New ads: Gun owners for and against Obama
posted at 3:44 pm on October 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The first clip comes from The One, the second from the NRA. Note the reference to criminal illegal aliens; that alone would be enough to tell you it’s not the handiwork of Team Maverick or the RNC.
For your companion reading, PJM’s primer on the Joyce Foundation’s legal scholarship campaign against Second Amendment rights. I trust board member Barack Obama voted “present.”
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wow the production on that second ad was perfect really really well done. and i love how 1/2 of obamas ad was about jobs overseas…when your gun rights ad spends 1/2 its time on jobs overseas…seems like gun rights arent your strong point.
ernesto on October 6, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Gotta love the NRA.
Spirit of 1776 on October 6, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Defend Freedom, Defeat Obama!
I like the way that sounds.
winemkr on October 6, 2008 at 3:49 PM
I’ve never owned a gun in my life, but the first thing I’m going to do if Obama gets elected is to buy one.
When an unqualified, corrupt and incompetent politician takes over who is clearly hostile to the country he’s supposed to be serving, that’s what you do. You arm yourself.
NoDonkey on October 6, 2008 at 3:49 PM
Joyce Foundation needs to be front and center for the NRA. Educate the public ASAP.
Kevin in Washington State on October 6, 2008 at 3:50 PM
ernesto on October 6, 2008 at 3:48 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing about the first ad, ernesto. I couldn’t view the second ad though.
Torch on October 6, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Until the Messiah and Congress follow in the footsteps of Britain and ban handguns.
m064404 on October 6, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Honestly considering the same.
Count to 10 on October 6, 2008 at 3:51 PM
Can we check Greg West’s membership in the NRA? If he is a life member, then he needs to have his membership revoked and an IQ test administered. I’m a member of the NRA and I can’t believe that a supposed NRA life member would support this Marxist. Maybe his life membership was a gift.
flytier on October 6, 2008 at 3:52 PM
ernesto on October 6, 2008 at 3:48 PM
I watched it twice because I figured there had to be some transition between second amendment rights and outsourcing jobs that I was just missing. What a bizarre ad.
Quisp on October 6, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Um, what does “shipping” jobs overseas have to with gun rights? I must be some dumb rube since I don’t see the connection. Can anyone explain the connection?
Lance Murdock on October 6, 2008 at 3:54 PM
McCain campaign debate material.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 6, 2008 at 3:54 PM
From my cold dead hand….per Charlton Heston and Me
tru2tx on October 6, 2008 at 3:54 PM
I thought the same thing. When that guy said that crap, I kept thinking WTF do these two have in common?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 6, 2008 at 3:55 PM
I love my NRA!
TexasJew on October 6, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Bait and switch.
tru2tx on October 6, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Wow, a whole what, one NRA guy who likes Obaby? Check the overall percentage of NRA members and you will find overwhelming dismissal of Obisquick.
Bishop on October 6, 2008 at 3:56 PM
McCain loses….we need to mob the NRA with money and support….
they’ll be busy.
sven10077 on October 6, 2008 at 3:57 PM
+2
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a sharp uptick in firearms sales between November and January if Der Messiah is elected.
CurtZHP on October 6, 2008 at 3:57 PM
– President Ronald Reagan
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 6, 2008 at 3:57 PM
I love the Emperors new politics. I feel so good that Obama is bringing us all together now in one big happy family. YAY!!!
Lance Murdock on October 6, 2008 at 3:59 PM
McCain loses….we need to mob the NRA with money and support….
they’ll be busy.
sven10077 on October 6, 2008 at 3:57 PM
The new DFL primacy would simply repeal the second amendment, then I would be moving to Texas for the inevitable uprising.
Bishop on October 6, 2008 at 4:00 PM
I would not wait until after the election to purchase a handgun. If the selected one wins, the first thing they will enact is to ban handgun ammunition and then guns. Sounds unbelievable but I have no doubt that will happen and quickly. Overthrowing our democracy will require the rapid disarming of citizens (for our own protection). It is the last protection given to us by our founding fathers and for good reason.
trs on October 6, 2008 at 4:01 PM
be careful or BradKY will call you an alarmist….
*wink*
you’ll hardly be alone friend.
sven10077 on October 6, 2008 at 4:01 PM
I looked into this years ago in regard to removing Michael Moore’s lifetime membership (yes, he has one–from a shooting club growing up or something). It can be done. It involves petitioning the Board of Directors. But from personal experience with a LOT of organization (politicl or whatever), such groups don’t like to do that. “Slippey slope,” I suspec.
Tommygun on October 6, 2008 at 4:05 PM
Sounds like a variation on “you must be a redneck” riff.
You know you’re a liberal Democrat when…..
…..Your gun rights ad spends half its time on outsourcing.
…..Your economic advisors were responsible for bringing down the mortgage industry.
…..Your defense strategy involves the use of a white flag.
…..You quote your college transcript to prove your foreign affairs credentials.
…..You suddenly find yourself disowning your associates, friends, pastors, and (sometimes) spouse.
highhopes on October 6, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Part 3: God and Ronald Reagan –
Finding God in Hollywood
Yeah. It’s that important.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 6, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Yes!
Tommygun on October 6, 2008 at 4:07 PM
Everybody’s welcome in Texas!
p.s. Don’t forget medical/first aid supplies, and get some first aid training.
RushBaby on October 6, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Allow me to explain. You see, since we have the 2nd highest corporate tax rates in the world, businesses are moving offshore or outsourcing jobs e.g. to India to save money. Hussein would exacerbate this problem by raising taxes on everyone and everything, while at the same time doing everything in his power to force these corporations to stay domiciled here, making their bankruptcy inevitable. In short, to ensure that businesses do not move offshore, he will destroy them.
In much the same way, he will destroy gun rights with “sensible gun control” to ensure that although we might still be allowed to own guns, bullets will be taxed a $5 each, gun stores will be legislated out of existence, and lawsuits will drown gun manufacturers. All of this in order to preserve the rights of law-abiding gun owners, meaning hunters.
Akzed on October 6, 2008 at 4:08 PM
Democrats will seek to deny individuals constitutionally guaranteed rights they disagree with..
and create one’s where none exist..
theblacksheepwasright on October 6, 2008 at 4:08 PM
“So… it’s clear what I’m saying…” -Johnny Gasparo.
Akzed on October 6, 2008 at 4:09 PM
True.
Tommygun on October 6, 2008 at 4:09 PM
DEFEND FREEDON! DEFEAT OBAMA! I LOVE IT!!!
ConservativePartyNow on October 6, 2008 at 4:10 PM
How did we get from jobs overseas to the lie that Obama wants people to own guns?
Obama is the Janus candidate. A god with two faces.
Hening on October 6, 2008 at 4:11 PM
You may want to consider making that purchase before Nov. 4.
BadDogMN on October 6, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Lefty Logic. Remember when Cameron Diaz told her fans not to vote for Bush because his position on Roe vs. Wade would lead to more rapes?
Disturb the Universe on October 6, 2008 at 4:13 PM
They make guns overseas, y’know.
MrScribbler on October 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Correct, and you may also want to consider buying off the record from an individual, maybe in another town, and paying cash.
One of the first things the banners will do is collect the sales records from licensed dealers. One of the next things they will do is find you, if you are in those records.
MikeA on October 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Nobody ever lost an election by underestimating the gullibility and irrationality of the American Left.
Akzed on October 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM
“I wouldn’t be surprised to see a sharp uptick in firearms sales between November and January if Der Messiah is elected.”
Already has been, and the prices for firearms are getting crazy. Ammo has been on the rise for almost a year and now is at least 30-50% higher than a year ago.
Farmer62 on October 6, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Well I already knew that he would help push more jobs overseas with higher taxes, but I still think it is a cheap hit to McCain while expressing his ‘love’ for guns.
Lance Murdock on October 6, 2008 at 4:16 PM
I didn’t say it made sense.
Akzed on October 6, 2008 at 4:16 PM
I was trying to think using liberal “logic.” I got nauseus and my head exploded.
Akzed on October 6, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Fixed.
fossten on October 6, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Sounds like I need to get the ol’ Rock Chucker up and running again, put in a storeload of bullets, powder and brass.
You think Clinton’s gun bullshit was bad, you just wait and see if Obappo gets elected, you can kiss away just about everything having to do with guns, much less the guns themselves.
Bishop on October 6, 2008 at 4:18 PM
That second ad was great. I even recognize that downtown San Antonio street corner shown at 00:16! This ad points out something that I know to be true: Many South Texas Hispanics love to hunt and are AVID gun-owners. I doubt such folks will vote for Obama in large numbers. (The illegals who are permitted to vote, on the other hand, ….)
sanantonian on October 6, 2008 at 4:20 PM
A better argument could be made for getting your weapons before Nov. 4th if Obama is not elected.
Remember the Philly Inquirer columnist predicting riots in the streets?
These are the words of Stalinists…..like the DA in Missouri threatening legal action on anti-obama ads.
The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is protection against a tyrannical government.
Let’s roll.
ex-Democrat on October 6, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Union thug who has been brainwashed into thinking that economically illiterate Obama is somehow going to help his job situation.
Fool.
Jaibones on October 6, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Geez Mr. Fed, I would love to give you my guns but they all fell in the lake last year. Yes, all of them. Sad, isn’t it?
Bishop on October 6, 2008 at 4:24 PM
Fed’s Response: Do you have proof? Did you file a report with the local cops?
fossten on October 6, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Ours got stolen in a burglary a couple of years ago.
RushBaby on October 6, 2008 at 4:27 PM
BTW, I am still able to find great deals on .223 and 5.56 ammo at my local Fleet supply and at Cabelas. I usually buy one to two boxes of ammo per week and am building up quite a store of them.
Bishop on October 6, 2008 at 4:27 PM
More gun “owners” for Obama
BrianA on October 6, 2008 at 4:27 PM
That article is shocking! That’s not the Obama I knew! I guess I completely missed the news cycle where everyone was talking about how Obama spent 8 years working to overturn the 2nd amendment.
An ad that said more about his executive experience doing that, played daily for 3 weeks, would be the smart move now.
NellE on October 6, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Ours got stolen in a burglary a couple of years ago.
RushBaby on October 6, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Awful, just awful. I feel your pain.
Don’t pay attention to the scraps of large PVC tubing in the garbage, those were for my…uh…my septic system. Yeah, that’s it.
Bishop on October 6, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Where did the Obama camp find this “NRA member”? My local gun club has over 250 members, all of whom are NRA members, none of whom are Bambi supporters.
Sometimes the bs is just sooo obvious.
pugwriter on October 6, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Wish I could. Didn’t make sense to me either. He simply asserts that Obama won’t take guns away, without backing it up, and then moves on to jobs being moved overseas as though that’s what NRA people really care about.
I’m not part of the NRA, so maybe I’m missing one of their core principles, but I doubt it.
Esthier on October 6, 2008 at 4:29 PM
I’m gonna do an in-depth post on it too, but I’ll give a basic explanation. What Obama is doing is a few things, first, he’s trying to drive a wedge between different gun groups, and the second is that he’s trying make outsourcing and the economy the biggest perceived threat to blue collar types who are socially more conservative and are often hunters and gunowners.
doubleplusundead on October 6, 2008 at 4:30 PM
I think I’ll be headed to Alaska though, I don’t care for large spiders.
Browncoatone on October 6, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Fed’s Response: Do you have proof? Did you file a report with the local cops?
fossten on October 6, 2008 at 4:27 PM
No, I wasn’t aware I had to, Mr. Fed. They weren’t stolen, they were lost, you know, as in LOST. But I would be happy to go down to the local PD office to make a report, if that is what is required.
What’s that, Mr. Fed? Twenty million other gun owners have also declared losing their firearms in a lake? Geez, that’s too bad, sounds like you will be awfully awfully busy investigating all those people.
Have a nice day.
Bishop on October 6, 2008 at 4:32 PM
I think I’ll be headed to Alaska though, I don’t care for large spiders.
Browncoatone on October 6, 2008 at 4:32 PM
You make a cogent point. Alaska may be a smarter choice.
Bishop on October 6, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Greg West = ignorant tool.
AZCoyote on October 6, 2008 at 4:35 PM
If anyone on our deer lease said they were voting for Obama, they would be refunded their dues and asked to leave immediately.
There is always one Judas you can find to make an ad like that, and I’d bet a dollar that guy hasn’t hunted in years.
quax1 on October 6, 2008 at 4:36 PM
I smell the AFL/CIO all over that first ad. The reason for the jobs thing is to keep the union guys on the plantation.
CrazyGene on October 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Those of you who don’t yet own a gun should definitely arm yourselves asap. One centerfire semi-auto rifle (think about availability of magazines and ubiquitous ammunition), one sidearm, and one shotgun for each member of the family. That’s a good starting point. If you can’t afford all three, focus on the rifle with at least 6 magazines and as much ammunition as you can afford. Then, practice, practice, paractice. Rifle ain’t no good if you can’t hit with it and maintain it. Ditto to whoever mentioned medical supplies and training.
As far as the gummint going door to door with lists of gun owners…If you haven’t headed to the hills by that point, it may well be too late. I’ll be gone the minute there are rumors of such activity.
Barntender on October 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Obama and Ayers on a panel against prosecuting violent teens as adults, convened by Michelle (and I don’t mean Malkin):
http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/971106/justice.shtml
scrub_oak on October 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Everyone, I get it.
I posted that comment more as a metaphorical comment than an actual question. I know the two issues have nothing to do with each other.
I just wanted to say that it is disgusting that the Obama campaign is disgusting in trying to scare gun owners with this ad. What does one issue have to do with the other nothing. I mean by that commercial’s logic, The Emperor can correlate any McCain position to attack from.
It’s Chicago politics at its best.
Lance Murdock on October 6, 2008 at 4:41 PM
I’ll be gone the minute there are rumors of such activity.
Barntender on October 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM
If it ever did come to confiscation, the nation would be in danger of far larger abuses at the hands of the government; the guns go first, everything else comes after.
I would be right behind you, setting a land speed record to my north-woods cabin.
Bishop on October 6, 2008 at 4:42 PM
Everyone, I get it.
I posted that comment more as a metaphorical comment than an actual question. I know the two issues have nothing to do with each other.
I just wanted to say
that it is disgustingthat the Obama campaign is disgusting in trying to scare gun owners with this ad. What does one issue have to do with the other nothing. I mean by that commercial’s logic, The Emperor can correlate any McCain position to attack from.It’s Chicago politics at its best.
Lance Murdock on October 6, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Lance Murdock on October 6, 2008 at 4:43 PM
At an NRA breakfast a long time ago, the President of H&K spoke. He was/is Belgian, I think. He related an incident from his early youth when the NAZI’s (Gestapo/SS) showed up at his neighbors house. They had the gun registration list. When the neighbor protested that his gun had been stolen, the just shot him and his family.
Yes we can.
CrazyGene on October 6, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Browncoatone and Bishop: Alaska’s growing season is too short. Think year round water, location away from major population centers, long growing season and good soil. Alaska is great for all but the growing season and the logistics of getting resupplied.
Barntender on October 6, 2008 at 4:45 PM
The moral in the first video is quite clear……owning a gun doesn’t make you smart. Apparently there are some real idiots out there, some even like firearms.
David in ATL on October 6, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Barntender on October 6, 2008 at 4:45 PM
So where then? Hunting and fishing are good in Alaska and I do both, not so good at farming. What would be your suggestion?
Bishop on October 6, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Doesn’t Chicago have a ban on handguns and more people killed there in a month than in Iraq?
justincase on October 6, 2008 at 4:48 PM
I wouldn’t wait. Nor would I limit myself to one. Get a good pump action 12-gauge, a .45ACP pistol (or .357 Magnum, if wheelguns are more your thing), and a good .30-06 rifle (I’d recommend a Remington 700).
Not paranoid — just a gun nut.
rightwingprof on October 6, 2008 at 4:53 PM
I think most of us know that, or at least I do, but want to comment on the absurdity of it anyway, which is what I assumed you were doing when I responded.
Esthier on October 6, 2008 at 4:54 PM
OK, if 0bama wins.
one. We all move to Alaska.
two. Alaska declares independence.
three. We make Palin President.
mad saint jack on October 6, 2008 at 4:55 PM
Every Democrat Pres. we’ve had since Johnson has combined together to create this economic crisis we’re experiencing right now and they were all elected using this principle.
Speakup on October 6, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Where I live 8 mo. a year it is illegal for anyone except hunting club members to own a gun and I have no problem with it.The city is safe beyond belief,A lone female can walk across town at 3am. and not be concerned,I’ve been to many events of hundreds of thousands of people all drinking and have never seen a confrontation.Course they are 99% white,dose it matter,I don’t know,but it’s nice.When I get home for the winter one of the first things I do is check that my guns are in clean working order and rarely leave the house unarmed,it’s a sad fact it’s come to this but i’ll never be caught again with just my d##k in my hand when I need alittle more.If the one tries takeing my rights away there will be blood.
budaside on October 6, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Obama may support hunting but he will appoint, and his democratic congress, will confirm, Supreme Court judges who will allow sever restrictions on handguns, then ammo, then long arms. This may take awhile but they will have the time since only one or two young judges could give them control of the Supreme Court for decades. Obama could then blame it on someone else, like he does everything else. Want a gun? Buy it now, or better, buy several.
mytralman on October 6, 2008 at 5:02 PM
To all those who say they don’t have or need a firearm now.
Don’t wait.
The day you need one is not a good day to pick one up for the first time.
Firearms requires skill, and skill requires practice.
mad saint jack on October 6, 2008 at 5:02 PM
Nice link, THX.
Which gang do they belong to???
mad saint jack on October 6, 2008 at 5:11 PM
What makes me think that Greg West became an NRA life member just a few day before the ad was made?
Helloyawl on October 6, 2008 at 5:19 PM
I’ll bet you a brick of .22 LR that the NRA has already done that, or is doing that right now. If he is not a life member, or is recently a life member, expect the NRA to make sure that the s**t hits the rotating blades.
Yoop on October 6, 2008 at 5:24 PM
NRA is Expanding Anti-Obama Ad Campaign
I should also mention American Hunters and Shooters Association, which is a FALSE FLAG group that is running radio ads supporting 0bama. (follow the link for a podcast.)
mad saint jack on October 6, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Holy shit, that liveleak vid was awesome, Mac was kicking his ass across the yard. Whoa, who replaced McCain with an Attack Cyborg™?
Bishop on October 6, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Me too. Actually, I’m thinking I’d better do it before inauguration day. And I’m actually for some gun control. Great job by the politician of change pushing some of us further to the right.
Y-not on October 6, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Texas people….we can ally ourselves with Alaska….
sven10077 on October 6, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Gun confiscation?
The government can’t/won’t do anything about 20 million, unarmed illegal aliens in this country.
Do ya’ll really think the government can take guns from 40 million, legally armed, pi**ed-off citizens?
Nonsequitur on October 6, 2008 at 5:47 PM
What kind of accent did that guy in the Obama ad have? Sounded like a furriner to me
Buford Gooch on October 6, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Why wait?
RobertCSampson on October 6, 2008 at 5:57 PM
How about Doll owners against obama?!..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKahCRbWnkw
and just in time for CHRISTmas!….NOT!
just had to share.
christene on October 6, 2008 at 6:05 PM
x1000
aikidoka on October 6, 2008 at 6:08 PM
The NRA spends a lot of money educating the public. Unfortunately, there are still those out there who don’t see the constitutional right to bear arms as pertaining to today’s firearms. My husband and I are well armed and intend to stay that way…no matter what. We are both lifetime members of the NRA. “From my cold dead hands.”
Glynn on October 6, 2008 at 6:10 PM
He is a Fudd. That NRA member or any that votes for Barry should have his membership revoked and get a stern talking to from the Nuge.
SA
scipioafricanus on October 6, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Yes, I do. Those 40 million pissed off citizens will go the same way the Aussies did if the penalties are strong enough for noncompliance. Sure, there would be some skirmishes along the way but armed citizens are no match for paramilitary law enforcement if it comes to that. The grabbers wouldn’t just rush into it headlong. It would be well planned out, legal(by their definition), and much better organized than any armed resistance movement. Wish it weren’t so, but history tells me otherwise.
a capella on October 6, 2008 at 6:49 PM
I don’t think you will have to move to Texas if the Obama marxist/socialist/liberal POSs win. Remember, about 31 states are red and 19 are blue. That may change a little, but the red states are very red and the blue states are sorta baby blue. Just stand pat and maybe the blue states will go away. Remember, it won’t take much to let those blue state bastards starve and freeze in the dark.
As for handy arms, I won’t go into what I have, but in my family is the owner of a semi-automatic 12 gauge shotgun shooting #2 or #3 buckshot (not birdshot). That is like sending 16- .30 caliber projos downrange at a time as fast as your finger can squeeze the trigger. And those da libs are worried about semi-automatic rifles! I have also found that wadcutters in a Blackhawk 357 revolver do awesome work.
Old Country Boy on October 6, 2008 at 8:04 PM
To NoDonkey, Count to 10, and anyone else thinking along the same lines, don’t wait. The prices between Nov 4 and Jan 20 may go through the roof.
As for disarming 40 million of us(there are actually more than 80 million of us), there are enough of us who, like me, will not comply with or stand for a confiscation of any kind. The confiscators will have to be willing to kill and accept the risk of being killed themselves to get any of mine.
Look at your rights and freedoms as what would be required to survive and be free as if there were no government. Governments come and go, but your rights live on. If you wish to survive government, you must protect with jealous resolve all the powers that come with your rights – especially with the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Without the power of those arms, you will perish with that government – or at its hand.
Woody
woodcdi on October 6, 2008 at 8:14 PM
I was thinking the same thing…also, Obama is running the same sort of ad on the radio, with some guy who used to play pro football and now runs some sort of shooter’s group. Once again, the abrupt shift from guns to outsourcing jobs. Weird.
uncivilized on October 6, 2008 at 8:28 PM
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