Survey USA: Obama leads by double digits in New Hampshire and … Virginia
posted at 3:07 pm on October 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Even more gruesome than that Rasmussen national poll this morning putting The One at a cool 52 percent. The samples lean a bit towards the Dems in both states — eight-point and nine-point gaps, respectively — but given the size of the leads, it doesn’t much matter. From the Virginia poll:
There is movement among men, where immediately after the GOP convention, McCain led by 10, and where today Obama leads by 11.
There is movement among whites, where McCain’s once 22-point lead is today reduced to single digits.
There is movement among the well-to-do, where today for the first time Obama leads.
There is movement among pro-choice voters, where Obama’s lead has doubled since August.
New Hampshire went blue in ‘04 so McCain doesn’t absolutely have to have it, but it was one of the states he thought he had a shot at flipping. Same with Michigan, which he’s now abandoned. Virginia, though, went red four years ago, as it has in every election since 1964. Remember our back of the envelope math on electoral votes last week? If The One can hold on to Kerry’s states and his current leads in Nevada and Iowa, Virginia would put him over the top. And Survey USA’s not the only new poll showing him with a double-digit lead there. In fact, Karl Rove’s electoral map based on public polls as of Friday already puts Obama over the top with 273 EVs, and that’s with Virginia and Nevada bpth in the toss-up column. Not all the blues are lost causes — Colorado, Wisconsin, and Minnesota are all within six — but look how many yellows are teetering.
What’s the way out? An Ayers/Wright offensive simply isn’t going to hack it; even I can’t be bothered with it today between covering my face and peeking through my fingers at the sinking Dow. A sustained attack on the left over Fannie/Freddie will help, but I don’t know how you push that message through to low-information voters with the time left. It seems unlikely in the extreme that people who don’t follow this from day to day are to going react to a meltdown on Wall Street by electing the guy from the party commonly derided as a pawn of big business. On the contrary, the worse things get, the better The One’s vacuous rhetoric sounds. After all, what surer tonic could there be for a looming depression than Hopenchange? Pricetag: $5 trillion. Horrifying exit quotation from an unnamed McCain advisor suggesting they’re ready to give up: “If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we’re going to lose.” Note to Team Maverick — you have no choice.
Update: Almost forgot. If you think things can’t get worse, bear in mind that the preliminary report in the Troopergate probe is due out Friday.
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Polls will change. They always do.
JUST VOTE!
carbon_footprint on October 6, 2008 at 3:09 PM
I question the timing of this economic downfall
jp on October 6, 2008 at 3:10 PM
the economy isnt going to let Mav win…maybe if he had an economic guru as a veep but oh well
Roger Waters on October 6, 2008 at 3:11 PM
Me too, jp.
blatantblue on October 6, 2008 at 3:12 PM
It’s over – unless mainland terrorism strikes in the next three weeks.
Aristotle on October 6, 2008 at 3:12 PM
I guess the “way out” is just to grab a rope and hang ourselves now, eh, Allahpundit?
I guess it’s okay with you if we all simply bow to Osama Obama’s evident superiority and let him take over.
Not okay with me.
MrScribbler on October 6, 2008 at 3:13 PM
You think French is going to have a had in trying to make the report from Troopergate slam Palin and her supposed role in firing the guy for not firing her BiL? I’m not going to hold my breath here.
Kaitian on October 6, 2008 at 3:13 PM
I don’t doubt that Obama is ahead, but I am not so sure that I believe this poll, at least on Virginia.
We will find out soon enough.
Speaking of that sinking Dow, I think Congress is getting the most blowback on this and the last time I looked the Democrats were running the place.
Terrye on October 6, 2008 at 3:13 PM
The poll is bull. Stop pissing in your pants like a two-year old.
Jesus, what a loon..
TexasJew on October 6, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Like who? Romney? He just unfortunately does not appeal to that many people as I like him to. “Too slick” is the dumbest thing I’ve heard about the guy.
Kaitian on October 6, 2008 at 3:14 PM
Oh yeah Roger, if McCain had a rich white billionare who made his money buying companies and firing people as a VP, the American people would flock to that ticket. Especially with the news that Mass. is going broke.
Terrye on October 6, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Hey, the Bradley Effect could happen on Election Day for those undecided but supposedly “leaning” Obama.
Kaitian on October 6, 2008 at 3:15 PM
The only positive I see out of this is that maybe the economic hole will be so deep that Obama can’t put in place his Marxist policies, and the economy wuill continue to be sluggish over the four years with both him and a Dem Congress, then THEY will be blamed for it. Wishful thinking?
changer1701 on October 6, 2008 at 3:15 PM
All hail Emperor Obama!!!
I think I’m going to be violently ill…
Lance Murdock on October 6, 2008 at 3:15 PM
This isn’t the economy that I knew.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 6, 2008 at 3:15 PM
Doom and gloom works on our side to get conservatives to get off their rears and vote. Let the rabble think they can stay home, watch the View on free cable and open their welfare checks since it’s won already.
Vote early, vote often.
Hening on October 6, 2008 at 3:16 PM
The 2004 election taught me one thing, don’t put much faith in polls or their numbers.
JeffinSac on October 6, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Here’s Allah, pissing in everyone’s Cheerios again.
McCain finally takes the gloves off re: Fannie/Freddie and all but comes out and calls Obama a sniveling little shit and you’re on again about poles.
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Muledriver on October 6, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Quit being such a surrender monkey. It’s not over for another 30 days or so.
If it’s this bad on the day before the election, ok … but 30 days out? Grow a pair.
thirteen28 on October 6, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Then the Obama campaign will mention those two words “Rick” and “Davis” again and this attack will be dead in the water.
cornfedbubba on October 6, 2008 at 3:16 PM
Tru dat.
Mac needs to hammer the lefties over this one and tout the line that “now is not the time for tax increases of any kind”.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 6, 2008 at 3:17 PM
And POLLS, even
Muledriver on October 6, 2008 at 3:17 PM
It was only a few days ago that SUSA had Mac up by one in my home state. Wouldn’t it be funny if Minnesota comes through and Virginia doesn’t.
IR-MN on October 6, 2008 at 3:17 PM
“The poll is bull. Stop pissing in your pants like a two-year old.
Jesus, what a loon..
TexasJew on October 6, 2008 at 3:13 PM”
Grow the hell up. You think denying reality makes things all better? Or are you a conspiracy theorist.
Yeah, I agree with you Kaitian. Palin may be dumb but she is attractive and great at getting the m(asses) all fired up!!
Roger Waters on October 6, 2008 at 3:17 PM
WHERE ARE THEY GETTING THESE NUMBERS? Seriously, can someone please tell me who answers their phone to be polled…how are they gathering this info?
Mommypundit on October 6, 2008 at 3:18 PM
: )
capitalist piglet on October 6, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Now if this isn’t patriotism, I don’t know what is! /sarc
cornfedbubba on October 6, 2008 at 3:19 PM
“Oh yeah Roger, if McCain had a rich white billionare who made his money buying companies and firing people as a VP, the American people would flock to that ticket. Especially with the news that Mass. is going broke.
Terrye on October 6, 2008 at 3:15 PM”
Oh sure, you are correct Terrye. Better to have a veep that needs somebody to tell her what newspapers she reads. Fool.
Roger Waters on October 6, 2008 at 3:19 PM
Gee, this is just like on “House” when the student doctors misdiagnose the thing and the treatment only makes things worse….
Then the curmudgeonly old fart comes in with the plan that saves the patient.
cthulhu on October 6, 2008 at 3:20 PM
This is the most demoralizing site I go to. I come here and I feel like i’m being drawn in a black hole of dispair.
It’s only because Malkin’s Vents that I came to start with.. dont know why i keep do
VinceP1974 on October 6, 2008 at 3:20 PM
If SNL can do it, McCain can do it. Or do we think we’re so superior that only we can understand the Dems screwed with the rules to force banks to give loans to people who couldn’t afford them.
CanadianGuy on October 6, 2008 at 3:20 PM
They way this economy is going into the crapper, it just maybe that McCain doesn’t want to win. Would you want to inherit a $2 trillion mess along with a recession?
rbj on October 6, 2008 at 3:21 PM
McCain will have a strong debate tomorrow night.
RushBaby on October 6, 2008 at 3:21 PM
Worst ran campaign ever…
ninjapirate on October 6, 2008 at 3:22 PM
“This is the most demoralizing site I go to. I come here and I feel like i’m being drawn in a black hole of dispair.
It’s only because Malkin’s Vents that I came to start with.. dont know why i keep do
VinceP1974 on October 6, 2008 at 3:20 PM
”
The truth can be painful Vince. Doesnt make it not the truth. To get to la la land instead of reality world, try pot or vicadin or something.
Roger Waters on October 6, 2008 at 3:23 PM
I HOPE that I have more than CHANGE in my pocket the next four years. If you actually believe these polls then you’re crazy. There is no way that O-Town is going to win. DEWEY beats TRUMAN!!! When the dust settles and the lights are off we will have that crotchety old man as our President. Thank God for that. Four more years of the lesser Evil. What the hell were we thinking in the primaries, !!!!! Meltdown Meltdown!!!!
SAMIAMJAX on October 6, 2008 at 3:23 PM
It’s BS.
No way ubama is leading in Virginia.
Almost everyone has a Mccain/Palin bumper sticker on their car out here.
And I’m talking about Arlington VA…D.C./ northern virginia not southern virginia.
Another BS poll.
I wonder what the REAL polls look like.
SaintOlaf on October 6, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Roger:
I would have supported Romney if he got the nomination, I would have supported him if he got the VP as far as that is concerned, but he never had an 80% approval rating in Mass when he was Governor. Treating Palin like she is stupid just because your guy did not get the nod is childish.
In fact, I really do not think that having a guy like Romney on the ticket would help now because people look at Romney and they think that is the kind of guy who got us here. I don’t think that is really fair, but I think it is how people would see it.
Terrye on October 6, 2008 at 3:24 PM
BTW, STFU “McCain Advisors”… what a bunch of f’n moron douchbagerry…
ninjapirate on October 6, 2008 at 3:24 PM
Some of you cats are in denial.
Things look BAD, as in we are most likely going to lose big, but so what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjnvSQuv-H4&feature=related
I’m not letting this FUBAR election bring me down anymore.
toliver on October 6, 2008 at 3:25 PM
SUSA’s numbers on VA have been out of whack for weeks, because they are polling on weekends and only weekends.
That said, the trend obviously reeks.
Karl on October 6, 2008 at 3:26 PM
He and Malkin want McCain to lose.
funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 3:27 PM
I’m not freaking out…I’m just wondering if I am either spending too much time here at Hotair and thinking everyone believes the same as I do and am seriously out of touch or there is something amiss here. I mean, if this is true, then I am growing more and more concerned about the antichrist theory. I mean, who with any ounce of sanity, believes this guy is experienced at all or NOT a radical weirdo? Help me understand how they gather their data. Do people really, really believe he is capable?
Mommypundit on October 6, 2008 at 3:27 PM
toliver:
I don’t know, maybe it depends on where you are, but I don’t see it as over yet.
That does not mean I am in denial.
Terrye on October 6, 2008 at 3:28 PM
The economic news doomed Republican chances this time. No one cares that Democrats have been in power for almost two years in Congress. They are blaming it all on the President.
Speedwagon82 on October 6, 2008 at 3:28 PM
FOLKS. Keep the faith. America WILL see the “God Damn America” ads.
marklmail on October 6, 2008 at 3:28 PM
Sorry buddy, but there’s not a lot of reasons to be happy and cheerful these days. But maybe this will cheer you up, courtesy of Thomas Paine:
THESE are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.
m064404 on October 6, 2008 at 3:28 PM
If ratings for next debate are the same or lower…it’s over.
If there are higher ratings than the last Obama/McCain debate then people are still thinking it over.
I really wish I could say/hope(!) McCain has a secret “maverick” plan that is going to surprise us all, but…I am amazed how McCain suspended his campaign and never seems to have started it again. He has let Obama walk all over him the last 2 “financial crisis” weeks.
albill on October 6, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Look, we know we were battling headwinds all year long. But by the same token, with those headwinds, the race should have been over about two seconds after The One delivered his sermon before the Acropolis. That alone is some cause for encouragement.
And the other thing is, you just don’t give up without a fight. You steel your spine and fight on until the votes are counted.
thirteen28 on October 6, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Let me say again that media polls are mathematical garbage and are designed to influence and not to inform. For this election they are just another weapon in the arsenal of the left wing media and are used to reflect the media’s political views and to convince the population that all hope is lost. As a previous poster said, forget polls and just VOTE. The media’s psychological warfare is insidious like an aggressive cancer and should be ignored
rplat on October 6, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Someone answer me. How does Ras/Zog/etc. gather this info? WHO are they calling/polling?
Mommypundit on October 6, 2008 at 3:30 PM
REMEMBER 2004!!!
Pollsters are sampling based on “much higher Democrat turnout”…aka, The ACORN effects!
IGNORE THE POLLS…..GO VOTE!!!!
You’ll see, we’ll win!!
OSUBuciz1 on October 6, 2008 at 3:30 PM
McCain is a crap candidate.
Bob Dole was a crap candidate.
We (the GOP) do it to ourselves.
We nominate CRAP candidates and we ask HOW? WHY?
Old White Men are not what his country needs.
We did this to ourselves.
jake-the-goose on October 6, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Yeah,, but just wait till the gloves come off! Just wait, you’ll see!
JellyToast on October 6, 2008 at 3:30 PM
funky chicken:
I really think Malkin does want McCain to lose. It is all about influence and who gets to call the shots on the right. Someone like McCain is just not her idea of what a Republican should be. I am not so sure about Allah. I think he is just trying to prepare us for the worst. After all, we are but children and thus unable to face ugly realities on our own.
BTW, I hear things are close in Minn. Now there is a state no Republican has taken in awhile.
Terrye on October 6, 2008 at 3:31 PM
and media will claim Obama won for the next 48 hours afterwords. “Flash polls” will lead the talking points saying a majority thought Obama won the debate..
we must defeat the media, have no idea how but must be done
jp on October 6, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Right on, thirteen28.
rplat on October 6, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Anyone for Toast?
Politics | Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:55:31 am PST
In Slate Magazine, William Saletan says the polls are so stacked against John McCain, there’s no possibility he can win. The race is over.
Oh, wait. That was eight years ago, and he was talking about George W. Bush.
Why Bush Is Toast.
Since Labor Day, the media have released about 20 polls on the presidential race. Three show a dead heat, one shows George W. Bush leading by a single percentage point, and the rest show Al Gore leading by one to 10 points. In the latest polls, Gore leads by an average of five points. It’s fashionable at this stage to caution that “anything can happen,” that Bush is “retooling,” and that the numbers can turn in Bush’s favor just as easily as they turned against him. But they can’t. The numbers are moving toward Gore because fundamental dynamics tilt the election in his favor. The only question has been how far those dynamics would carry him. Now that he has passed Bush, the race is over.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31487_Anyone_for_Toast
political polls are entertainment products only. period. not science…they are tiny opinion questionnaires that the companies peddle as being predictive of voting behavior.
the fact that the pollsters go out and try to snow people with descriptions of how they do all this statistical analysis, blah blah. If nothing else, all that talk should prove to you that they manipulate their data every single time they run these things.
funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Doesn’t matter a lick.
McCain owes it to the citizens of the country to expose Obama’s past.
If Obama wins, he will become a victim of his own obfuscations during the campaign as the fact come out.
mylegsareswollen on October 6, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Really he is leading in Virginia? Then why is Mudcat Saunders look so worried in this video discussing Obama’s rural problem?
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/obamas-rural-challenge.html
Dr Evil on October 6, 2008 at 3:32 PM
and how the heck can things be close in Pa, but Obama up double digits in Virginia?
something is not right.
If Obama were truly up this much in Va. and in a tie or slight lead in NC.
Then he should be up 20 points in Minn, Ohio, Penn….you name it.
jp on October 6, 2008 at 3:32 PM
“Terrye on October 6, 2008 at 3:24 PM”
Well, I disagree with you but it doesnt matter, its all academic at this point and it is what it is. I hope that they pull it off but having an veep at this point in time that knows nothing about the economy and about financial concepts is very very bad timing. Would you trust Sarah Palin to manage your money or Romney? then, who would you trust with your economy?
If the answer to the financial meltdown is going to be “greed on wall street” like Sarah Palin said in the debate than the country will prefer a democrat than a republican who gives the same dumb answers as a democrat.
The republican party and the country will get what it deserves.
Roger Waters on October 6, 2008 at 3:32 PM
jake-the-goose:
Palin is not an old white man. But Biden is.
Terrye on October 6, 2008 at 3:33 PM
The Columbia University commies have pulled off a 9-11 world finance sabotage.
We have to show people this was all planned long ago so they understand how we got here. If 9-11 had been an “accident” or blamed on somebody besides the real terrorists, we’d have never fought back. America fights back when we know we’ve been attacked and by whom.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x32cxf_yuri-bezmenov
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html
justincase on October 6, 2008 at 3:33 PM
I enjoy House. It’s a great TV show. It’s also fiction, not reality, and the reality is, Obama is going to win in a landslide because McCain is an idiot. We’ve been screwed since the primaries.
Tom Blogical on October 6, 2008 at 3:33 PM
A passport.
paul006 on October 6, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Not at all.
These polls are BS.
It’s the only way they can keep their affirmative action candidate alive.
Baracka BARELY won the dem nomination and illegally to boot.
Bill Clinton is out there stumping for Mccain/Palin and 25% of HClinton voters are already voting for Mac….yet the “polls” assume every registered dem is voting and voting Ubama.
Independents favor Mac and at least 25% of Clinton voters favor Mac.
This election is going to be a landslide Mccain win.
SaintOlaf on October 6, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Grow some nuts already.
No way that Va is going 12% Obama over McCain, and I’ll take bets.
I’m in the oil biz, making tons of dough, even if oil falls below $50 and I’ll drink your milkshake, you neurotic whining pussies.
Capitalism rocks!
TexasJew on October 6, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Looking back, I think so much has been manipulated,,, we had this gas crisis. It ended up revitalizing the Republicans and McCain even picked up on it. Then,, suddenly, that crisis disappeared and was replaced by a new one.
Almost as though the first crisis wasn’t going as planned and they needed a new one. Gas prices are way down, now. How convenient.
JellyToast on October 6, 2008 at 3:34 PM
A MUST READ!! POLLSTERS ARE ABYSMAL, and most are liberals too! Ever seen Rasmussen and Zogby? Heard them speak? Objective my ass!
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/nobama/2008/sep/20/poll-junkies-please-check-out-this-diary-rev/
OSUBuciz1 on October 6, 2008 at 3:34 PM
Everyone keeps saying “Remember 2004 polls” but, as I remember it, even Bush was winning some of those electoral vote calculations the whole year. McCain has only led a few times during the Palin announcement.
Speedwagon82 on October 6, 2008 at 3:34 PM
“Old White Men are not what his country needs.
We did this to ourselves.
jake-the-goose on October 6, 2008 at 3:30 PM”
What a bunch of crap spoken like a true democrat. What the country needs are intelligent competent successful people with successful track records. Not guys whose “turn” it is like Dole and McCain. Skin color and gender have NOTHING to do with it. idiotic.
Roger Waters on October 6, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Polls change quickly you insufferable cry baby. (Duh… they changed from Mav to The One pretty quickly, huh? What, it only flows one way?) Funny how the one person the media can absolutely demoralize in this election is one of the only two guys able to post on HotAir. Mission accomplished!
AP…dude… just go do something else.
Sugar Land on October 6, 2008 at 3:35 PM
MY NEW HERO….LMAO!!
OSUBuciz1 on October 6, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Yep. And Tammy Bruce talked for quite a bit today about why all the millionaire snob elitists on the coasts want to see McCain and Palin lose too. They just aren’t the “right kind” of people to be in power–Palin especially, of course.
Tammy said it was just a fundamental assault on their assumptions about what was required for a person to become important and worthy of respect. If somebody with only a bachelor’s degree from University of Idaho becomes VP, and eventually POTUS, what does that say about their entire world view?
That’s why this fantasy of Palin winning in 2012 if McCain loses this time is just that–a fantasy. These elitists aren’t going to like her any more the next time around.
funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Oh, wow. I thought I stepped in dog crap; it was just you.
AubieJon on October 6, 2008 at 3:35 PM
Roger:
I would trust Sarah Palin. This mess in Fannie and Freddie and on Wall Street was not caused by lady Governors from Alaska who went to a state university. It was caused by hot shots with big degrees from places like Harvard and Yale and Princeton who thought they could ignore the rules of the market. A lot of those guys are a lot more like Romney than they are Palin. She is from that class of people who understands that sooner or later someone has to pay.
Terrye on October 6, 2008 at 3:35 PM
AP’s concern about getting the message to “low information voters” doesn’t concern me. These folks don’t choose based on details, they choose based on groundswell. As info filters its way to them the minutia erodes and it morphs into a more digestable soundbite.
“Did you hear that Obama was one of the guys that caused the mortgage crisis? He took more money from those Wall Street fat cats than anybody else, except for that Dodd guy, too!”
It’s all good. We just can’t let up.
pugwriter on October 6, 2008 at 3:36 PM
I think it’s funny that so many peop here in Ca have more faith that McCAin Palin will win than some condervatives do…forget the polls…there has been enough information posted on this site alonetha they are being skewed…remember in 2000 Gore waw “blowing out” Bush at this point in 2004 Kerry was also “blowing out” Bush who was so despise by the Left that it is actually a miracle that he won…
Have faith that Americans won’t elect the socialist fraud that is OBAMA…
CCRWM on October 6, 2008 at 3:36 PM
Shock, Denial, Anger and Acceptance.
Many of you have a couple of steps to go for a less stressed outlook.
And I’m not being a smart-ass by pointing this out. The numbers are the numbers. A bad economy always goes against the party “in power”. It’s frustrating knowing that liberal/socialist BS is the root behind this mortgage mess, but as Rush likes to say, “it is what it is”.
I’ve mailed my absentee and I’m done.
We need to win back congress in two, and then nominate a better candidate in four.
toliver on October 6, 2008 at 3:36 PM
Soros, look into his financial dealings.
How can Obama be up 4 to 8 points Nationally, but 12 in Virginia? seriously, at worse McCain is probably tied in Va.
jp on October 6, 2008 at 3:37 PM
funky chicken:
Kind of makes you wonder what they would think of Lincoln?
Not their sort, not top drawer.
Terrye on October 6, 2008 at 3:37 PM
That is the first thing I thought.
Mark1971 on October 6, 2008 at 3:38 PM
The problem is the MSM will bury all the McCain/Palin truth attacks under the DOW crash news. John and Sally Sixpack will suck into this BS as the sheeple that they are while the MSM and The One (alpha…omega) lay all this at the feet of the GOP, thereby catapulting them in the front door of the White House.
Revolution is at hand…time to give Phil Ayers a taste of his own medicine.
/gently strokes high caliber weapon
Wyznowski on October 6, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Hey AP, better check your history books.
In 2000 and 2004 at this exact time of the election cycle, Bush was down by double digits in many polls, and behind in every single poll, every one. Gore had the nomination sewn up, Bush was basically out of the race…do you know what happened?
Also, at this exact time, Reagan was behind and considered out of the race by the NYT and several pollsters.
But if you keep believing it, it will happen.
right2bright on October 6, 2008 at 3:38 PM
Hate to dissappoint you Roger Waters – I am a 50 year old life long Republican – who has never voted outside the party.
I will vote for John McCain – who is as liberal a jerk the GOP has ever nominated – Immigration Reform, Election Reform – lover of Ted Kennedy.
And I will hate the fact that this what the GOP has done.
Sarah in 2012 – that’s my hope. And don’t think for one minute she agrees with McCain – she is holding her nose.
Wake Up ROGER – the man is not a true Republican. NO WAY
jake-the-goose on October 6, 2008 at 3:39 PM
My beloved Auburn Tigers got dumped by the Vandy Crummydores and 0bama is riding this economic crisis into the WH.
I’m depressed.
p0s3r on October 6, 2008 at 3:39 PM
“Roger:
I would trust Sarah Palin. This mess in Fannie and Freddie and on Wall Street was not caused by lady Governors from Alaska who went to a state university. It was caused by hot shots with big degrees from places like Harvard and Yale and Princeton who thought they could ignore the rules of the market. A lot of those guys are a lot more like Romney than they are Palin. She is from that class of people who understands that sooner or later someone has to pay.
Terrye on October 6, 2008 at 3:35 PM”
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!! GOOD ONE!!
Yeah, people who can see Russia from their homes and cant answer really really hard questions like “what newspapers do you read?”
But she did give us all a wink during the debate and I am sure that all the other state school types and drop-outs got all flushy. HA HA HA HA HA!!!
Roger Waters on October 6, 2008 at 3:39 PM
I love Sunday surveys, when the vast majority of would be McCain supporters wouldn’t be able to answer surveys due to their being in church and all.
If McCain loses VA by double digits, the One will win 400+ EV because the country will have gone insane. Barry might win here, but there’s no way McCain loses by 10+ points in this state unless every conservative stays home on election day.
Physics Geek on October 6, 2008 at 3:39 PM
Haven’t y’all figured out yet that AP finds the most ridiculous lopsided polls to throw in here, then sits back and laughs at everyone going into frenzied hysteria over them. It’s that beta male sense of humor…
db on October 6, 2008 at 3:40 PM
When Virginia votes for Obama then I might start believing it. Until then, consider me extremely skeptical.
Spirit of 1776 on October 6, 2008 at 3:40 PM
This election will be the equivilant of a revolution against our saudi owned liberal media.
EVERYONE can recognize that the media is totally out of control, non factual and biased.
Yet some of you still believe their “polls”?
What?
SaintOlaf on October 6, 2008 at 3:40 PM
If McCain doesn’t talk about the economic crisis pretty much 24×7 and pin it on Dodd, Franks democrats et all, and hence at least indirectly to Obama, he will lose Big Time.
MB4 on October 6, 2008 at 3:40 PM
“Sarah in 2012 – that’s my hope. And don’t think for one minute she agrees with McCain – she is holding her nose.
Wake Up ROGER – the man is not a true Republican. NO WAY
jake-the-goose on October 6, 2008 at 3:39 PM”
Goose, no offense dude but although I like Sarah Palin and I like how she is a social conservative and stuff, here is some reality to go along with the new polls:
She is dumb as hell.
Sorry to dissappoint.
Roger Waters on October 6, 2008 at 3:40 PM
toliver:
I think there is a good chance Obama will win. I have thought this for some time. The fact that I am not ready to lay down and die does not mean I am in denial.
Not so long ago McCain was actually ahead in most polls, then this economic meltdown hit. We do not know what the next few weeks hold, it could be something just as unexpected and just as devastating to the Obama campaign.
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer to believe that the actual voting is what matters. Maybe some folks think all that can be replaced by a few polls a month out from the election, but for old times sake..let’s act as if November 4 matters.
Terrye on October 6, 2008 at 3:41 PM
The pollsters and press are panicking! They want to try to get McCain camp to stop the pain on their candidate Obama!
1)Internal polls must have told Obama “Hey, the Ayers talk is working; launch Keating Bomb”
Note to Obama: Dont invite a Keating 5 member (John Glenn) to a campaign event if your gonna hit your opponent with it!! Dumbass!
2)McCain’s internals must be screaming….FIRE, FIRE AGAIN, Keep FIRING!!! LOL!
OSUBuciz1 on October 6, 2008 at 3:41 PM
This is all about the economy. McCain has to pin it to them and right away.
He can hurt them big but it’s going to take passion.
drjohn on October 6, 2008 at 3:41 PM
Why not you stop dispiriting the base, eh, Allah?
People in this country deserve Obama if they vote for him… geez
ColHogan on October 6, 2008 at 3:42 PM
I feel for you guys. F’n Vandy is 5-0, and the most liberal candidate ever is set to win the election. The world is upside-down.
toliver on October 6, 2008 at 3:42 PM
You sound like a very fat woman named Monica who lives in Escambia County, Fla and is currently under indictment for internet stalking. She spent all of her time trying to make people think she was somebody, just like you’re doing.
AubieJon on October 6, 2008 at 3:43 PM
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