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capitalist piglet on October 8, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Okay, I watched as many as I could. How could I miss this? If you don’t believe the media has sold it’s soul to the devil after this massive coverup for all this man is involved with, then nothing would convince you. WOW CP thanks for the heads up.

He just said we couldn’t stand by and idly do nothing.

Ric on October 8, 2008 at 11:37 AM

Yeah, we know what he would do — he’d talk them to death. Or maybe hold a big rally somewhere.

O! is willing to pull the genocide card when it benefits him politically (such as the Armenian genocide resolution), even if it puts our troops at risk (yeah, let’s piss off Turkey right now, that won’t affect anything). Maybe if he spent more time meeting with troops and their commanders, and less time seeking the adulation of Germans, he’d be able to articulate a consistent national security and foreign policy position that promotes freedom and secures our nation.

I’m not up very well on the activities with BHO in Africa. Can either of you post a link where it’s laid out?

hawkdriver on October 8, 2008 at 11:31 AM

There are some very good vids on YouTube about it; you could just search over there for Odinga and Obama. I think you’ll be shocked.

Republicans have to drop this shoe pretty soon, once the Ayers stuff sinks in.

750,000 Vietnamese. 2-3 MILLION Cambodians.

Biden and the other Democrats watched the bloodbath and patted themselves on the back for causing it.

Ed you have to learn to parse his statements better. Obama was addressing “…when genocide is happening…”. You see the genocide that occurred in Iraq happened before we invaded and the genocide that may occur if we leave precipitously would be potential genocide (or preemptive if you will – we don’t do that sort of thing anymore under an Obama administration). Obama would feel comfortable intervening if genocide was ongoing – after maybe a million or so are dead.

That’s a bit glib, but I think it’s a perfectly logical defense. Clearly, preventing otherwise inevitable murders is more important than either preventing the possibility of murder or punishing tyrants who’ve murdered in the past. Obama’s view might be distasteful to those of us who think that giving Iraq to our most vicious enemies, Al-Qaeda and Iran, would be the ultimate defeat. However, it is not logically inconsistent.

Lets try the Mocha

How could Obama answer this question when he held NO subcommittee meetings on Afghanistan. NONE, ZIP, ZERO, NADA! If he cannot go to Afghanistan, take the time to meet with commanders in Afghanistan BEFORE running for POTUS and has not lifted one finger to visit with our soldiers in hospitals here at home and abroad, then how does he have the capacity to answer this question? There was also genocide in Afghanistan via the Taliban.

Ultimately Obama is going against the people of Iraq. More of them prefer life without Saddam and without Al Qaeda. Kind of similar to how he is against the people of America. We prefer not to have Marxist running our lives. It seems to me that at every turn Obama is against freedom loving people in general all over the world. You know how I know this- just look at what happened in Kenya after he visited Raila Odinga. Speaking of genocide!

That said, there is no time for McCain to deal with this stupid “we invaded Iraq” issue and it’s a loser thanks to the MSM no matter what. He’s done well to refocus it to his “we are there now, it was bungled, I fixed it and now we’re achieving our goals” answer.

Damiano on October 8, 2008 at 12:27 PM

+1

I have been debating this point with anti-Iraq liberal retards for years. The second anyone in the world fires a gun, they criticize everyone in the US for not putting a stop to it, then say that Saddam was simply misunderstood and we we invaded a sovereign nation that was no threat to us or anyone else.

That said, there is no time for McCain to deal with this stupid “we invaded Iraq” issue and it’s a loser thanks to the MSM no matter what. He’s done well to refocus it to his “we are there now, it was bungled, I fixed it and now we’re achieving our goals” answer.

And, as usual, McCain fell flat. It was a horrible performance on his behalf last night. I just sat there going, this election is over. We’re toast.

The 4 most incompetent, ultra-liberal boobs in the country, will be running it…Obama, Biden, Pelosi & Reid.

This will really help to convince indies of O’s marxism.

Bush’s strategy was to execute the criminal and when a bunch of other criminals came to try to kill the cops, kill them too. This is called “defeating your enemies.”

Marine_Bio on October 8, 2008 at 11:40 AM

Exactly Marine and to my point above. Who even remembers the mass graves we found? I’ve flown over most of them. They’re massive. I guess the question of how many thousands of murdered people it takes to qualify as genocide is also above his pay grade to decide.

jp on October 8, 2008 at 11:37 AM

Great. Thanks

I thought I was able to stay informed in spite of the media but I guess a lot still get past that they will not report on. Goes back to my previous post.

That’s not really accurate. Technically, they waited to “abandoned their position” until such time had passed that their Ministry of Disinformation (aka, the MSM) wsa able to undermine the US publics’ support of the war. When the polling numbers hit 50/50, that’s when Dems suddenly discovered that they’d been “lied to” and “mislead” by the Bush administration.

A lot of what you say is true. But I know there was a lot of self-fulfilling prophesy going on too. I’ve commented before that the comments made by the liberals affected the actual war itself. The insurgents and AQI knew after the Democratic debates for 04s election that we were split politically. When Denny K stood on a stage and said Pres. Bush cooked up the entire war in Iraq in Texas and for oil, (ignoring statements made by almost every Democratic heavy hitter that they too thought he had WMDs) he, and subsequently every other Democrat primary candidate except Joe Lieberman, told a near defeated enemy to fight on. If you can’t mount an offensive, no worries, just stay in the news. Kill a couple American soldiers every day on MSR Tampa and we’ll print that over any other good news story that comes out of that country.

Liberal democrats have blood on their hands as much as the men who pulled the triggers on us.