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Survey USA: Obama leads by double digits in New Hampshire and … Virginia

posted at 3:07 pm on October 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Even more gruesome than that Rasmussen national poll this morning putting The One at a cool 52 percent. The samples lean a bit towards the Dems in both states — eight-point and nine-point gaps, respectively — but given the size of the leads, it doesn’t much matter. From the Virginia poll:

There is movement among men, where immediately after the GOP convention, McCain led by 10, and where today Obama leads by 11.
There is movement among whites, where McCain’s once 22-point lead is today reduced to single digits.
There is movement among the well-to-do, where today for the first time Obama leads.
There is movement among pro-choice voters, where Obama’s lead has doubled since August.

New Hampshire went blue in ‘04 so McCain doesn’t absolutely have to have it, but it was one of the states he thought he had a shot at flipping. Same with Michigan, which he’s now abandoned. Virginia, though, went red four years ago, as it has in every election since 1964. Remember our back of the envelope math on electoral votes last week? If The One can hold on to Kerry’s states and his current leads in Nevada and Iowa, Virginia would put him over the top. And Survey USA’s not the only new poll showing him with a double-digit lead there. In fact, Karl Rove’s electoral map based on public polls as of Friday already puts Obama over the top with 273 EVs, and that’s with Virginia and Nevada bpth in the toss-up column. Not all the blues are lost causes — Colorado, Wisconsin, and Minnesota are all within six — but look how many yellows are teetering.

What’s the way out? An Ayers/Wright offensive simply isn’t going to hack it; even I can’t be bothered with it today between covering my face and peeking through my fingers at the sinking Dow. A sustained attack on the left over Fannie/Freddie will help, but I don’t know how you push that message through to low-information voters with the time left. It seems unlikely in the extreme that people who don’t follow this from day to day are to going react to a meltdown on Wall Street by electing the guy from the party commonly derided as a pawn of big business. On the contrary, the worse things get, the better The One’s vacuous rhetoric sounds. After all, what surer tonic could there be for a looming depression than Hopenchange? Pricetag: $5 trillion. Horrifying exit quotation from an unnamed McCain advisor suggesting they’re ready to give up: “If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we’re going to lose.” Note to Team Maverick — you have no choice.

Update: Almost forgot. If you think things can’t get worse, bear in mind that the preliminary report in the Troopergate probe is due out Friday.


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time to fire up the Reagan Docs.

http://inthefaceofevil.com

all Paultards and Paleo’s should be forced to watch that one, along with Obsession

jp on October 6, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Horrifying exit quotation from an unnamed McCain advisor suggesting they’re ready to give up: “If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we’re going to lose.”

And I always trust those anonymous sources, too.

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Disturb the Universe on October 6, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Folks, this isn’t 2004; it’s 1964.

paul006 on October 6, 2008 at 4:08 PM

God help us.

…and of course the fact he’s a marxist with near absolute control over the media is creepy and erie.

What’s creepy and eerie is that he doesn’t have ‘control’ of them, but that they’re fanatically loyal without his expressed control. Every other dictator has to take the press by force

Browncoatone on October 6, 2008 at 4:44 PM

You’re probably correct but that was McCain’s brother and he was only referring to Alexandria and Annendale which are not “communist” areas, but are certainly the most liberal areas in Virginia. But, like I said, he could have left that alone.

rplat on October 6, 2008 at 4:06 PM

They’re also the most capitalistic areas of the state, which is why I find it odd that McCain’s surrogates would say that.

philnewkirk on October 6, 2008 at 4:44 PM

So if Obama wins, States Rights and Secession rhetoric heats up. ONly to be countered by the Left and Media as Racist talk from people who can’t handle a black president. Ugly times ahead

jp on October 6, 2008 at 4:45 PM

So if Obama wins, States Rights and Secession rhetoric heats up. ONly to be countered by the Left and Media as Racist talk from people who can’t handle a black president. Ugly times ahead

jp on October 6, 2008 at 4:45 PM

What do you mean?

philnewkirk on October 6, 2008 at 4:46 PM

“You’re not fooling anybody. Your last sentence is a dead giveaway, Mr. Astroturf.

fossten on October 6, 2008 at 4:34 PM”

Damn! You caught me! Congrats, Sherlock.

Roger Waters on October 6, 2008 at 4:48 PM

I don’t watch financial news very much. Do people really trust guy?

Mark1971 on October 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM

dunno. I like a really boring guy named Bob Brinker or Brinkert who does a radio show called Money Talk.

I wouldn’t ever trust a wild man type for financial advice, but I’m not into playing games with money outside of a casino.

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 4:53 PM

They meant to say MCCAIN is up 12% in virginia but it already went to press.

Oops why correct it now..

SaintOlaf on October 6, 2008 at 4:57 PM

I mean Obama - Pelosi - Reid - MSM - Courts/Judges, will make an unprecedented Liberal power grab and take the rest of our true Freedom away. Conservatives will be left countering with State’s Rights talking points and some will go the Secessionist route(see Article 10).

the Left/MSM will counter by calling all who oppose Obama on these grounds as Racist and point out Obama is black(remember Civil War), etc.

jp on October 6, 2008 at 5:01 PM

I mean Obama - Pelosi - Reid - MSM - Courts/Judges, will make an unprecedented Liberal power grab and take the rest of our true Freedom away. Conservatives will be left countering with State’s Rights talking points and some will go the Secessionist route(see Article 10).

the Left/MSM will counter by calling all who oppose Obama on these grounds as Racist and point out Obama is black(remember Civil War), etc.

jp on October 6, 2008 at 5:01 PM

Can I buy some pot from you?

philnewkirk on October 6, 2008 at 5:11 PM

There are over three weeks left…stop being wobbly. God is still in control of the universe: believe it Allah!

wepeople on October 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM

A candidate who barely graduated from college (2.01 overall GPA).

A candidate who was in the lower 50 percentile of the LSAT.

A candidate who is the only editor of the Harvard Law Review who has never published any scholarly treatise or article in regards to the law in the over 300 year history of the Review.

A candidate who has never passed any significant piece of legislation on any level in his short and insignificant career as a legislator.

The O in Obama is actually a zero. He is a mental midget.

Jdripper on October 6, 2008 at 5:23 PM

An Ayers/Wright offensive simply isn’t going to hack it; even I can’t be bothered with it today

EVEN YOU, AP???

Jim Treacher on October 6, 2008 at 5:45 PM

Can I buy some pot from you?

philnewkirk on October 6, 2008 at 5:11 PM

Good point, nobody’s been playing the race card. Well parried.

Jim Treacher on October 6, 2008 at 5:47 PM

This is what we get for nominating a media golem.

spmat on October 6, 2008 at 6:03 PM

Treacher seems to have sand in his vagina today. :-P

:-)

cyclosarin on October 6, 2008 at 6:35 PM

For all you poll watchers this was on CBS.com. Numbers are still adjusting and it’s not time to give up.

“(CBS) In a sign that the race for president has returned to about where it was before the first presidential debate, the Obama-Biden ticket leads the McCain-Palin ticket 47 percent to 43 percent among registered voters in a new CBS News poll.
The Obama-Biden ticket led by a wider margin, nine percentage points, in a CBS News poll released last Wednesday, before Joe Biden and Sarah Palin faced off in the vice presidential debate. Obama-Biden led by five percentage points on Sept. 25.

In the new poll, the Democratic ticket leads by 3 percentage points, 48 percent to 45 percent, among likely voters.”

rplat on October 6, 2008 at 6:46 PM

“You’re not fooling anybody. Your last sentence is a dead giveaway, Mr. Astroturf.

fossten on October 6, 2008 at 4:34 PM”

Damn! You caught me! Congrats, Sherlock.

Roger Waters on October 6, 2008 at 4:48 PM

Well Roger, I think you were assigned to Hot Air today too! Not realy fooling anyone… not scoring any points that I can tell…

CCRWM on October 6, 2008 at 6:58 PM

You can always tell when the polls are shifting away from Obama . . . most of the mainstream media stops reporting them.

rplat on October 6, 2008 at 7:04 PM

and that’s with Virginia and Nevada bpth in the toss-up column

Typo

Baphomet on October 6, 2008 at 7:04 PM

Today was supposed to show the results of the VP debate. Oooops.

By Wednesday we’ll see how the Ayers scandal looks in the polls. By mid next week we should be able to see the writing on the wall. If this works, McCain will gain, if not, Obama pulls away.

csdeven on October 6, 2008 at 7:17 PM

It’s only because Malkin’s Vents that I came to start with.. dont know why i keep do

VinceP1974 on October 6, 2008 at 3:20 PM

Er, to brush up on your grammar?

8-)

John from WuzzaDem on October 6, 2008 at 7:44 PM

It’s over. McCain has allowed the Dems to tar him with the economic mess when he should have done that to them from the start. He will try and respond now but the die is cast, it is too late. In the end he is basically another Dole. We need to quit nominating mealy mouth middle of the road morons like this, we need fighters that want to win. Sarah is a fighter but she can only do so much.

echosyst on October 6, 2008 at 7:45 PM

Treacher seems to have sand in his vagina today.

Good point, Sirocco McSnatch. If being tired of all the shrieking over one stupid poll after another means “sand in my vagina,” then surf’s up.

Jim Treacher on October 6, 2008 at 10:49 PM

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