ACORN may face new charges in PA; Update: Video added
posted at 9:39 am on October 10, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
The probe into fraudulent voter registrations in Allegheny County may soon produce criminal charges, according to the DA. The charges may not be limited to the misdemeanor of registration fraud, either, but potentially forgery — a felony that carries a stiff sentence:
The Allegheny County district attorney said Thursday that criminal charges could result from nearly 100 fraudulent voter registrations submitted in the Pittsburgh area, some of which came from a group accused of flooding elections offices around the country with bogus applications. …
“There are clearly people on some of these applications that were not solicited … or may not exist,” he said.
Asked whether the investigation would lead to charges, Zappala said: “There appears to be a crime, yes.”
Violations of election laws generally are misdemeanor charges, but forging a signature on an official document is a violation of criminal law and could be a felony. In Pennsylvania, a second-degree felony forgery conviction could carry up to 10 years in prison.
This could be a promising path to take with other prosecutions. If workers sign fraudulent registration cards, that becomes forgery, and that’s a felony in most if not all jurisdictions. Also, if memory serves, perjury can also apply in some cases of entering false information on government forms, but perhaps that doesn’t apply to voter registrations. If not, it should.
Let’s hope the Allegheny County DA files the toughest charges he can find. The only way to stop ACORN from committing its systemic fraud throughout the nation is to start filing tough charges against its foot soldiers, who can then expose the executives for any directives they have issued to generate thousands upon thousands of fraudulent registrations. When the canvassers start facing 10-year sentences, we will start hearing plenty about ACORN management.
Update: Just to give a flavor of ACORN’s tactics, Palestra interviewed one of the most-registered voters in our nation’s history:
Here’s the most insidious part about the effort. The flood of registrations ACORN supplies creates an overload for registrars, who then have a more difficult time finding the more subtle cases of registration fraud. Is ACORN deliberately overloading registrars to hide some other effort?
Also, I’ve changed the post title. I know Allegheny County is Pittsburgh, but for some reason I wrote Philly. Must be the Steagles era that confused me.
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Allegheny County is Pittsburgh. Philadelphia County is Philly.
Wethal on October 10, 2008 at 9:42 AM
Ed, will they look into BO’s “bagmen” there?
jgapinoy on October 10, 2008 at 9:43 AM
Sue the bastards. ACORN is a menace to the world. It’s worse than Politburo in its impact if it manages to steal the election.
promachus on October 10, 2008 at 9:44 AM
Doesn’t anyone else here see the pattern?
1. Take over the media for its propaganda pattern.
2. Undermine the “free” election process, emphasizing voter fraud.
3. Undermine the economy.
It’s all going down like clockwork. Fidel, Mao, Hitler, Stalin, Marx, Pol Pot, would all be proud.
stonemeister on October 10, 2008 at 9:44 AM
Nothing to see here, folks. Move along….move along.
ManlyRash on October 10, 2008 at 9:45 AM
Re. my “bagmen” question.
jgapinoy on October 10, 2008 at 9:45 AM
Too little too late.
grapeknutz on October 10, 2008 at 9:45 AM
*waving hand to accomplish Jedi mind control*
These aren’t the bagmen you are looking for. He’s free to go. Move along….move along…
ManlyRash on October 10, 2008 at 9:47 AM
“no one from local offices is allowed to speak with media”
…because someone might tell the truth.
jgapinoy on October 10, 2008 at 9:49 AM
Where is the investigative reporting on this scandal…Obama, a former lawyer and director of an Acorn GOTV project, who slyly donated 800k to Acorn….and we have, what, the 13th state now with fake voter registrations?
Imagine R’s had thousands of people registering ghosts to vote.
Where are the Bob Woodwards of the world on this?
I do want to point out that getting alot of people registered to vote is one (pretty easy) thing, actually having them go to different polling places is another, right? Least I hope so…
hippie_chucker on October 10, 2008 at 9:49 AM
O/T – I just read this article from IBD and decided to call Barney Frank’s office to ask when he was going to resign from Congress and the person that answered the phone hung up on me. Thinking I may have just dropped the call I called back and asked “did you just hang up on me?” and the guy said “I sure did”. He must be getting a lot of calls.
I got straight through so if you want to harass the crook call him @ 202-225-5931.
DerKrieger on October 10, 2008 at 9:49 AM
You should probably just leave the headline as “Philly” because whatever they’re doing in Pittsburgh, it’s probably 10 times worse in Philly and the story will be hitting the wires any minute now.
forest on October 10, 2008 at 9:50 AM
“I’ll register over and over if it’ll help someone out”
badpenguin on October 10, 2008 at 9:51 AM
Add “undermine confidence in our institutions” and you’ve got them all. Implement them completely and you’ve got the rise of the Fourth Reich.
rplat on October 10, 2008 at 9:52 AM
I’m telling you, it is all connected. The economy, national security, Voter Fraud, Rezko, Ayers, Mortgage crisis, AKORN, Wright, Soros. It is all connected. BO is only the shiny, new vehicle to put the leftists in charge. When will people wake up and realize what is going on? It’s like a coup.
bloggless on October 10, 2008 at 9:52 AM
So at what point will they decide we need to postpone the election because the fraud is so rampant, and the election officials don’t have enough time left to uncover the extent of the fraud?
Oh That’s right- that would only happen if McCain was ahead!
anniekc on October 10, 2008 at 9:52 AM
So…
If we ever manage to get all the dead and felons to stop voting and start allowing people to only vote once, will voter turnout drop to about 1% and will we learn that Hillary only made about 1800 cracks in that ‘ol glass ceiling?
Damiano on October 10, 2008 at 9:53 AM
People should be in jail over this, for long sentences.
Including ACORN’s financier, Barack Obama.
This undermines the country in so many ways.
It’s part of the Democrat Party tradition to steal votes, but now they’ve become so brazen that even bastions of worthless, corrupt and incompetent Democrat Party hacks like Pittsburgh, can no longer ignore it.
NoDonkey on October 10, 2008 at 9:54 AM
Senator McCain, are you listening?
New.Debate.Material. Study hard. Study long. Clobber Teh One over his alliance with ACORN if you want a fighting chance of winning the election.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 10, 2008 at 9:55 AM
Like someone said, conservatives just don’t have time to riot, or community organize, or drive homeless people to register to vote. We’re busy…..working.
It’s ironic, isn’t it? That those with time on their hands like these people do will manage to subvert our system, so that they can game more money to feed the beast with. Makes me sick.
hippie_chucker on October 10, 2008 at 9:55 AM
They want to undermine our Country. That is why they do it.
bloggless on October 10, 2008 at 9:55 AM
Im glad the Secretary of State in Ohio has been charged too. This needs to be stopped or we will have another 2000 election. The election wont be over until January.
Obama has his finger in this too. Between fraud with his donors and now fraud with ACORN….I dont think its looking good for him. Of course….will the MSM report this?
becki51758 on October 10, 2008 at 9:55 AM
I’m wondering how much the GOP margin in the last two presidental elections might have changed if this’d come to light sooner…like when it was first happening, perhaps?
I don’t care how ideological you are, voter fraud simply has GOT to cut to the core of what you belive to be fair and just, doesn’t it?
Doesn’t it?
Bob's Kid on October 10, 2008 at 9:56 AM
Does ACORN pay commissions for large numbers of registrations, or do the workers get paid a flat rate?
forest on October 10, 2008 at 9:58 AM
Ha! I tried it too, some gay guy answered, hung up on me too!
stonemeister on October 10, 2008 at 9:58 AM
Watching Greta last night, it occurred to me that it might not be necessary for The Obama’s ballot box stuffing project be successful.
It might be sufficient for it to appear that vote fraud might be possible.
This calls into question the validity of the vote outcome Nov 4th. It might not be necessary to actually achieve vote fraud if all that is required is that The Obama can discredit the process, by destroying trust between election officials and the voters.
On Greta, last night, there were reports of harassing phone calls going to the Office of the Ohio Secretary of State, and harassing and threatening calls going to the amateur journalists who were attempting to report on the issue.
This certainly appears to be the kind of project that a community trouble maker would use to create the chaos that would present an exploitable opportunity. Think of it as a covert PsyWar operation to destabilize the target country.
rockhauler on October 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM
I’m sure the Democrat congress will tackle this issue head on in their first hundred days.
It’s time to have a national voting system when you’re in the booth, and a national standard for registration that includes several forms of ID, and proof of a fixed residence…
hippie_chucker on October 10, 2008 at 10:00 AM
More racist shenanigans from the GOP.
When will this persecution stop?? Are they going to put the ACORN hard worker sin shackles and make them row their own boat to federal prison also?????
RACIST!!!!!!!!!
YellowDawg on October 10, 2008 at 10:01 AM
RICO RICO RICO RICO!!!
I want to see people in HANDCUFFS doing a PERP WALK!
This is beyond the pale. Just imagine if it were (as the left so lovingly call us) the ReTHUGlicans were up to this? Good golly – the screams would be deafening.
tru2tx on October 10, 2008 at 10:02 AM
If 5 million illegals can own a home here, rigging an election with an army of community organizers is a cakewalk.
hippie_chucker on October 10, 2008 at 10:02 AM
Doofus, you’re not supposed to call his house.
hoosiermama on October 10, 2008 at 10:02 AM
I ran into an voter registration activist the other day as I walked out of a liquor store. Didn’t see any at the outdoors shop or the farm supply store.
forest on October 10, 2008 at 10:03 AM
Stupid college student. Changing your name is fraud, but registering dozens of times isn’t? No wonder these types are Oslime-a supporters.
csdeven on October 10, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Just had a talk with someone in Frank’s office for 5 minutes, got some good back-and-forth. Came down to this: they were instructed not to waste time on these ‘harassing’ calls, but I gave him my contact info and the question for Barney, “What level of responsibility are you willing to take for the sub-prime ‘mess’ and resulting financial ‘meltdown’?” He couldn’t give me a guarantee about a response, but assured me he’d ask Frank.
stonemeister on October 10, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Most bizarre thing I’ve seen. Multiple ACORN canvassers in NYC, plus Obama political ads running in NYC also.
Wouldn’t this be, you know, a COLLOSAL waste of money as New York ic about as blue as you can get?
YellowDawg on October 10, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Are you being sarcastic? Please explain
kangjie on October 10, 2008 at 10:07 AM
They have pork to distribute. It’s make-work for the canvassers.
forest on October 10, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Naaaah! I’m sure he’s being dead serious.
stonemeister on October 10, 2008 at 10:08 AM
WHAT A BIG SURPRISE! THIS CRAP GOES ON EVERY ELECTION. NO ONE DOES ANYTHING!!! NOT ONLY DOES ACORN THRIVE- WE PAY THESE CREEPS WITH OUR OWN MONEY!! THIS IS TAXPAYER FUNDED ELECTION FRAUD.
DEAR LORD HEELP US.
BEAM ME UP SCOTTY- I HAVE REALLY HAD ENOUGH
lisalj on October 10, 2008 at 10:09 AM
I don’t have a link on this, but I’ve read somewhere that ACORN canvassers are paid on a per-registration basis. Crime pays. Buying the election by having the same people register and vote over and over in the names of their dead aunt and uncle, cats and dogs, comic-book characters and the Dallas Cowboys.
Why spend oodles of money on campaigns and TV ads trying to convince voters of the wisdom of your candidate’s policy proposals, when you can buy fraudulent votes for minimum wage? More bang for the buck, and laws be d@mned. Just like AmeriKKKa.
Steve Z on October 10, 2008 at 10:10 AM
IF you register to vote, you are expected to perform jury duty. I was called and I asked about compliance. Officers of the court told me about 85% comply in my county, but in BIG CITY County next door more like 28%. Three days in the pokey would stop this madness.
deptofredundancydept on October 10, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Overloading registrars is basically the same tactic that ACORN pulled on banks to force sub-prime loans. They would cause problems at individual branches. These are disgusting people.
Cindy Munford on October 10, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Let’s see:
I’ll meet without preconditions
Rezko
Wright
Pflegler
Ayers
Raines
Johnson
Acorn
Socialist Party member
Iraqui “negotiations” behind president’s back
Deep ties to Kenyan political crooks
How old is this guy again? He’s got a lifetime worth of despicable alliances and questionable judgements already!
Sugar Land on October 10, 2008 at 10:13 AM
No, but if there are criminal charges, they might have to. Also, the McCain/Palin campaign and conservative 527 groups have to jump on this.
Steve Z on October 10, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Didn’t you get the memo? EVERYTHING the GOP does is racist. Since those old gasbags won’t come right out and say it, we have to put on oiur magic tinfoil race decoder hats all the time.
YellowDawg on October 10, 2008 at 10:14 AM
In my car this morning, listening to the radio, the local news channel reported that there were over 300 people in my county who voted by mail in the recent primary (it was on Sept. 2nd), and then came to the polls on election day and cast a second vote. Primary turnout was low, but more than 300 people were caught voting twice — in just one county.
Anybody who thinks voter fraud is not rampant in this country, or that it’s not going to be going on in huge numbers in the presidential election, is kidding themselves.
AZCoyote on October 10, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Yes, it seems all orchestrated indeed…
Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis
Kevin in Washington State on October 10, 2008 at 10:16 AM
My, she is quite the citizen! She’ll “register over and over” because she “wants to help herself and the country.”
Star20 on October 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM
I hope charges are filed. Under RICO, hopefully.
becki51758 on October 10, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Anyone remember William Jefferson? is he in jail? No dimwitocrats will be ever prosecuted in this scandal.
grapeknutz on October 10, 2008 at 10:20 AM
deptofredundancydept on October 10, 2008 at 10:12 AM
Not only do I agree that jailtime sounds like a great idea, I really truly like your login deptofredundancydept. lol.
tru2tx on October 10, 2008 at 10:21 AM
These ACORN bastards are violating my civil rights by fraudulently negating my vote. They had better not let them get away with this assault on our liberties.
rplat on October 10, 2008 at 10:22 AM
Steve – they do get paid per registration. They also tend to hire felons, addicts and other folks that put money above the law. Registering voters for ACORN was the last job my felon, meth-dealing older brother had before he ended up back in jail for being a felon in posession of a weapon.
Even if the management never told the “foot soldiers” to do anything wrong, they certainly created the climate for forgery by hiring desperate people and offering them more money for more registrations. Furthermore, it doesn’t look like anyone in management had problems paying for a Donald Duck registration when they came in.
JadeNYU on October 10, 2008 at 10:24 AM
I’m telling you, it is all connected. The economy, national security, Voter Fraud, Rezko, Ayers, Mortgage crisis, AKORN, Wright, Soros. It is all connected. BO is only the shiny, new vehicle to put the leftists in charge. When will people wake up and realize what is going on? It’s like a coup.
bloggless on October 10, 2008 at 9:52 AM
BINGO!!!!!!!! Dead right on target bloggless!
Keemo on October 10, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Yeah. It’s the perfect storm to usher in the era.
And after the ascendancy of The One:
The Fairness Doctrine
Amnesty
Card Check
Gun Control
Nationalizing several industries to save the environment
etc.
I’m off to reread 1984.
BowHuntingTexas on October 10, 2008 at 10:24 AM
I guess I have officially slipped over to ODS.
He is televised at a rally this morning and instead of reaching for my .357 to shoot the TV, I chose to put on an old Danny Kaye movie.
Danny Kaye can be pretty hard to take too.
tru2tx on October 10, 2008 at 10:28 AM
I added in the rest. Hope you don’t mind :-o
Gilda on October 10, 2008 at 10:29 AM
That’s what has me extremely concerned. BO must must stopped by any and all legal means possible. Unethical is ok, just keep them legal.
Brass Pair on October 10, 2008 at 10:37 AM
This we can do: Shout up Acorn’s illicit practices for the next 25 days.
We can’t make McCain more Conservative.
We can’t get anyone to listen about Obama’s sins.
We can’t flip the ticket putting Sarah on top.
But we can denounce Acorn to our brethren and sistren who may not have been playing close attention yet.
From little Acorns mighty corrupt Obamas grow.
Pass it on.
Doug on October 10, 2008 at 10:42 AM
This would probably not(if at all) happen in Australia. Australia is a parliamentary system where once the Prime Minister calls the election voters have only 3 days to register to vote. Once the electoral rolls are closed that is final. And there are extra identity checks as well – proof of ID – drivers licence, proof of address etc.
I’m surprised the US isn’t this careful.
Crux Australis on October 10, 2008 at 10:51 AM
Just watched fox they said there was 105% regestered voters in Indy, people its going on all over the country and Gawd I hope they can do something to stop it or it’s all over for our great country.But on the plus side look at the gun sales going up all over the country too.Tell me people aren’t worried.
tee866 on October 10, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Sort of off-topic but not really. Go to
http://rtwp.blogspot.com/2007/05/george-soros-media-matters-richard-poe_09.html
Scroll about halfway down, to the Appendix, Horowitz’ arguments that Media Matters did not refute or contest. Starting with Argument #5, the arguments show MEGA connections between Soros and the Cloward-Piven Plan and how communiy activism such as ACORN fits in the grand scheme.
This is a MUST-READ.
A while back I was reading the Chinese plan for all-out warfare, including economic. What struck me was how badly they hate George Soros and “what he did to them”. I didn’t understand the background. Reading the above article gave me an eye-full of where Soros comes from, what he’s done so far, and what he’s working on – and it has EVERYTHING to do with Cloward-Piven.
Soros is exactly the kind of guy Yuri Bezmenov was talking about when he said: “This was my instruction. Try to get into large circulation, established, conservative media. Rich, filthy rich movie makers. Intellectuals. So-called “academic circles”. Cynical, eccentric people who can look into your eyes with angelic expression and tell you a lie. This are the most recruitable people, people who lack moral principles, who are either too greedy or too, suffer from self-importance. They feel that they matter a lot. This is all the people who KGB wanted very much to recruit.”
A further aside:
From the “Was Obama a Member of The New Party?” thread :
More from Davidson, who feels that Barack is slipping away from him on the war:
To be fair, I read a recent speech he gave to laid-off workers from a plant closing out in Galesburg, IL, around globalization, corporate responsibility, the safety net, the third wave, and so on. It was very good. Save for not mentioning the war, I probably couldn’t written a better one myself.
Anyone know what the “third wave” is? It would save me a trip to wiki.
BTW, the endorsement from KD is from his Marxism Message newsletter, and goes back to January 2007.
Buy Danish on October 8, 2008 at 6:20 PM
>>>
Buy Danish, I don’t know if you went to wiki and found out, but in context I really wonder if this is actually “The Third Way” – which is the Clinton hybrid of capitalism and socialism. The above site references this also.
justincase on October 10, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Seems to me that all these people falsifying registrations could at least be charged with ‘theft by deception’. They’re cheating ACORN by cheating on payroll. And, apparently, we the taxpayer, are paying for it.
Nothing can convince me that ACORN itself is not involved. It’s too widespread for them not to be encouraging this!
sonja13 on October 10, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Cleveland Newspaper connects ACORN to Obama from 2004 with Photo
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7203
jp on October 10, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Nothing will be done in a timely manner to stop this abuse and clean it up prior this election and if Obama is elected President it will all be dropped or ignored.
ACORN and the Democrats now this and planned for it.
albill on October 10, 2008 at 11:16 AM
ACORN pays per registration
Vashta.Nerada on October 10, 2008 at 11:16 AM
the BUSH DOJ, has to persue this. The fate of the nation is at stake if we just let Obama win with Pelosi and Reid congress
jp on October 10, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Yep. Roll them. Better hurry. This will all disappear if Bambi wins.
a capella on October 10, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Yeah, now I’m getting crap when I wear my Eagles hat. It’s not just the Obama fans giving me a hard time, although Obama fans are truly viscious and immature. I feel like I’m in high school, no, grade school; “nuh uh, mine’s better”
Moxie on October 10, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Yesterday Ken Blackwell said that ACORN had such an impact on the Carter/Ford election in OH that if things had been run correctly Ford probably actually won OH. He said if you follow this line of corruption by ACORN, it is more than likely Ford won the election. Imagine how different things would be if Carter had never been elected.
In one sense this sort of, and I mean sort of, gives me a better feeling towards my fellow Americans. If most Americans are that far gone in the head then why is there a need for ACORN? Perhaps ACORN is like an insurance policy in case the American public wises up. Based on what I know, and have seen of ACORN, they have more in common with Nazism than the MSM is willing to give them. ACORN is all about squashing the individual, and for the most part singularly focuses in on African-Americans. They intimidate our citizens, and promote race and class warfare in the minds of the people they come in contact with, and plant seeds of sheer hatred.
This whole ACORN fiasco sums up Obama totally. Lying, cheating, slight of hand and criminally liable are words that pretty much sum it up. During the primaries with Hillary he began his racially charged campaign, and he began a division in America that for all intense and purposes resembles the days of the 1950′s-70′s when our nation was in turmoil over race relations. Obama is solely responsible for causing a new racial divide in this country. Win or lose, I wonder how long it will take for us to no longer look at each other with suspicion and lack of trust or even fear. Some of you may say this is ridiculous, and way off the mark. I will remind you of the video of those young African-Americans chanting for Obama, and then I will tell you African-Americans have personally communicated to me the divisions are definitely there and highly volatile. Then I would point to the comment section of Ben Smith’s article yesterday at Politico about how Obama thought Ayers was reformed. There is a lot of hatred out there for anyone that supports McCain/Palin. A lot!
It is really very sad and disturbing to see ACORN run rampant for so long and not one Republican President took it upon himself to shut this down. No, instead we put border agents in jail. But beyond this is the fact that we are a nation in crisis no matter what your race. We have young people in jails at alarming numbers, a rise of STDs in young people, high school drop out rates are horrendous, and gang activities are disturbing. We have economic issues and wars to be won and all this racially charged language from the Obama campaign and Obama himself on divides AMERICANS from finding solutions together, and keeping our nation strong, together. We have fought together for this nation and died together for this nation and I pray to God that we can survive this election together because if not, our nation will surely die.
freeus on October 10, 2008 at 11:39 AM
ACORN pays 8.00 an hour for workers but you have a quota to fill each day to keep your job. If you dont mee the quota you get fired.
William Amos on October 10, 2008 at 12:49 PM
BTW going after the underlings wont count because ACORN has a standard “Throw them under the bus” operation for anyone caught doing voter fraud. The Big cheifs claim that the little indians caught did the voter fraud on their own and use them to avoid any criminal charges.
They built the system to protect themselves.
William Amos on October 10, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Guys and gals, we’ve been kicking around relocating to Texas, Alaska, or Alaskas (combination of the two) for some time on these HA threads. Shall we consider adding Australia to the mix?
I’m of Irish descent (2nd generation US) — I wonder if I can get in on a prison pass…
Y-not on October 10, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Might this be an added benefit for them:
When ACORN brings in massive registrations of Dems Only, do the pollsters then re-analyze their data to be more Dem-Heavy than actual….increasing Obama’s numbers?
mredly on October 10, 2008 at 1:00 PM
Have been talking about that possibility for years, but to do so I believe you need to have secured employment in the country.
The wife is none to hip on the idea due to the number of poisonous animals. I figure you can kill animals if you need to, but poisonous ideals are much more difficult ot deal with.
Marine_Bio on October 10, 2008 at 1:02 PM
Maybe with all of these Democratic registrations by ACORN will explain why the pollsters have shifted to interviewing more Democrats than Republicans thus giving Mr. Obama a larger slice of the respondents.
amr on October 10, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Open up a fresh jar of RICO sauce for the ACORN chips.
moxie_neanderthal on October 10, 2008 at 5:06 PM
I suspect you mean sytematic rather that systemic. Systemic would be more that the system has a problem that prevents people from properly registering. Systematic means that in an organized or deliberate fashion someone or some group is attempting to alter (Could I say rig?) the voter registration base for their own purposes.
This is akin to last year’s shamnesty bill. One of our major objects was that the illegal immigrants would be “processed” in an unrealistic time frame. Those of us with common sense knew that the bill’s stated time frame would invite government bureaucrats to “shortcut” the vetting process and likely lead to “rubber stamping” of many who would not ordinarily be allowed legal entry into the country.
Wildcatter1980 on October 11, 2008 at 10:55 AM