Comments on: Suspected Palin e-mail hacker indicted

By: Tel-Chai Nation

Tel-Chai Nation — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:22:41 +0000

Suspect in hacking of Palin email account indicted…

And who might the suspect be? David Kernell, the son of Tennessee Democrat Mike Kernell. From the Knoxville News Sentinel (via Michelle Malkin):…

By: Alleged Palin Email Hacker Indicted « Beltway Snark

Alleged Palin Email Hacker Indicted « Beltway Snark — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:16:54 +0000

[...] Palin Email Hacker Indicted Jump to Comments I know I’m a day late with this, but then again it should only come as a mild surprise. They pretty much have Kernell dead to [...]

By: BigWyo

BigWyo — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:28:01 +0000

If HotAir does not check for multiple log ins under the same user name I can switch browsers between posts and the logs will look like a how did he do that mess

CommentGuy on October 8, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Ummm..yeah…you can have 500 browsers on your computer but they all have the same IP….

And the ‘my cat jumped on my keyboard’ will work about one time…maybe…

By: ericdondero

ericdondero — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:03:03 +0000

Does anyone know anything about the Republican candidate running against State Rep. Mike Kernell in the Memphis area?

You gotta think Kernell now stands a greater chance of losing his seat.

By: Palin E-mail Hacker Indicted

Palin E-mail Hacker Indicted — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:08:43 +0000

[...] Malkin, HotAir, and Right Voices all have good [...]

By: David Kernell, Son Of Tennessee Democratic State Representative Mike Kernell, Indicted In Palin E-mail Hacking Case | Right Voices

Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:01:00 +0000

[...] HotAir [...]

By: LimeyGeek

LimeyGeek — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:50:21 +0000

This reminds me of the scene in Zoolander…

JadeNYU on October 8, 2008 at 2:46 PM

Would you like some tea? ;)

By: JadeNYU

JadeNYU — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:46:31 +0000

the evidence is IN the computer…

CapitalistPig on October 8, 2008 at 1:44 PM

This reminds me of the scene in Zoolander…

By: The Emotional Cripple

The Emotional Cripple — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:27:29 +0000

Lawmaker’s son indicted in Palin e-mail hacking…

Follow-up: Cracker of Palin’s email account indicted.
……

By: LimeyGeek

LimeyGeek — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:08:12 +0000

Example

4 kids in a car run a stop sign and cop across the street at a gas station sees it but didn’t get a look at the driver

Kids saw cop pull around corner out of sight , turn off car and are all sitting on the grass on the curb when the cop pulls up.

Who you gonna ticket?

CommentGuy on October 8, 2008 at 1:53 PM

Excellent.

The Race Card on October 8, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Hatstand

By: The Race Card

The Race Card — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:07:28 +0000

*Whom

By: The Race Card

The Race Card — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:07:06 +0000

Example

4 kids in a car run a stop sign and cop across the street at a gas station sees it but didn’t get a look at the driver

Kids saw cop pull around corner out of sight , turn off car and are all sitting on the grass on the curb when the cop pulls up.

Who you gonna ticket?

CommentGuy on October 8, 2008 at 1:53 PM

Excellent.

By: The College Politico » Blog Archive » Palin hacker, Rubico, was on NewsBusters while taking pictures of her E-Mail

Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:06:58 +0000

[...] UPDATE: Looks like the feds have caught Rubico, aka David Kernell addthis_url = [...]

By: The Race Card

The Race Card — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:05:51 +0000

CapitalistPig on October 8, 2008 at 1:44 PM

Step away from the web glossary!

By: CommentGuy

CommentGuy — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:05:14 +0000

Your FAIL means nothing

Just my firefox web developer plugin alone allows me to swap browser type at a click of a button even if I am still using firefox it identifies to the site as whatever browser I want without loggin in or out, that is part of it’s purpose to allow me to try combos of stuff when developing web pages to see if it works for different browsers .

It even swaps which rendering engine is used if I want to have that happen.

By: capitalist piglet

capitalist piglet — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:04:35 +0000

Ha. No mention of the “D” word on the ABC newsbreak. He’s just the “son of a Tennessee representative”, you know.

By: LimeyGeek

LimeyGeek — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:04:21 +0000

Who you gonna ticket?

CommentGuy on October 8, 2008 at 1:53 PM

The owner of the vehicle.

You’re right in one sense, there is no digital link to the physical world that cannot be challenged. However, you’re making a point without much teeth, as all that is needed is not formal proof, but proof beyond reasonable doubt.

Trying to blame your kitty for uploading gigabytes of child porn is unlikely to fly far.

By: CapitalistPig

CapitalistPig — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:02:04 +0000

It isn’t just forensics. This is a clear cut case and they have the witnesses to point fingers at the guilty. The forensics prove that this computer was the source of the hacking.

His friends put him in the chair. Done deal.

bonnie_

Damned straight.

By: The Race Card

The Race Card — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:02:00 +0000

Right now on this computer I have 5 different browsers running.

All I have to do is log out of HotAir and log back in with a different browser Firefox to Opera for example and your server is left scratching it’s head.

If HotAir does not check for multiple log ins under the same user name I can switch browsers between posts and the logs will look like a how did he do that mess

CommentGuy on October 8, 2008 at 1:14 PM

FAIL!

By: CommentGuy

CommentGuy — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:02:00 +0000

Agreed bonnie it takes that confirmation if he gets convicted.

Just the computer stuff alone is NOT enough.

By: bonnie_

bonnie_ — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:58:33 +0000

Hey, guys, remember this kid bragged to his friends what he did. He showed them. They are the ones who’ve been interviewed by Secret Service and the Feds and they’re singing like canaries.

It isn’t just forensics. This is a clear cut case and they have the witnesses to point fingers at the guilty. The forensics prove that this computer was the source of the hacking.

His friends put him in the chair. Done deal.

By: CapitalistPig

CapitalistPig — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:57:01 +0000

Short of a videotape of the guy at the computer doing it, I agree, you can’t definitively prove anyone did anything unless you have it on videotape. Fortunately, our courts don’t have the same stringent “PROVE IT TO ME” standard that you have. The USA’s office appears to have more than ample circumstantial evidence here that proves, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the kid was involved. That’s all you need to get past, a reasonable doubt…I dare say that most web-lawyers hinge their entire defense, much like you do, on this ‘reasonable doubt’. Fortunately, juries get to see everything else, such as the ‘overwhelming evidence’ that the defendant did what he is alleged to have done. This ‘reasonable doubt’ does not exist on it’s own, it has to be weighed as a part of the overall case against the defendant.

By: CommentGuy

CommentGuy — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:53:49 +0000

Example

4 kids in a car run a stop sign and cop across the street at a gas station sees it but didn’t get a look at the driver

Kids saw cop pull around corner out of sight , turn off car and are all sitting on the grass on the curb when the cop pulls up.

Who you gonna ticket?

By: duggersd

duggersd — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:52:53 +0000

What was that breeze I just felt? Oh, it was everything going over my head. As The One would say: that is above my pay grade.

By: CommentGuy

CommentGuy — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:48:29 +0000

CP you have nothing zero nada

You could prove the exact computer and recover the full sordid history intact from the hard drive.

Now prove who did it. The body the person you can’t.

All you can at best prove with full information is where and when you can’t prove conclusively the who part.