Was Obama a member of the “New Party”?
posted at 4:48 pm on October 8, 2008 by Allahpundit
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When I saw this at Ace’s, it sounded so familiar that I spent 20 minutes checking our archives for the post I was sure Ed or Bryan had written about it. I was wrong; it wasn’t HA that blogged it, it was Erick Erickson at Red State in early June. Read his background, then see this post at Politically Drunk for evidence that The One was a member. I can’t tell definitively from either just how far left the NP was at the time; it may be that, like a lot of new third parties, they hadn’t quite hammered out a fixed identity yet. Erickson writes that “The New Party was designed as a loose confederation of unions, socialists, communists, and black activists who shared common values, but often had different goals,” although the party’s Wikipedia page suggests that they weren’t as far left as the Greens, which criticized them for being Democratic Party hangers-on. Doubtless Obama will claim that it was the union aspect that drew him to it or, failing that, that it was a brief youthful flirtation (he was, er, 35 at the time) with a fringier party than he ultimately felt comfortable with. Needless to say, I know I speak for all of us in denouncing this very racist attempt to question him on his party affiliations the way Sarah Palin was questioned on hers. After all, it’s not like any of The One’s other political associations have been worrisomely fringe.
The best part of this, assuming that it trickles up the media food chain and gets put to one of Obama’s spokesmen, will be trying to reconcile the inevitable profession of ignorance about the New Party’s agenda with David Brooks’s assertions about how “socially perceptive” Obama is. Truly, except for Ayers’s terrorist background, Wright’s sermons, Pfleger’s race-baiting, and the NP, his awareness of what’s going on around him is laser sharp.
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nothing new about it
The Race Card on October 8, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Socialist then, socialist now. “Health care is a right.”
That’s all I needed to hear.
Hannibal Smith on October 8, 2008 at 4:50 PM
Let’s see if the MSM makes the same stink that that did about the Alaska independence party.
scrubjay on October 8, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Ace also found this. Obama supported same-sex marriage in ‘96.
amerpundit on October 8, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Hey, but TODD PALIN who is NOT running for ANYTHING got his 1 week of anti-Republican news for being in the Alaska Independent Party.
That’s SO MUCH more newsworthy than the Democratic Presidential NOMINEE being a socialist…uh isn’t it?
originalpechanga on October 8, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Now we know why he’s the most liberal member of the Senate… even to the left of the socialist…
ninjapirate on October 8, 2008 at 4:52 PM
from their webpage:
The democratization of our banking and financial system-including popular election of those charged with public stewardship of our banking system, worker-owner control over their pension assets, community-controlled alternative financial institutions.
* A Bill of Rights for America’s Children, guaranteeing true equality of opportunity, providing equal education for all students, and achieving an adequate standard of health care, nutrition, housing, and safety.
* Community-control and equitable funding of our schools, within which we seek true excellence in public education along with equal opportunity to achieve it.
* Full employment, a shorter work week, and a guaranteed minimum income for all adults; a universal “social wage” to include such basic benefits as health care, child care, vacation time, and lifelong access to education and training; a systematic phase-in of comparable worth and like programs to ensure gender equity.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Politi...
Sounds like pure socialism/communism to me.
unseen on October 8, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Hey now THAT’S funny. Right there.
I’ll guess that they don’t.
wise_man on October 8, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Nothing fringe at all. Obomber is a mainstream radical.
J.J. Sefton on October 8, 2008 at 4:53 PM
My first thought also, this is the best comparison; only with Obama actually belonging, where Palin never was a member.
Wake me up when the MSM reports this.
right2bright on October 8, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Ditto. And having your own Youth Army is a major red flag, too. (No pun intended.)
Pasalubong on October 8, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Could everyone take a moment to sent this to Drudge? He seems to have no interest so far.
amerpundit on October 8, 2008 at 4:54 PM
BTW, Obama supported gay marriage in 1996…
http://web.archive.org/web/20010818164556/www.suba.com/~outlines/current/election/mckeon.html
ninjapirate on October 8, 2008 at 4:54 PM
The democratization of our banking and financial system-including popular election of those charged with public stewardship of our banking system, worker-owner control over their pension assets, community-controlled alternative financial institutions.
sounds like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac doesn’t it?
unseen on October 8, 2008 at 4:55 PM
The NP is an obvious fit with BO’s profile at the time — trying to drive the Democrats leftward, but more or less from within.
Karl on October 8, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Big stink is scheduled for mid-November.
fred5678 on October 8, 2008 at 4:55 PM
More important then what Obama says about it is what McCain says about it.
I think this is a gamechanger for McCain if played well. American’s might swallow bits of “moral responsibility” as Obama likes to cast his socialist views, but they don’t like a whole chunk of “member of socialist party” very well or more important, a candidate running on a ticket of a socialist party.
Spirit of 1776 on October 8, 2008 at 4:56 PM
If need be, send Drudge this Newsbusters link. He links them often.
amerpundit on October 8, 2008 at 4:56 PM
That’s what’s really frightening about what Brooks said. If he’s right we’re in big trouble.
Dash on October 8, 2008 at 4:56 PM
You need to start throwing Raila Odinga in there as well.
ChrisM on October 8, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Truly, I believe this may be the line they’re building up towards over the next month:
Barack Obama would have you believe that he had no idea what his minister of twenty years routinely preached; no idea that his mentor hates America; no idea that the political party he joined supported _____; no idea that the man helping him buy his home was a corrupt slumlord; no idea that the “community organizing” group he worked closely with for years was so heavily involved in voter fraud; etc…
Is he really that clueless? Or did he perhaps know all of that, and just not mind?
It’s a pretty solid argument, and if the Dems can’t come up with something better than “You Racist!!” in response, it’s going to be a massacre.
ClintACK on October 8, 2008 at 4:56 PM
Having monitored the activities of the far-Left in this town (that’s Chicago) for the last few years, I can say this is a common charge amongst in-fighting radical groups. Carl Davidson, formerly of Ayers’s Weathermen frequently took the brunt of these attacks, and was all but ostracized from the commieclub this year because of his “Progressives for Obama” campaign.
Make no mistake, one party may want to take up arms and play 1917, one may just want to lie to enough poor people to vote in nationalization policies. But they’re all Red to the core.
Hannibal Smith on October 8, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Some people will pay attention to this.
They will remember it if Obama becomes president.
They will do something about it.
There are so many precedents just waiting for this guy, and he’s going to live to regret many of the poor decisions he made in his past.
MadisonConservative on October 8, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Didn’t the Nazi’s start life as the “New Party?”
Just wondering if I should start hiding books up in the crawl spaces.
Bishop on October 8, 2008 at 4:58 PM
He’s lasery sharp in being aware that he has to lie like a dog about him knowing anything of the neighbors who inhabit on Obama Boulevard.
Can Barry help it if seems to be born as some kind of flypaper to all those commie, crook, fraudster flies? If he moves they will find him. That’s why he needs to get in the White House where he will be protected day and night from the scum who are attracted to him like iron shavings to a magnet.
Dusty on October 8, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Oh, who cares?
Barack is so handsome and new!
PattyJ on October 8, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Reminds me of… well… Democrats.
Paging Kirsten Powers and Camila Paglia: Your help is needed!
Mcguyver on October 8, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Hey, if no one cares that he was a member of a racist church for 20 years, I don’t see why this would make any kind of a ripple.
mjk on October 8, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Can Barry help it if seems to be born as some kind of flypaper to all those commie, crook, fraudster flies?
As the ‘All Knowing Greatness Which Is B. Hussein Obacon’ has said, he is an empty vessel into which we can all pour our dreams.
Bishop on October 8, 2008 at 5:01 PM
I’m just thinking……….
Bradely affect…..
But that’s just me, not thinking that any of this is starting to stick on the wall of Obama like a chili cheese burger and Mad Dog 20/20………
Seven Percent Solution on October 8, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Those aren’t the
commies, um,community organizers, er, just acquaintances from the neighborhood that I used to know?And it’s racist of you to expect that Obama understood what those guys were talking about.
funky chicken on October 8, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Some people will pay attention to this.
The more I look at this election, the more I think it is a fight for the very definition of America. On the one hand we have the organized and corrupt Chicago political machine attempting to get socialism in the back door by masking it with charisma. I wish on the other hand we had a stronger contrast, namely a conservative with vision at the top of the ticket. But we have Palin who is fearless and we have Mac who loves his country.
I am by no means resigned to defeat.
Spirit of 1776 on October 8, 2008 at 5:02 PM
O! is handsome with your eyes closed. Really, the only appealing thing about the guy is his voice… in a Saruman sort of way.
Y-not on October 8, 2008 at 5:02 PM
I sent it to Drudge about an hour ago
Tazz 55 on October 8, 2008 at 5:02 PM
The minute you involve other people, it ceases being a natural right, because you are infringing upon the liberty of another to garner what you need.
Health care is not a right.
DerKrieger on October 8, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Doubtless Obama won’t claim a damn thing, cuz nobody ever bothers him about things like this anyway.
surrounded on October 8, 2008 at 5:03 PM
If you send Drudge stuff he doesn’t always link to it right away… sometimes he waits a day or two… they’re no way this isn’t getting up the foodchain though…
ninjapirate on October 8, 2008 at 5:04 PM
You could splash this on all the headlines and….
the polls will show Obama up by an additional 2 points.
The fix is in. Between voter fraud and the Obama ‘08 MSM, what chance do we have?
They will buy votes, manufacture votes, sue, spread propaganda, manufacture a financial crisis, oppose a war they voted for, or do what ever the hell they have to.
They don’t care- and neither does the idiotic American public as they watch their reality-tv as they wait for their well-fare checks to arrive.
Fuck ‘em all.
FiveWays on October 8, 2008 at 5:05 PM
This reminds me of that election in New York City in 1997, when the Liberal Party of New York’s candidate for mayor won his contest. In other words, it was a strategy for the candidates to win their races via “electoral fusion”. Yes, he’s very liberal – but that’s already known. This will make a big impression on right wing blogs, but it’s probably not going to make a very big impression on the election. Also, do McCain and Palin really want to be bringing up the issue of candidates’ past third party associations? Verdict: waste of time.
Big S on October 8, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Yawn…I’m sorry, but unless the polls of significantly off, USAians have become so dumb, so ignorant of history, economics, and comparative economics (lets just pretend Europe isn’t screwed up…), that it’s all hopeless. Frickin stupid Americans!
ParisParamus on October 8, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Great! Another front! Whoopie!
We can’t make use of what we have already. Just how many months will it take to pick through the rest of the trash?
Or are these ‘talking points’ for 2009?
Limerick on October 8, 2008 at 5:05 PM
That came off a little creepy sounding. What is “something” when you say “They will do something about it.”
Glad to hear you say this in response.
wise_man on October 8, 2008 at 5:06 PM
(deep breath then sigh) … This isn’t the New Party I knew.
AeroSpear on October 8, 2008 at 5:06 PM
RNC/McCain better go to the mattresses with this stuff, wall to wall ads tearing this Commie to shreds for rest of campaign.
We can not afford an Obama – Reid – Pelosi Government.
jp on October 8, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Irrelevant.
Spirit of 1776 on October 8, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Hope&Change, Change&Hope, move along nothing to see here.
johnsteele on October 8, 2008 at 5:07 PM
You’re welcome.
wise_man on October 8, 2008 at 5:07 PM
“This is not the New Party I thought I knew.” – BHO
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 8, 2008 at 5:07 PM
I never thought I would see the day that Americans would vote for a Socialist/Marxist/Communist, but they are. I think most do not think of him in those terms, but they are so enamored, they either cannot see it, or they adopt the willing suspension of disbelief.
Most of those who are voting for Obama don’t think of themselves as socialist, but they like the idea of the government giving them free
indoctrination, education, healthcare and the idea of getting even with people who have more money than they do.Star20 on October 8, 2008 at 5:09 PM
“I can no more disown the New Party than I can disown my America hating, racist preacher of 20 years…”
Agent of the Cross on October 8, 2008 at 5:10 PM
The line of attack is both racist AND homophobic.
benrand on October 8, 2008 at 5:10 PM
This country is going to have to experience the pain of this Socialist dick-heads “Change” before it wakes up.
And then it will be too late.
America is now a nation of lazy, idiotic, gimme gimme simpletons, who bare no responsiblity for their actions, yet expect the government to make everything all right.
That last 40 years of institutionalized Liberalism is beginning to pay big dividends.
The America we knew…….is gone.
FiveWays on October 8, 2008 at 5:11 PM
We get what we pay for and in this case it is at 33% compound interest.
Limerick on October 8, 2008 at 5:11 PM
McCain needs to promise Bubba appointment to United Nations to un-endorse Obama.
jp on October 8, 2008 at 5:11 PM
yes, but most people apparently no longer know the difference between a ‘right’ and an entitlement.
For you Dems and trolls: Rights existed before government, as part of being human, and government’s only legitimate purpose is to PROTECT rights.
Entitlements are favors granted by government, so they can be defined and manipulated–and removed–by government
A government which tries to take away rights ( life, liberty, property ) DESERVES to be destroyed. That is the reason this nation was created–and the only reason that government is tolerated
Note to Omama-ites: if you get power and try to take away my rights, I will do everything in my power to destroy you
EVERYTHING……….
Janos Hunyadi on October 8, 2008 at 5:12 PM
As if that would sway any voters?
wise_man on October 8, 2008 at 5:12 PM
How is it that this guy is so close to possibly becoming president? I’m amazed that this could happen.
Esthier on October 8, 2008 at 5:12 PM
I think this is a gamechanger for McCain if played well. American’s might swallow bits of “moral responsibility” as Obama likes to cast his socialist views, but they don’t like a whole chunk of “member of socialist party” very well or more important, a candidate running on a ticket of a socialist party.
Spirit of 1776 on October 8, 2008 at 4:56 PM
patrick neid on October 8, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Oh and the MSM will come out of this election with a new sense of invincibility.
If you thought the Media was biased before-
you ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.
FiveWays on October 8, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Because George Soros owns the Democrat party, Esthier.
wise_man on October 8, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Yep. Time to join McCain and Palin and fight for our country. Do you think McCain knew all this stuff about Obama when he and his staff wrote his convention speech?
Imagine how weird it is for him to find out that he’s running against an old school communist who is backed by all the filth of the 1960s.
This election really is the final battle between the members of the Vietnam generation. We simply cannot let the crazy commies win.
funky chicken on October 8, 2008 at 5:13 PM
This is the best country in the world. I don’t believe one man could harm us that much. A second or third, maybe.
Esthier on October 8, 2008 at 5:14 PM
the manchurian candidate.
aso on October 8, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Hi Patrick, here’s why I think you are wrong. Swing state polls showed last week a swing of 7 points within 1 week in one state, and in other state 8 points within 2 weeks. Fox said yesterday, according to their poll I believe, that 10% are undecided, and 25% are open to change their vote. I believe there is still significant flexibility left from today until Election day.
Spirit of 1776 on October 8, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Let me know how that works out for ya.
FiveWays on October 8, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Don’t go defeatist p*ssy now. Stand and FIGHT. And do whatever you can to defeat Obama this November.
The silly fantasies about waiting until 2010 or 2012 are just that–silly fantasies.
The battle is NOW. don’t chicken out.
funky chicken on October 8, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Finally, Hannity pushing Odinga connection
jp on October 8, 2008 at 5:16 PM
They have some Document from Keyna
jp on October 8, 2008 at 5:16 PM
I’ll stand with the fearless patriots any day.
Sorry you are such a sobbing francis. Perhaps Manly Rash can find you a job in the rear echalons.
funky chicken on October 8, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Yep. Time to join McCain and Palin and fight for our country. Do you think McCain knew all this stuff about
I have no way of knowing, but I would surprised that either yea or nay it would have effected the speech much.
I hope it’s the last battle.
Spirit of 1776 on October 8, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Great line
drjohn on October 8, 2008 at 5:18 PM
I was ready to fight.
And then McPussy came out in the debate last night and took a shit.
Don’t ask a man to follow a shadow into battle.
FiveWays on October 8, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Oh, and by the way, Spirit of 1776. What would McCain have to do to cross the red line so you wouldn’t vote for him, and stay home while millions voted for Obama. Just curious.
wise_man on October 8, 2008 at 5:18 PM
A man that controls the presidential veto for a sympathetic legislature and might possibly appoint 3 Supreme Court judges? That’s a lot of power to harm the US.
I wish I was as optimistic.
darclon on October 8, 2008 at 5:18 PM
In a sense I agree, but I do not yet believe the patient is beyond saving. To reuse the old, overused cliche, America has a fever and the only cure is more conservatism – which, at the moment, seems embodied in the Barracuda.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 8, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Eh, top line should be also in the quote, but you get the point.
Spirit of 1776 on October 8, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Follow Sarah then. That’s what I’m doing.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 8, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Just because they don’t hate Palin doesn’t mean they’ll say anything that might hurt Obama.
Jim Treacher on October 8, 2008 at 5:19 PM
So that’s all it takes, He doesn’t operate his candidacy the way you want, and then you’ll no longer support him? Is that true, or are you just BSing because it’s a fun thing to do.
wise_man on October 8, 2008 at 5:20 PM
So lay down. You’d only get in the way anyway.
Jim Treacher on October 8, 2008 at 5:20 PM
The Chicagoan/Kenyan candidate.
fred5678 on October 8, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Which is horrifying in and of itself.
Esthier on October 8, 2008 at 5:20 PM
God knows I love ya Grue. I really do.
But I have no idea what you’re basing that on. I feel like this entire fucking country is just to fucking lazy and stupid to give a damn.
FiveWays on October 8, 2008 at 5:21 PM
I see from your lower post that you think that he is destined for defeat and didn’t show leadership last night. Let me just repeat myself from last night.
I think he did fine if he just decreases concerns about him wrt to the economy. And he restated his suspension again which is helpful, imo, because he shows his reasons and results (that was a first) instead of people worrying about him being erratic.
I don’t think McCain has to knock out Obama, but I’m in the minority I suppose. I think Palin will make Obama a dangerous pick in the next 3-4 weeks, and Mac just has to be the stable, smart guy you feel safe with.
Spirit of 1776 on October 8, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Anyone seen Pelosi’s new stimulus plan? another 150billion up in smoke
lodge on October 8, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Then don’t follow McCain. Follow Palin.
amerpundit on October 8, 2008 at 5:22 PM
I said conservatism is the cure. It is, without a doubt.
The problem is getting the patient to take the medicine.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 8, 2008 at 5:22 PM
McCarthy were are you when we need you
unseen on October 8, 2008 at 5:22 PM
I’ll be laying beside McCain. Take a big leap; you’ll need to step over both of us.
FiveWays on October 8, 2008 at 5:22 PM
The bits of information gathered so far are enough, if the candidate involved was named McCain or Palin rather than Osama Obama, enough to get blaring headlines in the NYT and pages of supposition and wild-ass guesses about how deep the roots of said candidate’s stupidity extend.
They’ve gone off on McCain and Palin before with no credible evidence.
But this involves The Messiah, so their careful fact-checking (which will show nothing wrong) will take until, say, February. By which time the NYT will be federally supported and won’t have to worry about anything but how lavishly they can praise Obama.
MrScribbler on October 8, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Nothing to see here folks, move along. It was just a pro-Democracy activist group that Obama was loosely associated with many years ago. No need to discuss to even mention it. Unless you’re racist.
/MSM
Hollowpoint on October 8, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Never fear, Grue. I don’t know what will happen. All I know is that it won’t be ‘business as usual’ with Barry in office, regardless what Eeyore thinks.
Win we have to buckle down and FIX things. Lose we have to be care who we talk to and about what.
It is either going to be “One if by land, two if by sea” or “Shut up and roll up your sleeves”.
Limerick on October 8, 2008 at 5:22 PM
I don’t deny that he can harm the US. I just don’t see it being permanent or in any way irreversible unless Americans continue to elect him and other like him.
We’ve survived bad cases in the past, and I have no doubt that we can continue to do so in the future.
Esthier on October 8, 2008 at 5:22 PM
The “New Party” is a spin-off of the Democratic Sociaists of America (DSA) Looking in the DSA materials leads to a bunch of connections. On pp 16-17 here
http://www.dsausa.org/dl/DLFall2001.pdf
there’s a eulogy for Richard Cloward – the one who wrote the plan for how America could be taken over by communism. It notes how he not only taught his students, but activated them. I can’t remember where, but it was noted that Obama was a “community activist in New York.
Cloward’s big thing when Obama was at Columbia was voter registration. He started a program called Human SERVE in 1982, which Obama later incorporated into the Motor Voter Act he successfully argued.
Methinks Obama knows Cloward and might even know the Cloward-Piven Plan.
justincase on October 8, 2008 at 5:23 PM
more nails in the coffin:
However, through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his “poetry” and getting advice on his career path. But Obama, in his book, Dreams From My Father, refers to him repeatedly as just “Frank.”
The reason is apparent: Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. In fact, the 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii identified him as a CPUSA member. What’s more, anti-communist congressional committees, including the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), accused Davis of involvement in several communist-front organizations.
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/
unseen on October 8, 2008 at 5:23 PM
“The greatest horror and severest blow to our country will come the day we learn Joe McCarthy was right.” – D.Baker
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 8, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Because it sure seems like you are BSing us.
wise_man on October 8, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Hannity just finished interviewing Jerome Corsi who said that he has documentary evidence that Obama knowingly supported a Kenyan political party that wants to use religious and tribal violence to implement Islamic sharia law in Kenya.
scrubjay on October 8, 2008 at 5:25 PM
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