McCain: Just a reminder that Hillary thought Ayers was relevant, too

posted at 5:30 pm on October 9, 2008 by Allahpundit

Clever and overdue if he’s going to persist with this line of attack, which remains an open question given his bizarre shifting rhetoric about it. But now that Her Majesty’s been redeemed as a good Democratic soldier and the new feminist pope, let’s do mention the fact that she had no qualms jumping on this subject when Stephanopoulos brought it up at the debate in April. True to Clintonian form, she pawned it off on Republicans by saying that the issue had to be addressed then because it would surely be addressed later in the general election, but watch the video of the exchange and relish how she supplies a few inconvenient details about The One’s working relationship with Ayers that he magically “forgot” in his own answer. If the media’s going to demagogue McCain as a racist for broaching this subject, by all means, bring Hillary and her Absolute Moral Authority along on the trip.

And judging from some of the related attacks floating around now, that’s going to be some trip. Click the image to watch.

Update: Here’s the full transcript. This didn’t make the video preview but it should have:

GIBSON: You didn’t raise that, this argument, this argument, or line of argument, at the debate the other night. And I asked Sen. Obama about that yesterday. He said yeah, I’m surprised that John didn’t say that to my face.

MCCAIN: Again, two things I’ve never been accused of lacking. And one is passion, and the other is courage. I mean, I can accept a lot of the other criticisms. It didn’t come up in the flow of the conversation.


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Where’s Kasey Kasem, because the hits just keep on comin’.

Bishop on October 9, 2008 at 5:32 PM

Hillary has already been attacked as a racist, Billy Jeff said so.

Done.

Mcguyver on October 9, 2008 at 5:33 PM

Geez Louise, this is getting tiresome. Let’s talk about something useful.

ballz2wallz on October 9, 2008 at 5:33 PM

Question is: how many of these coincidences need to be strung together before the ‘safe alternative’ theory no longer applies to the socialist? Its just a coincidence that I hung around with Ayers, and Pfleger, and Wright, and worked for ACORN, and have paid ACORN, and was a member of the New Party, and, and…….

Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2008 at 5:34 PM

and was a member of the New Party, and, and…….

Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2008 at 5:34 PM

…and two of my campaign team were Fannie Mae officials, and I voted against reining in Fannie, and I fought against the Infant Born Alive Protection Act, and, and…

(everyone join in)

Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2008 at 5:37 PM

we need Bubba to unendorse Obama over some ‘new info’ soon

jp on October 9, 2008 at 5:37 PM

Doesn’t matter. That was the “old” Hillary. Now Hillary has become Obama’s biggest lover who wouldn’t care if he played basketball with Stalin and Pol Pot.

Speedwagon82 on October 9, 2008 at 5:37 PM

This is hilarious. The repeaters have decided that this is the “swift boat” issue of this campaign and “they are not going let the Republicans get away with it.” But the more publicity they give to it, the more people are going to start finding out on their own just how bizarre Barack Obama’s history is.

rockmom on October 9, 2008 at 5:37 PM

McCain needs to tie this to the economy and he can do so by emphasizing how much money Obama blew with Ayers on Ayers’s nutty educational agenda.

He has to do that.

BuckeyeSam on October 9, 2008 at 5:38 PM

Just a reminder that Hillary thought Ayers was relevant, too

Yeah, and look what happened to her….

I used to think this was a good line of attack, but that was when this was a normal election season.

jimmy the notable on October 9, 2008 at 5:38 PM

ballz2wallz on October 9, 2008 at 5:33 PM

okay–what’ve you got?

ACORN intends to steal several states with blatant voter fraud, and is in the process of doing just that. That’s important to ME

Janos Hunyadi on October 9, 2008 at 5:38 PM

Michelle O had a campaign spot…er, interview on Larry King and said oh, yeah, Barack worked with Ayers on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

No follow up. Larry not interested.

I guess Barack just forgot. Or it was a distraction.

PattyJ on October 9, 2008 at 5:39 PM

Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2008 at 5:34 PM

I hear you, but who’s going to do it in the MSM? Fox and Rush are mainly preaching to the choir and the others, if they touch anything negative about Obama at all, quickly let it disappear down the memory hole. Who can join all these dots?

Fortunata on October 9, 2008 at 5:39 PM

and…….

Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2008 at 5:34 PM

and my corrupt dem pals just ate your retirement account, and half your equity in your house.

Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2008 at 5:39 PM

BuckeyeSam on October 9, 2008 at 5:38 PM

Why do bloggers have better advice than McCain’s own campaign?

lorien1973 on October 9, 2008 at 5:40 PM

ACORN intends to steal several states with blatant voter fraud, and is in the process of doing just that. That’s important to ME

Uh…it’s important to me too. I have a keen interest in not seeing our voting process become that which “elected” Saddam Hussein.

Bishop on October 9, 2008 at 5:41 PM

what the..

Bishop on October 9, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Who can join all these dots?

Fortunata on October 9, 2008 at 5:39 PM

dem approval has been dropping like a rock for the past three days. All we have to do is keep getting the word out, privately if necessary.

Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2008 at 5:41 PM

It didn’t come up in the flow of the conversation.

Boy, he really needs to take lessons from Sarah Palin.

Tom_Shipley on October 9, 2008 at 5:42 PM

MCCAIN: Again, two things I’ve never been accused of lacking. And one is passion, and the other is courage.

Except apparantly by Biden, Obama himself, Kos (not mincing words), and a bunch of other Leftwingos.

Abby Adams on October 9, 2008 at 5:42 PM

It didn’t come up in the flow of the conversation.

Boy, he really needs to take lessons from Sarah Palin.

Tom_Shipley on October 9, 2008 at 5:42 PM

One never should do what the enemy expects – Sun Tzu

Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2008 at 5:43 PM

The Obamachine stopped Hillary. We don’t need the MSM. In fact, I believe Drudge, Rush, Fox, Hannity, Levine, O’reilly, Hot Air, etc. ARE the NEW MAIN STREAM MEDIA. We need to come up with another name for the msnbc, cbs, abc,cnn and all that trash.

bloggless on October 9, 2008 at 5:43 PM

Perfect set up. Obama challenges McCain to talk about these things to his face at the debate. McCain does. Obama gets his 30 minutes bought air time to gloss over all the facts revealed. Then McCain should purchase his 30 minutes air time immediately after Obama and level the charges again, pointing out all Obama had not answered during his air time.

Oleta on October 9, 2008 at 5:43 PM

We need to come up with another name for the msnbc, cbs, abc,cnn and all that trash.

bloggless on October 9, 2008 at 5:43 PM

It’s known as the obsolete media, by those in the industry behind the scenes.

Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2008 at 5:44 PM

Bill Ayers is a mainstream education reformer and English professor and is just trying to bring you things such as this little gem.

Why are you all so mean to him?

Abby Adams on October 9, 2008 at 5:46 PM

new NC poll has Obama up 5

Obama 48, McCain 43, Barr 2, undecided 7.
Civitas Poll

Key is how they picked Party ID:

The party ID breakdown in today’s poll: 47 % Dem., 34 GOP, 19 independent.

N.C. Board of Elections registration numbers this morning: 45% D, 32 R, 22 I.

Party ID and Registration are two very differnent things. They are Push polling for Obama out there. NC has tons of Registered Dems who’d never vote for Obama or a Democrat.

jp on October 9, 2008 at 5:46 PM

This will not get any traction with voters. He should talk about the economy and come up with well thought out arguments for his plan instead of making irrelevant attacks about associations while ‘Rome’ burns.

lexhamfox on October 9, 2008 at 5:47 PM

NC has tons of Registered Dems who’d never vote for Obama or a Democrat.

jp on October 9, 2008 at 5:46 PM

How are the pollsters accounting for the hundreds of thousands of people like me, who registered as dems this year in order to keep the dem primary going? I didn’t think so.

Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2008 at 5:48 PM

We need to come up with another name for the msnbc, cbs, abc,cnn and all that trash.

bloggless on October 9, 2008 at 5:43 PM

I agree. How about ‘DoucheBag Media’? Too crude?

“A++hole Media”? Accurate, but still too crude?

How about just ignoring them, and watching them wither on the vine?

Janos Hunyadi on October 9, 2008 at 5:48 PM

Bill Ayers is a mainstream education reformer and English professor and is just trying to bring you things such as this little gem.

Say what you want, but the cheerleader tryouts will be amazing.

Jim Treacher on October 9, 2008 at 5:48 PM

Yeah, and look what happened to her….

I used to think this was a good line of attack, but that was when this was a normal election season.

jimmy the notable on October 9, 2008 at 5:38 PM

She started winning, and winning big after she brought up the Ayers and Wright stuff.

and Bambi cancelled the final two debates against her after she brought up the Ayers and Wright stuff

It was too late because of all the crazy caucus wins where the race card worked to guilt liberals into voting for Obama.

This is now a general election, not a democrat primary. The suicidal white guilt liberals won’t have their minds changed by Obama’s hideous past, but normal people will at least do a double take and think …

Again, check out the PUMAs:
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/10/07/the-bomber-as-school-reformer/

funky chicken on October 9, 2008 at 5:49 PM

This will not get any traction with voters. He should talk about the economy and come up with well thought out arguments for his plan instead of making irrelevant attacks about associations while ‘Rome’ burns.

Which you’re saying because you want McCain to win, right?

Jim Treacher on October 9, 2008 at 5:50 PM

Bill Clinton endorses McCain in 4, 3, 2, 1….

ConservativePartyNow on October 9, 2008 at 5:51 PM

Man, that John McCain. He’s fired up, ain’t he? I mean, I expect him to cut lose with a string of profanities just any second now, he’s so into this election.

To paraphrase Bob Dole: Where’s the pique?

misterpeasea on October 9, 2008 at 5:51 PM

lexhamfox on October 9, 2008 at 5:47 PM

misterpeasea on October 9, 2008 at 5:51 PM

I love it when trolls damn McCain with lame faint praise and crappy advice

Janos Hunyadi on October 9, 2008 at 5:53 PM

The Philadephia debate was the greatest ass-kicking of The Messiah I’ve ever seen (except for maybe Rudy’s speech)

I’m gonna have to play it to console myself when he becomes our Dear Leader

lodge on October 9, 2008 at 5:54 PM

Oh by the way, WHERE ARE THE CLINTONS??? Campaigning for Obama? I haven’t seen hide nor hair of them. They are campaigning as hard for Obama as OJ was looking for his wife’s murderer on golf courses.

Brat on October 9, 2008 at 5:54 PM

For those who think this will not matter

Think Again

Voters cared about Bush’s DWI from decades before – this October surprise moved votes to Gore

Exactly how is the more current Obama/Ayres/Acorn/Etc connections not going to move votes to McCain.

The Obama camp is attempting to whistle past the graveyard of the dead voters Acorn registered for him. May work for the most committed Obamabots but it will not for the undecideds.

ordi on October 9, 2008 at 5:54 PM

holy shiite, that NRSC ad in the sidebar is sceery.

of course Al Franken is sceery.

I’m off to make a teensy donation, or perhaps not so teensy.

funky chicken on October 9, 2008 at 5:54 PM

Jim Treacher on October 9, 2008 at 5:48 PM

I think you meant to say, “amaaaaaaaazing“.

Abby Adams on October 9, 2008 at 5:54 PM

Can they tie Obambi’s terrorist mentor to ACORN? If they can then it’s a great tie-in to expose the fraud being done by ACORN in voter registrations. If they’re linked keep pounding away non-stop.

Another thing – I hope McCain, the Rep. party and the 527s are figuring out ways to counter Obambi’s half hour on TV. If not, this could get even uglier.

rigdown on October 9, 2008 at 5:55 PM

Janos Hunyadi on October 9, 2008 at 5:53 PM

I want McCain to get some balls about him, and I’m a troll like the guy who wants to talk about health care?

Check.

misterpeasea on October 9, 2008 at 5:55 PM

ordi on October 9, 2008 at 5:54 PM

That analogy only works if:

This wasn’t known about since the primaries; and McCain sprang it on everyone the friday before the election.

Then it would be similar. But, it’s known about. And apparently at least 50% of the country isn’t bugged by it.

lorien1973 on October 9, 2008 at 5:57 PM

NC has many voter registration people roaming the streets asking kids as young as 15 years old if they are registered. This is disgusting.

bloggless on October 9, 2008 at 5:59 PM

This will not get any traction with voters. He should talk about the economy and come up with well thought out arguments for his plan instead of making irrelevant attacks about associations while ‘Rome’ burns.

lexhamfox on October 9, 2008 at 5:47 PM

Together, Obama and Ayers blew $161 million in grant money on Ayers’s radical “direct action” ideological programs, when the money should have been spent to improve Chicago schools. They accomplished nothing. Do you really think that will have no effect on voters who are looking for a president who won’t blow tax money on ideological nonsense? We can’t afford a president tied to ideological agendas.

This is the key thing with Ayers; it exposes what a careless steward Obama is with the money of other people.

BuckeyeSam on October 9, 2008 at 5:59 PM

I love it when trolls damn McCain with lame faint praise and crappy advice

Janos Hunyadi on October 9, 2008 at 5:53 PM

lol, yep, it’s been a long time favorite of mine as well.

funky chicken on October 9, 2008 at 5:59 PM

misterpeasea on October 9, 2008 at 5:55 PM

you complain about everything McCain does and doesn’t do.

check yourself regarding ‘balls’, then come up with something useful and specific

Janos Hunyadi on October 9, 2008 at 6:00 PM

Then it would be similar. But, it’s known about. And apparently at least 50% of the country isn’t bugged by it.

lorien1973 on October 9, 2008 at 5:57 PM

Where’d you get that 50% number? Hillary was killing Obama in the primaries after she raised this issue.

ordi on October 9, 2008 at 6:00 PM

Screwed that up. Didn’t mean to quote myself.

JammieWearingFool on October 9, 2008 at 6:00 PM

First the $300 billion bailout for “victims” that bought houses they couldn’t afford.
A Hillary idea, according to McCain’s campaign (Black).
Second, this.

WTF is going on? Are we going to ask Hillary if we can unleash the Acorn/Khalid surprise?

HornetSting on October 9, 2008 at 6:00 PM

misterpeasea on October 9, 2008 at 5:55 PM

dude, we remember your posts over the past 6 months. you can’t stand McCain, haven’t been able to stand McCain since way back in the primaries.

funky chicken on October 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM

JammieWearingFool on October 9, 2008 at 5:57 PM

Mushroom cloud! Thanks for linking that.

Brat on October 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM

misterpeasea on October 9, 2008 at 5:55 PM

you complain about everything McCain does and doesn’t do.
check yourself regarding ‘balls’, then come up with something useful and specific
Janos Hunyadi on October 9, 2008 at 6:00 PM

Do you know who he wants to win the election this november?

wise_man on October 9, 2008 at 6:02 PM

Oh yeah, and it always makes so much sense to question John McCain’s courage. Because all of these trolls and astroturfers are REAL MEN, where John McCain is just a wimp.

funky chicken on October 9, 2008 at 6:04 PM

dude, we remember your posts over the past 6 months. you can’t stand McCain, haven’t been able to stand McCain since way back in the primaries.

funky chicken on October 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM

Dammit Chicken. No, McCain was not many people’s first choice. We are allowed to speak against McCain, even if we are going to VOTE FOR HIM!

HornetSting on October 9, 2008 at 6:05 PM

ordi on October 9, 2008 at 6:00 PM

Oh I dunno. Just about every major poll.

lorien1973 on October 9, 2008 at 6:06 PM

JammieWearingFool on October 9, 2008 at 5:57 PM

Jammie, that is a very important video. I think the thing that is lost on so many Americans is that it is all connected. The economy, national security, voter fraud, AKORN. People need to realize that these issues are all connected to the same root cause.

bloggless on October 9, 2008 at 6:08 PM

That video should be viral, Jammie.

bloggless on October 9, 2008 at 6:09 PM

Party ID and Registration are two very differnent things. They are Push polling for Obama out there. NC has tons of Registered Dems who’d never vote for Obama or a Democrat.

jp on October 9, 2008 at 5:46 PM

Dare we call this invoking Operation Chaos: Part III?

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 9, 2008 at 6:10 PM

bloggless on October 9, 2008 at 5:43 PM

They’re pretty worthless, so Garbage Pail Kids fits.

m064404 on October 9, 2008 at 6:10 PM

What does that accomplish, HornetSting? I mean, after the primaries are over, and the election is down to just two people. What do you hope to accomplish. You can send his campaign an email to tell him what you want him to do.

Whats the difference when you ‘speak against McCain’ a month before the election, and the day before the election. And as some might think, I am not telling people to not speak against him, as some have tried to put into my mouth, but the question is – what are you hoping to accomplish.

wise_man on October 9, 2008 at 6:11 PM

That video should be viral, Jammie.

bloggless on October 9, 2008 at 6:09 PM

Let’s hope so. It had only a couple dozen visits when I received it. The Dems are going to freak out over that.

JammieWearingFool on October 9, 2008 at 6:12 PM

Oh I dunno. Just about every major poll.

lorien1973 on October 9, 2008 at 6:06 PM

Your point was that 50% of American’s did not care about this issue. At least that is what you argued when you stated:

That analogy only works if:

This wasn’t known about since the primaries; and McCain sprang it on everyone the friday before the election.

Then it would be similar. But, it’s known about. And apparently at least 50% of the country isn’t bugged by it.

Not that the polls were at or about 50% for Obama.

The American people are just starting to see how wide and deep Obama is with anti-American groups and people. Trust me they will and do care.

ordi on October 9, 2008 at 6:15 PM

I think McCain did a good job in the interview with Gibson–especially when he said that his plan for homeowners’ mortgages came out of money already approved for the bailout, and that helping homeowners with bad mortgages props up the values of their neighbors’ houses, even if the neighbors made their payments.

This is the difference between the two candidates: Obama talks about helping the middle class, McCain comes up with a concrete plan to help them, with funds already approved by Congress. Of course, Obama was AWOL during the bailout negotiations!

Charlie Gibson is an MSM guy, Palin’s first quizmaster. I hope a lot of undecided voters were watching this interview.

Steve Z on October 9, 2008 at 6:16 PM

That video should be viral, Jammie.

bloggless on October 9, 2008 at 6:09 PM
Let’s hope so. It had only a couple dozen visits when I received it. The Dems are going to freak out over that.

JammieWearingFool on October 9, 2008 at 6:12 PM

Thanks Jammie. Sent it to all my list. I hope the Dems choke on it.

HornetSting on October 9, 2008 at 6:16 PM

Whats the difference when you ’speak against McCain’ a month before the election, and the day before the election. And as some might think, I am not telling people to not speak against him, as some have tried to put into my mouth, but the question is – what are you hoping to accomplish.

wise_man on October 9, 2008 at 6:11 PM

Blowing off steam. This campaign needs to kick it up a notch, Wise. We are all voting for him, except a few tools that like to troll. Don’t cry, I will never speak ill against McCain. Evah.

HornetSting on October 9, 2008 at 6:21 PM

I think McCain did a good job in the interview with Gibson–especially when he said that his plan for homeowners’ mortgages came out of money already approved for the bailout, and that helping homeowners with bad mortgages props up the values of their neighbors’ houses, even if the neighbors made their payments.

***

Steve Z on October 9, 2008 at 6:16 PM

McCain has got to get the marbles out of his mouth and the rocks out of his head. When he moronically rolled this out at the debate, I could have sworn that he said that this $300 billion was in addition to the $700 billion bailout. And to the extent that McCain didn’t make it clear, he’s still got most of the country thinking he did. Obama is saying he did, and the media is not going to do anything to correct the story.

Why does he continually shoot himself in the foot like this?

BuckeyeSam on October 9, 2008 at 6:22 PM

HornetSting on October 9, 2008 at 6:21 PM

I promise not to cry if you promise not to never blow off steam again. (double negative? it’s okay. Blow off steam. I’m not trying to make you stop.)

wise_man on October 9, 2008 at 6:25 PM

Tu quoque

You just can’t control yourself…

Blake on October 9, 2008 at 6:26 PM

lorien1973 on October 9, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Because bloggers aren’t Washington insiders who have sold their soul to the devil and are in it to get as much money out of it as possible!

flytier on October 9, 2008 at 6:26 PM

Catch up, Mac. It’s ACORN ACORN ACORN!

Y-not on October 9, 2008 at 6:27 PM

(Side note: What does “tu quoque” have do to with this story? I think it’s gotten so overused at HotAir that it’s meaning has been lost.)

The reason this argument matters, even more than similar attacks in prior elections, is two-fold:
1) It pleases and stirs up the base;
2) At least as important, and in a way that overlaps the first point, it raises doubts about Obama at a time when the financial crisis and other insecurities mean that the choice of President is more important, not less: The next President may find himself with immense power and responsibilities, as the country searches for a way out of this mess.

We need leadership that we can trust, not that adds to our uncertainties. That’s one reason why McCain can’t appear to go overboard – angry, yes, but not out of control. Giving in to rage and making wild or wild-seeming attacks would tend to nullify the “risky” and “dangerous” arguments – thus the Obamanauts’ unrelenting efforst to brand McCain as “erratic” and “desperate.”

CK MacLeod on October 9, 2008 at 6:27 PM

Voter: Senator McCain it is such an honor to be here with both of you this morning. I am a realtor, witnessing first hand the effect the mortgage crisis has had on many people’s lives. Will you assure us, that as president, you will take immediate action to investigate, prosecute, and names the names of the people actually responsible [crowd goes crazy].

McCain: I will. And it is already a matter of record, that members, Democrat members of Congress, fought against reform, and it’s a matter of record in hearings that they said in hearings that everything was fine. Senator Obama said a year ago that these kinds of sub-prime loans were quote fine with him. And the fact is, that the same people that are now claiming credit for this rescue are the same ones that were willing co-conspirators in causing the problem that it is [crowd goes crazy]. And you know their names. And you will know more of their names – Congressman Barney Frank and Senator Chris Dodd [Booo] are two of them.

funky chicken on October 9, 2008 at 6:31 PM

JammieWearingFool on October 9, 2008 at 5:57 PM

Mushroom cloud! Thanks for linking that.

Brat on October 9, 2008 at 6:01 PM

My sentiments exactly. This should be a 527 ad ASAP! And add some of Obama’s words along with this ad. He said almost the identical things to Ayers after 9-11. During his European Vacation Tour, he slammed this nation and has maintained that theme throughout his campaign. Mega Thanks Jamie!

Oh, and Beckel was just on via a clip on Fox saying all this along with ACORN were silly moves on the part of the McCain camp. That means McCain camp needs to keep this up! He said it was a desperate move and funny thing Obama said the same thing to his audiences and to Gibson at ABC. Hmmmmm, me thinks we have struck gold. AND Gibson on Fox has dropped the Khalidi PLO bomb. Things are getting rather interesting out there.

freeus on October 9, 2008 at 6:32 PM

(Side note: What does “tu quoque” have do to with this story? I think it’s gotten so overused at HotAir that it’s meaning has been lost.)

I don’t even know what it meant to begin with….

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 9, 2008 at 6:35 PM

McCain could mention that while he was in a POW camp getting the s*it kicked out of him, Obama’s buddy and pal Ayers was plotting revolution.

Terrye on October 9, 2008 at 6:37 PM

Yeah, and look what happened to her….

I used to think this was a good line of attack, but that was when this was a normal election season.

jimmy the notable on October 9, 2008 at 5:38 PM

Yes, look at what happened to her when the bulk of the voters making the choice were the far left nutjobs. Ayers will NOT appeal to moderate voters of any stripe. Ayers does appeal to a significant portion of the moonbats.

CC

CapedConservative on October 9, 2008 at 6:45 PM

The Democrats have screwed the pooch so badly they’ve provided an amazingly rich target zone.

From the energy crisis to corrupt race pandering that’s crashing our economy to a radical liberalism/socialist takeover that our forefathers would consider to be domestic terrorism.

Its time for all an of the above, full court press, with help from everyone getting the facts out there.

Everybody grab arms in a circle, jump and kill! kill! kill! kill! kill!

Speakup on October 9, 2008 at 6:47 PM

There is an interesting article on American Thinker called Who Wrote Dreams of My Father. I read enough of Dreams to presume Obama didn’t write it, but the article writer has thoroughly analyzed it and he makes a persuasive case as to the real author (no word on who wrote Kennedy’s Profile in Courage). I won’t totally spoil the surprise, but I will give you a little hint: the purported author likes to stomp on the American flag.

flyfisher on October 9, 2008 at 6:53 PM

I don’t even know what it meant to begin with….

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 9, 2008 at 6:35 PM

“You, too.” It’s classically an accusation of hypocrisy – as in, “You also do what you’re criticizing others of doing, so why should I listen to your argument?” A subset of ad hominem. And, like I said, I’m not sure I see its relationship to the main topic – unless it’s just a very literal translation of the words, as in, “Hillary (you?) did it, so I can do it, too.”

CK MacLeod on October 9, 2008 at 6:58 PM

The Obamachine stopped Hillary. We don’t need the MSM. In fact, I believe Drudge, Rush, Fox, Hannity, Levine, O’reilly, Hot Air, etc. ARE the NEW MAIN STREAM MEDIA. We need to come up with another name for the msnbc, cbs, abc,cnn and all that trash.

bloggless on October 9, 2008 at 5:43 PM

OldStreamMedia? OSM? Kind of like Osama?

Buford Gooch on October 9, 2008 at 7:03 PM

Together, Obama and Ayers blew $161 million in grant money on Ayers’s radical “direct action” ideological programs, when the money should have been spent to improve Chicago schools. They accomplished nothing. Do you really think that will have no effect on voters who are looking for a president who won’t blow tax money on ideological nonsense? We can’t afford a president tied to ideological agendas.

This is the key thing with Ayers; it exposes what a careless steward Obama is with the money of other people.

Don’t forget that one of the radical groups that benefited from the money that Barry and the bomber were handing out was ACORN and they used it to not only to attempt to radicalize the school children of Chicago but also to conduct blackmail campaigns against financial institutions to get them to push through dodgy sub prime housing loans for the poor and to conduct massive electoral fraud.

Its all connected people you just have to join all of the dots.

Dreadnought223 on October 9, 2008 at 7:06 PM

So Ayers put at the head of the Annenberg Challenge and on the Woods Foundation just a guy he knew from the neighborhood?

drjohn on October 9, 2008 at 7:13 PM

Geez Louise, this is getting tiresome. Let’s talk about something useful.

ballz2wallz on October 9, 2008 at 5:33 PM

For instance?

csdeven on October 9, 2008 at 7:35 PM

Boy, he really needs to take lessons from Sarah Palin.

Tom_Shipley on October 9, 2008 at 5:42 PM

And you are the one who complains that Sarah avoids questions.

csdeven on October 9, 2008 at 7:37 PM

What John should do in the next debate is tell Oslime-a that he heard that he wanted to discuss the issue of Ayres tonight. “You’re first”.

csdeven on October 9, 2008 at 7:39 PM

and was a member of the New Party, and, and…….

Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2008 at 5:34 PM
…and two of my campaign team were Fannie Mae officials, and I voted against reining in Fannie, and I fought against the Infant Born Alive Protection Act, and, and…

(everyone join in)

Vashta.Nerada on October 9, 2008 at 5:37 PM

AND I RECEIVED MORE MONEY FROM FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC IN 3 YEARS IN THE sERNATE THAN ANYONE ELSE AND AM SECOND ON THE LIST OF FUNDS ONLY AFTER DODD AND i SAID TO GEORGE STEPH. ABOUT MY “MUSLIM FAITH” AND HE HAD TO CORRECT ME…
(sorry had cap lock on)

skatz51 on October 9, 2008 at 7:53 PM

that should read Senate, my bad

skatz51 on October 9, 2008 at 7:54 PM

The simple truth is, Obama has been lying about his experiences, background, and alliances. McCain has every right to raise questions about it.

Obama’s free to return the favor. Go back in McCain’s history and find a single time McCain worked with a terrorist and bring it out into the light of day.

Hog Wild on October 9, 2008 at 8:38 PM