Obama’s Keating moment: Glenn stumps for Team O

posted at 10:40 am on October 6, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

The Barack Obama campaign has decided to attack John McCain over his involvement in the Keating 5 scandal of the 1980s, but they have already demonstrated a rather peculiar way of doing it.  Team O deduces that a rehash of the 20-year-old scandal may resonate with the current financial crisis, which may be true.  If so, perhaps they should re-think their surrogate lineup:

When the astronaut made way for the Boss on the Oval, 10,000 people roared in unison, “Bruuuuce!”

“You don’t get introduced by John Glenn every day,” Bruce Springsteen said, breaking into an impromptu version of Mr. Spaceman.

The Ohio State University campus was in a festive mood yesterday as the rock legend performed a seven-song, solo acoustic set on behalf of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. The free event, one of several Springsteen is doing for the Illinois senator, highlighted Ohio’s early-voting law.

John Glenn?  Senator John Glenn got caught in the same Keating 5 scandal that Obama now wants to use as an attack on McCain.  The Keating 5 — Senators Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, Donald Riegle, Glenn, and McCain — stood accused of intervening with federal regulators on behalf of Lincoln Savings & Loan, which later went bankrupt and cost taxpayers $2 billion.  Glenn and McCain got cleared by the Senate of any wrongdoing, but were scolded for “poor judgment” in their contacts with Charles Keating.  Cranston, DeConcini, and Riegle all were found by the Senate Ethics Committee of having “substantially and improperly” interfered with the regulator (FHLBB) when it attempted to investigate Lincoln.  Cranston received a formal reprimand, and only Glenn and McCain won re-election after the scandal.

Is the Keating 5 scandal a legitimate political issue in this campaign?  Yes.  It involves McCain’s judgment and political record, and Obama can certainly raise it as a point for voters to consider.  However, McCain has never denied using poor judgment in this case and has repeatedly apologized for it.  He used that experience to commit himself to reforming the political system, angering fellow Republicans in fighting earmarks and pushing for campaign-finance reform.  He has put his political career at risk with his partnerships with Russ Feingold and other Democrats in this mission, all of which springs from his close brush with dishonor over the Keating 5 scandal.

Obama, on the other hand, has never fought anyone for reform, and the use of John Glenn as a surrogate makes Team Obama especially hypocritical in raising the Keating scandal.  If Glenn is clean, then so is McCain.  If McCain is tarnished, then so is Glenn.  Obviously, Glenn helps Obama in Ohio, so Obama has no real complaint over the Keating 5 scandal that outweighs his desire to win the election.  Like so much of Obama’s reform rhetoric, his faux outrage over the Keating 5 scandal shows him as nothing more than a poseur.

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Shame on John Glenn. What a disgrace. You would think a man of his generation would be able to see Obama more clearly than the millions of Springsteens who line up to foot wash The One.

hippie_chucker on October 6, 2008 at 10:46 AM

The MSM will avoid this.
The only way for this or any other of Obama’s associations can get any attention is if the candidate himself could go on offense and defend himself at all costs.
McCain is not doing himself any favors.

‘I want to be bipartisan.’ Shut up McCain. Be a man and stick up for yourself. I want a president who is not afraid to take on scoundrels like Obambi. The democRATS are not your friend. Look at how they lambasted him and he did not say a word in his defense. I am perplexed. Is McCain a surrogate for Obama or will he save us from this jerk being president?
Where is the passion and drive McCain?!

jencab on October 6, 2008 at 10:49 AM

If McCain continues ro refuse to go after Obama and the Dems on their causing the current financial meltdown then he deserves to lose. WTF is wrong with the guy?

Dems are evil after all and will lie, exaggerate, obfuscate, deny, or whatever is required to win while the GOP sits back and tries collectively to be the nice guys. Socialism isn’t worth maintaining respectful decorum. Get mad and go after the Dems before they inspire an Atlas Shrugged atmosphere and lead us into a depression. I for one don’t have the resources to move to a more friendly country.

DerKrieger on October 6, 2008 at 10:49 AM

It’s getting nasty.

Here’s a preview of what to expect in tomorrow’s debate.

fogw on October 6, 2008 at 10:50 AM

If they can blame the Republicans for not passing the bailout when congress is controled by Democrats, and do it with a straight face, then they will sleep just fine spinning this the way the Dems want it spun. Glen? Glen who?

Akzed on October 6, 2008 at 10:51 AM

So why is Obama doing this when it’s “over” and “winning” in all the polls? Isn’t now the time for Obama to stand above all this? Isn’t now the time for him to be presidential?

Weight of Glory on October 6, 2008 at 10:53 AM

‘Fight with me.’

I won’t fight for McCain if he does not do it himself. He can not expect talk radio to do all the work. He is not inspiring me or anyone. Palin is, but she is the VP. The presidential nominee needs to go at it.

God, I wish Romney or Giuliani was the nominee with Palin as VP. I know these men would attack and we would be in a better position for victory.

jencab on October 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM

Glenn’s defense, as I recall it, was that he had too much integrity to be bought for a measly $250,000.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on October 6, 2008 at 10:57 AM

Was this an official campaign funded event? If not I imagine that’d be the loophole his campaign would use if a reporter were to bring it up.

Typhonsentra on October 6, 2008 at 10:58 AM

Obama’s direct involvement with the latest housing scandal makes him the Black Knight from Monty Python’s Quest for the Holy Grail. All he can do is bleed on his opponent at this point.

As an attorney, Obama helped sue Citibank, which was trying to limit its exposure to what are now considered “toxic” loans. He alleged racism on the part of Citibank, and he won.

He must have won all over the country, because look at the shape our economy is in now — and it’s all based on the toxic lending Obama defended. It’s why I consider some banks to be as much victims as are the mortgagees — it’s starting to look like, in the end, banks had no choice but to make these loans.

It seems that playing the race card for profit has been the single constant in Obama’s life.

unclesmrgol on October 6, 2008 at 11:01 AM

This Keating Five attack won’t go very far. Here’s a quote from a recent article by Ann Coulter:

On MSNBC this week, Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter tried to connect John McCain to the current financial disaster, saying: “If you remember the Keating Five scandal that (McCain) was a part of. … He’s really getting a free ride on the fact that he was in the middle of the last great financial scandal in our country.”

McCain was “in the middle of” the Keating Five case in the sense that he was “exonerated.” The lawyer for the Senate Ethics Committee wanted McCain removed from the investigation altogether, but, as The New York Times reported: “Sen. McCain was the only Republican embroiled in the affair, and Democrats on the panel would not release him.”

So John McCain has been held hostage by both the Viet Cong and the Democrats.

in the middle in the sense that he was “exonerated”… you gotta love Coulter.

CC

CapedConservative on October 6, 2008 at 11:06 AM

‘Fight with me.’

I won’t fight for McCain if he does not do it himself. He can not expect talk radio to do all the work. He is not inspiring me or anyone. Palin is, but she is the VP. The presidential nominee needs to go at it.

God, I wish Romney or Giuliani was the nominee with Palin as VP. I know these men would attack and we would be in a better position for victory.

jencab on October 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM

Interestly, I was thinking the same re. Mitt and Rudy.

As Billy Cunningham says McCain needs to put some cheese on his cracker.

diogenes on October 6, 2008 at 11:09 AM

Better the Keating 5 than the Chicago 7.

Spanglemaker on October 6, 2008 at 11:10 AM

jencab on October 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM

I understand your frustration, but if you don’t want to fight for McCain, then figure out what is important to you in this election and fight for it. There’s plenty more to fight for than just McCain. Hang in there!

Mr_Magoo on October 6, 2008 at 11:10 AM

The best response to Nobama bringing up the Keating Five,is to say that McCain didn’t wait until he started running for president to distance himself from Keating.

mtbunji on October 6, 2008 at 11:10 AM

Disgraceful by Glenn. My admiration and respect has just evaporated. Perhaps he’s gone senile.

darwin on October 6, 2008 at 11:11 AM

The difference between Keating and Ayers is the public knows all about Keating and it has been several decades since it happened.

McCain has had a chance to show the public that he is not corrupt.

Nobody knows anything about Obama’s character except the has really bad taste in Mentors.

Elizabetty on October 6, 2008 at 11:16 AM

Mitt, Rudy, Fred… water under the bridge.

Quit dreaming and Cowboy Up! Do you want to sit around whining or just give up to a Socialist empty suit!?

Look around you, find an undecided voter and convince him/her to vote for our freedoms by voting McCain/Palin! Find out what worries them and give them the McCain/Palin solution. Energy, national security, whatever. Do it! Do it now!

With 96% of the population “claiming” they know who they are voting for, every vote counts!

Mr_Magoo on October 6, 2008 at 11:17 AM

Shame on John Glenn. What a disgrace. You would think a man of his generation would be able to see Obama more clearly than the millions of Springsteens who line up to foot wash The One.

hippie_chucker on October 6, 2008 at 10:46 AM

+1000

‘Fight with me.’

I won’t fight for McCain if he does not do it himself. He can not expect talk radio to do all the work. He is not inspiring me or anyone. Palin is, but she is the VP. The presidential nominee needs to go at it.

God, I wish Romney or Giuliani was the nominee with Palin as VP. I know these men would attack and we would be in a better position for victory.

jencab on October 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM

Pure, unmitigated bullshiite. You would rather sit back and beetch at John McCain, and blame him for your lack of interest in keeping Barack Obama out of the Oval Office.

McCain is studying for tomorrow’s debate. People here were screaming that Sarah Palin wasn’t out in public enough the days before her debate….and then she rocked, likely because of the time she spent preparing.

You know, sometimes work takes, oh, actual work. And sometimes work is done away from the crowds and cameras.

Oh, and shouldn’t it be a sign of John McCain’s STRENGTH that he’s willing to let his VP candidate be the public face of the ticket for a few days? She is out there answering the question of whether she can stand on her own two feet quite admirably.

But all you can do is beetch at John McCain.l

Typical of hotair commenters. sad

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 11:18 AM

It’s all politics and they will do ANYTHING to win, ANYTHING…

foxone on October 6, 2008 at 11:20 AM

Mr_Magoo on October 6, 2008 at 11:10 AM

Thanks for that. The problem is that I am frustrated that our nominee has no passion for the fight. He wants to claim bipartisanship, yet that is not working. I will vote for McCain and persuade others to do so, but it is up to the nominee to speak! Not everyone in the US listens to talk radio or watch Fox News. It is beyond appalling how McCain is acting like Bush in allowing democRATS to beat him down. As republicans, we are tired as hell about this. McCain is the leader of the party now. He has to act like one, you know.

jencab on October 6, 2008 at 11:22 AM

Better the Keating 5 than the Chicago 7.

Spanglemaker on October 6, 2008 at 11:

Post of the day.

Fuquay Steve on October 6, 2008 at 11:26 AM

Find out what worries them and give them the McCain/Palin solution. Energy, national security, whatever.
Mr_Magoo on October 6, 2008 at 11:17 AM

Focus on healthcare, national security and energy when you talk with undecideds. Those are 3 huge differences in the tickets.

Healthcare: NOBODY who has a healthcare plan wants universal healthcare. Give them examples of Canada and Britain and how bad it is there.

National Security: Obama wants to appease and reason with countries like Iran. He’ll gut the military budget like Clinton did.

Energy: Obama won’t take an all of the above approach.

Mr_Magoo on October 6, 2008 at 11:27 AM

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 11:18 AM

Look, I am trying to get McCain elected and will vote for McCain. But take it from Rush Limbaugh, Cunningham, Ingraham, Dennis Miller, Levin, Hannity, etc. McCain needs to take charge. Let’s hope that tomorrow will be the day.

jencab on October 6, 2008 at 11:28 AM

For those who don’t care to be nattering nabobs of negativism, I highly recommend listening to Tammy Bruce’s radio show. You can listen over the web if you don’t have a local radio station that carries her.

http://www.foxnews1280.com/

starting in less than 30 minutes.

Tammy Bruce is no sob sister, and if she has to get out on point with Sarah Palin for a couple more days while McCain does debate prep, she’s fired up to do it.

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 11:29 AM

If Obama wants his supporters to prop him up: then Clinton needs to get out and talk up Obama some more.

Haven’t heard his take on Palin’s performance at the debate, althought Hillary did weigh in (priceless)!

tru2tx on October 6, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Cunningham…you listen to that neanderthal? He hates McCain because McCain had to criticize the guy’s stressing BHO’s middle name at a campaign appearance several months ago.

Thank God McCain isn’t going to take advice from Cunningham or Ingraham or Malkin…3 people who have stated loud, proud, and for years how much they can’t stand him.

Limbaugh’s in that same boat, but appears to have gotton board at least the NObama train lately.

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 11:32 AM

I seriously thought John Glenn was dead; he’s been brain-dead for decades.

Captain Hate on October 6, 2008 at 11:32 AM

This is bad:

I won’t fight for McCain if he does not do it himself.
jencab on October 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM

This is good:

I will vote for McCain and persuade others to do so
jencab on October 6, 2008 at 11:22 AM

I don’t want you on the sidelines jencab. I share your frustrations. But even in his worst moments, McCain is worth fighting for – even if he won’t fight for himself.

Mr_Magoo on October 6, 2008 at 11:34 AM

So what? If a tree falls in the woods and the media doesn’t report it. It never happened.

ronsfi on October 6, 2008 at 11:35 AM

I’ve had it with the mainstream media and its what I consider CRIMINAL bias and blatant attempts to persuade public opinion. Obama has a past that is very anti-American and littered with shady people. Yet the media is more concerned about Palin’s daughter or her husband’s driving record.

Please take a moment to view my short videos that expose the truth about Obama and his past. Email these links to everyone you know!

Obama’s Endorsers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wIr9qSWKlw

Obama’s Influences: His Father
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMGyFREA_2s

Obama’s Influences: Frank Marshall Davis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tddfiG70pQ0

cannonball on October 6, 2008 at 11:38 AM

If Team Obama wants to drop the Keating Five bomb, I welcome them with open arms. McCain did NOTHING wrong other than excercise bad judgment. He disassociated once he learned of the legal issues.

Let’s promote the OBAMA FIVE instead.

cannonball on October 6, 2008 at 11:39 AM

Thank God McCain isn’t going to take advice from Cunningham or Ingraham or Malkin…
funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 11:32 AM

That’s stupid and has no basis in reality. Disagreeing with someone doesn’t mean you can’t give them good advice.

Ingraham interviewed McCain just days before he picked Palin. Laura implored him to pick a pro-life conservative. She had met Palin months before and was impressed with her. I’m not saying she had anything to do with his choice but it’s an example of how we can find something in common if we try hard enough – Libs aside, that is.

Mr_Magoo on October 6, 2008 at 11:40 AM

For those of you who seem to believe that Sarah Palin and John McCain aren’t running a coordinated attack….Palin brought up Obama’s statements about air raiding civilians on Friday morning…got buzz started over the weekend.

Monday morning BOOM TV ad on the same subject. Planned attack.

Sarah Palin brings up terrorist friends, and gosh, she does it right before Hannity’s hour long show. BOOM

not planned attack in co-ordination with Hannity, but damned smart timing by the campaign. Palin piqued people’s curiosity, and gosh darnit, if there isn’t a professionally produced news product out there to watch on the same topic.

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Mr. Magoo, sorry, but last week I tuned into Ingraham and she spent the entire segment I caught sniping at McCain. Not a word of support for him or criticism of Obama.

Malkin published a screed much like what the defeatists and concern trolls here at hotair say all the time over the weekend.

Our team has taken the field, the starting whistle has blown. Either we focus the assault on the opponent, or we cheerfully concede the game. It appears to me that Malin would rather forfeit than use her voice to push our team to victory.

It’s 3 weeks…surely we can fight together and focus our energies forward and focus on what we LIKE about our candidate rather than on what we DON’T like.

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 11:48 AM

I sure hope McCain and Obama get questions on Keating and Ayers at the debate. Just envision it:

MODERATOR: Senator McCain, your opponent has brought up your involvement with Charles Keating recently. How would you like to comment on this?

MCCAIN: I made a mistake, I got caught up in something I shouldn’t have, was cleared of wrongdoing, apologized for my actions, and have learned from the matter to forge ahead on fighting corruption in our government.

MODERATOR: OK, and Senator Obama, your opponent has brought up your involvement with Bill Ayes recently. How would you like to comment on this?

OBAMA: Don’t know what you’re talking about. I hardly know the guy, lives in my neighborhood, see him jogging by once in a while.

MODERATOR: ???

OBAMA: What?

Yeah, that will go down real well for Obama, won’t it. McCain gets to look honest and forthcoming, while he gets to continue to be the lying fool he’s always been.

Alternative response:

OBAMA: You know, when I was involved with this man, which was so, so, long ago, I never knew about his violent past.

MODERATOR: But you worked with him over a period of many years…?

OBAMA: Nuh uh!

Yeah, good luck Barry.

Seixon on October 6, 2008 at 12:00 PM

I won’t fight for McCain

Mark Levin:

If we don’t engage now, four and a half weeks out, then when are we going to engage? When it’s too late? I can hear the calls when they start passing this crap [that Obama wants]: “Mark, what can we do?” You can’t do anything. Don’t you see? It’s rigged. The courts no longer uphold the Constitution and limit the power of the elected branches. The elected branches keep pushing people onto the courts who will support what they’re doing. The Constitution is being shredded every single day. You’re losing liberty every single day. What do you want me to do? What can I say? If you’re not going to get engaged, no matter what kind of stupid comments John McCain makes… If you don’t get engaged — not for John McCain, for yourself, for your children, for your future — then what can I possibly tell you?

So if you won’t fight, then get the hell out of the way and shut up. You’re a waste of carbon.

rightwingprof on October 6, 2008 at 12:27 PM

Bruce has taken some time off from the show horse circuit to help America elect their first marxist president Barry O’Carter.

Two people that never had an actual job. Makes perfect sense.

DeweyWins on October 6, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Charlie Keating is the 1st to tell you you don’t get what you pay for with McCain. On the other hand Charlie went to jail for a $4b debacle. The F&F crowd defrauded a trillion and counting, received a billion in bonus and work for Obama.

i b squidly on October 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM

Typical of hotair commenters. sad

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 11:18 AM

What is sad is your typical defense of the Maverick.

Look, I’ve tried what you’ve suggested. I discussed the bailout issues with my carpool liberal friend and he was up in arms against it. Even he was thrilled with the bi-partisan rejection in the House, and had good things to say about Republicans and conservatives in leading the charge to reject that monstrosity.

And then it got to Congress…

And McCain voted in lockstep with Obama…

All posturing. No substance. His “suspending his campaign” was just a bunch of bull.

How can I advocate for McCain when he keeps shooting my arguments in the foot… illegal immigration, global warming caps, business bailout…

And you think we’re the problem????

dominigan on October 6, 2008 at 12:39 PM

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 11:48 AM

It’s called A-C-C-O-U-N-T-A-B-I-L-I-T-Y… the basis of our American culture. We hold our own accountable, not just the other party. I’m more afraid of people who like to mindlessly march in lockstep…

dominigan on October 6, 2008 at 12:42 PM

To put it in perspective… here are my feelings on the issue…

It reminds me of the scene in Braveheart where William Wallace is trying to convince the leader of the Bruces that “if he would just lead…”

dominigan on October 6, 2008 at 12:47 PM

domingan, you are pro-Obama

For everybody else who isn’t ready to be a defeatist sob sister:

http://www.talkradionetwork.com/site/preview?pref=100&pid=1012

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Oh way to go, Ohio…

Christine on October 6, 2008 at 12:52 PM

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 11:48 AM

And what do you suppose drove Obama back to the left after he suddenly veered to the center after winning the nomination? His supporters went ballistic! I think he heard them loud and clear. Just so happens McCain is too stubborn to listen.

Surely you generalize. Talk show hosts all stick with their own format. If you want to hear 15 hours a week bashing Obama, listen to Hannity, Gallagher, or any number of hosts. And Malkin has done plenty for “our team.” She was all over the Gwen Ifill thing. Give them credit where credit is due.

Mr_Magoo on October 6, 2008 at 12:55 PM

McCain has listened. He chose Sarah Palin for VP, right? He now says he supports border security as a national security concern. He helped the house GOP conservatives get their foot in the door of the Bush/Paulson/Pelosi/Reid negotiations. Nobody thinks to thank him for those things. It’s just more and more complaints about the man.

For the next 3 weeks, the objective MUST BE to defeat Barack Obama. It will take a concerted effort. Every person who spends time and demoralizes our efforts by attacks on John McCain is objectively working for Obama.

Friendly fire will kill you just as dead as hostile fire. It’s time to stop trying to frag John McCain.

Here’s Orwell:

Pacifism. Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me’. The idea that you can somehow remain aloof from and superior to the struggle, while living on food which British sailors have to risk their lives to bring you, is a bourgeois illusion bred of money and security. Mr Savage remarks that ‘according to this type of reasoning, a German or Japanese pacifist would be “objectively pro-British”.’ But of course he would be! That is why pacifist activities are not permitted in those countries (in both of them the penalty is, or can be, beheading) while both the Germans and the Japanese do all they can to encourage the spread of pacifism in British and American territories.

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 12:59 PM

I understand your frustration, but if you don’t want to fight for McCain, then figure out what is important to you in this election and fight for it. There’s plenty more to fight for than just McCain. Hang in there!

Mr_Magoo on October 6, 2008 at 11:10 AM

Repeats previous comment believing the saying that 30 days is a lifetime in politics.

Mr_Magoo on October 6, 2008 at 1:00 PM

God, I wish Romney or Giuliani was the nominee with Palin as VP. I know these men would attack and we would be in a better position for victory.

jencab on October 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM

Yep. Although I doubt Romney would have picked Palin. He probably would have gone for Pawlenty or some other “safe” pick.

Meh, you go to war with the army you have, and at least we have one brigade with a killer instinct (and lipstick).

spmat on October 6, 2008 at 1:02 PM

dominigan on October 6, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Ignore funky chicken. Just as you said, it’s about accountability. We’re in this mess because we didn’t hold our side accountable. Funky chicken would rather call you a democrat than admit any weakness in McCain.

kongzilla on October 6, 2008 at 1:05 PM

Nope. you two would rather help elect Barack Obama to be my husband’s Commander in Chief than support John McCain even marginally.

You would rather sit back and try to take McCain down.

pathetic.

For those who don’t agree with them, please listen to Tammy Bruce’s radio show:

http://www.talkradionetwork.com/site/preview?pref=100&pid=1012

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 1:08 PM

We’re in this mess because we didn’t hold our side accountable. Funky chicken would rather call you a democrat than admit any weakness in McCain.

kongzilla on October 6, 2008 at 1:05 PM

Good try again…
We are in this because the dems blocked every effort to reform. They voted in block, lockstep to not go along with the reforms McCain and the Republicans presented.
How can we “hold our side accountable” when the other side was in charge of the committees. And committee power dictates what comes up for discussion.
So if you meant “our side” as being the democrats then you are correct.
The Republicans did what they had to do, they just overrun by the democrats.
In the final weeks of a campaign, is the time to hold our voters accountable, we selected McCain, now let’s get him elected…unless you are a democrat.

right2bright on October 6, 2008 at 1:19 PM

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 1:08 PM

I’ll assume since you post so much that you read all of the comments. But obviously you don’t really pay much attention to what they’re saying. The majority of us want McCain to be more aggressive. A man like Obama shouldn’t even be this close to the presidency. You have a lot of nerve calling us pacifist when McCain himself won’t go on the attack! If Obama becomes my brother’s Commander in Chief you can blame McCain himself for waiting until 30 days before the election to fight for it.

kongzilla on October 6, 2008 at 1:21 PM

So what? If a tree falls in the woods and the media doesn’t report it. It never happened.

ronsfi on October 6, 2008 at 11:35 AM

Until later when the squirrel involved in the ‘attack’ declares the govt at fault (bcs of forest service management) bcs he lost all his nuts & demands the taxpayers bail him out of his current food crisis. Then we’ll hear about the tree. Heads will roll & no one will care that it was never initially reported.

Badger40 on October 6, 2008 at 1:25 PM

Pure, unmitigated bullshiite. You would rather sit back and beetch at John McCain, and blame him for your lack of interest in keeping Barack Obama out of the Oval Office.

McCain is studying for tomorrow’s debate. People here were screaming that Sarah Palin wasn’t out in public enough the days before her debate….and then she rocked, likely because of the time she spent preparing.

You know, sometimes work takes, oh, actual work. And sometimes work is done away from the crowds and cameras.

Oh, and shouldn’t it be a sign of John McCain’s STRENGTH that he’s willing to let his VP candidate be the public face of the ticket for a few days? She is out there answering the question of whether she can stand on her own two feet quite admirably.

But all you can do is beetch at John McCain.l

Typical of hotair commenters. sad

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 11:18 AM

How can I advocate for McCain when he keeps shooting my arguments in the foot… illegal immigration, global warming caps, business bailout…

And you think we’re the problem????

dominigan on October 6, 2008 at 12:39 PM

And Obama bin Biden would be better?

Here are some basic issues to use:

War on Terror
Second Amendment
Pro-life
Not a freaking Leftist (Hussein got Communist Party endorsement)
No terrorist ties

You play to the strengths, and “respectfully acknowledge” any “differences”. On most of those differences, McCain will come out ahead in a “lesser of two evils/weasels” comparison.

I was reminded of this by Benjamin Franklin recently, in opposition to “independent-minded” people bringing his statement about “liberty” versus “safety” comment (with the common misquotation): “We must all hang together, or assuredly, we shall all hang separately.”

In most elections, that would all be metaphorical. With “Mr. Truth Squad” Barack Hussein Mugabe, I’m not so sure.

Tommygun on October 6, 2008 at 1:30 PM

right2bright on October 6, 2008 at 1:19 PM

This is your weakness. You are willing to let our guys off the hook. You refuse to accept any blame at all. We were in the majority until the last 2 years. Once McCain’s cosponsored bill died (without much support from other republicans by the way) no serious attempts were made to do anything. Even now McCain refuses to call anybody out. He better start doing it tomorrow when he has a national audience.

kongzilla on October 6, 2008 at 1:33 PM

funky chicken on October 6, 2008 at 1:08 PM

I’ll assume since you post so much that you read all of the comments. But obviously you don’t really pay much attention to what they’re saying. The majority of us want McCain to be more aggressive. A man like Obama shouldn’t even be this close to the presidency. You have a lot of nerve calling us pacifist when McCain himself won’t go on the attack! If Obama becomes my brother’s Commander in Chief you can blame McCain himself for waiting until 30 days before the election to fight for it.

kongzilla on October 6, 2008 at 1:21 PM

I appreciate your sentiment. However, please consider.

As for BHO (I’m trying to be nicer about using, “Hussein”) being so close to the Presidency, that has nothing to do with McCain. It has to do with movements of the country to the Left, a Leftist media, and frankly, too little activism by the conservative/Right. When the Left can turn out hundreds at a simple “anti-war” protest, but the Right can barely get five people to counter it, people on the Right need to look at themselves.

When a Democrat campaign office is filled with workers and their families, while the GOP office has one person there because everyone else is “too busy,” people need to ask where their priorities are. (NOTE: I hear you: “I work.” “I have a family.” “I have responsibilities.” I’ve heard ALL the excuses, and most of the time, they are just that–excuses.)

When Leftists can gang up on a conservative, and other conservatives just let it happen–”It’s not my fight”–because they’re self-focused and so devoted to “individualism” they won’t back up the ideological cohort, people on the Right need to ask themselves how they would expect NOT to lose.

“Individualism” is self-defeating. Such a person willfully refuse to submit and commit to a cause, and then when the resultant defeat at the hands of an organized collective enemy occurs, he/she lose that individual freedom. How ironic.

If Obama does become CinC, I’ll blame the American people. I’ll blame the entire Right wing for not opposing him and his ilk more strongly in the YEARS and DECADES leading up to this. I’ll blame their focus on their own personal interests (faith, family, finances, fun, etc.), which led them away from standing against the Left.

It’s not just this election. It’s a history of neglect. Could McCain do more? Yes, and hopefully he will. Could he have done more before this, maybe.

But consider: People told me McCain was doing wrongly by laying low in the summer while Hillary and Hussein fought it out. I told them he was conserving resources (money and effort) until that was resolved. When it was, McCain let Hussein go too far with the “celebrity” factor, and then slammed him on it, along with his inexperience. And things evened out.

Now, McCain-Palin have had to struggle against some down points, including a less-than-solid backing from the GOP and the Right.

There is also another factor: MONEY. McCain does not have the foreign financial contributors Hussein does. He also, as stated above, does not have the volunteer base. He is at a big disadvantage that way, and thus must use his resources more wisely. Launching strong attacks without the ability to followup with campaigning can actually be counterproductive. The opposition and the media (same thing) can refute the attack, and then when you do try to follow up, it’s already been debunked in people’s minds.

Now offers an improving opportunity for the campaign. The debates offer some free exposure over the top of the media. And it’s easier to maintain a 30-day offensive than one a lot longer.

Please consider.

Tommygun on October 6, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Please take a moment to view my short videos that expose the truth about Obama and his past. Email these links to everyone you know!

Obama’s Endorsers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wIr9qSWKlw

Obama’s Influences: His Father
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMGyFREA_2s

Obama’s Influences: Frank Marshall Davis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tddfiG70pQ0

cannonball on October 6, 2008 at 11:38 AM

Thank you!!! Well done. I can’t see the first one (overseas), but the second two can be very effective!!!

Tommygun on October 6, 2008 at 2:02 PM

McCain DID use bad judgement and he’s apoligized and it set him up on the path of reforms.

Obama used bad judgement with Ayers and it helped set him up with REZKO
He used bad judgement with Wright
He used bad judgement to not support our troops.
He used bad judgement to pick Joe Biden
He used bad judgement to interfere with Iraq
He used bad judgement to not visit our troops
He used bad judgement to work with Franklin Raines…

The list is HUGE! Feel free to ad to it!

I’m ORIGINAL PECHANGA and I Approved this message

originalpechanga on October 6, 2008 at 2:23 PM

originalpechanga on October 6, 2008 at 2:23 PM

Excellent!

Tommygun on October 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Tommygun on October 6, 2008 at 1:51 PM

You make good points, nothing I would really argue with. But you can’t deny that a lot of Americans just simply don’t pay attention and fall for the touchy-feely crap.

kongzilla on October 6, 2008 at 2:54 PM

kongzilla on October 6, 2008 at 2:54 PM

Acknowledged. That is simply the way it is, and what we must contend with. It would be that way with McCain or anyone else.

But you point to another factor: Apathy. In this case, we can turn that in our favor. A lot of people don’t pay much attention to elections until about this time. So what have they seen:

1. McCain do well against Hussein.
2. Palin “exceed expectations” (i.e., “Hey, that hot Palin babe ain’t the ditz people said she was”).
3. The beginning of the attack.

Now is when it counts. Hussein can’t play rockstar now, and IF Mc-P open up with everything (and what they can’t or won’t use, the rest of us use [regardless of what Mc-P say--this is about the country and stopping Hussein, not them personally]), this can be won.

A friend of mine says the economy will kill McCain. His mistake is to think only in formulaic, rather than dynamic, terms. The anti-Hussein campaign simply goes to its strengths and attacks the enemy’s weaknesses. It’s all it can do.

That’s convenient, actually. No room for debate. What you need to do and what you can do are virtually one and the same.

Tommygun on October 6, 2008 at 3:23 PM

Why isn’t an event like this (free or paid) considered a campaign donation from Springsteen (even as an in-kind contribution) and subject to the $2,300/4,600 cap?

Bruce has easily lost tens of thousands or maybe millions of fans with his let-me-tell-you-who-to-vote-for-while-I-have-you-as-a-captive-audience speeches in between songs.
People pay to hear SINGING BRUCE. Maybe you could put your lefty views in a song like… like… like A SONGWRITER? Or start advertising your shows as a rally not a concert, Dumbass. Thanks, I feel better now.

NightmareOnKStreet on October 6, 2008 at 6:25 PM

Glenn and McCain got cleared by the Senate of any wrongdoing,

…cleared by a Democrat Senate, BTW.

jgapinoy on October 6, 2008 at 8:18 PM