Townhall voter to McCain: “I’m mad! I’m really mad!”

posted at 3:50 pm on October 9, 2008 by Allahpundit

Fox cut away at the end right before the next questioner pressed McCain on Obama’s associations. Read Ben Smith to see how that went; the boss is underwhelmed. I watched a bit from earlier in the townhall while cutting the clip and what McCain says here is true — people were yelling about ACORN during every pause. He finally gratifies them with a little outrage near the end.

Note his preface to those comments, though: “We’ve got to act together because all of us are Americans first.” I get the sense Maverick’s not entirely thrilled with the tone these events have taken. As I write this, the Dow’s down 650 and counting.


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Speaking of bumper stickers, I’ve seen plenty for Obama. The odd thing is they are all on SUVs. Didn’t Obama have something to say about people who drive SUVs? – 18-1 on October 9, 2008 at 9:08 PM

So did V.I. Lenin: “Useful Idiots”

ManlyRash on October 9, 2008 at 9:29 PM

I get the sense Maverick’s not entirely thrilled with the tone these events have taken.

I would not be surprised that thy guy who yelled “Kill em” today when McCain mention Obama ( I didn’t hear this,, but Colmes just referred to this on Hannity and Colmes) was a Dem plant.
I think McCain and Palin need to prepare for Obama supporters showing up and yelling threatening and nutty things about Obama, so the media can use it in prime time to taint these crowds!
McCain should have corrected who ever yelled that,, he could have done it while not stopping the enthusiasm.

JellyToast on October 9, 2008 at 9:37 PM

Nice to see this coming from Wisconsin. The first 30 seconds is the best McCain ad I’ve (not yet) seen.

Marcus on October 9, 2008 at 9:42 PM

Give that guy a campaign manager and have him run for SOMETHING. I love the passion.

Mojave Mark on October 9, 2008 at 9:49 PM

I would not be surprised that thy guy who yelled “Kill em” today when McCain mention Obama ( I didn’t hear this,, but Colmes just referred to this on Hannity and Colmes) was a Dem plant.

Lot of Dem plants here in Dallas when the Cowboys play the Redskins or Eagles.
(more hypersensitive BS – “McCain should have corrected” my butt, he should “correct” those who’s new tactic is to paint Governor Palin as a “racist”.)

Marcus on October 9, 2008 at 9:49 PM

So which FM are you beholden too because you clearly have an agenda of your own here.

highhopes on October 9, 2008 at 7:03 PM

I have no interest in any banks or lenders. I used to work in merchant banking and I used to create and trade derivatives. I understand how they work when used properly. If you are not using them to offset risk… and you use them to create wealth… they will ruin you. Bad mortgages… even at 10% default do not cause this kind of chaos… it is the underlying derivatives which have pushed the system over the edge. The bank industry is having to look at assets the way tech businesses had to look at revenue after the dot com bubble went. Fannie and Freddie messed up… but to blame what is happening on them is absurd and it may fly with people who don’t understand the way money works but it anyone with a modest understanding knows that this was the result of much more widespread and systemic issues and none of it was illegal or because of any deliberate corruption.

lexhamfox on October 9, 2008 at 9:53 PM

Someone needs to remind Sen. McCain that al Qaeda was not the first terror organization to attack the Pentagon.

He has let two subjects slip through his hands and they were game-changers. First was Palin: she should have been running hard in the Rust Belt and Appalachia and been on every local radio and news program she could get to. Obama has zero counter to that.

Second was the bailout: ‘Mavericks’ bust things up and bust out of corrals that are weak. America doesn’t need to bailout our politicians, it needs accountable government. When unaccountable organizations not in the Constitution run amuck you don’t ‘reform them’ save to shred them and knock them down. That ‘reforms’ things in a most excellent manner by clearing out the dead wood that is rotting.

Now he is letting chance number three slip through his hands. He will not go after terrorists if he will not go after Bill Ayers and his malevolent influence on American culture and Chicago politics.

Apparently Sen. McCain doesn’t want the job of President, but that of Chief Bipartisan.

ajacksonian on October 9, 2008 at 10:00 PM

Just watched the clip on Hannity & Colmes about the guy at the McCain rally who told McCain, “I’m begging you to go after Obama”. He was black!

Go after Obama, Mac, and you wouldn’t be racist!

Steve Z on October 9, 2008 at 10:09 PM

“I’m begging you to go after Obama”. He was black!

I’ve read he is a conservative radio-host, so the lib-speak is while being “black”, he’s not “black”.

Marcus on October 9, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Congressional Record, Vol. 109
88th Congress, 1st Session
Appendix Pages A1-A2842
Jan. 9-May 7, 1963

(from the book)
“The Naked Communist” by: W. Cleon Skousen
Salt Lake City, Utah: Ensign Publishing Co.
C. 1961 , 9th edition July 1961.

Maxx on October 9, 2008 at 9:04 PM

I have this book. I was actually browsing through it last night.

I highly recommend everyone to add this to their library.

Saltysam on October 9, 2008 at 10:13 PM

OT: Phillies take the lead (3 – 2) with two homers in the bottom of the 6th !! The crowd goes wild….

gxpgxp on October 9, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Why has HA failed to post McCain naming names today at Wausheka, Wisconson.

Here’s the audio.

Saltysam on October 9, 2008 at 10:25 PM

Saltysam on October 9, 2008 at 10:25 PM

Monkey waiters need their attention, too.

You know. Important things.

lorien1973 on October 9, 2008 at 10:34 PM

Fannie and Freddie messed up… but to blame what is happening on them is absurd and it may fly with people who don’t understand the way money works but it anyone with a modest understanding knows that this was the result of much more widespread and systemic issues and none of it was illegal or because of any deliberate corruption.

lexhamfox on October 9, 2008 at 9:53 PM

To exclusively blame the FM’s is absurd but so to is your contention that they only have a bit part in this drama. Again, friend, what’s your real agenda. I’m not buying what you are selling and have enough knowledge of the real situation to know when you are pulling wool. Fess up.

highhopes on October 9, 2008 at 10:52 PM

Much of the blame probably can be laid at the feet of our so-called Department of Justice which has been out to lunch since about 1992.

Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson plus Bawney Fwank, Chris Dodd and other dirtbags likely would never have tried what they did had they not felt assured they could completely get away with it.

viking01 on October 9, 2008 at 11:01 PM

Republicans lost their slim chance to win this election when Wall Street collapsed. Conservatives never had a chance. Republicans nominated a democrat in McCain. President Bush took too long to find the right way to handle Iraq. Saving Iraq at the cost of freedom in the US is a lousy.

Please all of you who cheered for the mess that is Iraq and supported John McCain, PISS OFF! Leave the Republican party to conservatives.

doufree on October 9, 2008 at 11:21 PM

Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson plus Bawney Fwank, Chris Dodd and other dirtbags likely would never have tried what they did had they not felt assured they could completely get away with it.

viking01 on October 9, 2008 at 11:01 PM

They always get away with it. That’s why government involvement in free markets is a disaster. Free people, and the companies they organize, make mistakes and commit crimes, and occasionally they escape justice, but at least they stop doing things that are unprofitable. Government responds to failure with renewed effort and increased funding, extracted from taxpayers. Barney Frank will be there forever, and he is utterly above the law – he doesn’t even have to stop appearing on talk shows and holding forth on the financial industry.

The scariest thing about Democrats having unfettered control of the government is the absolute certainty that they will do the same crap again, only worse. They don’t learn from mistakes – they make them again, only more vigorously.

Doctor Zero on October 9, 2008 at 11:26 PM

Speaking of bumper stickers, I’ve seen plenty for Obama. The odd thing is they are all on SUVs. Didn’t Obama have something to say about people who drive SUVs? – 18-1 on October 9, 2008 at 9:08 PM

So did V.I. Lenin: “Useful Idiots”

Got one better than that — someone driving an SUV who works at a defense plant. Scratch that, at a defense plant that designs & builds [unproven] missile defense systems and contributes designs to future combat systems.

Yep, people are really *that* dumb.

AZfederalist on October 9, 2008 at 11:28 PM

Marcus on October 9, 2008 at 10:12 PM

He is a great american. Look at his history, he was always a consertative but not always a radio host.

Gracelynn on October 9, 2008 at 11:39 PM

Doctor Zero on October 9, 2008 at 11:26 PM

Agreed. Once upon a time I remember there were some in the GOP like Alan Simpson who pulled no punches and did not hesitate to give shameless Democrat hacks like Nina (Anita Hill) Totenberg and her unctuous ilk ulcers and fits. Nowadays those seem to have been replaced by so many Senator Lugars who keep grinning at the camera no matter what BS has been said or crisis discussed.

viking01 on October 9, 2008 at 11:56 PM

Marine_Bio on October 9, 2008 at 8:32 PM
Another good part of the trip was seeing $2.99/gal. Gas.

Fires1 on October 10, 2008 at 12:18 AM

This is why he’s going to lose.

McCain plays team USA, and Obama plays team Obama.

drjohn on October 9, 2008 at 3:56 PM

So often at these rallies I here the McCain/Palin crowd scream USA but at he Obama rallies it usually O-bam-A.

Coincidence?

Yakko77 on October 10, 2008 at 1:03 AM

I would not be surprised that thy guy who yelled “Kill em” today when McCain mention Obama ( I didn’t hear this,, but Colmes just referred to this on Hannity and Colmes) was a Dem plant.
I think McCain and Palin need to prepare for Obama supporters showing up and yelling threatening and nutty things about Obama, so the media can use it in prime time to taint these crowds!

JellyToast on October 9, 2008 at 9:37 PM

Exactly. That was my first thought when the MSM suddenly started talking about the “angry” Palin rallies in FL the other day.

Mr. Wednesday Night on October 10, 2008 at 3:10 AM

Mav has no problem taking on the religious right but not the far-left loons! Dear god how did we nominate this guy!

lodge on October 9, 2008 at 4:15 PM

We didn’t… a bunch of “moderates” + goading from the MSM = McCain as the GOP candidate.

GOP wanted to run against Hillary, Dems wanted to run against McCain. Dem engineering worked, GOP (barely) didn’t.

electric-rascal on October 10, 2008 at 4:09 AM

Mav has no problem taking on the religious right but not the far-left loons! Dear god how did we nominate this guy!

lodge on October 9, 2008 at 4:15 PM

Because the self-professed conservatives who say they are Republicans second found out the hard way there is no such thing as a perfect candidate. Combine that with a real myopia and disrepect about/toward the larger number of GOP voters in the “dreaded” moderate category and presto! you have McCain.
McCain didn’t “take on” the religious right — just asked the extremists to act like adults and have some civility for the greater good of the party.
But in the narrow world of the “perfect conservative” this position is unacceptable because “hey I’m a conservative first and a Republican second”.

Bradky on October 10, 2008 at 6:25 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csthf_CQsjo

Conservative_SAHM on October 10, 2008 at 8:47 AM

What I noticed is McCain turning away when this gentleman started his comments.

If McCain were half the leader we would like him to be……

OH CRAP – I just don’t like having to vote for McCain.

jake-the-goose on October 10, 2008 at 8:54 AM

Bradky on October 10, 2008 at 6:25 AM

What a fool you are. You blame conservatives? Lol, ok. Look, he was simply the last man standing, the most recognizable figure, the establishment endorsed Republican. There was a 3 way split in the vote in important states.

See how easy that was, and I didn’t even blame the liberals in the GOP such as yourself. Pretty easy huh! :)

We are doing our best to push your candidate over the finish line, there is no need to start an intraparty war now, because if he loses it will be because of people like yourself who are unwilling to unite and look forward.

We must win!

True_King on October 10, 2008 at 8:59 AM

“Please all of you who cheered for the mess that is Iraq and supported John McCain, PISS OFF! Leave the Republican party to conservatives.”
doufree on October 9, 2008

I am a true conservative who happened to support Iraq and I believe it went as well as can be expected. This was and is a REAL war, not a simple one operation “action” that we had become acustomed to. We had to learn how to beat an insurgency as there were not any tried and true methods for doing so.

I also believed the war was inevitible. I’d rather get it over with than to have continued wasting efforts at containment.

My real anger is towards old Europe who profited from the UN sanctions regime while watching the US/UK do the heavy lifting and abandoned us when the war became hot. I also do not think WMD should have been the causus beli. It should have been a resumption of the first Gulf War due to lengthy violations of several resolutions that had “severe consequences” promised should they be violated.

Goodeye_Closed on October 10, 2008 at 9:08 AM

My real anger is towards old Europe who profited from the UN sanctions regime while watching the US/UK do the heavy lifting and abandoned us when the war became hot. I also do not think WMD should have been the causus beli. It should have been a resumption of the first Gulf War due to lengthy violations of several resolutions that had “severe consequences” promised should they be violated.

Goodeye_Closed on October 10, 2008 at 9:08 AM

The principal reason for the failure of liberal foreign policy is their refusal to admit that savages exist, or deal with them accordingly. The sacred tenets of multiculturalism dictate that every nation is at least equal to the United States, and if they seem markedly backward or hostile, it is because we are too bigoted to see them clearly.

All of Obama’s foreign policy positions make perfect sense if you keep this in mind: 9/11 was bad, but we had it coming (as his friend Ayers maintains) and it wouldn’t have happened again, because terrorists are reasonable people and they made their point with that single attack. Saddam would have been weeks away from reaching a reasonable accomodation with the West, if a skilled, charismatic leader steeped in liberal multicultural principles had been negotiating with him, instead of conservative neocon cowboys. Iran will surely respond to such negotiations. The Iraq War was, therefore, both a terrible waste and a crime, perpetrated against a peaceful kite-flying people.

This is also why liberals were perfectly OK with bombing Serbia, and have never expressed even momentary concern about collateral damage. White-skinned fascists are the only enemy they are prepared to consider morally inferior to America, even Republican America, and can therefore be bombed from 50,000 feet. Decades-long military deployments against such foes are not even worth mentioning, never mind protesting against.

Europe, like any other long-term, multi-generational welfare recipient, is very insecure about its relationship with its protector and economic provider, the United States. If they get the President they want, and the U.S. economy that enables their socialist policies continues to slide, or they require military protection, they will suddenly become very nostalgic for Republican governance. Nobody is more hostile and bitter than a welfare recipient receiving a lecture from one of the taxpayers that feeds him, but that bitterness turns to sugar very quickly when the gravy train is threatened.

Doctor Zero on October 10, 2008 at 10:38 AM

Everything is fine here. No need to panic. Must not think bad thoughts.

Angry Dumbo on October 10, 2008 at 10:40 AM

Rasmussen:

A majority of voters (52%) favor John McCain’s plan for the federal government to buy up distressed mortgages and refinance them so homeowners can stay in their homes, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Thirty-five percent (35%) oppose the plan.

Democrats like McCain’s plan more than Republicans, even though Barack Obama opposes it. Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Democratic voters think it’s a good idea, compared to 47% of Republicans – and 49% of unaffiliated voters.

Seventy percent (70%) of African-American voters favor McCain’s plan, as do 50% of white voters.

Vashta.Nerada on October 10, 2008 at 1:45 PM

This is definitely a historic time… I wonder (if the world survives) what historians will say. Is this the end of the founder’s democracy? Just a blip? The end of free market capitialism, even though it was government messing with captitalism that caused it? Or will there be some acknowlegement that you can’t legislate away proverty without making everyone poor?

In the short run the socialist will win. But in the long run? There is bound to be some true anaysis. Well if freedom endures if not the socialist win everything and this is the end of history.

petunia on October 10, 2008 at 1:56 PM

Multiply that fella’s comment with the silent majority in this country. People are upset. Sad thing is, too many of them put their faith in the faux media and follow them like cattle. And the media, they can’t control anything because they didn’t build a movement. All of these conservative talk show hosts; Michael Savage, Rush Limbo, Sean Hannity, those numbskulls with all their tens of millions of listeners they didn’t do anything! They didn’t build a movement on the ground! All they did with all the money and all the support, and all the huge following that they got; you know what they did with it? THEY ENRICHED THEMSELVES! People need to wake up. All these other phony, hypocrite fools DO NOT represent the silent majority of this country — people like this man complaining in the video.

apacalyps on October 10, 2008 at 2:57 PM

All of these conservative talk show hosts; Michael Savage, Rush Limbo, Sean Hannity, those numbskulls with all their tens of millions of listeners they didn’t do anything! They didn’t build a movement on the ground!

apacalyps on October 10, 2008 at 2:57 PM

Agree that we need some organizing, but you’re being a little rough on the talk show hosts. They’re not going to be able to put together thousands of grassroots organizations in towns and cities across the country.

That’s what community organizers are for.

They say the Devi’s best trick was convincing people he didn’t exist. The liberal’s best trick was convincing conservatives that other conservatives don’t exist.

Doctor Zero on October 10, 2008 at 3:14 PM

I was at the townhall at Waukesha yesterday, and there were occasional shouts of “ACORN”, but I didn’t think anyone was ill-mannered, in fact, people were quite polite in the crowd. I certainly didn’t hear any threatening remarks directed to Obama, though it was, obviously, a very partisan crowd. The article that’s up on Drudge, from the Washington Post, is a bunch of hogwash about the crowd being an angry mob. Quite the opposite, I was impressed with such a huge gathering being so mannerly, and I was also standing outside when the buses and security left, and there were some jokes made in the crowd about the press, but I didn’t see anyone doing the one fingered peace sign. A lady in one press bus was waving, and everyone around me was quite happy to wave back, and some of us were photographing her as she was taking our picture.
The guy who asked Sen. McCain to speak out against socialism was certainly very impassioned, and everyone was applauding him and shouting in approval, it was a very rousing moment, not an angry mob type of thing. And Sen. McCain handled the whole thing well, and I’m hoping he’ll listen to the guy’s advice.
I didn’t hear anyone complaining or angry after the townhall, everyone around me seemed upbeat and energized, with new hope for victory on election day. There wasn’t enough seating for everyone, and I was in the group standing in the back. Some people left before the townhall was over, it was hot and difficult to see McCain and Palin, even on the monitors they had set up for us. So maybe only the most committed McCain/Palin backers stayed to the end, I don’t know. I don’t agree with Sen. McCain on everything, but I was very impressed with him and Gov. Palin, and am looking forward to voting for him.

Mulligan on October 10, 2008 at 3:39 PM

Bradky on October 10, 2008 at 6:25 AM

I simply reject your assertions. The Republican party has reached ALL of its recent success by being Conservative. Please notice the big C there. The values of Reagan brought the country into the arms of the Republicans. The rantings of Ross Perot showed more conservative legs in the populace. The Contract with America produced a good stretch of Republican control in Congress.

It is when the Republicans turned from their conservative values that they started to have problems. Lack of spending discipline and too much political meandering has created the disaffection with Republicans. The poster boy for the Neo-cons, G.W. Bush has devastated the Republican identity with his lame attempts to out-liberal the Democrats.

Let me make this clear. The people who like liberal philosophy and government are already Democrats. They identify themselves as Democrats and will vote that way even if they run a conservative Dem against a liberal Republican. To them party loyalty is a religion. Just like it seems to be preached among some of the Republicans here.

The Reagan Democrat is the “moderate” voter that you seem to be referring to. Yet they supported a President who was unabashed and unapologetic about being conservative. The power of the Republican party is the conservative base not the imagined mass of moderates. Every time we try to be moderate we lose. We need to be distinct in our identity as an alternative ideology to the Democrats. We need to stop trying to find a niche as Democrat Light.

Hawthorne on October 10, 2008 at 6:25 PM

Every time we try to be moderate we lose. We need to be distinct in our identity as an alternative ideology to the Democrats. We need to stop trying to find a niche as Democrat Light.

Hawthorne on October 10, 2008 at 6:25 PM

You have it wrong. Every time the GOP tries to be ideological purists they lose. As for the Reagan Dems they are moderate but that doesn’t mean they were in total agreement with Reagan on every issue.
The reason why “Big C conservatives” don’t form their own party is that they know they will never win without the voters in the middle. If they are truly such purists and ideologically superior why don’t the “Big C’s” go form their own party? Answer: Recognizing they have nowhere near the numbers to be a viable third party they want the moderates to be useful idiots who will give them their vote but never have the mutual respect afforded to them.
Kind of like the loonie left and its treatment of left of center Dems – check that, exactly like the loonie left.

This is not the party of Reagan anymore and it has to do with the far right wing’s inflexibility.

Bradky on October 11, 2008 at 5:16 AM

The gentleman expressed the majority view of what is taking place in this country, “byte by byte”. Senator McCain’s remarks were meant to assure McCain disclaimed any attempt by the left and media to attack him for being a racist. He does continue to slam Obombem’s policies of socialism, is the right approach considering Obombem’s popularity with the majority of minorities.

Stating the facts of Obombem’s socialist associations and actions will bring those voters who are sitting on the fence and facing economic problems back to reality.

Obombem’s base is based on support from those who have been re-educated in a socialist based school system that DEM politicians have created. Those who are from broken homes the socialist DEM politicians created to maintain a base of voters dependent on them for their handout.

Now DEM politicians are working hard to gain control of their oppositions banks so they can control where our money goes and what it is used on.

McCain was right in not attacking Obombem personally, but staying on message about what DEM politicians are going to do to you if we do not raise up on Nov. 4th and tell DEM Politicians “We are mad as Hell, and are not going to take it anymore”. Get your friends (living, legal, and livid) to vote in the right place and the right time. Do not let DEM politicians allow their Acorn’s to take root who will vote early, often, and under many names (living and dead).

MSGTAS on October 11, 2008 at 10:12 AM

The real danger in the current political, financial and ideological turmoil and war is that millions upon millions of people are losing faith and confidence in this government and its ability to function on their behalf. These are indeed dire times for the Republic and its chances for survival.

rplat on October 11, 2008 at 10:13 AM

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