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Time to panic? Not for young Jedis

posted at 5:30 pm on October 7, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Obi-Wan Kenobi advises all young conservative Jedis to get a grip on their Force, and put panic aside.  At least, that’s the advice coming from the longtime political insider that corresponds with National Review’s Jim Geraghty, who uses the nom de plume of the Star Wars character.  With four weeks to go, the current polling doesn’t necessarily portend an imbalance in the Force, and probably doesn’t reflect reality:

“Any pessimism now is dumbness,” he said as he appeared to me recently. “A few weeks ago every swing state was coming McCain’s way and he had a national lead. And some polls showed him  four points and six points behind in New Jersey and New York. And now all that has gone away? Politics doesn’t work like that. The American people, even in the midst of an unprecented economic crisis, don’t react like that for any sustained period. Those patterns can reassert themselves.”

Obi Wan talks to other Republicans, and back in July when Obama was way ahead and Republicans gloomy he said that the whole picture was likely to change dramtically by early september and McCain “would have a lead that lasted longer than just convention bounce.”

He says some underlying factors — some new and some old — are still at work and helpful to McCain.

Perhaps I’m more of a padwan, but the rapid shift in polling certainly doesn’t fill me with hope.  The swing has been confirmed across several pollsters, although the most recent trends show some bounce for McCain.  The last two weeks of financial crisis plays into the perceived strengths of the Democrats, and the knee-jerk response from the electorate has played into Obama’s hands.  I’d be inclined to say that polling reflects the reality at the moment, although I’m not sure it will be predictive of the mood in four weeks.

Obi-Wan also misses on another point.  He tells Jim that any slippage by Obama in the polls will appear like a catastrophe for the in-the-bag media, and he could get hammered by the appearance of being a loser.  McCain has survived spells like this and recovered, and may be the only modern major political figure to do so.  However, Obama managed to survive at least the convention bump McCain received.  That may have been inevitable, given the financial crisis, but nonetheless Obama managed to turn it around.

Still, I’m more sanguine than most of the conservatives with whom I’ve spoken lately — perhaps from a few more years of following elections than others have.  With the bailout bill already passed, McCain can now go on offense against Obama on the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac disaster.  McCain also benefits from having taken a leadership role in the bailout debate, while Obama steered clear of taking a position as much as he could.  The vast majority of the electorate has only just now started paying attention to the race, and they may like Obama on first blush.  McCain still has two more debates to define Obama more clearly for these late arrivals to the race.

If McCain can get the media talking about the real cause of the financial crisis, the collapse of Fannie and Freddie, and his efforts to head it off (and the lack of effort from Obama), then McCain could succeed at resurrecting himself yet again.  In the end, with voters livid over the cost of the financial crisis, I somehow don’t believe that they will turn to a man who will raise taxes, spend hundreds of billions more, and has never had a leadership position in his life.  I’ve searched my feelings … and I can feel the Force telling me that voters have more sense than that when the curtain closes and they’re all alone in the voting booth.


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McCain could really help his cause tonight by going nuclear on Obama like he did yesterday. Will he? That’s always the question with McCain, isn’t it?

lorien1973 on October 7, 2008 at 5:33 PM

HOW TO START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK

1. Create an empty folder on your computer.

2. Name it ‘Barack Obama’.

3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.

4. Empty the Recycle Bin.

5. Your PC will ask you: ‘Do you really want to get rid of ‘Barack Obama?’

6. Firmly Click ‘Yes.’

7. Feel better?

GOOD – Tomorrow we’ll do Nancy Pelosi!

…it’s the simple things in life that keep me sane

SilverStar830 on October 7, 2008 at 5:33 PM

advises all young conservative Jedis to get a grip on their Force

Wow.

amerpundit on October 7, 2008 at 5:34 PM

McCain could have finished Obama in the first debate. He chose not to. Will he step up his game in this debate? Doubtful. Will the people in the town hall meeting be liberal plants. Probably.

D0WNT0WN on October 7, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Gloomy, PerroViejo is not. Makes all boats rise, the force does.

perroviejo on October 7, 2008 at 5:36 PM

Not time to panic. A prayer wouldn’t be a bad idea.

NellE on October 7, 2008 at 5:37 PM

Conservative Jedis don’t expend their precious force energy on a collegially robotic C3PO candidate.

Fletch54 on October 7, 2008 at 5:37 PM

McCain still has two more debates to define Obama more clearly for these late arrivals to the race.

Yes, but I wish there were a couple of more debates with Palin.

I think they need to try to generate some news with some major announcement at a town hall that they (Mac and Sarah) do together. McCain looks invigorated when he’s next to Palin.

Y-not on October 7, 2008 at 5:38 PM

I forgot.

I feel like it’s game over when the Star Wars references come out. :P

lorien1973 on October 7, 2008 at 5:38 PM

I’m more confident in the electorate than most on here have been recently and I don’t buy the polls one bit.

I will admit that the only thing that is starting to concern me is the voter fraud and my stupid state of Ohio letting moronic people vote before the election. I had a choice to do the same thing yesterday because I had to change the address on my registration, but I told my wife and I that I wanted to wait because I didn’t want the state to screw with my vote.

Here’s to hoping that a “Bradley Effect” does exist and will offset the voter fraud.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 7, 2008 at 5:38 PM

With the bailout bill already passed, McCain can now go on offense against Obama on the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac disaster.

That bailout worked really well. I think McCain should talk about how well it worked. A lot.

But yes, he does need to hammer Obama over and over again about FM/FM.

BadgerHawk on October 7, 2008 at 5:39 PM

Yet another tingle is coming up Chris Matthews’ leg, PerroViejo predicts…

perroviejo on October 7, 2008 at 5:40 PM

MobileVideoEngineer on October 7, 2008 at 5:38 PM

Let’s assume the polls are totally wrong.

That McCain is down 15% in PA, according to some polls, is going to naturally suppress republican votes as they figure “why bother”

That’s the problem. And why polls matter (and why they report polls, instead of actual stories).

lorien1973 on October 7, 2008 at 5:40 PM

LEE ATWATER,

WHERE ARE YOU??????

pherrman on October 7, 2008 at 5:40 PM

The MSM will declare “The One” the winner of tonight’s debate, PerroViejo predicts…

perroviejo on October 7, 2008 at 5:41 PM

 
 
Easy to see the Dark Side , uh, er Pinko Side , well, make that, Left Side is.
 
 
(oh dear …might be interpreted as racist [-)
 
 

ignatzk on October 7, 2008 at 5:41 PM

I get to be Jar Jar Binks. You can’t have him.

Abby Adams on October 7, 2008 at 5:41 PM

October 1860! Buy more Ammo.

bill30097 on October 7, 2008 at 5:41 PM

That bailout worked really well. I think McCain should talk about how well it worked. A lot.

But yes, he does need to hammer Obama over and over again about FM/FM.

BadgerHawk on October 7, 2008 at 5:39 PM

LOL. Would be awesome if McCain followed advice here and voted no. He could point to the recent down stock market as proof it was a bad idea.

Oh well. Coulda woulda shoulda.

lorien1973 on October 7, 2008 at 5:41 PM

John is running as a reformer. Tonight he needs to demonstrate his willingness to take on the establishment in order to retain credibility as such. He has to be specific and ruthless. Collegial PC to the old order will sink his ship, and probably deservedly so.

a capella on October 7, 2008 at 5:41 PM

And now all that has gone away? Politics doesn’t work like that.

Of course it works like that. Remember Bush I? Remember the moment he lost re-election? It was when he signed what was then the largest tax increase in American history.

Political fortunes can change on a dime. McCain’s have changed with the economic crisis.

paul006 on October 7, 2008 at 5:42 PM

MobileVideoEngineer on October 7, 2008 at 5:38 PM

WI is having voter fraud issues right now, too. Democrats are fighting a law that would require poll workers to verify ID and residence before allowing people to vote. As it is now, you can show up and register at the polling place, on election day, without proof of residence.

There are also current accusations against ACORN (along with a dozen other states). Their offices were just raided in Vegas.

BadgerHawk on October 7, 2008 at 5:43 PM

I get to be Jar Jar Binks. You can’t have him.

Abby Adams on October 7, 2008 at 5:41 PM

You can have him. Naboo is getting carpetbombed anyway. Damn Gungans.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 5:43 PM

Man, who to be who to be.

Are there female Wookies? I don’t remember seeing them, but it could be possible!

Arrrgggg Yaarrrgggg… Arrrgggeeeee.

upinak on October 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM

Oh well. Coulda woulda shoulda.

lorien1973 on October 7, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Combine a NO vote with not suspending his campaign and talking about postponing the first debate, and he might still be ahead in the polls.

BadgerHawk on October 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM

Let’s assume the polls are totally wrong.

That McCain is down 15% in PA, according to some polls, is going to naturally suppress republican votes as they figure “why bother”

That’s the problem. And why polls matter (and why they report polls, instead of actual stories).

lorien1973 on October 7, 2008 at 5:40 PM

This is what bothers me about some republicans (if this truly happens). I wouldn’t care if they had Obama winning Ohio by 25, I would still go out to vote.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM

Panic, not one time in he history of mankind has ever helped anything, only made things worse. Panic is wasted effort.

I can remember a time McCain was nearly in last place during the Primaries. So while I’m not inclined to start doing backflips, I have reserved optimism. Just my personal opinion.

Hog Wild on October 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM

By the way, should we take advice — any kind of advice — from a grown man who calls himself Obi-Wan Kenobi?

paul006 on October 7, 2008 at 5:45 PM

first rule in politics attack their strengths and make them yours. the economic problems are dems fault. attack attack attack.

unseen on October 7, 2008 at 5:46 PM

MobileVideoEngineer on October 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM

Human nature. Remember in 2000. The networks called Florida for Gore before the polls in the panhandle even closed. So, voter turn out was much lower than it could have been. And since the panhandle is way republican, it made the vote count closer than it should have been.

BadgerHawk on October 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM

Yep. For pointing that out on the day he suspended, some of us got raked over the coals pretty hard. Who was right? Who was wrong?

lorien1973 on October 7, 2008 at 5:47 PM

The pollsters are just lining up rigged poll results with expected ACORN rigged election results.

Have to keep your ducks in a row, dontcha know.

Montana on October 7, 2008 at 5:48 PM

The DNC is polling in WA. I got a call about an hour ago asking only about my vote for POTUS and governor. The caller was somewhat inaudible/mumbling half the time, so I didn’t figure out that it was the DNC until she played their “paid for” disclaimer at the end of the call. If I had known it was the DNC, I would have told them 100% Obama/Gregoire all the way!!!!

If this was a GOTV call instead of use for internal polling, then they are not very good at it.

rw on October 7, 2008 at 5:49 PM

Time to panic? Not for young Jedis

Obi-Wan Kenobi advises all young conservative Jedis to get a grip on their Force, and put panic aside.

When science fiction cartoon characters have to be brought in to try “cheer the troops”, I would say that it’s probably time to embrace Custer.

MB4 on October 7, 2008 at 5:54 PM

Yes, but I wish there were a couple of more debates with Palin.

Y-not on October 7, 2008 at 5:38 PM

I wish Palin could debate Obambi, would have him crying in no time

neuquenguy on October 7, 2008 at 5:54 PM

By the way, should we take advice — any kind of advice — from a grown man who calls himself Obi-Wan Kenobi?

paul006 on October 7, 2008 at 5:45 PM

I think that’s the name Geraghty chose, not Obi himself.

Wethal on October 7, 2008 at 5:56 PM

BadgerHawk:

If they had not passed that bill the market could be in even worse shape, probably would be in fact and guess who would get blamed? The Republicans of course. In fact if they had passed the first bill when they first had a chance instead of jacking around for days and days we might be better off.

But the truth is the bill was just passed a couple of working days ago and it will take time for any of the measures in the bill to take effect.

Terrye on October 7, 2008 at 5:56 PM

I wish Palin could debate Obambi, would have him crying in no time

neuquenguy on October 7, 2008 at 5:54 PM

On second thought, that might solidify his metrosexual base.

neuquenguy on October 7, 2008 at 5:56 PM

SilverStar830 on October 7, 2008 at 5:33 PM

Bless you – I had a great laugh at your post – thanks.

jake-the-goose on October 7, 2008 at 5:58 PM

Very optimistic this is, far from Allah’s pessimism you are, hmmm?

Illuminous beings are we, not this crud pessimistic banter. Yes, illuminous are we.

Fear, desperation, anxiety, emotion the path to the Dark Side, they are.

The Left is driven by emotion, consumed by the Dark Side, they have become.

TheHat on October 7, 2008 at 5:58 PM

lorien:

To be honest I find a lot of the constant nitpicking and second guessing to be more depressing than the polls.

The truth is the Republicans in Congress started a down hill slide for the party back in 2006 and the mood still favors Democrats, even in the generics. All that means is that no matter who the candidate was chances are it would be a tough year.

That is just the reality.

Terrye on October 7, 2008 at 5:59 PM

If Mac appears at the debate wearing a Boba Fett outfit, I will donate $10,000 to the RNC.

Bishop on October 7, 2008 at 6:00 PM

I question the timing of the financial crisis.

I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of mortages cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

29Victor on October 7, 2008 at 6:00 PM

Though I was fed up with McCain beginning with the “fundamentals” comment (reassuring, but dopey to say publicly), for whatever reason, I woke up on Friday somewhat optimistic. I was pained by some of the McCain campaign’s public announcements this past weekend, but I was lifted by Palin’s bluntness during the week end as well. Then, I was reinvigorated once I heard that McCain was finally blaming the correct villians and that Obama’s allies (not mere associations) were going to be resurrected for the general campaign–as opposed to the showing for the primaries.

Before the debate, you might take the time to consider the story written by Hans Christian Anderson, “The Emperor’s New Clothes.” Maybe an analogy to Obama isn’t squarely on all fours, but I always think of this story when I think of Obama.

And, for this election, I’d submit that Governor Palin is our little boy whose innocence and candor prompt him to finally point out that the emperor’s new clothes are really no clothes at all. Keep in mind, it often takes some time, but once the notion takes hold, it can open the eyes of many.

If you’re someone of faith, consider a prayer between now and the time the debate begins. We and our country are tremendously fortunate. I think an Obama administration will take us down roads that we’ll forever regret. We need some divine assistance to turn the campaign around. That said, if we are able to do so and if we are able to win, we need to be vigilant to ensure that our leaders never screw something up as badly as they have our current economic situation.

Here’s the link to the story.

http://deoxy.org/emperors.htm

Fire up.

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2008 at 6:01 PM

On second thought, that might solidify his metrosexual base.
neuquenguy on October 7, 2008 at 5:56 PM

You mean 95% of all democrat/liberal men?

Bishop on October 7, 2008 at 6:01 PM

I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of mortages cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
29Victor on October 7, 2008 at 6:00 PM

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

-cough cough cough ack swallow cough-

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Bishop on October 7, 2008 at 6:02 PM

MB4:

I would say when a so-called conservative consistently cheers for the liberal Democrat and does a metaphorical jig at the idea of the Republican getting beat, it is time for the so-called conservative to admit he is a fraud and a moby.

Terrye on October 7, 2008 at 6:02 PM

This is what bothers me about some republicans (if this truly happens). I wouldn’t care if they had Obama winning Ohio by 25, I would still go out to vote.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM

Indeed. I’m still going to case my utterly worthless ballot here in Illinois. Still no reason battleground state folks can’t get everyone out too.

Hannibal Smith on October 7, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Stay optimistic. The worst thing we the faithful can do is let doubt creep in. Polls are frequently stacked and notoriously unreliable. And even if they aren’t or weren’t, keep executing to plan.

…And worse case scenario, if the empty suit wins we’ll still survive. The country will survive. I’ve heard lots of doomsday scenarios, but the country survived, Carter, LBJ, FDR (pre-war), Wilson… Hell the country survived a CIVIL WAR for crying out loud. One punk will not sink us.

We’ll have plenty of clean up to do, sure. But, the country will survive. I have faith, and you should too. These are not he end days, and if they are you have LESS to worry about, not more!

hburns on October 7, 2008 at 6:05 PM

In the end, with voters livid over the cost of the financial crisis, I somehow don’t believe that they will turn to a man who will raise taxes, spend hundreds of billions more, and has never had a leadership position in his life.

I just had a conversation with someone today who said the same thing–in a crisis, who is going to go with the inexperienced guy?

He gave an example: “Would a company in dire straights and losing money fire their CEO and turn to a recent college graduate off the streets?”

m064404 on October 7, 2008 at 6:05 PM

Very balanced, and sober analysis, AP. As always, well done.

Weight of Glory on October 7, 2008 at 6:06 PM

29Victor on October 7, 2008 at 6:00 PM

That was my Wookie inpression, and someone started choking me.

upinak on October 7, 2008 at 6:08 PM

5. Your PC will ask you: ‘Do you really want to get rid of ‘Barack Obama?’

6. Firmly Click ‘Yes.’

7. Feel better?

SilverStar830 on October 7, 2008 at 5:33 PM

ROTFL. Now you know how to run a Help desk!

I need a macro to create folders for all the democrats in congress.

Right_of_Attila on October 7, 2008 at 6:08 PM

If Mac appears at the debate wearing a Boba Fett outfit, I will donate $10,000 to the RNC.

Bishop on October 7, 2008 at 6:00 PM

I’m kind of hoping for something out of Braveheart–he’s going to pick a fight. If not Braveheart, then Gladiator–”Brothers, what we do in life…echoes in eternity.”

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2008 at 6:08 PM

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2008 at 6:08 PM

Hmmmm Gladiator! WOO HOO, hold on I need my binky rag as I start drooling for Gladiator.

upinak on October 7, 2008 at 6:09 PM

When science fiction cartoon characters have to be brought in to try “cheer the troops”, I would say that it’s probably time to embrace Custer.

MB4 on October 7, 2008 at 5:54 PM

“Damn, that’s a lot of Indians.”

Cicero43 on October 7, 2008 at 6:10 PM

(That famous day in blogging history the men and women of the Hotair Internet Cavalry went riding on)
(And from the rear a voice was heard)
(A brave young man with a trembling word rang loud and clear)
What am I doin’ here??

Please Mr. Morrissey, I don’t wanna go
Hey, Mr. Morrissey, please don’t make me go
I had a dream last night about the comin’ election fight
Somebody yelled “attack!”
And there I stood with an ACORN arrow in my back.

Please Mr. Morrissey, I don’t wanna go (forward Ho!!)–aaww

SPOKEN: Look at them bushes out there
They’re moving and there’s an Obama supporter behind every one
Hey, Mr. Morrissey-you mind if I be excused the rest of this election?
HEY ALLAHPUNDIT, DUCK YER HEAD!!
Hmm, you’re a little bit late on that one, Allahpunit
Hooh, I bet that smarts!

(They were sure of victory, the men and women of the Hotair Internet Cavalry, as they commented on)

(But then from the rear a voice was heard)
(That same brave voice with the trembling word rang loud and clear)
What am I doin’ here??

Please Mr. Morrissey, I don’t wanna go
Listen, Mr. Morrissey, please don’t make me go
There’s a democrat a’waitin’ out there, just fixin to take my hair
A coward I’ve been called cuz I don’t wanna wind up dead or bald

Please Mr. Morrissey, I don’t wanna go (forward HO)–aaww

SPOKEN: I wonder what the Ebonics word for friend is
Let’s see-friend– kemo sabe, that’s it
KEMO SABE!, HEY OUT THERE-KEMO SABE!
Nope, that itn’t it
Look at them durned democrats
They’re runnin’ around like a bunch of wild Liberals-heh, heh, heh
Nah, this ain’t no time for jokin’

MB4 on October 7, 2008 at 6:11 PM

”Brothers, what we do in life…echoes in eternity.”

Yes, good choice. Those words might have even greater meaning for us if Obarko gets elected.

Bishop on October 7, 2008 at 6:11 PM

Indeed. I’m still going to case my utterly worthless ballot here in Illinois. Still no reason battleground state folks can’t get everyone out too.

Hannibal Smith on October 7, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Some of the Columbus stations and the Dispatch are spewing out the Survey USA poll that says Obama leads by 7 in Ohio.

I’m sorry, but with the demographics of this state, I just do not see that happening. Even with voter fraud, I think if Obama does win Ohio, it’ll be by less than 1.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 7, 2008 at 6:12 PM

get a grip on their Force

In public? For shame!

TheUnrepentantGeek on October 7, 2008 at 6:13 PM

He gave an example: “Would a company in dire straights and losing money fire their CEO and turn to a recent college graduate off the streets?”

m064404 on October 7, 2008 at 6:05 PM

Ah, if logic or critical thinking made any difference to 51% of the electorate we would have nothing to worry about. This thing would have been over a long time ago.

neuquenguy on October 7, 2008 at 6:13 PM

MB4:

I would say when a so-called conservative consistently cheers for the liberal Democrat and does a metaphorical jig at the idea of the Republican getting beat, it is time for the so-called conservative to admit he is a fraud and a moby.

Terrye on October 7, 2008 at 6:02 PM

mmm hmmm

but again, please quit talking to it. you only keep it around here longer

funky chicken on October 7, 2008 at 6:14 PM

upinak on October 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM

You don’t remember them because Lucas deep-sixed the Star Wars Holiday Special. Otherwise you would have met Chewbacca’s family, Father Itchy, Wife Malla and Son Lumpy.

scrub_oak on October 7, 2008 at 6:16 PM

By the way, can someone please explain to me when pointing out someone’s unbelievable weaknesses is “going negative” and divisive?

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2008 at 6:17 PM

AJStrata at http://www.strata-sphere.com has mentioned Operation Chaos and how many reps switched to dem to vote against Obama even though they had no intention of voting democrat ever. They shift the ratio of dems to reps in the polling formulas. Anybody know what kind of Operation Chaos numbers there are? Is it enough to make the polling formulas even more badly skewed than they usually are?

I think most Americans will react to Obama like they reacted to Mohammad Atta, if they are given the chance to clearly see what he would like to do to this great country. That’s the only question I have. It’s more hopeful when even Alec Baldwin and CNN are correcting some of the media’s lying hype.

justincase on October 7, 2008 at 6:19 PM

He tells Jim that any slippage by Obama in the polls will appear like a catastrophe for the in-the-bag media, and he could get hammered by the appearance of being a loser.

This is enough for me to ignore the rest. The media will not report a “catastrophe” of any type. It will take any such gain by McCain and damn it with faint praise.

The media is not “in the tank” for Obama. It’s working for Obama in all but name.

spmat on October 7, 2008 at 6:20 PM

By the way, can someone please explain to me when pointing out someone’s unbelievable weaknesses is “going negative” and divisive?

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2008 at 6:17 PM

Because The One must be exalted. We cannot allow unnecessary criticism weaken our faith and that of our fellow comrades. We must allways act for the good of the collective.

neuquenguy on October 7, 2008 at 6:24 PM

Are there mountains that surround us?
Are there walls that block the way?
Knock ‘em down, strip ‘em back boys
And forward and into the fray
Into terror, into valour
Charge ahead, no, never turn
Yes, it’s into the fire we fly
And the devil will burn
Someone has to face the valley
Rush in, we have to rally and win boys
When the world is saying not to
By God, you know you’ve got to march on, boys
Never hold back your step for a moment
Never doubt that your courage will grow
Hold your head ever higher and into the fire we go

Let the lightning strike
Let the flash of it shock you
Choke your fears away
Pull as tight as a wire
Let the fever spike
Let the force of it rock you
We will have our day, sailing into the fire

Tav on October 7, 2008 at 6:26 PM

neuquenguy on October 7, 2008 at 6:24 PM

It’s time for McCain and Palin to smash Obama and the media in the mouth.

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2008 at 6:27 PM

MB4:

I would say when a so-called conservative consistently cheers for the liberal Democrat and does a metaphorical jig at the idea of the Republican getting beat, it is time for the so-called conservative to admit he is a fraud and a moby.

Terrye on October 7, 2008 at 6:02 PM

mmm hmmm

but again, please quit talking to it. you only keep it around here longer

funky chicken on October 7, 2008 at 6:14 PM

Don’t look conspicuous, it draws fire.

Murphy9 on October 7, 2008 at 6:30 PM

Indeed. I’m still going to case my utterly worthless ballot here in Illinois. Still no reason battleground state folks can’t get everyone out too.

Hannibal Smith on October 7, 2008 at 6:03 PM

I’m in Illinois too, and I totally agree with you Hannibal. We can’t let the media and the polls get us downhearted. Vote, no matter what the MSM says on election day.

Mulligan on October 7, 2008 at 6:30 PM

It’s time for McCain and Palin to smash Obama and the media in the mouth.

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2008 at 6:27 PM

No matter how hard you try, you cannot push a string.

Murphy9 on October 7, 2008 at 6:32 PM

AJStrata at http://www.strata-sphere.com has mentioned Operation Chaos and how many reps switched to dem to vote against Obama even though they had no intention of voting democrat ever. They shift the ratio of dems to reps in the polling formulas. *Anybody know what kind of Operation Chaos numbers there are?* Is it enough to make the polling formulas even more badly skewed than they usually are?

I think most Americans will react to Obama like they reacted to Mohammad Atta, if they are given the chance to clearly see what he would like to do to this great country. That’s the only question I have. It’s more hopeful when even Alec Baldwin and CNN are correcting some of the media’s lying hype.

justincase on October 7, 2008 at 6:19 PM

You just described both adults in this Pennsylvania household.

battleoflepanto1571 on October 7, 2008 at 6:33 PM

By the way, can someone please explain to me when pointing out someone’s unbelievable weaknesses is “going negative” and divisive?

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2008 at 6:17 PM

Anyone who isn’t paranoid simply isn’t paying attention.

Murphy9 on October 7, 2008 at 6:34 PM

The only thing detached from reality are the NeoCon’s. Oh wait! You forgot! The polls are all BIASED! Except for that charming AOL thing that only polls retarded people with dial-up modems. You know them? The GOP Base?

WestCoastLibtard on October 7, 2008 at 6:35 PM

Are there female Wookies? I don’t remember seeing them, but it could be possible! – upinak on October 7, 2008 at 5:44 PM

They’re the ones with the shaved…um….nevermind.

ManlyRash on October 7, 2008 at 6:36 PM

<Gladiator – BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2008 at 6:08 PM

For years I used to think that was the decription of a Roman soldier after an orgy…

ManlyRash on October 7, 2008 at 6:39 PM

You Gringos are all muy estupido. Instead of wasting your time on hoping for either of the candidates to win you must know by now that both of them are in mi bolsillo and you should be spending your free time el aprendizaje del Espanol!

VinyFoxy on October 7, 2008 at 6:40 PM

I get to be Jar Jar Binks. You can’t have him.

Abby Adams on October 7, 2008 at 5:41 PM

Oh my, I remember the uproar from some people about how they thought the Jar Jar character was an ethnic slam…so be careful Abby, the “truth squad” may “detain” you for being racist!

Liberty or Death on October 7, 2008 at 6:42 PM

Obama’s support is thin and fragile, much like the man himself. He is up in the polls not through any action on his part, simply because the economy is tanking. Yet, if you look at the poll numbers for the generic Democrat vs. the generic Republican, that difference is still greater than Obama’s advantage over McCain. So, we are still back at the same old buyer’s remorse dilemma that Obama had this summer.

During this election McCain has basically been at the business end of a fire hose, and yet he is still within striking distance. Why? Obama is a lousy candidate. His negatives are just itching for release.

EMD on October 7, 2008 at 6:43 PM

By the way, can someone please explain to me when pointing out someone’s unbelievable weaknesses is “going negative” and divisive?

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2008 at 6:17 PM

When the somebody with the incredible weaknesses is a democrat.

funky chicken on October 7, 2008 at 6:44 PM

MB4 on October 7, 2008 at 6:11 PM

ROFLMAO!! I thought I was the only one who remembered that song.

Ed Morrissey on October 7, 2008 at 6:44 PM

MB4 on October 7, 2008 at 6:11 PM

ROFLMAO!! I thought I was the only one who remembered that song.

Ed Morrissey on October 7, 2008 at 6:44 PM

I thought he was just messin’ around, but someone wrote that up before?

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 6:50 PM

By the way, can someone please explain to me when pointing out someone’s unbelievable weaknesses is “going negative” and divisive?

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2008 at 6:17 PM

I reckon that if you point out the negatives before the decision is made. while there is still time to change the course of action, then it is constructive criticism and quite likely a worthwile thing to do.

Once the course is set then all energy needs to be directed to achieving the goal. The negatives might still be there, but talking about them will no longer be constructive criticism, but simply tiresome chaffing that takes attention away from what needs to be done and demoralizes the people who need to do it.

So, if you follow my reckoning, the remarks that were constructive criticism before the decision point will be “going negative” and “divisive” after the decision point.

YiZhangZhe on October 7, 2008 at 6:51 PM

McCain needs to step up to the plate and blame the Fannie and Freddie mess on Democrats, and explain it well. Then he needs to hit Obama over his “reducing taxes for 95%” as total BS, since Obama always VOTED for tax INCREASES, how can people expect him to do a 180 and ask for a tax cut as President? After that, pivot to energy and foreign policy, throw in a little Ayers/ACORN stuff if it comes up. Advice from Bill Clinton: It’s the economy, stupid!

AJStrata at http://www.strata-sphere.com has mentioned Operation Chaos and how many reps switched to dem to vote against Obama even though they had no intention of voting democrat ever. They shift the ratio of dems to reps in the polling formulas. Anybody know what kind of Operation Chaos numbers there are? Is it enough to make the polling formulas even more badly skewed than they usually are?

AJ Strata has been onto something here. A few days ago, he posted something about most of the major pollsters expecting a much more Democrat electorate than before, but that voter-registration statistics by party weren’t much changed from 2006. He quotes another blogger, who has applied internals from the public polls to the actual 2006 electorate (which wasn’t very favorable to Republicans, since we lost Congress), and the overall results still show McCain ahead by less than 1%.

The only poll that counts is November 4.

Steve Z on October 7, 2008 at 6:52 PM

By the way, can someone please explain to me when pointing out someone’s unbelievable weaknesses is “going negative” and divisive?

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2008 at 6:17 PM

For years the Left has been trying – and in some cases, such as McCain, succeeding – in convincing the Right that they way for Conservatives to win elections is to aim for the Undecideds, the Moderates, and the like, and that these groups do not like partisanship and negative campaigning. It’s never stopped the LEFT from launching negative or partisan attacks, but apparently it’s “the way” for those on the Right to go.

Of course there are those of us who know better. Unfortunately our candidate is not one of them.

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 6:54 PM

From the latest thread, but worth posting here because of relevance:

All that said, I still agree with Ross Douthat. As a left jab, the attacks on Obama’s character via Ayers, Wright, etc., are fine. But we’re down big on points right now and need an economic right hook. Where is it? – Darth Allah

Leave that to McCain, my Dark Master. He will deal with the Obi-ONE on this issue. Darth Palin will attack him on the others. Darkness will prevail. – Darth Rash

(sound of ominous mechanical breathing as dramatic music fades in and reaches crescendo)

ManlyRash on October 7, 2008 at 6:51 PM

ManlyRash on October 7, 2008 at 6:54 PM

Yeah, Larry Verne did the original of Please Mr. Custer.
Ray Stevens (”Gitarzan”, “The Streak”) also did a version.

either orr on October 7, 2008 at 6:56 PM

Steve Z:

I saw this at AJ’s:

It seems McCain is not the only one who took a hit in the public eye on the financial bailout – Obama is also starting to lose ground. Two recent polls show the erosion. First is a Democracy Corps poll I noted in an earlier post, which has some interesting internals. On key issues Obama has lost his edge:

* Shares Your Values: 47-47 (a tie)
* Independent: 43-46 (+3 McCain)
* Strong Leader: 42-51 (+9 McCain)
* Economy: 49-43 (-6 McCain)
* Stands Up To Special Interests: 45-44 (-1 McCain)
* National Security: 34-60 (+26 McCain)
* Financial Crisis: 46-44 (-2 McCain)

What these illustrate is the fact McCain and Obama are becoming equals on economic issues, but McCain is getting kudos for being a strong and independent leader, and huge kudos on national security.

The second poll is the Diageo/Hotline Poll which also shows massive erosion for Obama:

After trailing by 5-7 pts. for the last 10 days, McCain is now just 2 pts. behind Obama.

Obama’s one-time lead on the question of who’d best handle the economy has evaporated. Today, Obama and McCain are tied at 42%. Independent voters favor McCain on the economy by an 8 pt. margin (42-34%).

That is a precipitous drop going from +7 to +2 (basically a tie) in only a few days. I am not surprised to see this “a pox on both your houses” attitude hitting the public. The ‘bailout’ did not give immediate gratification and stop the hemorrhaging on Wall Street. Dick Morris was right when he predicted the race would tighten, though I doubt even he thought it would be this quick. If Obama loses his edge on the economy he probably cannot pull out a win. Morris may be right on another angle here – Obama peaked too soon.

Terrye on October 7, 2008 at 7:03 PM

I don’t think most Americans are stupid, I think most Americans are just not obsessively following the news like we do here. Their decisions can only be as good as their information. With the horsesh!t the MSM is providing them, it’s no surprise a lot of people appear ready to make a horsesh!t decision.

How many fair minded and hard working people do you who think it’s ok to hang out with terrorists, felons and racists? Probably not many. How many of those same people REALLY know about Ayers, Rezko and Wright? They probably have some idea about Wright, maybe have heard the name Ayers and have no clue who Rezko is or why he’s relevant.

Just the other day at work a non-political guy who follows current events asked me if I had seen that CSPAN footage with the crats defending FM/FM and Raines. He told me they’re really screwed if more people see it. Thre are a LOT of people who pay less attention than him, so that gives me hope.

Have faith in the American people, folks. One of the captions on the site today said something about ‘information wants to be free.’ If the information gets out there (and that is up to us) then McCain will win next month.

And if not then I look forward to meeting some of you at the reeducation camps!

hump1201 on October 7, 2008 at 7:05 PM

Grue:

That song might be before your time. I remember I was a kid when it came out and I have not been a kid for a long long time.

Please Mr. Custer
I don’t wanna go
There’s a red man waitin out there
ready to take my hair…..

or something like that.

Not exactly PC.

Terrye on October 7, 2008 at 7:06 PM

Time to panic? Not for young Jedis

I believe all the young Jedis were slaughtered.

I sense a great disturbance in the force. It’s as though billions of tax dollars were crying out all at once.

Mojave Mark on October 7, 2008 at 7:08 PM

I am a Republican… as Coulter says, from the Republican wing of the Republican party. I fully expect McCain to win huge… I’ve said it hundreds of times.

Now, that said, if I wake up Nov 5 to find what’s his name in office, I will still be happy every day. I will still prosper. I will still fish offshore. I will find a way, whatever the “new boss” does or says to be happy and make my life a good one. On that same day, the liberal jerkwads that somehow think their life will be transformed will find that weed won’t be cheaper and that their lives will not be magically lifted. They will continue to fail at life. They will continue to be miserable and unhappy… if truth be told, probably more so since they continually look to government for things that government can never provide. Government does not provide a sense of self worth and accomplishment.

CC

CapedConservative on October 7, 2008 at 7:12 PM

Young Jedis must stand strong against the forces of the Evil Master of the Dark Side Of The Force, Darth Soros!

pilamaye on October 7, 2008 at 7:14 PM

Please Mr. Custer
I don’t wanna go
There’s a red man waitin out there
ready to take my hair…..

or something like that.

Not exactly PC.

Terrye on October 7, 2008 at 7:06 PM

When an Indian fights, he only shoots to kill.

Hinmahtooyahlatkek on October 7, 2008 at 7:15 PM

“Any pessimism now is dumbness,” he said as he appeared to me recently. “A few weeks ago every swing state was coming McCain’s way and he had a national lead. And some polls showed him four points and six points behind in New Jersey and New York. And now all that has gone away? Politics doesn’t work like that. The American people, even in the midst of an unprecented economic crisis, don’t react like that for any sustained period. Those patterns can reassert themselves.”

A wise Jedi he may be, but Obi Wan? The syntax is all wrong. Here’s how Obi Wan would have said it:

Dumbness any pessimism now is. McCain’s way every swing state a few weeks ago coming was. A national lead had he. Four points and six points behind in New Jersey and New York some polls showed him. Away all that has gone? Work like that politics does not. Even in the midst of an unprecented economic crisis, react like that for any sustained period, the American people do not. Reassert themselves those patterns can.

Disturb the Universe on October 7, 2008 at 7:23 PM

Fix some more for you I will:

First, have a good debate Obama did not. What he needed to do did not he. Reassuring be. Shaky his gestalt was.

Disturb the Universe on October 7, 2008 at 7:27 PM

May the farce be with Obama….

CC

CapedConservative on October 7, 2008 at 7:30 PM

CapedConservative on October 7, 2008 at 7:12 PM

Well stated! Bravo…

Keemo on October 7, 2008 at 7:30 PM

Disturb the Universe on October 7, 2008 at 7:23 PM

Disturb the Universe on October 7, 2008 at 7:27 PM

Oops. Sorry. I went all Yoda on you. The Jedi was Obi Wan. I saw the pic of Yoda and started channeling him.

Disturb the Universe on October 7, 2008 at 7:33 PM

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