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Russians pull back to South Ossetia and Abkhazia

posted at 9:30 am on October 8, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Two months after invading and occupying large portions of Georgia, Russian troops have begun to dismantle their positions and retreat back to the disputed provinces in the Caucasus.  The Russians will comply with the terms of a cease-fire agreement that requires them to return to their positions status quo ante in South Ossetia and Abkhazia.  They will rely on EU monitors in the formerly occupied areas, but not in the disputed provinces:

Russia says its troops are pulling back from a “buffer zone” around Georgia’s breakaway region of South Ossetia.

Russian forces were seen dismantling and leaving one checkpoint in the area.

Moscow must pull its troops out of areas around South Ossetia and Abkhazia – another breakaway region in Georgia – by Friday under a ceasefire deal.

President Dmitry Medvedev said the pullout would be completed by midnight. Moscow has kept troops in the region since ousting Georgia’s army in August.

Unfortunately, this does not return the region to the status previous to August 7th.  Russia has recognized the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, although few if any other countries have joined Moscow in that recognition.  They refuse to allow the EU or other international monitors in either province to determine their actual status or the Russian activities within them.  Georgia’s military has been left in a much weaker position, and the damage inflicted on the country and its citizens will likely create political instability for years.

With the Russian adventure in Georgia almost at an end, at least militarily, they may be free to create their next adventure.  Michael Totten reports from the “forgotten war” in Nagorno Karabakh, the disputed region between Azerbaijan and Armenia that stokes passion far beyond anything Totten experienced in Georgia:

Immediately following Russia’s invasion of Georgia and its de-facto annexation of the breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, the phrase “frozen conflicts” was bandied about so often among the world’s foreign policy commentariat that it briefly became a cliché. Yet there is another frozen conflict in the South Caucasus that few have even heard of, fewer know much about, and even fewer have thought to include in any analysis. This war, the forgotten war of Nagorno (or “Mountainous”) Karabakh, has so far racked up a much higher body count – tens of thousands – than any in Georgia lately. Many more people – more than a million – were displaced. An uneasy ceasefire holds most of the time, but the conflict itself is not even close to being resolved. It’s a Mideast- and Balkan-style ethnic bomb that could easily blow up the region again and tempt Russia with another imperialist adventure in its “near abroad.”

If Russia wants to rebuild its empire, this would provide a logical pressure point.  The Azeris could get pushed quite easily into war with Armenia, which would give Vladimir Putin an excuse to occupy Azerbaijan on behalf of their Armenian allies.  In fact, as Totten discovers, the Russians have been provoking the Azeris much the same way they provoked the Georgians, but the Azeris have wisely chosen to ignore them.  However, popular sentiment runs heavily towards war, and eventually the Azeri government will have to reckon with that.

One potential obstacle exists for Russia.  The collapse of the financial markets has cut the price of oil in half.  Russia relies heavily on crude oil exports to fund their adventures.  If the price of oil continues to drop, Moscow may not have the cash to maintain its current positions, let alone conduct adventures in the former Soviet republics.  Recall that the Russian military was near collapse until oil prices began rising a few years ago, and Russia began making fortunes on energy exports.  Oil gave them the money to be aggressive, and now the financial situation may force them to retreat.

Be sure to read all of Totten’s excellent dispatch, and keep an eye on southwest Asia.  More potential powder kegs may blow up in the near future.


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Oil gave them the money to be aggressive, and now the financial situation may force them to retreat.

All the more reason to “drill here, drill now”. To defund the Soviet war machine.

MarkTheGreat on October 8, 2008 at 9:36 AM

Winter will set in soon. The Russians achieved what they wanted, installed their security bases with their own “surge” that worked their own imperial miracle against Georgia, etc.

The Russians never overextend themselves during winter unless involved in defense from invasion (Germany 20th Century, France 19th Century).

The Russians also have the “advantage” historically since the USSR of politically only tolerating one party. Hence, whatever designs they have carry over generation to generation without being dissolved by political opposition. No opposition party in power is tolerated. Hence, whatever historical grudges or biases exist only augment with time.

maverick muse on October 8, 2008 at 9:41 AM

They are just going to wait till Obama is sworn in, then game is really on

jp on October 8, 2008 at 9:49 AM

This has less to do with territory, and more to do with Iran than most people think.

Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2008 at 9:51 AM

Moscow must pull its troops out of areas around South Ossetia and Abkhazia – another breakaway region in Georgia – by Friday under a ceasefire deal.

Or what? That sounds almost like an ‘or else’ moment.

Tony737 on October 8, 2008 at 10:05 AM

This has less to do with territory, and more to do with Iran than most people think.

Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2008 at 9:51 AM

This really has everything to do with Russia. “All politics is local,” as Tip O’Niell once said, and internal Russian politics are the huge driving force behind all these adventures. Putin is riding Russian nationalism to stay in power. Russia lost its empire, and was feeling humiliated. One piece at a time, these small “adventures” in southwest Asia are building that empire back. Russia would do the same in Eastern Europe if they thought they could pull it off.

Also keep in mind that Russia is a land that has been invaded many times over the centuries. Their traditional “defense” is to absorb surrounding countries, so that those other countries can absorb the cost of border wars. Russia did this as an Empire; they did it again as a “Socialist Workers’ Paradise”; they’re doing it again.

Finally, Russia has always loved strong, authoritarian leaders. Going far back into the days of the Tsars, most Russians have believed that only a strong, authoritarian leader could manage Russia.

Putin is giving the Russian people everything they want. It got him into power, and it’s keeping him there. Against that, what leverage do we really have and what leverage are we willing to expend?

NeighborhoodCatLady on October 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM

This has less to do with territory, and more to do with Iran than most people think.

Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2008 at 9:51 AM

Can you elaborate on this?

aengus on October 8, 2008 at 10:18 AM

Less than a month until the US elections. Russian ambitions can wait a short period of time to help elect someone that they will have an easier time pushing around.

danking70 on October 8, 2008 at 10:27 AM

They are just going to wait till Obama is sworn in, then game is really on

jp on October 8, 2008 at 9:49 AM

What does that even mean?

thePajamaPundit on October 8, 2008 at 10:49 AM

Georgia, Ukraine, who knows…they will go for it. First they’ll test Obama to see how weak he really is.

jp on October 8, 2008 at 11:01 AM

For PajamaPundit: It’s really quite simple. Obama is a lightweight, American hating douche. Every dicatator in the world is slavering over the idea of having Obama managing the US response. Carter, part II.

Look, we all know that Obama has horrible judgement–if you can believe his OWN story. He didn’t see Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Summers, etc. for who they were. If he can’t see that, why wouldn’t he believe whatever bilge Putin tries–the Neville Chamberlin “We can believe Hitler and we get peace in our time!”

Second, Obama hates using Americans to promote democracy. He’d never challenge Russia except some form of “diplomacy.” Read: Ineffectual blathering. This is a guy who thinks the UN is the ideal way, and that it works. The UN is worthless, but Obama loves it.

Put it this way: If you were Putin, who would YOU rather have as the American president? Obama, who is practically a marxist and probably has fond memories of the Soviet Union, and who is avowedly opposed to any kind of American power overseas. Or would he face McCain, who pretty much pioneered the opposition to his adventure in Georgia?

Obama, who wants to kill off any form of US energy production so we have to import more from Russia, or McCain, who wants energy independance?

It’s a no brainer. Any dictator or powerhungry type, such as Putin, is praying to whatever deity they worship that Obama is president. Then they’ll have free reign. The Carter Glory Days are here again!

Vanceone on October 8, 2008 at 11:05 AM

My heart bleeds for Georgian plight. Thanks god it’s over!

promachus on October 8, 2008 at 11:12 AM

So will Russia get the military base on Iceland for their 5 billion dollar bailout?

danking70 on October 8, 2008 at 11:15 AM

I disagree with the concensus about Obama’s judgement regarding Ayers. He knows full well what Ayers is–and sees NOTHING amiss.

irongrampa on October 8, 2008 at 11:36 AM

Vanceone on October 8, 2008 at 11:05 AM

Very well done.

baldilocks on October 8, 2008 at 12:33 PM

The Russians. Expect alot more from them in the near future.

apacalyps on October 8, 2008 at 1:07 PM

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