 at 10:58 PM
OU Vs Texas
Who wins and by how much?
kangjie on October 10, 2008 at 11:03 PM
In the last debate McCain seemed to be playing by the rules even when they annoyed him. Obama, OTOH, tried to dance around the ‘no rebuttal’ rule and just generally act as though those pre-arranged rules weren’t there. Are we getting punked? I think so. Last chance debate coming up sweetie…
Fortunata on October 10, 2008 at 11:03 PM
The only hope left for the message to continue to get play will be left to the 527’s.
csdeven on October 10, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Who gives a SH*T! We are BAILING OUT PEOPLE THAT SHOULDN’T EVEN BE HERE! THAT IS THE POINT! THESE PEOPLE THAT GOT LOANS FOR HOMES THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER PURCHASED ARE NOT ‘VICTIMS’, THEY ARE IDIOTS!
HornetSting on October 10, 2008 at 11:06 PM
We *are* the good guys…grit teeth, rinse and repeat x100
Fortunata on October 10, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Good, the we can expect you guys to give us a good 8 point jump in the polls…against the ‘Arab Terrorist’ Obama-Bin-Laden? Seriously, I hate to be ungrateful, but some friends we can do without…if you start going off about Obama’s membership in the Tri-lateral commision, the Bilderburgers and the Bavarian Illuminatii, are we supposed to jump with joy at our new found, albiet not so stable, friends who are going to save us from a massive defeat? Sorry, we’ve been there (see Ron Paul).
AUINSC on October 10, 2008 at 11:07 PM
TexasJew on October 10, 2008 at 10:58 PM
OU Vs Texas
Who wins and by how much?
kangjie on October 10, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Well, I’m not a very good UTexas grad, since I’ll have to say that looks like OU by a nose.
Shame on me…
TexasJew on October 10, 2008 at 11:07 PM
What about the other 8756 minutes in a year – who do you blame for that? Space invaders?
Bradky on October 10, 2008 at 11:08 PM
I blame you. Happy?
HornetSting on October 10, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Fox just had a great ad (during commercial, not commenting on) that named all the big players: Dodd, Franks, etc and tied them to Obama in relationship to economic crisis. Great 527 ad. I thought it was a McCain ad, actually, at first because of the narrator – which would have been a suprise, so I did a double-take, but it was 527.
Spirit of 1776 on October 10, 2008 at 11:09 PM
You can also thank Huckabee’s massive ego for that. He never had a shot in the general (who’s seriously gonna vote for a chunky Arkansan named Huckleberry over the 1st black/female POTUS?), but rather than be honorable about things and let the best man/men win, he tooled his entire campaign to take down Romney (rather than win).
Look, I didn’t like Romney (seriously), but Huckabee was just flagrant in pushing the religion aspect of “I’m the Christian candidate, so all Christians need to not vote for the Mormon cult guy!” As a conservative Christian that offended the hell out of me.
Sans Huckster, McCain wins NH and little else. Romney wins the south and midwest with the family values vote and economic vote.
Harpazo on October 10, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Here’s an idea: run a candidate on the Republican ticket during the primaries. Then you get the wheel.
Spirit of 1776 on October 10, 2008 at 11:10 PM
What about the other 8756 minutes in a year – who do you blame for that? Space invaders?
Bradky on October 10, 2008 at 11:08 PM
You’re off by 516,840 minutes.
And yes, it WAS Space Invaders that caused this.
Also Pong and Galaga..
TexasJew on October 10, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Look, I want McCain to fight, but Obama is not an Arab; he is an American leftist. What do we want McCain to say?
sophiesmom on October 10, 2008 at 11:12 PM
I love it when people have to admit they are wrong. Thanks for that – next time do the math before you go screaming into the night about “the illegals” — four minutes my friend 4 minutes.
Bradky on October 10, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Sen.McCain welcome to the real world were men are men and women are women and are not afraid to speak there mind and tell the truth.We people out here are not a bunch of washington panzzzzzs.PS Gov.Palin is from the real world ask her about it.
thmcbb on October 10, 2008 at 11:12 PM
There is video of 0bama , speaking through a bullhorn at 0dinga rallys, etc.
Here is just one quick link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1P_P8lBCsE
LegendHasIt on October 10, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Ron Paul is an idiot. I know. I worked for the guy for 12 years, finally resigning over his failings to back the Iraq War.
No Bilderberger conspiracy theories here. That’s for the Paul-tards, and other assorted Bircher-type Geeks.
There’s nothing conspiratorial at all about Obama’s ties to Raila Odinga. It’s a known fact. There’s photos of his trip and documentation.
My argument is that I cannot understand for the life of me, why you conservatives are so giddy about Bill Ayers, but not even talking about Odinga?
Death toll from Ayers? 3
Death toll from Raila Odinga? 3,000 (at least)
ericdondero on October 10, 2008 at 11:13 PM
yeah, but they’re all foreign /sarc
Fortunata on October 10, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Yes you are correct – 8760 hours = 525600 minutes — so the illegals caused a percent of the problem that is measured in 10 to the -8 power..
Bradky on October 10, 2008 at 11:15 PM
I think the fire in McCain’s belly has turned out to be just some bad Mexican food he ate. And speaking of the Immigration Reform Bill, this all seem reminiscent of his so-called leadership on that effort. Too bad he won’t get the message until AFTER Nov 4th.
May God help us.
c3ichief on October 10, 2008 at 11:16 PM
You are a tool.
I blame the democrats for forcing banks to loan to low income buyers/minorities because of political correctness/socialism. I blame the democrats for not allowing any oversight of freddie and fannie. I also blame ACORN for the strong arming of banks to loan money. Thats where the rest of the money has gone. To bail out those who do not deserve that. If you cannot see that, too bad for you.
I’ll give you a number 53 BILLION. That is how much we are paying to house/clothe/feed other country’s uneducated/criminals/poor.
HornetSting on October 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Who or what is an “undecided” or “moderate”? Please someone enlighten me; I simply don’t believe there are people who are undecided. It seems impossible to me- these candidates are day and night. Everytime I see one of Frank Duntz’s idiotic focus groups, (undecideds, my ass) I think: “Here are people who just want to be on TV, have a little something fun to occupy themselves with”. It would be different if it were say, Obama vs. Hillary. They were almost identical on policy and had about the same degree of negatives- not to mention an equally sleazy grasp on truth. McCain and Obama are miles apart and if there really are people who can’t decide, they might be to stupid to be allowed to vote!
anniekc on October 10, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Probably, but Stan Jones is just so much more colorful, if you know what I’m sayin’. : )
capitalist piglet on October 10, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Best that you google – five million mortgages – might save some time with the figuring on the illegals contribution to the crisis.
News2Use on October 10, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Seems that Bradky is a race peddler, whining about our discussion of minorities and the bailout. The PC police FORCED banks to loan money to those that could not pay it back. Don’t care if they are purple, green, blue, whatever. I just have a problem with MORE OF MY MONEY GOING TO ILLEGAL ALIENS. I’M DONE PAYING FOR PEOPLE THAT SHOULDN’T BE HERE WHEN WE ARE IN AN ECONOMIC CRISIS.
HornetSting on October 10, 2008 at 11:25 PM
The only exception would be if, and only if, he really had a silver bullet. It has to be obvious, and probably has to be based on something out of Obama’s own mouth – some transparently ridiculous doubletalk about his relationship with Ayers or ACORN, or about FM & FM, for instance, something that McCain couldn’t help but laugh at along with the rest of the country. You could see McCain searching and reaching for one at the townhall debate, but you never know where one might emerge.
If McCain could stay on offense enough to get Obama to repeat one of his laughable dodges with the “entire country” watching, it might not even have to be a huge “gaffe” on its own terms. It just has to light a fire in the residual desire of 50% + 1 of the electorate in a few battleground states NOT to vote for him.
To get there and for it to matter, barring a military flare-up or some other new unexpected EVENT, McCain still needs to fight the economy at least to a near draw, and keep his bridges to the “middle” open. Being defined as the candidate of enraged yahoos isn’t going to do it.
CK MacLeod on October 10, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Like Rush said in order to win we along with the help of Gov. Palin will have to drag McCain kicking and screaming across the finish line and deal with him later.
thmcbb on October 10, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Wel, I’m certainly not a moderate, but I’m an undecided. Not about 0bama, I wouldn’t vote for him if his cousin 0dinga’s panga (machete) was at my throat.
But I am unable to decide if I can overcome, literally, my 33 years of history and understanding of McCain in order to make my mark on the ballot next to his name.
There is more to it than that, that has to do with what is best for America in the LONG term, but I get tired of having to explain the details of that.
LegendHasIt on October 10, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Hey I’ve got an idea — “deal with him” now and put Rush at the top of the ticket — am sure you might get 10% of the vote…/sarc off
Bradky on October 10, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Hey let’s all have a laugh, it isn’t over yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJrBhtnQ42U
Robyn S on October 10, 2008 at 11:30 PM
You must be a political junkie – or politically engaged, anyway. I’ll give you an example of someone who is still “undecided” or “moderate.”
A friend of mine was just telling me about his Democratic-leaning socially conservative mother, a retiree, who gets virtually all of her news from the major networks. (If she watches cable, it’s for sports.) She’s seen enough of Obama to think he talks a lot without saying anything, but she thinks Bush is a knucklehead, McCain doesn’t send her, and the economy has her ready to vote Democrat just like a lot of uncommitted people who associate Democrats with the party that cares about “little people” during hard times.
Just yesterday was the first time she ever heard about “that terrorist guy.” She learned about him from ABC. She’s now leaning McCain.
There are millions of people like her – good patriotic, pragmatic Americans, especially older ones, who vote out of a sense of duty, but don’t care much about politics until there’s either a crisis or an election. They don’t two years to make a decision. They don’t even try to make a decision until there’s a decision to be made.
CK MacLeod on October 10, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Somebody pointed out in another thread that 5 million mortgages for illegal aliens times $100,000.00 is $500,000,000,000.00
FloatingRock on October 10, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Obama is not “campaigning” for Odinga in that video. After Obama left town, Odinga exploited the situation and claimed that Obama had endorsed him…
I don’t have time to watch all those videos as I have an early morning wake up call. I would just caution you to carefully review the evidence that Obama campaigned for him.
Indeed, here’s a great lesson (humorously done) which shows how easy it is to smear someone with innuendo.
Buy Danish on October 10, 2008 at 11:35 PM
You are so transparent it is laughable. 4 minutes and it is a grand conspiracy of the first order. Did you use to be a truther before you joined the “I hate homeowners who defaulted” bandwagon.
Bradky on October 10, 2008 at 11:35 PM
In thinking about this, I may have stumbled on the reason this sort of thing out of McCain is so annoying – at least to me (though I do understand what he was trying to do):
I spent the better part of this day defending John McCain on YouTube, from allegations about Keating. I was typing as fast as I could type, confronting every person who was spreading false information.
I spent another part of the day on YouTube, trying to sound the alarm about Obama – his affiliation with ACORN, the socialist New Party, the endorsement of the CPUSA, his long association with Bill Ayers, his meddling in the Kenyan elections – everything.
So here I am (like all of you, I’m sure), going to the mat for this guy (and my country, certainly), putting up with scorn but battling it out anyway, worrying, caring, sending money…and in return, the hand I’ve extended to help John McCain gets swatted away. If Barack Obama is the decent and good man John McCain SAYS he is, I am wasting my time. There’s nothing to fear! And if I need not fear him as president, why am I working so hard to defeat him? If John McCain thinks I’m wrong about Obama, this is one hell of a time to let me know that.
And that’s why it’s so annoying. Because I, like a lot of you, have put quite a bit of effort into being engaged in this fight, only to have him give his praise to Obama in the end.
I know why he did this – I just wish he had done it in a way that would have acknowledged the legitimacy of our concerns. No, Obama isn’t an Arab terrorist, but his campaign just attended a meeting in September with representatives of Hamas and Hezbollah. Isn’t that close enough to cause us to worry? If I’m afraid of his presidency and McCain isn’t, which one of us is wrong?
But I digress. Just felt like tossing that out there, in case anyone else was thinking the same thing.
I’m not giving up. I just wish my candidate didn’t expect us to do so much of the heavy lifting, while turning his back on our efforts when he’s caught in a situation like this. Don’t lie to us about Obama, Senator McCain. Is that too much to ask?
capitalist piglet on October 10, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Interesting perspective. I wouldn’t associate with someone responsible for killing one person let alone 3003+.
Oink on October 10, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Because it is so much tilting at windmills by now (even if it is true)…it is obvious at this point that Ayers (who at least some in the media at least admit might have been a ‘theoretical’ problem for Obama) has no traction…even if Obama had killed 3000 people himself, it wouldn’t matter at this point. It has nothing to do with his lack of morals or highly questionable associations…calling him an ‘Arab Terrorist’ only makes matters worse…it’s a false flag, intentional or not. It makes any Republican who buys into it look like a nut job…when the far more direct issues about Obama go unaddressed…do you know how long it would take…assuming anyone in the MSM was even interested in even looking into it(which they most emphatically are not)…to even get a thourough investigation concluded…2050 at the outside, and you can bet it would be inconclusive…yet right in front of us, we already have all the information we need to realize he would make Jimmy Carter look like Ronald Regan. But, most Americans these days have the attention span of a gnat…so, no…none of it will make any difference in this election. And McCain is trying as hard as he can to make him self loved by the very people who hate him the most…so he’s toast…and so are we for the time being. And even he was at least smart enough to realize that this ladies question was a poison pill…sadly, after correctly dodging the noose, he strung himself up with out any help at all…
AUINSC on October 10, 2008 at 11:38 PM
So now they illegals are responsible for 70% of the failed mortgages?
Bradky on October 10, 2008 at 11:39 PM
After the last debate I sadly was convinced Mccain neither had the will nor ability to win this thing. After all the rallying up for the debate to show up and just punk out with a little smirking anti-American socialist prick Obama starring him down. I was embarrassed that Mccain was even representing me.
This today just drives home that point. Mccain and his bipartisan BS. NO! Mr Mccain Anti-American Socialist do NOT have “good intentions” for America. For gods sake just go get Obama’s book Sins of My Father, hell buy the narrated version and open your damm eyes, get pissed, fight, show me you are not broken you….
We are lost, Mccain is a mark put up to lose. Bush has nationalized the 1st and 2nd largest US mortgages holders, the largest US Insurance agency, and is now talking about banks, even whispering about car industries. Britain and Iceland have outright nationalized their banks with the rest of the EU joining in. We are witnessing the long dreamed world socialist revolution and Obama is not even sworn in yet.
Hate to sound like a tin hat, but it is getting hard for myself to deny that we have been sold out. I am pissed scared and f*ckin pissed. Congrats to the 60-70’s peace-love-&-happiness gen, you managed to destroy the greatest nation to ever walk earth in just one generation. M-F-krs
C-Low on October 10, 2008 at 11:40 PM
PS – on my friend’s socially conservative mother – I think it’s safe to say that the last thing that would have her voting for McCain is the impression that he was the fire-breathing leader of a bunch of crazed weirdos looking for a fight. She really doesn’t want politics to be any more important in her life. Though I don’t share her attitude, I respect it, and in fact consider it very American and conservative in a good way.
CK MacLeod on October 10, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Interesting perspective. I wouldn’t associate with someone responsible for killing one person let alone 3003+.
Oink on October 10, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Well, no hugs from Ted Kennedy for you!
TexasJew on October 10, 2008 at 11:42 PM
You know, I’m sure we all spend lots of time defending McCain and the party and I agree that we’ve had LOTS of heavy lifting to do. It’s not been easy.
But we spend lots of time typing. We are battling the other side and it seems that those who type in opposition to McCain are dyed-in-the-wool Obama supporters and we will NEVER win them over. NEVER.EVER. We need to (should have done) take our message, passion and emotion to the street.
I wish that someone would organize a grass-roots effort to do SOMETHING constructive. We should take the conservative message to undecideds and show them we’re not a bunch of stuffy people. Well, at least I’m not stuffy.
What can we do?
Oink on October 10, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Wed. night in penn. Cindy McCain said Obama is endangering her sons life in Iraq.Will McCain now jerk the mike away from his wife and tell her she must respect Obama??
thmcbb on October 10, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Somebody pointed out in another thread that 5 million mortgages for illegal aliens times $100,000.00 is $500,000,000,000.00
FloatingRock on October 10, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Half a trillion dollars?
That’s a lot of lettuce, even for “G-d’s Children”.
TexasJew on October 10, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Thanks for you efforts, but that’s NOT heavy lifting. Comment threads on political blogs or YouTube were important are not doing to determine the election. One kind of heavy lifting is putting in 18-hour days, day after day, with the world and history on your shoulders, millions of people screaming at you, and no shortage of lunatics who’d like to take you out permanently.
CK MacLeod on October 10, 2008 at 11:45 PM
What a stupid woman in that last clip.
Tzetzes on October 10, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Bradky,
http://nwrepublican.blogspot.com/2008/10/hud-says-illegal-aliens-hold-5-million.html
In the spirit of John McCain, I certainly do not assign any negative attribution or feelings towards the illegal aliens who took out all of these mortgages that contributed to our financial meltdown. I am sure they are very honorable, good, hard working families. I think it is only “neighborly” that we pay for the homes they had to walk out on.
Star20 on October 10, 2008 at 11:46 PM
I really like Cindy McCain (not because of your referenced comment). I honestly think if she had the press that Michelle has had, and some of that is voluntary of course, that McCain would gain 2-3%
Spirit of 1776 on October 10, 2008 at 11:46 PM
No, just someone who pays their bills and practices personal responsibility.
And you, you are so transparent. Work for La Raza?
HornetSting on October 10, 2008 at 11:46 PM
tHink these people could be plants in the audience? Questions are just a little bold I think to be from one of the regular folks.
Bullhead on October 10, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Wed. night in penn. Cindy McCain said Obama is endangering her sons life in Iraq.Will McCain now jerk the mike away from his wife and tell her she must respect Obama??
thmcbb on October 10, 2008 at 11:44 PM
He’d wind up living in a Fanny Mae repo house if he tried to do that..
TexasJew on October 10, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Dude. That means somewhere between 17-42% of illegals have fraudulent mortgages! Depending on whether you buy the 12 or 30 million illegals number. That’s incredible. In the shadows, my eye.
Spirit of 1776 on October 10, 2008 at 11:49 PM
It’s time for Palin to go solo. At least she has a bright future ahead of her in the GOP. McCain will only tarnish her at this point.
He’s as done as Bob Dole was at this time in his campaign in 96. McCain needs to resign his senate seat also while he’s at it. Time for JD Hayworth to step up.
roninacreage on October 10, 2008 at 11:49 PM
I didn’t say that, but have you seen this?
FloatingRock on October 10, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Another false flag is the McCainiacs trying to make this merely a discussion about the Democrat plant, (or just basic run of the mill loon) “0bama’s an Arab”, rather than the much more telling
” comment to a man with genuine concerns.
Most of us agree that he didn’t do too badly with the plant/loon.
But in his answer to the man about the supreme court, McCain, in effect, gave a more enthusiastic endorsement (and useful sound bite) of 0bama than Bill and Hillary Clinton have given.
LegendHasIt on October 10, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Check out MichelleMalkin.com. She had something about this when we bailed them out the first time during the summer, $300 billion ring a bell? Something like 25-40% mortgages may have been given to illegal aliens. Don’t know about you, but tired of carrying the water for another country’s problem.
HornetSting on October 10, 2008 at 11:52 PM
I understand fully what he meant by heavy lifting. IMO it’s all about having to defend conservatism, our value system, and defending a somewhat flawed candidate. That IS heavy lifting.
Oink on October 10, 2008 at 11:52 PM
And in my state you can’t buy an old single-wide trailer on a small, unremarkable lot for $100,000.00, but we do have a lot of illegal aliens around here.
FloatingRock on October 10, 2008 at 11:53 PM
It feels like 1964 again. But without a coherent conservative for a candidate.
Or an energy policy. Or a patriotic immigration policy. Or a sound fiscal policy.
Maybe it’s like nothing we have seen before…
So, if decent people get angry at the entire stupidity and set of treasonous collusions that caused this oncoming disaster, I say: good.
TexasJew on October 10, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Well, you’re right – I overstated that. What we do is not “heavy lifting”. I spend a lot of time (hours and hours every day) defending him and advocating for him, which is pretty much all I can do (I live in a solid blue state), I send him money – I guess what I should have said is that I am doing all I can, and I spend a lot of time doing it.
When he basically tells me that the reason I’m doing it is based on a false premise, it’s a little discouraging.
I probably should just have said that.
capitalist piglet on October 10, 2008 at 11:54 PM
It seems that I have heard this song and dance from John McCain before. When conservatives were told to shut up and sit down. We are angry. Hear our roar.
HornetSting on October 10, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Excellent posts CK. McCain may need to stop taking questions straight out of the crowd…I’m sure the aides could pass out notecards at random and select the best submitted questions or something.
Lots of people here yesterday loved that old guy that ranted about SOCIALISTS and being MAD, REALLY MAD! More people are put off by that kind of stuff than brought into the fold.
funky chicken on October 10, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Hi, Oink. I like your screen name. Are we related? ; )(I’m female, btw.)
I guess my point was really that I’m very much engaged in the campaign, inasmuch as I am doing everything I can, and doing it every day, all day – and spending more money than I probably should on it. I didn’t mean to make it sound as though I think I’m working harder than McCain is – that isn’t really what I intended to say. I just don’t like investing my heart and soul in someone who is going to tell me that the reason I’m doing it has no basis in reality.
capitalist piglet on October 10, 2008 at 11:58 PM
The president of kenya, Odinga’s opponent, complained that Barack Hussein Obama was a Odinga Stooge attempting to influence the election.
SaintOlaf on October 10, 2008 at 11:59 PM
That guy just voiced what many of us are feeling. Good for him.
HornetSting on October 10, 2008 at 11:59 PM
It’s probably a lot easier to walk out on a home when you don’t have to worry about your credit rating and can just steal another SS# if you decide to buy a new, nicer home.
FloatingRock on October 11, 2008 at 12:00 AM
I wish I knew.
capitalist piglet on October 11, 2008 at 12:02 AM
I’ll be honest. I was numb to the numbers. I had heard them, I actually criticized MM in a couple posts she did here when she said ’suck it up’ (early this, or late last year) and I was trying to point out that Tancredo had shown there were a ton of illegal procedures going on top to bottom to extend loans to illegals immigrants. And can’t just ’suck it up’ when rule of law is being violated. Anyway, what I’m trying to say is that I had seen the aggregate numbers before, but I never broke them down into percentage until just now. I’m a little stunned to be honest. That’s a ton of fraud.
Spirit of 1776 on October 11, 2008 at 12:05 AM
(forgot to add)…at a lower price.
FloatingRock on October 11, 2008 at 12:05 AM
What can we do?
Oink on October 10, 2008 at 11:44 PM
I wish I knew.
capitalist piglet on October 11, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Re-read Milton Friedman, Hayek, von Mises and “Atlas Shrugged”. It’s all in there… eternal truths, you know..
TexasJew on October 11, 2008 at 12:07 AM
The bottom could fall out of the McCain campaign. We may be dangerously close to that. And if that happens, Bob Barr will gain a great deal of support overnight. His numbers are already up again in the 3 to 4% range. He had been down to 1% weeks ago. Over the summer he was in the 5 to 6% range.
ericdondero on October 11, 2008 at 12:11 AM
More like > 250 billion tons of fraud. :)
FloatingRock on October 11, 2008 at 12:11 AM
I think i will go to mexico sneak back into the usa steal a SS# get a fake green card buy a new house 2 or 3 times a year get a credit card with out any ID from bank of america and live the good life America what a country!!
thmcbb on October 11, 2008 at 12:12 AM
Hmm… You can’t be Ellis Wyatt; wrong state.
But when it all goes down, are you going to light off a Torch anyway?
Can you stop off here on your way to Galt’s Gulch and pick me up?
Please?
LegendHasIt on October 11, 2008 at 12:12 AM
What can we do?
Perhaps look to the Libertarian Party? They’re on the ballot in 46 states. And they’re not nearly as nutty as they used to be. They’ve mainstreamed the Party significantly, so much so in fact, that they’ve had a minor inter-Party rebellion in recent months, all the lefty lunatic Libertarians bolted.
ericdondero on October 11, 2008 at 12:13 AM
Oops: 250 million tons of fraud.
FloatingRock on October 11, 2008 at 12:13 AM
Which will be a gain of approximately squat for America.
Yay.
capitalist piglet on October 11, 2008 at 12:13 AM
Capitalist Piglet, au contraire.
Barr gains 5% in the polls, and the media and the Democrats will not be able to ignore that. They’ll be forced to confront a hardcore limited government constituency in their midst.
Plus, it will embolden the Libertarian Party. They’re members will get psyched up and even more motivated to fight back against the coming Socialism of Obama.
I’m still hoping for a McCain/Palin win. But barring that, I think the best outcome for us, would be for Barr/Root to get 3 to 5 million votes.
ericdondero on October 11, 2008 at 12:17 AM
Agreed. My husband voted for Perot. Got us Bubba. And Hillary.
HornetSting on October 11, 2008 at 12:17 AM
Perhaps look to the Libertarian Party? They’re on the ballot in 46 states. And they’re not nearly as nutty as they used to be. They’ve mainstreamed the Party significantly, so much so in fact, that they’ve had a minor inter-Party rebellion in recent months, all the lefty lunatic Libertarians bolted.
ericdondero on October 11, 2008 at 12:13 AM
Oy. That whole “third party” meme. Thanks to Ross Perot, that midget scumbag zillionaire who was on a personal vendetta against Papa Bush, we had 8 years of Clinton.
TexasJew on October 11, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Eric, I’m sorry. The LP is not the answer. I realize your intentions are good, but 5% in the polls isn’t going to intimidate anybody.
capitalist piglet on October 11, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Agreed. My husband voted for Perot. Got us Bubba. And Hillary.
HornetSting on October 11, 2008 at 12:17 AM
Yeah, thanks to Perot, we got, besides the Clintons forever, blue dresses, pubic hairs on Coke cans, and intimate details from fat neurotic post-adolesescent Jewish whores, a better understanding of the difference between potato chips and computer chips.
Made this a better country, for sure..
TexasJew on October 11, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Don’t forget cigars….
HornetSting on October 11, 2008 at 12:26 AM
Spirit of 1776 on October 10, 2008 at 11:09 PM
If it named names, you should have known it wasn’t McCain.
He is the biggest loser, next to Bob Dole, that the GOP has put up in a long time. He can’t bring himself to say anything bad about his good friends, the liberal Dems, because then he wouldn’t be able to reach across the aisle. Bluuuuuuckkkkk!
If he doesn’t have the will to attack Obama Husein, how will he handle Iran? We are doomed!
flytier on October 11, 2008 at 12:27 AM
theres always the one f*ucking piece of shit old republican who says
“oooh hes an arab’
fcking moron go get a life you dumb old fcuk!
do us SMART N DURUNK CONSRVATIVES A FAVOR AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH!
IT HAS NOTHIN TO DO WITH ARAB-NESS, BUT ABOUTH HOW MUCH OF A FUCKIN LIBERAL HE IS YOU DUMB OLD WHIT FCUK!
blatantblue on October 11, 2008 at 12:27 AM
IT HAS NOTHIN TO DO WITH ARAB-NESS, BUT ABOUTH HOW MUCH OF A FUCKIN LIBERAL HE IS YOU DUMB OLD WHIT FCUK!
blatantblue on October 11, 2008 at 12:27 AM
Did you mix your Boones Farm with the cleaning fluid again?
TexasJew on October 11, 2008 at 12:30 AM
He’s a decent family man who is lying about AYers, lying about Acorn and hiding Rashidi in the closet til election day. BARFBAG
clnurnberg on October 11, 2008 at 12:34 AM
I think it’s all lost now
clnurnberg on October 11, 2008 at 12:35 AM
Would have never guessed that from your post.
HornetSting on October 11, 2008 at 12:36 AM
You attack their ideas, not their humanity.
The problem isn’t John McCain. The problem is conservatives who are stupid savages.
barry norris on October 11, 2008 at 12:48 AM
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