Connecticut Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage
posted at 2:05 pm on October 10, 2008 by Allahpundit
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A done deal, and given Connecticut’s deep blue electorate, one not likely to be overridden by amendment.
Probably good for McCain, though.
The Supreme Court released its historic ruling at 11:30 a.m. Citing the equal protection clause of the state constitution, the justices ruled that civil unions were discriminatory and that the state’s “understanding of marriage must yield to a more contemporary appreciation of the rights entitled to constitutional protection.”…
In a statement released minutes after the decision was announced, Gov. M. Jodi Rell said she disagreed with it, but uphold it. She said she was proud to sign the state’s civil unions law in 2005, the first in the nation enacted without a court mandate, and thought it was “equitable and just.”
“The Supreme Court has spoken,” Rell said. “I do not believe their voice reflects the majority of the people of Connecticut. However, I am also firmly convinced that attempts to reverse this decision — either legislatively or by amending the state Constitution — will not meet with success. I will therefore abide by the ruling.”…
The opposition will now turn its sights to the November election, when voters will be asked whether the state should convene a constitutional convention. “Connecticut voters will have one opportunity on Nov. 4 to reassert their right to self government. We must vote yes.”
Here’s the opinion. Skip ahead to page 21 for the crux of it, declaring gays a “quasi-suspect class” for purposes of the state’s equal protection jurisprudence. What “class” you are pretty much determines as a rule whether you can be discriminated against by law; if you belong to a class that’s “suspect,” i.e. historically powerless and persecuted, then the legislature has virtually no leeway against you. The Connecticut Supremes decided they couldn’t call gays a fully “suspect” class because the U.S. Supreme Court hasn’t declared them that (yet), so they opted for “quasi-suspect” based on four factors: (1) historic discrimination, (2) whether sexual orientation is related to one’s ability to contribute to society (this is here to give the state extra power to regulate the disabled), (3) immutability of sexual orientation, i.e. is it a choice or is it inborn and thus unchangeable, and (4) whether gays lack political power, which starts on page 28 and is the most interesting section of the four.
All in all, the analysis is similar to the California Supreme Court’s, which also used an equal protection argument to strike down their state’s marriage statute. The fatal blow for gay marriage opponents is the fact that the state already allows civil unions for gay couples; I think laypeople look at that and assume that that means the state, having acted in good faith, will be given the benefit of the doubt when gays inevitably sue for full marriage rights, but as I’ve tried to explain before, it doesn’t work that way. To discriminate by law, you need a good reason. Admitting that gays should be entitled to all the same rights as married couples but not the label of “marriage” itself forces the court to conclude that the distinction is purely semantic, and semantics simply ain’t good enough as a “good reason.” From page 62:
Although we acknowledge that many legislators and many of their constituents hold strong personal convictions with respect to preserving the traditional concept of marriage as a heterosexual institution, such beliefs, no matter how deeply held, do not constitute the exceedingly persuasive justification required to sustain a statute that discriminates on the basis of a quasi-suspect classification. ‘‘That civil marriage has traditionally excluded same-sex couples—i.e., that the ‘historic
and cultural understanding of marriage’ has been between a man and a woman—cannot in itself provide a [sufficient] basis for the challenged exclusion. To say that the discrimination is ‘traditional’ is to say only that the discrimination has existed for a long time. A classification, however, cannot be maintained merely ‘for its own sake’ [Romer v. Evans, supra, 517 U.S. 635]. Instead, the classification ([that is], the exclusion of gay [persons] from civil marriage) must advance a state interest that is separate from the classification itself [see id., 633, 635]. Because the ‘tradition’ of excluding gay [persons] from civil marriage is no different from the classification itself, the exclusion cannot be justified on the basis of ‘history.’ Indeed, the justification of ‘tradition’ does not explain the classification; it merely repeats it. Simply put, a history or tradition of discrimination—no matter how entrenched—does not make the discrimination constitutional . . . .’’ (Citation omitted.) Hernandez v. Robles, supra, 7 N.Y.3d 395 (Kaye, C. J., dissenting)…It is only because the state has not advanced a sufficiently persuasive justification for denying same sex couples the right to marry that the traditional definition of marriage necessarily must be expanded to include such couples. If the defendants were able to demonstrate sufficient cause to deny same sex couples the right to marry, then we would reject the plaintiffs’ claim and honor the state’s desire to preserve the institution of marriage as a union between a man and a woman. In the absence of such a showing, however, we cannot refuse to follow settled equal protection jurisprudence merely because doing so will result in a change in the definition of marriage.
Exit question: Time to start talking about Obama’s judicial appointments?
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Obama ain’t gonna like that. LOL!
bloggless on October 10, 2008 at 2:08 PM
May as well. We are all gonna take it up the poop cute come January.
lorien1973 on October 10, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Anyways, where is McCain today? Anything from him at all?
lorien1973 on October 10, 2008 at 2:09 PM
Goodbye capitalism. Goodbye rule of law. Goodbye Norman Rockwell. Goodbye America.
D0WNT0WN on October 10, 2008 at 2:09 PM
My wife consistently argues that a gay man has the same right to marry a woman that a straight man has. Hence, no discrimination is refusing to allow a marriage to be defined to include same sex couples.
I personally don’t care. State marriages are legal arrangements, and last I checked God wasn’t all that concerned with man’s legal arrangements. Government should not be in the marriage business – period. That’s the Church’s domain.
TheUnrepentantGeek on October 10, 2008 at 2:10 PM
This might actually be a good thing if McCain can associate Obama with it.
Maxx on October 10, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Now we wouldn’t to be too partisan or offend anyone now would we? Talking about this requires being able to articulate conservatism. McCain has no interest in doing that.
D0WNT0WN on October 10, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Next, the left will re-define “person” to include pets, drawings, sculptures, inflatable sex dolls. Then, they’ll re-define “G-d”, so any newly-defined “person” can be a G-d.
Then, “life”, “good”, “bad”, “is”, “the”…
stonemeister on October 10, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Heh.
You Neanderthals should be careful not to disgust the moderate and reasonable Captain You-Know-Who on this subject.
misterpeasea on October 10, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Your wife is right. But I agree with your opinion. It’s just a legal contract, so who cares.
lorien1973 on October 10, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Couldn’t be any worse. I mean, they could eat live, shreiking toddlers from the bench, or shoot the jury or something and qualify as worse, but really, they couldn’t be any worse.
Akzed on October 10, 2008 at 2:12 PM
With the country on the brink of becoming a full-fledged socialism with the political architects of the mortgage crisis pulling all the strings, anyone who registers stuff like this as more than a 1 on their existential threat meter is out of their mind.
Blacklake on October 10, 2008 at 2:13 PM
All is not lost here in CT. There is a question on the ballot in November as to whether a State Constitutional Convention should be called, which would allow citizen-based referendum questions to be voted upon statewide (if enough signatures are gathered), and Governor Jodi Rell supports it.
The CT Supreme Court decision is likely to fuel a groundswell for the Constitutional Convention and the power of referendum. If the power of referendum is added to the State Constitution, it’s a sure bet that enough signatures will be gathered on the gay-marriage issue within a few months.
There are lots of liberals here on fiscal issues, and government aid to the poor, but marriage is still sacred. This isn’t over yet.
Steve Z on October 10, 2008 at 2:14 PM
What generally bothers me about this is that gays already have the same rights to marry as straights do… they can marry any competent, unrelated adult of the opposite sex, just like I can. If they want to broaden that, it’s a different story.
The anti-Prop 8 ads here in CA are taking the “discrimination; taking away rights” tack. I don’t ming having the discussion (and might even swap sides to vote with them, just as I did for Prop 22 years ago), I just wish it would be an honest discussion.
hindmost on October 10, 2008 at 2:14 PM
I don’t want to be come Europe.
terryannonline on October 10, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Check again, but this time use the Bible.
TMK on October 10, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Look, I DON’T care what gays do in private. I DO care if gays want to proselytize my kids to join their “club”. I DON’T care if they want to dress up in scuba gear in bed. But when they dress up in public, march in parades, write kids’ schoolbooks openly describing their deviance, then I DO CARE.
They have the perfect right to act as silly, disgusting, demeaning, irresponsibly as they want. BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEMAND THAT I RESPECT THEM!
stonemeister on October 10, 2008 at 2:15 PM
I was typing/looking up the Props as you posted… same thing.
hindmost on October 10, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Under Obama, the only type of marriage will be gay marriage. And they’ll all be arranged marriages… by the government.
Trent1289 on October 10, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Already done. Didn’t Farrakhan declare Obama to be the Messiah?
Steve Z on October 10, 2008 at 2:16 PM
If I may carry my comment over from the other thread:
Count to 10 on October 10, 2008 at 2:17 PM
It’s all part of the plan. Same basic plan as used by Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Marx, Castro, etc.
stonemeister on October 10, 2008 at 2:18 PM
Tell your wife that she can marry any lesbian of her choice and see if she thinks that leaves her with equal rights.
paul006 on October 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM
You really hit it. Separating ‘behavior’ from ‘orientation’ or ‘predisposition’ or ‘genetics’. Any behavior can be modified or reinforced. That is why there are so many gays today than in years past. Their arousal behavior wasn’t reinforced very much. Nowadays, anything goes. Actually, the more depraved the behavior, the more it is celebrated by the left, MMM, the courts, etc.
stonemeister on October 10, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Oh yeah. The economy is melting down, Iran is wondering when they can launch their nukes, but gay marriage in Connecticut is the real trigger to end our nation as we know it.
Jesus H. Christ.
MadisonConservative on October 10, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Get ready for Liberal judges….
originalpechanga on October 10, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Good, maybe they’ll stop flocking here
RightWinged on October 10, 2008 at 2:21 PM
You’ve apparently never checked at all.
If marriage is not the government’s business, then what agency of man do you suppose is the appropriate one e.g. to settle disputes over inheritances?
Akzed on October 10, 2008 at 2:22 PM
Second look at Mexico!
cntrlfrk on October 10, 2008 at 2:22 PM
The courts can call it what they want. BUT they can’t FORCE me to call it marriage. Pissing against the wind? Yeah, you might say just to piss them off!
GarandFan on October 10, 2008 at 2:23 PM
We, the Justices of the State Supreme Court, in order to form a more perfect union …………….
fogw on October 10, 2008 at 2:23 PM
“Country First”
Hey folks, there’s always Canada.
cornfedbubba on October 10, 2008 at 2:23 PM
Goodbye? Are you moving to Canada? The conservatives might win over there.
mycowardice on October 10, 2008 at 2:23 PM
You could use the same rationale to justify a ban on interracial marriage, since everyone has an equal right to marry within their race.
dedalus on October 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Uhh. What?
misterpeasea on October 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Who cares if gay people get married. I sure as hell don’t. God will do what He does… not I. I don’t butt into peoples lives and I ask the same. I don’t need/want to know more then what people give. And if they give TMI, I can ignore it and walk away.
upinak on October 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM
“Equal Protection” is the most abused legal argument in American history. It is the last refuge of retarded jurists with an agenda.
progressoverpeace on October 10, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Oh, brother. Well, in that case, straight behavior must be learned, and can be altered. How did you guys choose to be straight?
As a Connecticut resident, this has been in the works for a few years now. It really comes as no surprise…it was inevitable. And gay marriage will someday soon be legal nationwide.
And Western civ. will go on…
JetBoy on October 10, 2008 at 2:27 PM
Cite me a verse where scripture demands that secular authorities like the US government be used to define a marriage contract, and you may have a point.
Unless you’d prefer to troll without offering any substantial discussion.
TheUnrepentantGeek on October 10, 2008 at 2:27 PM
It sometimes seems to me that the material depicting deviant behavior is more accessible than more normal behavior. Zombie had a page of photos from a convention in Folsom, CA that was mind-boggling in its deviancy, with kids being pushed around in strollers.
Count to 10 on October 10, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Good – let them marry if they wish.
Ares on October 10, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Pushing the sin of Sodom through while the nation and the world are in turmoil. Do it now while nobodies paying attention. Watch for others to soon follow suit.
apacalyps on October 10, 2008 at 2:29 PM
So when exactly is Barney Frank crossing the border for his weddin’?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 10, 2008 at 2:30 PM
And I get so much grief for also wanting to marry my mistress. Heterophobes!
JiangxiDad on October 10, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Look,what goes on behind bedroom doors,is of no
concern,
unless its the basement door,leading into
Barneys basement,a hem!
canopfor on October 10, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Ever heard of cultural Marxism? Once non-discrimination becoming the central ruling principle of society then its already Marxist regardless of the economic system. Institutions such as marriage have to be turned inside out in order to equalise 2% of the population. Every aspect of society can and will be deranged in this way.
aengus on October 10, 2008 at 2:30 PM
It’s time to storm the capital and kick ALL of the politicians out!
SaintOlaf on October 10, 2008 at 2:30 PM
From the State that brought you………….CHRIS DODD!
pilamaye on October 10, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Marriage ceremonies do not take place behind bedroom doors.
aengus on October 10, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Oh, I don’t know. Maybe it seemed reasonable at the time. The point is, I could still choose to be otherwise if I worked at it.
The fact is, I like kids, and would like to have some of my own someday. I also think they loose a lot by not having both a mother and a father.
Count to 10 on October 10, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Being black or white is not a moral problem. Being attracted to another man’s a*e is.
When govt bans smoking in public bldgs, it makes a moral decision that it’s wrong to force waitresses to breathe 2nd hand smoke. It’s stupid, I don’t agree with it, but it is a moral decision as much as laws against murder or the speed limit. It’s wrong to break the law. Ask any judge.
State recognition of buggers marrying means that it will be illegal to keep them away from me and my family. Family Day at the lake for employees? Can’t tell Adam that he can’t bring Steve and parade around before the kids holding hands. Whoever thinks that’s fine is both a moral imbecile and a revolutionary, an enemy of God and man in general, and of western culture in particular.
To argue that the financial crisis puts this all in the back seat is also imbecility. We are experiencing a full out attack on our entire culture: financially, morally, religiously, culturally, you name it. Not one institution of the West is not under attack as we speak. It is the height of materialism and tunnel vision to argue that this decision is not as important as anything else going on today.
Akzed on October 10, 2008 at 2:31 PM
From the news thread:
The desire, or fear, related to bike riding can be subconscious. In most cases the fear of falling is not a learned emotion, rather it is something we experience whether we want to or not.
dedalus on October 10, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Preach it!
Who cares.
I just want to be left alone, socially and economically. Get out of my life. Get out of my wallet.
lorien1973 on October 10, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Actually I just did, but thanks for starting the debate on an entirely uncivil front.
What does this have to do with the price of tea in China? What do inheritances have to do with anything? Would you like to explain that, or are we going to have a discussion by spouting non-sequiters and yelling one-liners at each other?
As I said, it’s the church’s domain to marry or not. The legal rights our secular government creates in marriage can already be enacted without actually getting married … it just takes a while longer. Marriage is a spiritual thing – binding two people together. It’s not the legal contract that creates that bond, which is the truly important part of marriage. I grant you that community recognition of marriage is important … which is why the CHURCH should do it.
TheUnrepentantGeek on October 10, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Thank you. But crap like this takes some of the sting outta getting old :)
JiangxiDad on October 10, 2008 at 2:32 PM
Here come the fundie bible thumpers…
For the record, the “sin of Sodom” was not homosexuality…it was overt sexual activity.
JetBoy on October 10, 2008 at 2:33 PM
What limits? Why those? I’ve got an awfully cute cow.
JiangxiDad on October 10, 2008 at 2:33 PM
They did also try to rape two angels posing as men. Lot instead decided to throw his virgin daughters out to them, proving that no, there were no virtuous men in Sodom at all.
Esthier on October 10, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Ah. Ok then. Please just ignore me, sir. It’s pointless to try to have a discussion with someone I can’t deem rational on this issue.
TheUnrepentantGeek on October 10, 2008 at 2:35 PM
But what about the bisexuals, shouldn’t they be allowed to visit a spouse of each gender in the hospital? The fascist judges in CT are forcing the bisexuals to deny their immutable identity and pick just one matrimonial team.
rw on October 10, 2008 at 2:36 PM
You could if you follow the argument that homosexuals are born that way and cannot be otherwise. As I said in the other thread, I just don’t see any sense in that argument.
Esthier on October 10, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Exit answer: Too late for that.
ManlyRash on October 10, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Only a few decades ago many people saw a mixing of the races as a moral issue.
It is already illegal to keep gay employees away from family day at the lake. At the lake some people may be gay, some men may have divorced their wives and be attending with their trophy wife and second family. One can object to either lifestyle, but they have the right to attend.
dedalus on October 10, 2008 at 2:38 PM
You keep comforting yourself with that, um, Jetboy.
ManlyRash on October 10, 2008 at 2:39 PM
Troublemaker.
JiangxiDad on October 10, 2008 at 2:39 PM
That’s ridiculous and you know it.
Homosexuality is without a doubt of the enemy and opposed to the Will of God.
The main argument against gay marriage however is not morality, but freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
Once gay marriage is legalized… anything that is disparaging of it is considered HATE SPEECH and religions which condemn it (i.e. Christianity) will be outlawed or involuntarily modified.
SaintOlaf on October 10, 2008 at 2:40 PM
Yep. It’s all about the number TWO, now. Nothing else matters, but the number TWO stands as the last “immutable truth”, and for no reason, whatsoever. Gays will now fight against anyone who doesn’t believe in the great TWO – forgetting that the TWO derives from the fact that we have two sexes.
Oh well. Logic and reason left our institutions a long time ago.
progressoverpeace on October 10, 2008 at 2:40 PM
And if they give me TMI.
upinak on Oct 10,2008 at 2:24PM.
upinak: I hope thats stands for The Mental Imagery!haha:)
canopfor on October 10, 2008 at 2:41 PM
My opinion:
Marriage is a legal contract between two consenting adults.
Animals cannot make the choice. (Duh!)
Children are not of legal age (Duh!)
Multiple wives/husbands become an economic problem. Marriage is a two party contract.
lorien1973 on October 10, 2008 at 2:41 PM
It may as well. too much information
Esthier on October 10, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Don’t see the need to ask the animal.
I’m rich. I can afford multiple spouses of multiple sexes.
My opinion.
JiangxiDad on October 10, 2008 at 2:43 PM
Actually, if you are taking the tack of what marriage has been, there is ample precedent among most cultures for polygamy. There is none for gay marriage.
Just a little historical note to put this debate in perspective.
progressoverpeace on October 10, 2008 at 2:44 PM
lol gays lack political power in New England? What an f’ing joke. There’s a sodomite jackboot around every corner trying to get at schoolchildren with their propaganda over and above parents, and school administrators willing to help lest they too be branded homophobe.
Bottom line:
Gay marriage is not about marriage. It is about attacking the foundation of moral society. Everywhere a gay marriage ruling occurs, a knock on the door of Christian institutions swiftly follows:
“We’re from the government, and we’re here to stop discrimination. Start allowing gay couples to adopt or fall victim to a lawsuit.”
I pray that our homosexual friends commenters find the strength to abandon their practices. They are the unwitting pawns of a much more sinister movement, a movement that seeks to take a private vice and present it as a public virtue. A virtue treated much more sacred than marriage, for this “virtue” can be used to supress what is and has always been an actual right: religious freedom.
Don’t marry gays? Don’t allow gays to adopt? Lose 503(c) status.
BKennedy on October 10, 2008 at 2:44 PM
How so?
Esthier on October 10, 2008 at 2:44 PM
Judicial tyranny.
TheBigOldDog on October 10, 2008 at 2:44 PM
I agree. I believe that historically government had an interest in marriage because it was understood that the family contributed to society in a special way in great part because of their role in procreation and rearing on new members of that society. But it is from the government perspective a legal arrangement.
So if it is going to be anything else that the traditional family (with the potential for reproduction and the special ties that it implies) why call it marriage, jut evolve the concept of civil unions and associate with it whatever rights you want to. And why limit this to a “guy marriage” and not for instance to two siblings living together and deciding to adopt children, or a number of different domestic arrangements. Why is any sexual component required to define a civil union from this perspective?
neuquenguy on October 10, 2008 at 2:44 PM
This has already happened in Canada. In Sweden Lutheran priests are forced to marry homosexuals. No religious exemption for Catholic adoption agencies in Boston or Britain. In America specifically, Prom Kings and Queens will seen as discriminatory.
Except that limiting marriage to two people will in time be seen as discriminatory.
aengus on October 10, 2008 at 2:45 PM
It was only a matter of time…the great and powerful StOlaf has spoken!
So, the acceptance of gay marriage will end Christianity…talk about ridiculous. As a mass-attending Catholic, I haven’t caused the Holy See to crumble yet.
And again…when did Jesus ever condemn homosexuality? Oh, yeah…He didn’t.
JetBoy on October 10, 2008 at 2:46 PM
the next step is to make christianity a hate crime…they’re trying to impose a gay sharia law, if you don’t agree with them, you’re guity of a hate crime..
right4life on October 10, 2008 at 2:46 PM
this is such a stupid argument, its really pathetic…He didn’t condemn chopping a baby into pieces…so Obviously HE’s all for it!!! duhhhhhhhh
right4life on October 10, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Jesus never condemned gang violence, concentration camps, or nuclear warfare specifically either.
But I imagine based on his teachings he doesn’t find them appealing.
BKennedy on October 10, 2008 at 2:48 PM
What a deranged view of marriage. Men and women and different and complement each other. They are wed in holy matrimony. They beget children.
Homosexuals are not prevented from contacting their solicitor and making out their will to whomsoever they choose to leave their belongings.
aengus on October 10, 2008 at 2:48 PM
Not what I meant. Do you think about riding a bike?
The actual skill in subconscious.
Count to 10 on October 10, 2008 at 2:48 PM
Multiple wives….multiple credit cards….if THAT ain’t an economic problem waiting to happen…
;-)
JetBoy on October 10, 2008 at 2:49 PM
1.) Pedophilia is a crime against a child. Usually, there is no crime with consenting sex between adults.
2.) I disagree with you and think that sexual orientation is involuntarily present by the time of puberty.
3.) A man could prefer a woman from another race, but the forced substitution of a different woman might possibly satisfy him. However, if the substitution were not a woman but instead a man, that would not be at all acceptable.
dedalus on October 10, 2008 at 2:49 PM
…fewer Yankees reproducing means fewer Yankees….
…this decision is a bad move for the civil society, is a victory for the cause of perversion, and this is a black day for morality…but is a win/win one area, at least….
…you’ve gotta take what you can get….
Puritan1648 on October 10, 2008 at 2:50 PM
You should not be allowed to take the Eucharist.
Does your Priest know that you are a unrepentant practicing homosexual?
SaintOlaf on October 10, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Remember the case recently in Utah?
Some dude had like 20 wives and 57 children? He had a job making 50,000 per year. The wives and kids were all on welfare since he, obviously, could not support them all.
Economic problem.
From a contemporary, economic perspective, it only makes sense as a 2 party contract.
However, if you are a guy and have 3 wives and can support your family – everyone working or whatever – (including possible kids) then knock yourself out. I don’t really care about that either.
Given the high divorce/remarry rate in this country, with multiple offspring from multiple husband/wives, we have this situation – essentially – already.
lorien1973 on October 10, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Great- it should be legal in all 50 states. Doesn’t bother me.
Noneya on October 10, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Does your Priest know that you are an unrepentant practicing asshole?
SnarkVader on October 10, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Not to mention, PMS happening at the same time for them all.
Lord help that guy!
lorien1973 on October 10, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Sometimes I voluntarily think about riding a bike. Sometimes, I involuntarily dream about riding a bike.
Most straight men will have erotic dreams, involuntarily, that involve women.
dedalus on October 10, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Fine. In your religious ceremony, you are married before God.
When you go to the state office, you are marred in the eyes of the state. It’s a simple legal document. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Separate the religious aspect of marriage from the legal one.
It might help.
lorien1973 on October 10, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Good for Connecticut. Another blow against homophobia, the last acceptable prejudice. The sooner we give gays the same marriage rights as straights, the better.
Enrique on October 10, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Who said it has to be multiple wives? :)
Actually, He did.
Jesus spoke out against not only murder but the anger that leads to murder. If you can set off a nuke, make a concentration camp, or engage in gang violence without even insulting another person, then I guess He’d be all for that.
Esthier on October 10, 2008 at 2:53 PM
ARod stopped being a giggolo? It is a miracle. As if we need any more Yankees.
BKennedy on October 10, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Jesus certainly condemned violence. All those fall into that category.
*sigh*
Jesus condemned murder…I would think “chopping a baby into pieces” falls into that.
You guys keep grasping those straws tho…
JetBoy on October 10, 2008 at 2:53 PM
…I recall a line in a movie, “Saint Jack”, spoken by an expatriate British character….
…it went something like “Britain made homosexuality legal…I left before they made it compulsory”….
Puritan1648 on October 10, 2008 at 2:54 PM
*sigh*
Jesus also upheld the law of Moses..which condemnes in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS homosexuality..
You guys keep grasping those straws tho…
right4life on October 10, 2008 at 2:55 PM
Denying human biology for your own satisfaction is a form of violence. The anus is not designed as a sexual organ. Serial homosexual relationships kill men faster than cigarettes. The tearing that often occurs can introduce infections, STDs or otherwise.
Yes, I suppose you could “be careful,” but jumping off a cliff with a parachute is no more rational than jumping off a cliff with one.
If radical feminists are any indication, lesbianism isn’t good for your mental health and well-being either.
BKennedy on October 10, 2008 at 2:56 PM
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