Iran: Hey, oil prices are dropping too low!
posted at 11:44 am on October 6, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Iran has watched the drop in oil prices with growing alarm, the International Herald-Tribune reports, and it wants OPEC to take action to support prices at higher than $100 per barrel. Iran expresses its concern for consumers as prices drop, but their concern involves their own production. As the price drops, the Iranians have less money for other purposes (via Meryl Yourish):
Iran’s Oil Minister said Saturday that it would be “unsuitable” for both producers and consumers for oil to dip below US$100 a barrel.
Gholam Hossein Nozari spoke on the sidelines of an international gas conference in Tehran, and urged fellow members of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, or OPEC, not to pump too much oil and avoid a drop in prices.
“A price of US$100 and below is not suitable for anybody, neither oil producers nor oil consumers,” he told reporters. “OPEC members need to respect their output quota to avoid a worsening of the oversupply,” Nozari said.
Nozari said oil producers were pumping around 400,000 barrels per day more oil than the market needed.
The problem is significantly more complicated than an overproduction, and cutting back on output won’t address the price enough to make it pay. The same speculators who got so much calumny heaped on their heads when prices rose to $147 a barrel are now calculating that the world will enter a tough recession over the next few months, at least. The low prices reflect their assessment that demand will continue to decrease as economies contract, as manufacturers and service providers will need less energy. A price increase under these circumstances might initially result in higher revenues for producers, but it will also likely prolong the recession. The global financial markets will need cheaper energy in order to rebound.
Oil fell below $90 per barrel today for the first time in a year. That puts a great deal of pressure on two economies in particular: Iran and Russia, not coincidentally partners on the nuclear-power project at Bushehr. Both countries fund their rogue ambitions through expensive energy supplies. Iran has to import refined gasoline, which it subsidizes for Iranians in order to keep them happy, and the enormous profits it gets from pumping crude funds that as well. Without ready access to massive profits from oil production, the Iranians can’t afford to fund terrorism, its nuclear-weapons program, and gasoline subsidies at the same time. Something will have to give, and if it’s gasoline subsidies, they may face even more political unrest than they do now.
OPEC has hinted they will wait to defend prices for the $80 per barrel level. They have two reasons to allow prices to fall to this level. It makes it somewhat less cost-efficient for the US to start massive new exploration and production efforts, which would kick out a major strut on the price of crude oil. They may also want to hobble Iran. Saudi Arabia in particular has major concerns over Iran’s nuclear-weapons pursuits, and the best way to contain them is to strip them from their cash. Certainly, no other strategy has proven worthwhile. This could be a major front on an economic war against the mullahs of Iran, at least coincidental if not deliberate.
Iran can continue to cry, and they can share a Kleenex with their Russian partners.
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I’d like to ask them how their country survived from 1990-2000 when oil was 20 bucks a gallon.
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
MadisonConservative on October 6, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Iran complaining about ‘low’ crude prices, that is the world’s smallest violin.
Poor babies, can’t fund terrorism and your pursuit of nuclear weapons at the same time. AWE!!! Cry me a river your f’ing bastards.
Lance Murdock on October 6, 2008 at 11:53 AM
It is ‘unsuitable’ for consumers to not fund Iran’s nuclear program. Oh, the inhumanity!
/sarc
Right_of_Attila on October 6, 2008 at 11:53 AM
I remember watching Glenn Beck a few months back and he said an economist (I think economist) told him that if oil starts dropping like a rock, it’s a BAD sign. It’s a sign that there’s a problem with the world’s perception of the US financially speaking. It’s a good news/HORRIBLE news thing.
Gas prices are dropping very quickly where I live (rural Indiana). $3.38 this morning. I think I might start filling up only half-way so I don’t get stuck filling up when prices are high.
Oink on October 6, 2008 at 11:53 AM
Good. I wish our politicians would get it through their heads that we could completely change the dynamic in the world today if only we pumped and consumed more domestic oil. The best kind of enemy is one that can’t afford to oppose you.
I was talking to a friend today and he suggested that we use tax cuts on domestic oil production as incentives to increase production. As the cost per barrel decreased, the profit margin could increase due to lowered taxes on production. No idea what the math would be, but at the least it could guaranteee they would maintain their current or even a better profit margin while making our lives suck much less. Keep dreaming…
blankminde on October 6, 2008 at 11:54 AM
Take a big, sloppy bite of that shit sandwich, Iran.
wildweasel on October 6, 2008 at 11:54 AM
Well when you pump it out and hold it or plug a well for “safe keeping” until a interested party comes along. They probably didn’t do anything but sit on it.
But I can research it.
upinak on October 6, 2008 at 11:55 AM
I’d like to ask them how their country survived from 1990-2000 when oil was 20 bucks a gallon.
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
MadisonConservative on October 6, 2008 at 11:46 AM
Ferris:
Barrel, not gallon. There are 42 gallons in a barrel.
We conservatives can’t afford to be as ignorant as Pelosi or Ed Markey on this issue.
And they (Iran) did not survive well during that period.
btw - this may be a good time to bomb the bastards, before oil returns to $100+
TexasJew on October 6, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Iran and Russia (and maybe China) hobbled by falling oil prices.
“Time to drill and go for the kill!”
redshirt on October 6, 2008 at 11:55 AM
You mean gasoline, Oink. I wish I was paying 3.38… I am paying 3.99 as of today.
upinak on October 6, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Stay on message: Drill Here, Drill Now
Drive the price even lower to bankrupt these thugocracies.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 6, 2008 at 11:56 AM
Does anybody subscribe to the Glenn Beck theory that in the $70-$80 range that Iran, Russia and Venezuela will have to do something very dramatic to push the price up?
CC
CapedConservative on October 6, 2008 at 11:56 AM
TJ if I remember right, didn’t they P&A the wells? Since no one wanted the oil at that time?
upinak on October 6, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Do we really need any other reasons for the U.S. to seek energy independence?
Bueller?
shick on October 6, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Yeah, I just noticed that. Still haven’t woken up.
MadisonConservative on October 6, 2008 at 12:00 PM
In responding to the huge drop in oil prices, Joe Biden announced, “It’s unpatriotic to pay less than $6 a gallon for gas.”
fogw on October 6, 2008 at 12:00 PM
We need energy independence. Drive it to $5.00 a barrel and the Arabs/Persians can go back to herding goats in the desert, as Allah intended them to do.
NoDonkey on October 6, 2008 at 12:00 PM
Snappy!
Disturb the Universe on October 6, 2008 at 12:00 PM
I’m telling you folks, if we don’t start “drill baby drill” and nuclear, solar, wind, hydro, all the above, we’re commiting suicide as a country.
Consider this scenario… we’re a fruitful country and produce zillions of bushels of grain and produce livestock. Let’s say the government tells us we can’t use our own ground for grain and we can no longer grow livestock. They tell us we have to import our food from foreign countries who hate us and absolutely don’t care if we suffer physically or financially. Then when the citizens complain to government, they tell us our ground is too precious to use. We destroy the environment by working the ground. So we’re left to suffer through. Like it or starve Citizens!
Now I am telling you, if we don’t get on the stick and do it quickly, we’re going to be “starving” concerning oil/energy.
Oink on October 6, 2008 at 12:01 PM
The economist was wrong. Part of the reason oil is dropping is because oil is still priced in dollars and the dollar is rising (so its worth more than oil) and because Iran decided to sell their oil in Euros… which is dropping against the dollar.
Skywise on October 6, 2008 at 12:02 PM
“Do we really need any other reasons for the U.S. to seek energy independence?”
But that would hurt our wildlife?
Particularly the American Jackass.
Which I would rather seen extinct, but our absolutely worthless, hopelessly corrupt and chronically incompetent Democrat politicians feel differently.
NoDonkey on October 6, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Yep! Sure I mean gas.
UPINAK, is it true that prices of pretty much everything are usually higher in AK?
Oink on October 6, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Madison **hands coffee over** if it gets below a certain amount, they will have to “shut off” areas and sell the “sweet” crude more then others.
It happened here in the U.S. where we just stopped working on items, and walked away. They will have to do the same.
Oil has to be about 34.00-42.00 bbl (as in the 80’s and 90’s it was about 21-25) to keep working it. If it drops down to low, watch people stop producing.
upinak on October 6, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Low oil prices are racist.
Bishop on October 6, 2008 at 12:03 PM
“CapedConservative on October 6, 2008 at 11:56 AM”
um, no — but even so, let ugo and vladdie bring it — it would all but guarantee ~390 EVs for John!
Buckaroo on October 6, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Several gas stations in Delaware were selling gas at #3.19 yesterday. Time to dust off the dogsled upi.
fogw on October 6, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Oink, yes it is. But it is usually for items that do not come in often, until lately.
I now pay for a pack of smokes anywhere from 6.50 to 8.50. I bought a 1 liter of soda last night for 2.59. I guess I will have to drink more tap water.
Coffee (lets say dunkins ground) is 12.34 a little bag.
I also pay frieght and a few other ODD items that I really shouldn’t have to pay. Like a Tariff on gasoline that is sent here. Yes, a tariff! I also pay an extra tax on gasoline due to the ethanol. Hawaii pays for it too.
Wait till they try to raise the natural gas again. Alaskans are getting TICKED OFF.. as we are a “Natural Gas State” WTF are we going to pay more for our energy?
upinak on October 6, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Uh huh… yeah dogs.
upinak on October 6, 2008 at 12:07 PM
With this bit of Iranian whining it’s obvious we could use our own vast resources as a political tool, or weapon, against oil producing petrotyrannies if we only had the political will. The EU is busy kissing Arab butt to keep oil and immigrants flowing in one direction. We could greatly help Europe with uits Islamization problem if we would supply them with oil. Right now the Arabs threaten to cut off oil supplies if the EU keeps out Muslims.
DerKrieger on October 6, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Well the EU made their bed, now they can lie in it. They brought it upon themselves.
upinak on October 6, 2008 at 12:09 PM
That’s maybe the best analogy I’ve heard on the domestic drilling issue, nice one!
hippie_chucker on October 6, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Hold on just pea pickin minute, how is oil dropping “unsuitable” for consumers? That is how the FREE MARKET WORKS Iranian Dude. Competition.
Dr Evil on October 6, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Wait, I thought $100/bbl oil was supposed to be a sign that there just simply wasn’t any more to be had, and the energy apocalypse was right around the corner.
Farmer_Joe on October 6, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Remember, Crisis=opportunity. Let’s take the bastards out with the stroke of a pen. “All of the above” your time has come. If we are resolute, we can reassert our global superiority and forever wean ourselves from the foreign energy teat.
redshirt on October 6, 2008 at 12:12 PM
McCain should start taking credit for the drop in prices. The “drill baby drill” and the fear that we will start producing has lowered the price.
Time for him to step up and start taking credit.
right2bright on October 6, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Iran: These low prices are a distraction.
Kafir on October 6, 2008 at 12:15 PM
They were a lot less cocky back then, and they would be a lot less cocky again, were the price of oil to return to around 20 bucks a barrel (which is obviously what you meant).
One way to achieve that is to radically reduce our reliance on foreign oil. The US now buys about 50% of its consumption abroad. Drilling more at home could lop off as much as 5-7% of that, and sooner or later the pressure to drill more will actually make that happen. The rest of it will have to come from just not using as much oil.
If you, too, would like to see Iraq and Russia in a less comfortable economic position, there are a couple of things you can do. Some of these may involve economic sacrifice or an inconvenience, but perhaps we can take some of that for the country:
- Keep your tire pressure at the optimum, keep your air filters clean, your engine in tune. Combine trips. Turn your engine off when you are idling for more than a minute or two. Consider walking, rather than driving short distances.
- When you buy your next car, consider a smaller and/or more fuel efficient one.
- Can you take public transportation to work? Car pool? Telecommute? At least part of the time?
- Write to your local leaders and demand more public transportation options if they are feasible for your area.
- Write to your state and federal representatives and demand more train service options. Europeans and the Japanese have cheap, fast and efficient train service everywhere. Why can’t we have more of that in heavily populated areas where it would make financial sense. If LA and San Francisco were in Germany there would be hourly trains that take you from one city to another in three hours for $40. Seen anything like that here?
If we spent one percent of the $810 billion bailout on non-oil transportation options we could make a serious dent in the price of oil and make the Ahmedinejads and Putins of the world squirm.
factoid on October 6, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Yes but we would have to deal with the dangerous consequences of an Islamic Europe armed with nukes. The EU is where an Obama socialist admin would take us.
DerKrieger on October 6, 2008 at 12:18 PM
“It makes it somewhat less cost-efficient for the US to start massive new exploration and production efforts…”
As much as I oppose government subsidies, I would be happy to let the government subsidize this activity. Even if you then just cap off the wells, we’d be ready the next time OPEC gets greedy.
Kafir on October 6, 2008 at 12:19 PM
if we could get the Liberals and their eco-Marxists puppet masters the Hell out of the way of our energy companies we could provide 100% of our own oil and even become net exporters. We have centuries worth of oil in all its forms.
DerKrieger on October 6, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Venezuela will be crushed if crude trades down towards $50-60 a barrel.
Mexico will also have some major problems, declining production, that dramatically higher prices were hiding.
But every dollar lower helps consumers to offset some very real economic contractions.
patrick neid on October 6, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Right now I am giggling at you… please don’t give me the conservative astro-turfing-enviromental-wacked job.
If YOU want to buy a prius, go for it. I am going to keep my SUV… thanks!
upinak on October 6, 2008 at 12:21 PM
The gas station by my house (St. Paul suburbs) is at $3.02. It’s getting better quickly here in MN, despite the fact the legislature has raised the gas tax twice this year.
Mr. D on October 6, 2008 at 12:24 PM
I just bought an ‘08 Dodge Nitro with a V6 engine. It replaced the ‘05 Saturn with a V6 engine that I totaled a week and a half ago.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 6, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Read a great article last week in Forbes about how Mexico could enrich itself again if they opened up the oil industry to the private sector. Would create a lot of jobs and prosperity and keep the Mexicans in Mexico. Would probably lure many of the skilled ones back from the US as well. A McCain admin needs to press the Mexicans on this. It should be a precondition to any amnesty he attempts.
DerKrieger on October 6, 2008 at 12:25 PM
I like my fords. But I hope you are ok.. and you like your new SUV!
upinak on October 6, 2008 at 12:26 PM
factoid…I’m one of those who believes I shouldn’t have to give up any of the comforts I take for granted, as citizens of the Alpha male country/economy of the world.
I am waiting for free market solutions to give me a car I can fit in, that has good acceleration, and better fuel economy.
Not a tiny Euro car, that has no pickup, and one I can’t fit all my kids in…
We created the largest economy in the world, by striving to move upward to better creature comforts. We sacrificed those comforts for a cause like WW2…that’s why I won’t be taking the bus to work just because. Americans hate public transportation….they want cheaper fuel so they can continue to be free to go wherever they want, not where the government decides to lay track.
hippie_chucker on October 6, 2008 at 12:27 PM
A battery powered car in every garage and a nuclear power plant in every county.
MB4 on October 6, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Was Iran even a (small) country back then?
….excuse me while I try to impersonate Barack Obama…..
Mcguyver on October 6, 2008 at 12:27 PM
very true, but do you really think that the Citizens would go for it? BHO would only have to be in one term, and that one term can mess up everything … possibly forever.
I wish people would wake up.
upinak on October 6, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Ed, While it is nice to hear certain parties squeal over the dive in oil prices I have a hard time celebrating this. Iran and Russia are not strong economies at all… even with high prices the Russian economy and nation are a mess. Iran also has huge economic problems and those were evident even when prices were high.
Falling oil prices are the direct result of a global industrial/economic downturn and sadly, we are at the center of that action. Hopefully, the fall in oil prices will not take the pressure off the need to move away from our current dependence on crude oil (foreign or domestic).
lexhamfox on October 6, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Unforeseen silver linings of the Stock Market Meltdown, presenting themselves everywhere. Oh right, back at ya Great Britain.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-06/bastard-americans/
Dr Evil on October 6, 2008 at 12:31 PM
I love how Obama keeps claiming it’ll take 10 years to get off oil. I would point out the things in the debate hall that were derived from oil, like the plastic in the mikes, Obama’s suit, the carpet in front of them, etc…and then explain to the boy child that ‘getting off oil’ is going mean the reinvention of thousands of products we take for granted, like tires for example…and then make the case for more domestic drilling, emphasizing the national debt relief we’ll get from tax revenues, I read it’s about 6 trillion, IIRC…
hippie_chucker on October 6, 2008 at 12:34 PM
People are by nature fickle, and it is easy to persuade them of something, but difficult to keep them persuaded.
- Niccolo Machiavelli
MB4 on October 6, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Nice article!
Chucker, don’t forget plastic. That will be a HUGE problem!
upinak on October 6, 2008 at 12:36 PM
That’s great, dude. Ahmedinajad needs more people like you to keep up his cashflow. Those centrifuges are pretty expensive…
factoid on October 6, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Go away.
Mr_Magoo on October 6, 2008 at 12:37 PM
As anyone knows when they get a promotion at work and their income rises, expenses will always rise to meet or exceed income unless they have the will to save that extra income for a rainy day. Then when they get laid off and have to take another job at a lower income, those expenses don’t automatically to down. Something has to go.
Iran was spending every penny at $147 a barrel and now that their income has gone down, some expenses will have to be cut.
gstrickler on October 6, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Lehman Brothers CEO Dick Fuld testifying now…
TheBigOldDog on October 6, 2008 at 12:40 PM
I know. I bet that was news to the auto industry.
The man is a prolific timetabler, regardless of reality.
Out of Iraq in 16 months
Off oil in 10 years
What’s next o great one?
Mr_Magoo on October 6, 2008 at 12:41 PM
“I feel horrible about what happened.”
Yea, Dick. We all do.
Mr_Magoo on October 6, 2008 at 12:43 PM
What I really love is the Petrobras stock (of which Soros purchased $811 million a month or so ago) is dropping like a stone….
CC
CapedConservative on October 6, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Also (sorry if anybody else has mentioned this today) Russia has shut down it’s stock market trading twice today, due to it’s index declining by 15%.
The silver lining of the global markets tanking, is that Russia and Iran will not be able to fund their collusion against the free world, as easily, without risking a social upheaval.
There’s always a silver lining in difficult times… the challenge is both seeing it and following it’s conclusion.
Mcguyver on October 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Just fixing a little typo…
factoid on October 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Fixed that for you.
Mcguyver on October 6, 2008 at 12:49 PM
I think this is the nut of the Glenn Beck argument that they will have to do something dramatic around $70-$80 price. Iran launching missles at ships in the gulf or who knows what Russia would do… they have ships heading for our back yard… they have the Georgian situation. I suspect if oil drops quickly and far, we just may see some insane action by one or more of these countries (Iran, Rus, Ven).
CC
CapedConservative on October 6, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Other things the Iranians find “unsuitable”:
Women wearing make-up.
Women showing their hair.
Women having custody of their children after a divorce.
Israel.
Jews.
Christians.
Homosexuals.
Seems to me, if the Iranians find it “unsuitable” it can’t be a bad thing.
Disturb the Universe on October 6, 2008 at 12:54 PM
60, 70, 80 ,is pretty darn high
EricPWJohnson on October 6, 2008 at 1:02 PM
This one is a real conflict for me. I love the lower gas prices, but as an IT consultant currently assigned to a large oil and gas company, the low prices mean lower stock prices which potentially put my job at risk.
The client’s stock price is down $20 from last week, not good. My consulting company can always reassign me elsewhere, but other clients are probably doing some belt tightening too.
And CO has the stupid Amendment 58 which will negate a severance tax deal created decades ago to relieve double taxation on oil and gas companies and keep some revenues locally to pay for the impacts of drilling. It’s winning at the moment thanks to morons like Gov Ritter who want to soak “Big Oil” and their “obscene” profits. Maybe Ritter was asleep back in the early 80s when the bottom dropped out of the oil and gas business here in CO. I remember and it wasn’t pretty.
Common Sense on October 6, 2008 at 1:07 PM
In other words…… normal free market fluctuations….
Except of course what’s not normal free market stuff…. like government intervention.
Still fluctuations as usual, and, a government bailout will never cure that in the end result.
Mcguyver on October 6, 2008 at 1:13 PM
oh noes… they totally pwned us… all their base are belong to them…
Kaptain Amerika on October 6, 2008 at 1:23 PM
This is probably also true for any oil-state that has gone socialist (Iraq may just see less surplus). It could topple some of the governments that use socialist spending to buy support. If they are stupid/desperate, they may try to increase production to offset the loss in revenue. Not only will this likely give them safety and wear-and-tear problems, it also inverts the supply curve (which is always a possibility when there is a trust or monopoly involved).
Granted, prices could go right back up, but, if not, then some very bad people could be in very big trouble.
…
It may well be that the world is overdue for a contraction to burn off the dead wood. The problem will be if socialists use it to come to power and drive us into Great Depression II.
Count to 10 on October 6, 2008 at 1:35 PM
Russia, Iran, Venuezuela need the price of oil to back up fast…
-watch for Russia to threaten to invade a former USSR block country;
-or Iran to shoot off a couple of missiles and threaten Israel;
-or Chavez to call the U.S. lots of names and go on a visit to Fidel.
albill on October 6, 2008 at 1:38 PM
hey reject, does it bother you that I LIKE oil and gas? Or is it the damn tree you are hugging so hard trying to block out the “BAD PEOPLE”. I also live in Alaska, I don’t get any of my gasoline from the middle east… so you shouldn’t assume!
FYI everything you are using is made of oil, it doesn’t matter where it is from since no one outsources the information on what products made of oil are from. Don’t believe me? Show me what isn’t on this earth right now that isn’t made out of oil and natural gas or byproducts of it and then show me a label where they get the oil to make these items! Bet you won’t find one.
Just a little fact there little factiod, you may want to check your FACTS since I have busted you out on other occations as well. Wiki is NOT your friend! And you spewing environmental propaganda via “save the oil” BS is seriously getting on my nerves and it seems everyone elses.
Get a clue and come up with something original we haven’t heard or better yet, keep hugging that tree!
upinak on October 6, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Working in the oil industry for years, I have seen oil drop every time, just when US producers start getting going. Then the bottom falls out and oil workers get laid off and rigs moth balled.
We need some goals for domestic production regardless of the market price. Just like Japan protects it’s rice market.
A country that can feed it’s self is doomed.
There is a definite connection between energy supplies and food production.
TheSitRep on October 6, 2008 at 1:49 PM
I was in southern NJ last week where it was going for $3.11. We are around $3.40 in north Taxes because of Ike, but someone told me they $3.12. Gasoline futures are telling me that we could see another $.50 drop.
Harpoon on October 6, 2008 at 2:02 PM
“I want prices to er, ah, go up… just not so er, ah, uh, fast.”
His Excellency
whitetop on October 6, 2008 at 2:05 PM
How do you like it. I’ve been looking at Jeep’s and Nitro’s.
Harpoon on October 6, 2008 at 2:10 PM
It’s closer to 11.
Harpoon on October 6, 2008 at 2:14 PM
We’ve got to keep conserving to force the prices down. Can you imagine what Iran is losing per day with the price of oil down $57 per barrel?
For them, it’s like buying a house at the top of the market and then the bottom falls out.
Couldn’t happen to a better country.
Let’s help them get to the bottom quicker.
originalpechanga on October 6, 2008 at 2:33 PM
“That’s great, dude. Ahmedinajad needs more people like you to keep up his cashflow. Those centrifuges are pretty expensive…”
Ahmedinajad? His best friends are the absolutely worthless Democrat Party along with the Marxist environmental groups.
Without them, oil would be $20.00 a barrel and that’s if we were all riding around in Hummers.
NoDonkey on October 6, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Chavez is the next one that’s gonna be screaming. He’s got a BIG bill coming from the Russians for all that military hardware and he’d hope to pay for it with oil money.
GarandFan on October 6, 2008 at 3:23 PM
Let’s listen for the sound of a camel’s back snapping, somewhere around 60 a barrel. When we hear it, then it’s time to take part in a good old fashioned Middle East wedding tradition…Roast camel.
Failing that, I’ll settle for a country full of ticked off Iranians using their president as a cuspidor.
52Ranger on October 6, 2008 at 3:35 PM
I like the Nitro. Mine even has 4WD.
Next step: Vulcan Cannon mounted on the roof
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 6, 2008 at 3:40 PM
Dude, great moonbat channeling!
Have you ever tried to transport a 4′x8′ sheet of plywood from Home Depot in a Prius? NO! And smart people won’t even try… they know that different types of vehicles satisfy different needs.
And out where I live, most of your yuppy ideas would get laughed at! I think that you’re forgetting that a lot of your ideas require a high-density population to be feasible.
dominigan on October 6, 2008 at 3:48 PM
“Have you ever tried to transport a 4′x8′ sheet of plywood from Home Depot in a Prius?”
Have you ever tried to put one baby and two adults in a Prius?
I’m 6′3″ and 220 and there’s not a sedan under $30,000 in this country that will hold me and a back seat child carrier.
And that’s before I load up the stoller, etc.
Anyone who thinks that we can all drive around in environmentally friendly go-carts, has no idea what it is they’re talking about.
Unless they’re going to force us to go back to the days when babies rode in cars in their mother’s arms, that is.
NoDonkey on October 6, 2008 at 3:53 PM
You are about the same size as my BF. I drive a 2000 Ford Exploder, 4.0 V-6 with 4×4 and electric everything that fits me just fine. He was NOT comfortable driving my truck and I have to adjust a bunch of things due to his height.
You aren’t joking about taller people getting those small ass vehicles. It is death behind a wheel for those who are 6′0 or above.
upinak on October 6, 2008 at 4:45 PM
I always thought an enclosed bicycle would solve a lot of problems. Plus I’d be buffed and energized!!
http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/09/worlds-fastest.html#more
CSK on October 6, 2008 at 8:52 PM