Survey USA: Obama by 15 in Pennsylvania
posted at 2:01 pm on October 7, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Another horrifying SUSA state poll that oversamples Dems (50/39), another lead so wide that even a correctly weighted sample probably still equals a double-digit advantage for The One. Quinnipiac also had him by 15 last week and something called Morning Call Tracking has him up 10. The RCP spread: 11 points, four more than the current margin in Michigan, where Maverick’s already abandoned ship.
The most alarming number:
Obama today leads among PA men and women, young and old, rich and poor, more educated and less educated. McCain leads among Republicans, conservatives, pro-life voters, and gun owners. 21% of Republicans cross over to vote for Obama; 16% of Democrats cross over to vote for McCain. Independents break 2:1 for Obama.
The CBS poll last night had McCain marginally ahead among indies nationally so maybe this is an outlier, but I’m not sure what to make of the idea that Obama’s suddenly pulling more Republicans than McCain is Democrats. It’s been the opposite all year thanks to the PUMAs. But if that number’s an outlier too, why were there also more Obamicans than McCainocrats in the Virginia and New Hampshire polls from yestrerday? Given that Rasmussen has The One by eight and Gallup by nine, it’s probably CBS that’s the outlier, not SUSA.
Exit question: What would qualify as a gamechanger tonight? Gingrich and Rich Lowry agree that the only way out lies through a compelling economic message, but the economy’s always been a subplot to Maverick’s campaign. To remake his whole candidacy as an economic warrior a month out from election day would feel like a, er, stunt, but what choice does he have?
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Let’s do what Limbaugh did in 2000. Stick with the poll that shows your guy ahead (in that case, Battleground). That poll will be the one to rely on for the duration of the campaign, and all other polls are to be considered biased and/or outliers.
YYZ on October 7, 2008 at 2:40 PM
No, this is just another example of shoddy editing…it was just a simple typo.
What they meant to say is MCCAIN/PALIN up 15% in Pa.
Oh well, too late to change it now.
SaintOlaf on October 7, 2008 at 2:41 PM
I am not believing these polls one bit.
21% Republican crossover. Yeah right.
Drill_Thrawl on October 7, 2008 at 2:41 PM
Not to depress the doom and gloomers but Fox said their poll says 10% undecided, but a full 25% said they could change mind before the vote. That’s a ton of mobility.
Spirit of 1776 on October 7, 2008 at 2:41 PM
I don’t believe the polls. I really don’t. It’s all stacked FOR Obama. The media’s in the tank for him so why not the polls?
If they’re registering voters in Ohio with no proof of ANYTHING and then driving them to vote, then I can safely choose to NOT believe in the polls.
You think our country’s been divided since Bush won in 2000 and then again in 2004, just wait until after November 4th. We’ll be hopelessly and forevermore split. If McCain wins, then OMG, the DEM’s heads will explode. It will be a racist coup ya know. If Obama wins, I’m telling you right now, he will NOT be my president and I know I’m not alone in my thoughts. The DEMS will be infuriated that we feel that way about the Messiah. They’ll accuse us of dissing THE ONE. It will be a split we will never overcome (or at least in no time soon.)
Oink on October 7, 2008 at 2:42 PM
Whoa, whoa guys stop w/the Pennsylvanians elect Murtha crap. He is elected by his district only. The rest of the state has nothing to say about it. That said, he keeps bringing the pork home, so they keep voting for him.
From Wiki “The 12th Pennsylvania congressional district is located in southwestern Pennsylvania. It is a heavily Gerrymandered district. It consists of all of Greene County, and parts of Allegheny, Armstrong, Cambria, Fayette, Indiana, Somerset, Washington, and Westmoreland Counties.
The district was drawn specifically for Murtha, including many heavily Democratic regions, while leaving more right-leaning Pittsburgh suburban regions to the 4th or 18th district, and rural conservative regions to the 3rd or 9th district.”
JAM on October 7, 2008 at 2:43 PM
I remember the 2000 elections. I was hanging on Rasmussen’s every word – after all he’d been all over Fox and he knew what he was doing. Bush had it won but it would be close. Yeah, right.
These polls are a pile of crap. The only one that matters is on election day, and the exit polling is crap that day as well, ie, the folks calling states for Kerry based on exit polls.
AubieJon on October 7, 2008 at 2:44 PM
Thankfully I don’t believe a word the scumbag left says.
Hope to see you on the blog tonight.
“Neconette”
lisalj on October 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Nevada authorities raid Las Vegas headquarters of ACORN, organization that works to get low-income people to vote.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Mitt may very well be in the mix but not likely to do any better than he did this time…imho
jerrytbg on October 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM
I am lining up my air horns on a shelf.
All in a row.
Because, when McCain pulls this off, the whole neighborhood is gonna hear my noise. Muahah.
I ignored all polls when they showed McCain ahead and I do the same now. What we are seeing now is the demon spirit flailing around and shrieking before it gets ejected. Keep telling everyone you meet the facts and stay active, that’s all you gotta do.
MarcusBrody on October 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM
21% of GOPers go to Obama?
Come on now, that is just dumb.
Who would believe that?
TheHat on October 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM
AP has become like some of the trolls. He thinks the only way to get attention is to throw out these poll numbers that are slanted towards Obama…controversy gets you attention, but it wears thin with no substance.
AP,you are still a good analyst, I know that Ed has stolen some of your thunder, but you are still worthy of reading. Don’t fall into that trap of thinking you have to be shocking for people to read you. Yes, Ed does a great job, but your ok also, you don’t need to go down this path.
right2bright on October 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Absolutely refuse to believe it.
Akzed on October 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM
Don’t believe it
According to major American polling organizations Obama is so far ahead of John McCain that some pundits are predicting a landslide – and I am too: but for McCain/Palin.
There’s an emotional bias to this: I simply don’t believe Americans are stupid enough to vote Obama into office – but then I couldn’t believe anyone would vote for Clinton over the first President Bush either.
Luckily, there’s a more rational basis too: specifically, I think there’s some evidence that there’s something fundamentally wrong with polling these days – and it’s possible to guess that the underlying cause is a difference in willingness to answer polls between the two sides.
The evidence is based on human behavior, specifically on a consequence of Leon Festinger’s theory of cognitive dissonance. That theory predicts that people will seek out information confirming already held views while actively avoiding contrary information.
Consider, with this in mind, the complete contradiction between the polling numbers reported with respect to attitudes toward Sarah Palin and the actual turnout and enthusiasm you see everywhere she turns up. The polls are uniformly negative but the reality is that Republican organizers can’t find stadiums big enough to hold the crowds she draws.
Similarly polls done for movie studios uniformly show the strongest market for anti-war movies since the end of the sixties – but the actual movies flub horribly at the box office.
The dissonance reducing behavior predicted by Festinger’s theory has been demonstrated many times – and not least by the success of sites like the dailykos and hotair.com. But, if the polls are right, movies like Zucker’s An American Carol should be box office failures – and things like Redacted blockbusters – while John McCain and Sarah Palin should draw only a handful of depressed supporters to major market events.
Since the theory suggests a disconnect between polling results and what we’re seeing people spend time and money on, we have two choices: either the theory is wrong, or the polls are wrong.
A lot of people have put a lot of effort into debunking Festinger’s theory – but, in general, its predictions seem to hold up.
When we look at the polls, however, the field is both much more varied and much more questionable – it’s easy, for example, for a very small group of committed people to mislead panel surveys by working on a few panel members, or for a slightly larger group to mislead pollsters relying on random samples by giving misleading answers on the questions used to compute sample weights.
And what that tells me, is that the polls are wrong.
Paul Murphy on October 7, 2008 at 2:46 PM
I doubt Obama will win the Scranton area by 10, if at all. McCain will do better than Bush in Pittsburgh and W-PA, and the tie in Johnstown (Murtha-Russell race) sounds about right. McCain winning Harrisburg? No way. I now live in the Harrisburg area and there’s no way MCain is winning it. The city is heavily D and predominantly black. The suburbs are full of big government stooges. It’s one of the only places in PA where Obama beat Hillary.
Anyway, to come up with a 15% Obama lead from all of this, they must have heavily over-polled the 610 and 215 area codes (Scranton and Philly).
forest on October 7, 2008 at 2:46 PM
Survey USA LOL
That doesn’t even come close to passing the smell test, but it does smell.
Old Hippie Vet on October 7, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Things will even up before the election.
This round of attacks will get a few points, I think.
We still haven’t heard about ACORN, though, and that is an organization that the majority of Americans would detest, and Obama will be forced to throw them under the bus if it was brought up. Let Palin trot it out, next week.
WisCon on October 7, 2008 at 2:48 PM
Excellent news.
philnewkirk on October 7, 2008 at 2:48 PM
Someone reboot the hotair servers. They are slow :(
lorien1973 on October 7, 2008 at 2:49 PM
I didn’t buy the polls in the last election, I certainly don’t put any stock in these polls now. I think the best way to judge what people are thinking and feeling is to look and the crowds that Palin/McCain are pulling in. One look at Palin’s crowds suggests to me that the polls are BS. Her crowds are my polls, and I’m not going to get myself in a tizzy over poll numbers that are as full of cr@p as the MSM.
Besides, like my grandmother always tells me, do you know anyone that is ever polled? I don’t. They aren’t calling me, my family, friends, neighbors, or otherwise.
mauioriginal on October 7, 2008 at 2:49 PM
Wonder which side they’re cheatin for.
Akzed on October 7, 2008 at 2:50 PM
SUSA is crap – and it goes both ways. Does anyone really think Mac is ahead of Obama by a point in Minnesota? This is an overwhelmingly anti-Republican environment, and they want us to believe the only State to not support Ronald Reagan in 1984, despite heavy GOP advertising, is close? Gimme a break.
Damian G. on October 7, 2008 at 2:50 PM
John Mccain:
SaintOlaf on October 7, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Survey USA was found by freepers to be the most accurate of the polling firms.
philnewkirk on October 7, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Something to keep in mind when it comes to PA is the age of people here. It’s an old state, which means people are more likely to rely on the MSM for information. Not a good thing this election. The polls could well be accurate, though I doubt he’s up by 15 here. He’s definitely up though.
We’re only going to be able to counter the MSM by word of mouth, and convincing others to do the same in PA. If you can volunteer for McCain or a down ticket person, do it. We’re also going to have to light a fire under the worthless PA GOP.
doubleplusundead on October 7, 2008 at 2:51 PM
FWIW, Gallup poll in Oct 2000 had Gore 51% Bush 40%.
(likely voters, +/-3%)
artchick on October 7, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Enjoy it while it lasts, Phil.
ManlyRash on October 7, 2008 at 2:52 PM
The Game Changer:
Memo to RNC: In tonights debate,Maverick has to name,names!
This Financial crisis,and how bloody conveinent that this
just happened less than 4 weeks to go before the election
has been nicely ochrestrated by the Liberal Democratic Party
And don’t forget it was Nancy Pelosi,who strutted to the Well,and poisoned the first vote,in a hurry to put the blame on the Republican’s!!
What Team McCain/Palin has to do,is during tonights debate,
every oppurtunity,Maverick has to point,and explain how
the mess was started,and name(Barney,Dodd,Raines,Obama),in
such a way,that those who are mentioned,——————
———–their jaws hit the floor,in utter disbelief and
are agasped that Maverick had the balls to do it!!
Tonight is the first battle of this Political War,with two
more battles(debates)are yet to come,Maverick has to come
out swinging,take no prisoners,and NAME THE NAMES who have
caused a global financial meltdown and even threaten that a
Investigation into the Liberals financial debauchery!!!
Tonight,this debate is more than politics,it is about the
Leader of The Free World in which McCain/Palin cleary
stand for!
McCain,drop the hammer,and name them,
“MAKE THEM FAMOUS”,MAVERICK———————PLEASE!!:)
canopfor on October 7, 2008 at 2:52 PM
Senator Obama is a Christian (unfortunately).
philnewkirk on October 7, 2008 at 2:53 PM
I call shenanigans.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 2:53 PM
I saw mention of a raid on ACORN in Las Vegas above. Screw the race card; McCain needs to tell the country that Obama’s GOTV arm, ACORN, is stealing the election out from underneath their noses. It’s cropping up all over the country.
He needs to point out that FEC is looking into Obama for overseas contributions.
I think these themes will ring consistent with the ad that McGovern is running during the debate about the private- union-vote measure that Obama supports. The bill is unquestionably undemocratic and un-American.
BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2008 at 2:53 PM
The Obama-PA campaign is trying to paint him as a tax-cutting conservative. They’re even citing negative comments made about McCain by National Review.
The Obama-PA campaign literature is truly jaw-dropping in its mendacity — cherry-picking the Tax Policy Center reports and the tax benefit profiles, ignoring McCain’s health care plan tax benefits, etc.
I think Platts is going to coast to reelection in PA19, however.
DrSteve on October 7, 2008 at 2:53 PM
At least, that’s what he says.
ManlyRash on October 7, 2008 at 2:53 PM
You are better that that Carbon Footprint. hang in there SOLDIER! You must put your vote in! This is a play in the media to get us downcast and give up. They want us to say, I will just stay home cause my vote won’t help. BS! Get that chin up! Fight on! This is our country!
Mercy4Me on October 7, 2008 at 2:53 PM
FIFY
Actions speak louder than words
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 2:54 PM
Oh, well there’s a ringing endorsement! You are always good for a laugh, Phil.
capitalist piglet on October 7, 2008 at 2:54 PM
Dude, how much methane you sniffing up Obama’s butt?
Take your head out ffs!
upinak on October 7, 2008 at 2:54 PM
Thanks Paul. Not even Rush made feel as good as you just did. I cannot imagine that this sockpuppet of monsters could get his hands on the reins of power, especially not by the margins being predicted.
O God please NObama.
Akzed on October 7, 2008 at 2:54 PM
You didn’t notice the sarc tag at the end of Carbon’s post.
ManlyRash on October 7, 2008 at 2:54 PM
Oh good, you’re still here – or is your bet with Rywall not come to terms yet? Thought it was come due this past Saturday… or is it this week?
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 2:55 PM
8 years?
philnewkirk on October 7, 2008 at 2:55 PM
The Brady effect is still to be factored in.
csdeven on October 7, 2008 at 2:55 PM
ROFLMAO. What’s that supposed to mean?
a capella on October 7, 2008 at 2:55 PM
Would you LIKE him to be Muslim.. or a Jihadist?
Come on Phil.. lets here it. Tell us what YOU think he is?!
upinak on October 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Unfortunately? That’s one you’re going to have to explain. I could swear I’ve seen you declare that you’re a Christian, and that Jesus was a “community organizer”. [SNICKER.] If you’re a Christian, why would you consider it unfortunate that your candidate says – SAYS – he is one also?
capitalist piglet on October 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM
If it worked before, could work again.
DarkCurrent on October 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM
I’m still laughing about the poll showing McCain with a “double digit lead in Harrisburg”, yet a 15% deficit overall.
Both numbers are wrong. The poll should be filed in the trash can.
If the vote were held today, Obama would probably win by 4-5%. But there’s three weeks left and Ayers and the Democrat Congress’ handling of Fannie and Freddie haven’t been accounted for yet.
Contrary to popular belief among pundits, alot of people still haven’t heard of Ayers – yet.
forest on October 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Who cares, Republicans never win Pennsylvania anyway.
Maxx on October 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Not as much as the err…Heated Carbon emanating from this site’s McPalin fans. :)
philnewkirk on October 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM
I don’t consider Obama a Muslim, but, at best, I consider Obama’s former church a Christian church in name only.
And for Obama to sit in the pews of that church picking his nose for 20 years amid Wright’s ranting nonsense is the height of cowardice or the height of political cynicism or probably both.
BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2008 at 2:57 PM
Black Liberation Theology is Christianity?
LOL!!
It is considered a heretical un-Christian, marxist organization by the Roman Catholic Church.
James Cone founder of Black Liberation Theology
James Cone
No.
Ubama just joined Jeremiah Wrights “church” to get political support and to cover up his islam for his political career going forward.
SaintOlaf on October 7, 2008 at 2:58 PM
I’m Christian. But I don’t like it when our leaders are religious. That’s why I supported McCain in 2000.
philnewkirk on October 7, 2008 at 2:58 PM
So, maybe Michigan is a better choice than Pennsylvania for McCain-Palin resources.
And, Gingrich and Lowry, but Jay Cost is smarter. I think tonight has to be about Do You Really Know Who This Barack Obama Guy Is, Where He’s Come From, and What He Stands For?
JudetheFossil on October 7, 2008 at 2:58 PM
This, sadly, is the kicker – I often wonder if those friends of mine voting for Obama actually know much about his background or if they’ve simply bought into the MSM Design-a-Candidate version. And given the fact that politics (along with religion and finance) is a touchy subject at best and a no-go the majority of the time, I don’t typically get to find out.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 2:58 PM
Not to mention the copious amount of bullsh*t being slung about Obama’s record on the Second Amendment. I hope we can get D-10 and D-11 here in Northeast PA.
doubleplusundead on October 7, 2008 at 2:58 PM
To paraphrase David Farragut, “Da*n the polls…FULL SPEED AHEAD!”
ACORN has been raided in Nevada…more dirt is being dug up on “Bugs” Obama–so much that the MSM is having to work overtime to try to cover it up…McCain now has the opening to zero in on Fannie and Freddie and how Bam Bam has taken their bribes…and Sarah Palin is drawing crowds and knocking it out of the park at her rallies. We’ve got 28 days–that’s forever in politics. Don’t let the polls get you down–instead use them to get your blood flowing.
I don’t know about you guys, but I don’t feel like learning how to sing the “Yes We Can” song of praise for Fearless Leader Obama–do you?
Matt Helm on October 7, 2008 at 2:59 PM
Ties in nicely with Malkin’s piece on how ACORN is still getting a big chunk of the bailout pie, in spite of the slush fund being cancelled.
a capella on October 7, 2008 at 2:59 PM
hey look at my NAME. WTF does it Say. Can you say you have met Obama… I doubt it. I can say I have met Sarah.. and maybe worked with her a time or two. But I can’t wait for you to melt into oblivion when McCain and Sarah get elected. You moose nugget!
upinak on October 7, 2008 at 2:59 PM
I know live in the center of a very red state, but I find it hard to believe that a majority of Americans will vote for The One, regardless of the stupid polls.
txsurveyor on October 7, 2008 at 3:00 PM
Heh, it’s as cringeworthy as the Pledge of Allegiance.
philnewkirk on October 7, 2008 at 3:01 PM
Why does AP even post this bullsh!t? What’s next…results from the DailyKos polls? I just wasted two minutes of my life reading the headline topic and a few comments.
David in ATL on October 7, 2008 at 3:01 PM
You have GOT to be kidding me. Why in heck would you say that? Would you prefer a president who’s atheistic? I may not mind a president who has a different religion than me, but I for one would be rather hesitant to vote for an atheist unless the opposition was THAT bad (IE, Obama-like)… that’s just me though.
A lot of my friends were going to vote for Obama for the exact opposite reason – because he was (apparently) more religious than McCain. The problem is they only know he went to church, not what went on there.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 3:01 PM
McCain needs to take some big risks tonight. Multiple big risks.
We’re near defeat. We need a long bomb for six.
indythinker on October 7, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Or the “Alpha-Omega” march, either.
*SHUDDER*
Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 3:02 PM
I will probably riot if Obama somehow loses this. And by riot I mean eat a big tub of ice cream and be real bitchy for a few days.
philnewkirk on October 7, 2008 at 3:02 PM
Thanks Mercy4Me, I was being sarcastic. I will never give up.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2008 at 3:02 PM
I, too, find it hard to believe. A former POW whose body was beaten almost to shreds for love of his country vs. what? A Marxist who has always been for numero uno.
The choice here should be very simple. But America is being guided to sheep to the Democrat slaughter, with songs of “we’re doing this for The One!”
newton on October 7, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Heh, it’s as cringeworthy as the Pledge of Allegiance.
philnewkirk on October 7, 2008 at 3:01 PM
I would hope you do not live here, in America. If there was ever a time that I would love to kick someone it would be you, and I would drop kick you to the ground!
upinak on October 7, 2008 at 3:03 PM
Um… no he ain’t. Christians don’t provide for chopping up live babies. It’s kinda mutually exclusive.
Akzed on October 7, 2008 at 3:04 PM
But don’t question his patriotism.
carbon_footprint on October 7, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Ditto. Don’t buy it either. There is no way he got creamed in PA with his ‘…guns and religion..” comment and dems are going to switch from Hillary to BO, much less 21% of republicans. Bridge too far on this one to believe.
Starlink on October 7, 2008 at 3:04 PM
The Bradley effect.
csdeven on October 7, 2008 at 3:05 PM
He needs to say something like:
“Now in the past I have said that the Economy wasn’t my strongest suit. But if you look at the mess the Dems in Congress have produced, you’ll see I still have them beat.” Then blast BO and the Dems for blocking his bill on Fannie and all the other waste.
OBQuiet on October 7, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Unsurprisingly. You are as transparent as a beaker of urine. And about as enjoyable to have around.
ManlyRash on October 7, 2008 at 3:05 PM
…. You officially disgust me.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 3:05 PM
Sure, those rural Pennsylvanians, those “bitter gun-and-religion” clingers, are going to vote for The One who insulted them in San Francisco.
Like chickens voting for the fox at their hen house! Sure. I don’t think rural Pennsylvanians should forget it.
newton on October 7, 2008 at 3:06 PM
If he or she shared enough values that I have, of course. I’d prefer a leader who shared more concrete American values than simply worshiping God the same way I do. I go to church for my cues on faith; I don’t need a politician to give me mine. Hence why I liked McCain when he was honest about his secularism.
philnewkirk on October 7, 2008 at 3:06 PM
Not a Bellamy fan? I’m surprised.
DrSteve on October 7, 2008 at 3:06 PM
I know that most of what you post on here is tripe, so I know not to expect too much sense from you, but please don’t cheapen the term Christian by associating it with someone who openly denies the authority of the Bible like OBambi does. Have at least enough class to do that.
AubieJon on October 7, 2008 at 3:07 PM
There we differ (among other things). To me, there is NO more concrete American value than religion. My political viewpoint is BASED on my religious values. I would LOVE to have a member of my church become president, because I would be nearly guaranteed to agree with all of their political policies – because they are rooted in the same system of morals and beliefs.
Someone extremely secular, on the other hand, is more likely to take positions I disagree with, or willing to compromise things I don’t think should be wavered on.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 3:17 PM
BUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE DON’T FREAK OUT ABOUT THE POLLS
Jim Treacher on October 7, 2008 at 3:22 PM
Phil is trying to emulate the world weary disdain/philosophical detachment of the professional coffee house intellectual. Tough to do as a freshman taking Political Philosophy 101.
a capella on October 7, 2008 at 3:22 PM
From the SF Chronicle….
Democratic registration has surged by 13 percent and Republican ranks have shrunk by 1 percent as a record 8.6 million people registered to vote in battleground Pennsylvania in the 2008 presidential election.
Last-minute registrations on Monday, the deadline, still have to be counted, but the total released by Pennsylvania’s State Department already far exceeds the previous record of 8.4 million set in 2004.
Democrats saw an increase of more than 500,000 new voters in the past year. Republicans saw their ranks shrink by about 28,000.
GT on October 7, 2008 at 3:24 PM
I think philnewkirk has his Obama blue shirt and Sam Browne belt all starched, polished, and ready to go when the New Order cometh. Seriously, I put philnewkirk and his ilk in the same category of that reporter that Ayaan Hirsi Ali chewed out–it’s easy to spit at freedom, if all you’ve enjoyed is freedom. Those who have experienced living in freedom, know just how precious a gift it is. Also, he, like so many living today in this country have never really known hard times–but he will under Obama–guaranteed.
Matt Helm on October 7, 2008 at 3:25 PM
THE OCEANS WILL RISE
THE GLACIERS WILL MELT
THE OZONE WILL BURN
AND IT WILL BE OOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUURRRRRR FFFAAAAAUUUUUULLLTT!!!
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 3:26 PM
I guess ACORN has been working overtime in Pennsylvania.
ACORN office in Vegas raided in voter-fraud probe TODAY!!
Maxx on October 7, 2008 at 3:26 PM
I know from reflection that not an inconsequential number of people in PA changed their registration to D to affect the primary. Probably a half-dozen people in my neighborhood, for example. The Hillary signs were not replaced by Obama-Biden signs.
DrSteve on October 7, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Hmm well I am going to go back to work? Should I freak? naaaaaaaaa
upinak on October 7, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Sorry, I meant to say that those who have not enjoyed freedom, know just how precious a gift it is.
To add, freedom truly is worth fighting and dying for. Maybe I’m too old fashioned for the philnewkirks in this country, but I still get a little misty-eyed on hearing the national anthem and taps and I take the words in the Pledge of Allegiance in heart–I guess to philnewkirk I’m an anachronism. I’ll take that and be happy with it. Better an anachronism than someone who cannot or will not see a danger when its staring them in the face. There’s a word for that too–fool.
Matt Helm on October 7, 2008 at 3:30 PM
idiot, reject, willfully stupid, the list goes on.
But that still doesn’t mean I don’t wanna drop kick him to a curb.
upinak on October 7, 2008 at 3:31 PM
That makes two of us. Well said.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Sometimes you gotta break a few eggs….
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Who cares about Pennsylvania? It’s an Obama must-win. It’s a McCain whatever state.
Karol on October 7, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Hey! I just signed on. I LIVE in Pennsylvania, and on my way to work there are 6 McCain lawn signs and only 2 Obama lawn signs.
jay12 on October 7, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Is Tuesday Internet Tough Guy day?
philnewkirk on October 7, 2008 at 3:34 PM
I suppose Obama declaring that Osama bin Laden had some good ideas would be a “gamechanger” but Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews would probably still declare McCain the loser.
Speedwagon82 on October 7, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Heh. Typical leftist tactic… “I said something foolish so instead of doing the smart thing and taking it back, I’m going to insult you all and try to make you look like idiots.”
Smooth. ;)
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 7, 2008 at 3:39 PM
I don’t believe any of them anymore. They (the opposition) is fudging the numbers to make Repubs wanna hide the razor blades.
The only one that counts is on November 5.
That’s my story and I am sticking with it.
tru2tx on October 7, 2008 at 3:42 PM
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