Lieberman: This ain’t your daddy’s Democratic Party
posted at 7:20 pm on October 7, 2008 by Allahpundit
Red meat, off the bone, via Newsmax. Skip ahead to 10:20 for the money bit, or to 5:48 to see him defend the Ayers attacks. There’s a hint near the end, as there always is, that Liebs might be caucusing with the GOP next year, but I wonder if the Democrats’ success won’t be so overwhelming in November that they end up still a prisoner to him. Right now he’s the difference between a tie and a majority. Come January, he could be the difference between an overwhelming majority and a filibuster-proof majority. Does Reid really want to alienate Joementum by booting him from his committee chairmanships before The One makes his first Supreme Court appointment? Click the image to watch.
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S’why I left.
hawkdriver on October 7, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Joementum was on Hannity the other night talkin’ all about small government and low taxes. I was scared and confused.
lorien1973 on October 7, 2008 at 7:22 PM
Dad and gramps didn’t leave the dinks…the mule ran off.
sven10077 on October 7, 2008 at 7:22 PM
I love me some Joementum!!!!!!!!
Lance Murdock on October 7, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Plenty of room in the foxhole for Liebs.
Limerick on October 7, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Joementum should be on TV. NewsMax is preaching to the choir.
jgapinoy on October 7, 2008 at 7:29 PM
A theme for McCain
A side show, but a show: ads aimed at lieberman democrats asking them to reclaim their party from the left wing extremists that now run it – by voting Republican in this go-round and throwing the hard liners out.
McCain could express his concern for democracy and the need for two principled parties.
Joe as spokesman?
Paul Murphy on October 7, 2008 at 7:34 PM
He was on some local channel in Florida. Someone posted up a link earlier about it.
lorien1973 on October 7, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Most democrats around here have no idea how screwed up the democrat party is. A person could reasonably want to vote for Sen. Ben Nelson because he’s more decent than Hagel, the (supposedly) republican Senator.
But to vote for Nelson would be a vote for Reid, and that’s something that should be repulsive to anybody but the most rabid democrat.
justincase on October 7, 2008 at 7:36 PM
How about broadcasting a duet with Jackie Mason to those Florida grandparents?
Seriously, Joe’s a good egg. I know he’s a pretty traditional liberal on domestic issues, but I think if he starts hanging out with a better crowd he can come around. His heart is in the right place. God bless him.
Y-not on October 7, 2008 at 7:39 PM
Lieberman will be in and out of Florida the next few weeks. He and Palin will deliver it for McCain. Elsewhere, Lieberman could pick up votes for McCain but it won’t make a difference. Jewish voters are concerned with Obama’s ties to the Palestinians and Lieberman can get that message across in Florida.
grdred944 on October 7, 2008 at 7:41 PM
Liebs has to know, that he’s likely to get stabbed in the back by the left at a moment’s notice. Whether the Dems get the majority or not. Joe’s treading on risky ground here.
Come to the dark side Joe, we have cupcakes, and hockey moms.
baxtrice on October 7, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Yeah, I left about 15 years ago. Welcome to the greener grass, Joe.
SouthernGent on October 7, 2008 at 7:44 PM
I wish my in-laws would listen to Lieberman. They are Democrats raised by parents who worshipped FDR. They grew up with JFK and think he was a saint. But the Democratic party they remember is not the Democratic party of today. This party is in direct opposition to their values yet they will never be able to pull a lever for anyone who does not have a D behind their name. My i-laws don’t believe in abortion. Believe in personal responsibility and have never and would never ask for a government handout, but they are entrenched in the haze of the JFK good ole days and nothing can bring them out of it. I even explained to my mother in law the fundamental differences between JFK and Obama, who you would think was the reincarnation of JFK if you listened to her, and she just said Obama makes me feel good like Kennedy did. I lived thru the Kennedy administration and you didn’t so you can’t understand what I feel. So, so sad.
church on October 7, 2008 at 7:46 PM
He is right, it is not the same Democratic party. That whole bear any burden, pay any price to support the cause of liberty Democrat is a dim memory. Except for some of the old soldiers who have been voting Dem since Truman.
Terrye on October 7, 2008 at 7:48 PM
church:
I was 11 and in the fifth grade when Kennedy was shot. Not so long after King and Bobby Kennedy were shot. We had Viet Nam and race riots. The Cuban missile crisis, the cold war.
The thing is a lot of people look back at those times with fondness because of their youth or because people still believed that no matter how bad things were, they would get better.
Terrye on October 7, 2008 at 7:52 PM
This is the truth. My father was a lifelong Democrat until the last decade of his life. I had to argue with him for years to finally get him to see. Even then he could not vote Republican and he opted for Perot instead. But at least I took a vote away from the Dems.
I was a democrat myself for my first two elections. Ronald Reagan turned me into a conservative with a nice assist from Jimmy Carter.
Hawthorne on October 7, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Joe is also speaking to the PUMAS, of course. They are the ones who got abused by the Obama Youth first.
funky chicken on October 7, 2008 at 7:54 PM
So then….is everyone stockpiling their booze for the big show? I’m putting my kids to bed early, cracking the scotch and settling in for the fireworks.
Bishop on October 7, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Terry,
I was not born until after the 60′s were over so I have no direct point of reference on the period. So you are probably right. I know I view the 60′s from a historical perspective as a turmultuous time that I am glad I missed. I think it put many things into motion that have helped to errode the moral fiber of the nation. But to voice any of that to my inlaws is considered blaspemy. They view the time in what I believe are unrealisitic terms for anytime.
church on October 7, 2008 at 7:57 PM
The Liberal Democratic Party,went over the cliff,
once they tossed Lieberman under da bus!
And someday,Joe is going to exercise political
vengence,and it’ll be sooooooooooooooo sweet!!!
The Liberal Party as it stands now,is morphing
into circa 1930 Chicago thuggery Politics!!
A hem,its time for Elliot Ness,to reopen his
office,if this goes south,gawd forbid I even
think it,Ness will be busy 24/7,chasing after
Rezco and Ayers!!!!
canopfor on October 7, 2008 at 7:59 PM
I come from a long line of Democrats and rebels. Many of our family’s young men have gone off to war and some never returned. Every male in my family has served in the US military since 1950. If I ever vote for another Democrat in my life after witnessing their actions these past 7 years I should be be hanged for treason. That’s just me.
OkieDoc on October 7, 2008 at 8:00 PM
Well, I wish a few more moderate Democrats would join up with Joe. There must be many who are worried about how liberal Obama is. And who see how Democratic policies can bring the whole world to it’s knees.
petunia on October 7, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Petunia,
You would think so, but the polls don’t show that and that scares me. I just keep hoping the polls are weighted in Democracts favor.
church on October 7, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Once again I have to be gone for the Presidential debate. So frustrating. So I get to hear how bad McCain did and how wonderful Obama is before I hear it for myself. Grrrr. Doesn’t matter whatever happens happens.
petunia on October 7, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Can’t watch the debate; will be at kid’s soccer practice.
I hope McCain does well.
funky chicken on October 7, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Somebody needs to drive a stake through the heart of the 60s radical movement. Oh Sarah…Sarah Baracuda.
Have you read Ayn Rand’s Return of the Primitive, The Anti Industrialist? It tells you all you need to know about the 60s radicals, and their agenda. Take a look at the unabomber, he was a product of that era, he even wrote a manifesto.
Dr Evil on October 7, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Joe’s a loser.
He was with the Dems when they were in the minority, and he’s about to be with the Rs now that they’re turning into a rump.
Oh, and he’s a d@mned liberal too, with one exception. But the Rs are so whipped they’re happy to have him.
misterpeasea on October 7, 2008 at 8:09 PM
church on October 7, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Here is a copy.
http://cyber.eserver.org/unabom.txt
Dr Evil on October 7, 2008 at 8:09 PM
My 19 year old is going to vote for the first time this year and this is the first debate he is going to be able to watch. He said to me he is going to enjoy watching McCain beat Obama in the debate. I didn’t have the heart to tell him Obama will be declared the winner no matter what happens.
church on October 7, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Dr.Evil,
Thank you. I will read the manifesto and pick up the Ayn Rand book tomorrow on my way home from work.
church on October 7, 2008 at 8:12 PM
http://www.math.toronto.edu/007/unabom.html
Check out the above unabomber and michigan radical ties in the 60s.
The unabomber complained because his cabin from Montana was being sent to the Smithsonian. The 60s radicals are aging but Only God Knows why these people are Bent the Way they are. Their mothers didn’t get enough folic acid in their diets, when they were carrying them?
Dr Evil on October 7, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Paulbots seem to be out in force today. Must be frustrating to not have a horse in the race.
Y-not on October 7, 2008 at 8:18 PM
I wish Joe would do some ads for McCain here in Philly, they could help him a lot. He was here with McCain and Palin two weeks ago and got a thunderous ovation.
rockmom on October 7, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Joe’s a liberal, sure, but he’s not an anti-American liberal looking to destroy his country down like Obama and his brownshirts.
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on October 7, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Like I said before I wasn’t around for the 60′s but I’ll tell you my impressions from what I have read and seen of those who speak about the times. I believe this is a generation of people, the leftists, who are self-absorbed and don’t care for this country the way previous generations have. I don’t think they believe in sacrifice hard work, or personal responsibility. I also don’t feel they have a connection with God or the true history of our nation. I think they hold America in contempt and would like nothing more than to chew away the foundation of the very society that created them and the comforts they enjoy. It is apparent to me that they hold as truth that America is a society of greed, expliotation and fraud, that only their utopian, or socialist view of society can fix. And finally they scare the hell at me.
church on October 7, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Obama needs to be asked one question by McCain tonight:
“Senator, what did you think of the OJ verdict?”
It would open up a view of Barry’s character that would be instructive.
profitsbeard on October 7, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Forgive my snipping some of your post, but you’re right. The generations from the boomers on have really known nothing but relative prosperity and security–we’ve never had to face really hard times and never really had our backs to the wall as the “Greatest Generation” did or those who settled the West or fought the Civil War etc. As a result, there’s a tendency amongst many of us to take our freedom and prosperity and peace for granted. That’s a very dangerous conceit–and one that has the potential of bearing very bitter fruit indeed.
Matt Helm on October 7, 2008 at 8:32 PM
My daddy wasn’t a democrat.
Tommy_G on October 7, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Matt Helm
I totally agree with you Matt. I think a little struggle and adversity in life breeds a more appreciative citizen. Although I am glad I have not had to endure the hardships of past generations, there is something to be said for what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. Unfortunately, too many in the last two generations are going to have to actually encounter adversity, probably via an Obama administration, before they understand the great privledge it is to be born an American.
church on October 7, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Don’t be fooled by the supposed 60′s radicals. Most of us are now today’s conservatives. I went to college 66-70 perhaps the best time to take it all in. Right in the middle of it. Ann Arbor MI. and Detroit. The motor city at its zenith. The Grande Ballroom, Motown…
Attended some of the first SDS meetings. Two casual acquaintances from UofD ended up on posters at the Post Office. Trust me when I tell you this, most of us sobered up by the early seventies. Not the Weathermen, Ayers and crew were losers of the first order. In fact back then it was the women that were the most vocal and violent. Dohrn was the real leader.
Virtually everything that is equated to the 60′s today was really an outgrowth of the 50′s bohemian movement originating in SF and NYC. All the good and bad that has come came out of those times, and it was coming no matter what. The radicals just thought they actually had something to do with it. They did not. The Weather Underground were first and foremost delusional punk criminals.
As someone who lived through those times I would not trade the 60′s for anything. Because of my age, college etc it was the most profound life changing period. Most everything since seems tame by comparison.
And I have not even mentioned the music!
patrick neid on October 7, 2008 at 9:11 PM
Too bad no one is over here, it’s nice and the refresh is great.
Bishop on October 7, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Nice loungers, though, and I got a beer from that good looking chick over there.
Bishop on October 7, 2008 at 10:09 PM
You are not alone.
innominatus on October 7, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Thank God, I saved you a nice table by the window.
Bishop on October 7, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Sooooo, whadya think of Mac’s performance tonight?
Bishop on October 7, 2008 at 10:15 PM
I hate it. My mother-in-law (who is not very political) thinks Mac is rockin’.
My wife wants to go to bed early. I want see if that old abandoned cabin out in the woods is still standing for me to hide in for the next 4 years.
innominatus on October 7, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Yep. I’ve been hanging-on and staying positive, but Mac needed to clean Obarfy’s clock tonight to shift the numbers. I won’t say it’s completely lost but not looking good.
I have a wish-list of guns I’ve always wanted and now I need to pick and choose which ones I can afford; they are going to go away if Obambo wins.
Bishop on October 7, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Unless you join the Obama Youth. They hand out tec-9s and pipebombs like halloween candy.
innominatus on October 7, 2008 at 10:24 PM
I was but a child in the 60′s but I well remember the Carter years. That is a much more recent and accurate example of what happens when libs are given free reign.
conservativecaveman on October 7, 2008 at 10:25 PM
I don’t recognize the guy that gave the hot speech in New Mexico yesterday. I think he was an imposter, ‘cuz the guy on my screen tonight barely resembles the one who ripped The One to pieces yesterday.
innominatus on October 7, 2008 at 10:26 PM
He sounded so bad on the radio I had to turn it off. I just hope he looked better on TV. Otherwise….Michelle Obama first lady….
patrick neid on October 7, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Nope, I don’t think Mac did that great, a draw if anything.
I don’t know, Palin has all the fire and Mac seems worn out, even though Obimbo sounded like a complete idiot.
If Obie wins, this nation is in for a collective rolling. Damn.
Bishop on October 7, 2008 at 10:45 PM
JFK probably would be pretty much like McCain. Good on keeping America safe and keeping taxes low. In act, JFK may have been even a little more conservative than McCain. And yes, I can remember where I was when I got the news that JFK had been shot, 7th grade class.
mydh12 on October 7, 2008 at 11:16 PM
As George McGovern once conceded (as cited in a 2005 Jonah Goldberg article in NR about Ned Lamont) he had opened the doors to the Democrat Party and, “20 million people walked out.”
Trochilus on October 8, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Per Politico, this isn’t your mother’s Democrat party, either:
Terrie on October 8, 2008 at 1:25 AM
Who here has seen PATTON (the film)? There’s this scene where Patton explains to his aide how he knows that the enemy is losing — “oxcarts,” he says, “they’re pulling/using oxcarts.”
So it goes with reading the screed from the Left. I notice an uptake in certain accusations (baseless, often hideous, routinely irrational) from the Left about Republicans, and in the last two days, it’s been “you’re an anti-Semite” or “are you a Holocaust denier” and various rubrics of that same caustic stuff.
Those accusations are serious ones (d’oh) and appropriate ones when encountering anyone who is (d’oh) engaged IN “Holocaust denying” and negtive stereotyping for purposes of railing on about “the Joooos.”
BUT, when I read and hear these accusations (on the internet, today on television broadcasts from a few Obama supporters) IN THE CONTEXT OF general pejoratives about the Right, I think of that scene from PATTON: you can tell they’re losing in a particular area (in this case, sensing the growing, realistic, well-placed doubts as to Obama where Isreal is concerned, also as to our U.S. national security, as related) when they start flinging those particular accusations about, it indicates desperation.
I enjoyed Lieberman on FOX the other day and also think he’d be great on that network more often (hope he returns more often). And I surely hope he makes a difference for McCain in Florida (and I think that he can and will).
I also note that the Obama Leftists ridicule Lieberman. So, there’s those oxcarts.
S on October 8, 2008 at 4:13 AM
I read that a while ago, too. I worked my way reading about a hundred or so down through the comments, then had to stop and take care of other things…but what I was thinking, I know couldn’t be published on any decent website, so I didn’t comment there (“Politico”, that story).
I’ll just leave it at that I think Romney showed incredible decency in that moment. As to McCaskill and her remark to Romney, I now have to again censor what I’m thinking…
S on October 8, 2008 at 4:17 AM
Sway the indy’s Joe.
johnnyU on October 8, 2008 at 12:23 PM