AP: Palin’s a racist for bringing up Ayers, or something; Update: McCain camp responds
posted at 2:35 pm on October 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
One of the clearest examples you’ll ever see of why The One seldom dirties his hands by playing the race card. Not only will his political surrogates do it for him, his media surrogates happily will, too. There were stories out yesterday about how McCain’s planning to go after him on Ayers over the next month and how Team Barry’s planning a little “preemptive” action. Here’s part of the preemption, courtesy of the AP: Mention Obama’s connection to a white domestic terrorist and you’re a racist.
“Our opponent … is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he’s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country,” Palin told a group of donors in Englewood, Colo. A deliberate attempt to smear Obama, McCain’s ticket-mate echoed the line at three separate events Saturday.
“This is not a man who sees America like you and I see America,” she said. “We see America as a force of good in this world. We see an America of exceptionalism.”…
Palin’s words avoid repulsing voters with overt racism. But is there another subtext for creating the false image of a black presidential nominee “palling around” with terrorists while assuring a predominantly white audience that he doesn’t see their America?
In a post-Sept. 11 America, terrorists are envisioned as dark-skinned radical Muslims, not the homegrown anarchists of Ayers’ day 40 years ago. With Obama a relative unknown when he began his campaign, the Internet hummed with false e-mails about ties to radical Islam of a foreign-born candidate.
Whether intended or not by the McCain campaign, portraying Obama as “not like us” is another potential appeal to racism. It suggests that the Hawaiian-born Christian is, at heart, un-American.
Most troubling, however, is how allowing racism to creep into the discussion serves McCain’s purpose so well. As the fallout from Wright’s sermons showed earlier this year, forcing Obama to abandon issues to talk about race leads to unresolved arguments about America’s promise to treat all people equally.
Biden couldn’t do any better in his VP attack-dog role, and now he doesn’t have to. The left’s spin on this is that the two never really “palled around,” which may or may not be true (Obama supporter Richard Daley famously calls them “friends”) but in either case is beside the point. The question isn’t whether they’re “pals,” it’s whether Obama had any objection to working with Ayers until he started running for president and was pressed on the subject. He attended a meet-and-greet at Ayers’s home as a neophyte pol to help launch his career; he served, apparently without a problem, alongside him on nonprofits. Not once, to my knowledge, has he claimed that he didn’t know Ayers’s past during that time. According to Andrew Sullivan, Palin’s refusal to produce medical evidence that Trig emerged from her birth canal and not Bristol’s is relevant as a measure of transparency and accountability. Presumably, then, Obama’s sustained comfort around a degenerate whose chief regret from his mad bomber days is that he didn’t do “more” is relevant as a measure of character, particularly since Ayers wasn’t the first radical with whom The One’s associated. Or have the Obama rules now been updated to absolve him from character questions that any other politician would be asked? Hillary didn’t think so. But she’s a racist too, I guess.
Two other points. One, note the casual, blink-and-you’ll-miss-it suggestion that it doesn’t matter if the campaign’s intent is racist or not. I’ve been warning you about that since the left went nuts over the Britney ad. In a sane world, whether or not there’s racist intent behind this would be the whole thrust of the inquiry; as it is, it’s an afterthought. And if you accept the AP’s premise that the rules for Obama should be different, then they’re right — it is an afterthought. Challenge The One’s personal judgments and you’re presumed guilty, conclusively. Two, I’m not sure how to take the fact that the AP seems more concerned with Obama being falsely linked to “dark-skinned radical Muslims” who set bombs than accurately linked to a light-skinned radical leftist who set bombs. If it turned out McCain had served on a nonprofit board with someone from the Manson family, rest assured that the media’s main vein of concern wouldn’t be how Team Barry might use that information to falsely imply that Maverick’s connected to other killers. I’ve made this point before, too: Under most circumstances the left is quick to argue against distinguishing between domestic and foreign terrorists, but suddenly the AP finds those distinctions very important indeed. Is the tool who wrote this so underwhelmed by what Ayers did that he can’t conceive of how it might worry voters except in terms of making them think Obama’s a Muslim?
Lots, lots more from Goldstein. Exit question: Why bother with the Ayers stuff anyway? Isn’t there a better use of McCain’s and Palin’s time at this point?
Update: Palin’s not backing down, and neither is Team Maverick:
“The last four weeks of this election will be about whether the American people are willing to turn our economy and national security over to Barack Obama, a man with little record, questionable judgment, and ties to radical figures like unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers. Americans need to ask themselves if they’ve ever befriended an unrepentant terrorist, or had a convicted felon help them buy their house — because those aren’t smears, those are true facts about Barack Obama.” —Tucker Bounds, spokesman McCain-Palin 2008
Update: E&P makes a good point, inadvertently, in trying to absolve Obama: If The One is guilty of looking the other way at Ayers’s terrorist past, so is pretty much every other Democrat in Chicago. This isn’t an “Obama problem,” in other words, as much as it is a problem with his side not fretting overly much about youthful ’60s indiscretions like killing cops with pipe bombs in the name of progress.










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There is only one racist in this campaign.
There is only one friend of terrorists, felons, race-hustlers and sleazy politicians in this campaign.
There is only one person who ignores the fundamental rights guaranteed by the Constitution when it applies to anyone opposing him.
There is only one wet-behind-the-ears, no-accomplishments rookie in this campaign.
There is only one candidate who flouts election laws and pockets illegal donations.
There is only one candidate who espouses Marxism.
And his name, according to Teddy Kennedy, is Osama Obama.
Any one of these traits should be enough to force him out of the race. In fact they would be if liberal race-guilt wasn’t in play.
MrScribbler on October 5, 2008 at 4:28 PM
Doesn’t Obambi still qualify as a JUNIOR Senator ??
(welcome to correction)
But, hey, maybe it’s RACIST to start addressing him that way in front of ‘unfiltered’ media…such as debates ?
“Jr. Senator Obama” every single dam* time !!
Arggh.
pambi on October 5, 2008 at 4:28 PM
If telling the truth about Obama’s associations with known domestic terrorist and using bad judgment with foreign terrorist make me a racist,
then color me racist.
Kini on October 5, 2008 at 4:29 PM
Daniel and his ilk should be stripped, dipped in milk, an dropped into a playpen filled with puppies who have been rolling around in poison ivy all afternoon.
sulla on October 5, 2008 at 4:29 PM
McCain can do more than one thing at a time. And as I have said, he should have Sarah hammer Oslime-a on Rezko, Ayers, Afghanistan, etc., while McCain can speak to his economic plan etc.
Guess what? Rove said the same thing this AM to Chris Wallace. Sarah should spend most of her time on Oslime-a’s negatives and less so on McCain’s positives and McCain should spend most of his time on his positives and less so on Oslime-a’s negatives.
csdeven on October 5, 2008 at 4:29 PM
That’s racist!
That’s racist!
That’s racist!
That’s racist!
That’s racist!
That’s racist!
That’s racist!
JellyToast on October 5, 2008 at 4:30 PM
And then some.
wise_man on October 5, 2008 at 4:30 PM
No. I wasn’t even aware of such an event. Tell me all about it sometime later. BTW, has your husband stopped beating you?
MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 4:30 PM
I was JUST about to say that, confirming you !!
pambi on October 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM
csdven:
Yes, Sarah is the pit bull I think.
Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Sulla, East Coast GN greetings to you my friend.
hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM
I have been trying to help friends and family bypass the MSM…everytime I see a link here I copy it and paste it and email it to them…or I copy a post like AZCoyote’s and spread it around. Some people might get mad especially if they are Democrats but how can they if you are sure to tell them you are only trying to help them get the truth? I also help them by bookmarking conservative sites on their computers so they can find them again…At first I was afraid to get this involved but this election is too important and the MSM is trying to perpetrate a huge evil fraud on America… most reasonable people who get the truth make honest decisions…I know I’m not the only one doing this…we should all be though
CCRWM on October 5, 2008 at 4:32 PM
After the election, we’re going to have to get back at the leftist, Obama-luvin’ media for their behavior in openly supporting him and their refusal to investigate Obama’s background.
We’re going to have to show them that “tingles up their legs” for Obama has a price, and that throwing away all objectivity in their efforts to elect Obama has chickens looking for a place to roost.
Frankly, “declining profits” aren’t enough as punishment. It’s going to require cancellation of government contracts with GE, the parent of NBC, revocation of broadcast licenses for Disney and Viacom, indictment of all of Sulzberger’s NY Times empire’s editorial and reporting staff for violating the Espionage Act and overt treason.
It’s going to take expulsion from the White House press corps of certain network employees (and one very old, very bitter has-been hag). It’s going to take revocation of their DOD and White House press passes, their access to the Pentagon, and permanent exclusion of network reporters and news crews from areas of military operations, such as Iraq and Afghanistan.
It’s going to take an IRS/FBI investigation into the activities of certain “non-profit” and 527 organizations to uncover how and why the media chooses to accept the word of Obama surrogates accusing Palin of all sorts of terrible behavior, and spending hundreds of manpower hours and thousands of dollars looking for dirt on Palin while ignoring Obama’s terrorist, racist, and anti-Semetic connections.
I believe in a free press, one that is independent, objective and thorough. What we have now, unfortunately, is one that is the exclusive propaganda arm of one political party, the Democrats.
The media is not some deus ex-machina or a monolithic whole. It consists of individuals, some of whom have decided to turn their industry into agitprop for socialism and anti-American activism, and to hell with objectivity and balance.
It is these individuals that must be purged from the media. And if “criticism” from our side and declining revenues do not do it, then it becomse the jobs of prosecutors, FCC, and the SEC to put the media, their corporate parents, and the “embeded” left in news organizations on notice that their services are no longer required.
The survival of the Republic requires a free, independent, and unbiased press.
georgej on October 5, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Its never too late to play the race card now is it?
I never ruled it out.
johnnyU on October 5, 2008 at 4:32 PM
I really need to start reading these threads before opening my yap.
I agree. These racist charges are going to backfire on Oslime-a.
csdeven on October 5, 2008 at 4:33 PM
MB4:
Yes, as a matter of fact he did, right after I pick up a 10lb frying pan and went upside his head..like you said, I am unhinged.
Yep, Ron Paul hearts the neo nazis.
Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM
You know, this New Yorker cartoon may be closer to the truth than anyone cares to admit.
I’m giving leftist credit where credit is due.
Kini on October 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM
New media attack platform:
It is 2008, Barack is 47. When the “radical 60′s” that produced William Ayers, happened, Barack was only 1 year old. John McCain hates babies.
BKennedy on October 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Well, it’s time to put it back on the table by a 527.
Heh heh heh….
csdeven on October 5, 2008 at 4:35 PM
I saw something at Instapundit about the RNC filing a complaint about Obama’s fund raising. I hope they push that. It sets a bad precedent to raise all that money from dubious sources like that.
Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:36 PM
Stick your head in the sand, just don’t blame me come November 4.
MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM
True!
We need an organized movement. Real grass roots and a concerted effort.
hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM
It was Harold Macmillan who said “Events, my boy, events” is response to the question “What scares you the most?”
aengus on October 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM
Spirit:
I am not sure McCain took all reference to Wright off the table and besides Obama has said it is a legitimate issue.
Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:38 PM
aengus:
Thank you. I thought it was in reference to something else, but it still holds true.
Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:39 PM
we had the better ground game for a long time, but Bush in part and the “fundicon hating GOP society” took it away…
sven10077 on October 5, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Me too…what takes the cake is that 95% of blacks are voting against McCain because he is white..one thing I’m pretty sure of is that race relations are going to take a major nose dive thanks to the candidate who made race the issue and we all know it wasn’t McCain… I hope Obama doesn’t pull the same stunt his cousin Odinga (who he campaigned for see link posted in this thread earlier) pulled in Kenya and incite his supporters to go on a ramage after he loses…
CCRWM on October 5, 2008 at 4:40 PM
MB4:
I don’t think anyone is here is saying McCain can not lose or even that they are sure he will win. Maybe you need to give it a rest and stop assuming that you know what people are thinking.
It is just the same old crap with you over and over and over.
Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:40 PM
I believe that Obama has many more dark secrets in his history and will do anything to keep the public deaf and blind to the truth. His supporters know that he is just an instrument to help them achieve their goals of developing a subjugated socialist state where the freedoms we know of now will become a part of the past. Our nation will fall to its enemies as they are are fully aware of his weaknesses already. Iran will attack Israel and the Jewish nation will be no more. We will not retaliate but claim that it is the UN’s place to handle such matters. We must defeat Obama.
mindhacker on October 5, 2008 at 4:41 PM
If you said one fusking thing that sounded constructive, your point would be taken. The way you bash every piece of damn news that comes out of teh campaign, I couldn’t blame anyone “but” people like you. But I’ll give you one more small piece of my precious time. What is your “serious” answer? What does McCain and the campaign have to do in your eyes to win?
Waiting!!!
hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 4:41 PM
But one thing that we do know for sure, is that McCain has a better chance of winning than anyone MB4 would support, unless of course he is actually a closet liberal Democrat masquerading as a bitter true conservative.
Whatever.
Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:42 PM
Not merely dubious, but FOREIGN sources !!
This IS a FEDERAL CRIME, folks !
Spread the word !!! Get it out somehow, somewhere.
Let’s swiftboat him on that one, if nothing else seems to stick… FACTS served up in STILETTOS !! GO FOR IT !
pambi on October 5, 2008 at 4:43 PM
According to this story he did, at least for his campaign.
Weight of Glory on October 5, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Excuse me, but Palin DID NOT SAY AYERS!!! She used a PLURAL, that does not mean DORN too. If you’d let the potential that the McCain campaign is aware of something enter your assumptions you would stop concentrating on THAT association with Obama and wonder what OTHER associations he has that are CURRENTLY terrorist(s)….. and a terrorist does not have to be Islamic and a terrorist does not have to be religious. Stop jumping to conclusions gang, you have NO IDEA what in the pipeline.
ilitigant on October 5, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Need an ad,that sends any Liberal
straight over the bend,about Obama!
Something that will take the water
out of Hopeys reactor and expose the
rods that will make Changey go into
a meltdown!!!
canopfor on October 5, 2008 at 4:45 PM
And what have you done to help Republicans or conservatives “Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way”? Nothing at all that I can detect.
At least I have posted some utubes for McCain’s campaign to use, Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis if they had any sense. It’s probably too late now though.
MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 4:45 PM
West Coast GN howdies to you, hawkdriver! Back from the sandbox?
sulla on October 5, 2008 at 4:45 PM
The situation really is depressingly bad for us as a society. Even the democrats shouldn’t accept such a blatant loss of objectivity. And yet they scream that conservative radio programs dominate the AM radio, while ignoring the overwhelming bias in supposed objective journalism. It’s getting to the point where it really is dangerous to have so many in the media and academia, (as well as others) such as the people who will write the history and textbooks who are filled with left of center people who think that they are not biased.
wise_man on October 5, 2008 at 4:45 PM
LOL, I find it hilarious that MB4 of all people is calling someone unhinged.
But then again, that is a liberal trademark, when they can’t dispute the facts they simply say they’re “unhinged” or “a ‘Boosh’ mouthpiece” or something else stupid.
MobileVideoEngineer on October 5, 2008 at 4:45 PM
That has long been my suspicion.
Disturb the Universe on October 5, 2008 at 4:46 PM
…. if only the McCain people would listen to MB4 …. you are such a joke. You wanted McCain to lose for months. I feel sorry for anyone who tries to engage you in a serious conversation who doesn’t know your history.
wise_man on October 5, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Roger that.
wise_man on October 5, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Disturb:
Yep.
Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:49 PM
I can’t agree with you here.
Fact is that there is no legal requirement for an unbiased press and no way to balance such a requirement with a free press.
I think the best approach is to do as William Buckley, Roger Ailes and Conrad Black did: start your own magazines/TV stations/newspapers. All you need is quality and conservative opinions to be a success.
Any legislative approach would simply be turned on conservatives.
aengus on October 5, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Amen! I’m on board! How do we start?
CCRWM on October 5, 2008 at 4:49 PM
I am my puppy posting friend. How have you been?
It’s kind of hard while you’re deployed, but now that I’m back, I’m doing everything I can.
hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 4:49 PM
1) Get up from PC.
2) Go into bathroom (Open the door first. If your husband is in the bathroom already, be sure to have frying pan at ready)
3) Look in mirror.
MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 4:52 PM
wise_man:
I was talking to someone the other day about the biased media and I think it is something a lot of people are aware of.
I think that back in the 60′s and 70′s young and idealistic people were drawn to journalism instead of politics. They saw themselves as crusaders taking on the rich and powerful and corrupt. I think that there have always been people who were sensationalist and dishonest in media along with good people too, but for the last 30 years or so it has become a profession dominated by people who would otherwise be liberal poli sci professors with tenure.
Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:53 PM
I reported your comment. I encourage others do as well.
And I hope you get banned.
IrishEi on October 5, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Please don’t use the “R” word or THAT troll will show up…
CC
CapedConservative on October 5, 2008 at 4:53 PM
MB4:
You are such a pompous ass.
Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:54 PM
I’ve been busy but good. Glad you’re back home safe! And still fighting the good fight. this election is a biggie.
sulla on October 5, 2008 at 4:55 PM
CC:
Speaking of unhinged where has that sly little Canadian been?
Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:56 PM
They should send them to a specific website and then they can search from there. Oslime-a has already manipulated Google results that put his website with the lies on the top of the page.
csdeven on October 5, 2008 at 4:56 PM
You must have missed my 2 earlier utubes (I just reposted one of them) on this very thread. You seem to miss a lot in addition to doing McCain no good whatsoever.
MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 4:57 PM
miserable troll.
wise_man on October 5, 2008 at 4:57 PM
Even if Ayers wasn’t a terrorist, he’s still an outright Marxist who hates America. Isn’t that enough to avoid associating with him? Isn’t that enough to condemn him?
NNtrancer on October 5, 2008 at 4:58 PM
It is essential that we educate people about how the Democrats caused the current banking crisis, but that education is going to take time, much more time than the four weeks remaining before the election. Furthermore, that education is going to have come from people who do from time to time vote Democratic and thus have some credability to our “progressive” peers. It’s simply a waste of Palin’s to talk much about the banking crisis. John McCain has more creditability and should some about it.
Still, the big gains now will come from scare tactics about Ayers, Rev Wright, Samantha Power, and so forth. The Democrats often denounce Republican scare tactics, but we need to reply that these scare tactics are about real issues, like how do we respond to a nuclear Iran, which is real issue. And if the Democrats wish to bring up ancient history, we should say that the Willie Horton ads against Dukakis were appropriate: a refusal to deal harshly with violent criminals only leads to more violence.
Of course, when McCain’s campaign commits the eye-rolling stupidity of accusing Obama of supporting sex education to kindergarteners, they sabatoge the success of the legitimate scare tactics.
thuja on October 5, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Being the weekend and, he, being a moonbat, I’m quite sure he’s hangin’ out with his friends smokin’ a bowl. I’m sure he’ll be back during the week when he’s back at his government computer provided by his government job… ;)
CC
CapedConservative on October 5, 2008 at 4:59 PM
CC:
Yeah, the Canadian taxpayer’s dollar at work.
Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 5:02 PM
No, not if you are a Marxist yourself.
Disturb the Universe on October 5, 2008 at 5:02 PM
What I am is clearly discernable to anyone with non dull perceptions, particularly to anyone who seems to follow me like a shadow, hanging on my every word.
BTW, as to the “bitter”, you need to go look in the mirror on that item too. Please see above instructions.
MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 5:02 PM
DANG RIGHT! That will be the other shoe to drop.
csdeven on October 5, 2008 at 5:04 PM
MB4:
I am not bitter, I am just bored with your tedious and redundant diatribes.
So much so that we are done. Go into the bathroom, look in the mirror and tell it to the sad little man you see looking back at you.
Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 5:04 PM
Yeah Sulla, it wasn’t our best time out of the blocks. You know we had two battalions in Iraq when the rest of us were in Afghanistan. In between the two and over 15 months of both deployments we lost 17 total, 14 to combat. Worst for any unit I was ever in. If we lose this election, I’m going to feel like we lost them for nothing. They were pawns for the media and the Democratic party. ANd the head guy will be the bastard that said no to funding, yes to arbitary pull-out time tables and said “We’ve got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we’re not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there.”
We have to beat them.
hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Once more-America has had the knack for having the right person for the right time, in any given situation, Even a cursory look through our history will bear this out.
The stumbles ( Carter) simply point out the correct path to take. Given that, I see no reason this election should defy past history.
As for “what can I do?”–work at your local level. Send the E-mails, do the phone bank calls, etc. ONE person is unlikely to have much effect doing this, MANY people CAN change events by concerted effort.
What all of us MUST do is NEVER quit or slack off in our effort.
irongrampa on October 5, 2008 at 5:05 PM
The AP is nothing more than a left wing advocacy group and is simply spreading more of its perverted garbage. Nothing it publishes has even the slightest credibility including this absurd charge.
rplat on October 5, 2008 at 5:06 PM
I have merely pointed out what should already have been obvious.
You need to follow the instructions above for looking in the mirror also. You can probably leave out the frying pan part though, hopefully anyway.
MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Even the democrats shouldn’t accept such a blatant loss of objectivity. And yet they scream that conservative radio programs dominate the AM radio, while ignoring the overwhelming bias in supposed objective journalism.
Let’s see. We’ve got lots of programs on AM radio. But wait, on the local Hannity station, we’ve got lefties doing shows at other times of day. And there is a lefty “progressive” station on air in LA too, with a brain-damaged Stephanie Miller, and I think a decrepit Micheal Jackson.
But still.
We have AM, however they have FM…
Pacifica Radio
multiple NPR stations
every college radio station
many talk format shows like Leykis and formerly, Howard Stern now on satellite
Plus, the moonbats own:
NBC
ABC
CBS
PBS TV
MSNBC
CNN
parts of CNBC
Sundance
HBO
Leno, Letterman, Maher, Jon Stewart, Colbert, Conan, Oprah, etc.
so many Hollywood stars it’s impossible to count
In academia they are nearly unanimously left-wing.
They have in the news business:
NYT
LAT
Boston Globe
Chicago Sun-Times
Star-Tribune
Atlanta Journal and Constitution
IHT
Time
Newsweek
US News & World Report
Wired
Rolling Stone
even Scientific American
and on…
They also have:
Redacted
In The Valley Of Elah
The Kingdom
W
Syriana
Fahrenheit 911
Loose Change
and on…
We have:
An American Carol
It just makes me wonder what they will do when they really get serious about brainwashing the nation.
George Orwell on October 5, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Hawkdriver, welcome home, brother. You have this vet’s undying gratitude for the effort and sacrifice you’ve made here.
irongrampa on October 5, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Um, guys? Ignore the mosquito. Really, either it is a person with such a miserable existance that its only source of pleasure is the misery it can cause you
OR
it is an Axelrod employee, or Axelrod himself…
ignore it
funky chicken on October 5, 2008 at 5:08 PM
It goes both ways, same time it’s racist to say anything Obama as you guys claim, you’re “In the tank” if you pretend the Ayers “Connection” is anything other than a fabrication based on a few loosely connected encounters over the period of a decade.
Typhonsentra on October 5, 2008 at 5:08 PM
I’m glad to see McCain pushing back on this.
Yes, I’m sure Obama doesn’t like this topic mentioned; nor do his media surrogates. So their quickest method of snuffing it is a round-a-bout effort to eliminate any and all criticism by attempting to gin up a public consensus of racism.
And I can’t think of a finer example of fascism.
But the fact remains that the only way they can win at this is if normal, every-day Americans forego common sense. That, Obama, is a losing bet you’re making.
Please keep up the pressure, McCain-Palin. I for one support your efforts. Enough is enough.
James OK on October 5, 2008 at 5:09 PM
You might want to check out the inpatient facilities at St. Elizabeths.
MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 5:09 PM
Yeah Sulla, it wasn’t our best time out of the blocks. You know we had two battalions in Iraq when the rest of us were in Afghanistan. In between the two and over 15 months of both deployments we lost 17 total, 14 to combat. Worst for any unit I was ever in. If we lose this election, I’m going to feel like we lost them for nothing. They were pawns for the media and the Democratic party. ANd the head guy will be the bastard that said no to funding, yes to arbitary pull-out time tables and said “We’ve got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we’re not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there.”
We have to beat them.
hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 5:05 PM
funky chicken on October 5, 2008 at 5:10 PM
I’m a voter contact caller since I’ve been back from OEF. I don’t know what you do in your spare fucking time from your brigade level staff postion but no one, strong>MB4 is more dedicated or is giving as much as their active-duty spare time allows to get the word out about this election. Do not ever presume to tell me what I do or do not offer in the way of sacfice to my country or my party!
hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 5:11 PM
I take it that you are mad at me again.
MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 5:11 PM
From Michelle Malkin:
McCain is an idiot…thank god I can for vote for the bottom of the ticket.
John Doe on October 5, 2008 at 5:11 PM
I think the former is more likely. Axelrod is more clever than this troll. But ignoring it is sound advice.
Disturb the Universe on October 5, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Saturday, October 04, 2008
How did Ayers Make Obama Chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge?
I can easily understand why some readers may have become confused by the explosion of stories today on the Obama/Ayers relationship.
The partial story told by the New York Times today is collapsing of its own weight but has likely added to the confusion. Since I am one of the “bloggers” referred to without an explanation in the Times’ story I thought I would summarize the top ten highlights of the current state of play. These ten key points confirm what I have argued all along – that Bill Ayers was responsible for the elevation of Obama to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge board.
1) The key question is whether Bill Ayers had a role in the selection of Barack Obama to become Chairman and President of the $160 million Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a multi year school reform effort started in 1995.
2) This is the key question because if it is true that Ayers played a role in Obama’s selection it indicates that Ayers and Obama had a pre-existing relationship.
3) If Ayers and Obama did have a pre-existing relationship it undermines claims by the Obama Campaign that the relationship between Ayers, an authoritarian political figure who once engaged in bombings to implement his politics, was “tenuous” or “casual” and that Ayers was just a neighbor of Obama’s in Hyde Park.
4) I believe that Obama and Ayers shared a similar world view with respect to education issues, at least. For example, during their time together running the Chicago Annenberg Challenge they supported funding for groups like the Small Schools Workshop and Local School Councils. These groups were criticized as engaging in “teacher bashing” by union activists and as a “political threat” to school principals by Arnold Weber, a fellow Annenberg board member.
5) I have presented evidence here at Global Labor that Ayers did in fact play a direct and personal role in Obama’s elevation to the CAC board. This evidence consists of letters exchanged at the time of these events between the national Annenberg Challenge led by Vartan Gregorian, the President of Brown University, and Bill Ayers, on the one hand, and between Gregorian and Adele Simmons, President of the MacArthur Foundation, an advisor to Ayers, on the other.
Those letters state clearly that Ayers was actively engaged in the board selection process in November and December of 1994.
http://www.globallabor.blogspot.com/
Read it all; send it to your friends
funky chicken on October 5, 2008 at 5:14 PM
You will fit in very well in the new Obama order.
MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 5:14 PM
I know you’re right, honest.
It’s just that SOME try to discredit every LEGIT source I send them to… arrgh… so, I insist (and basically test them) that they cover every single reference. (of course I must, too, but no biggie.. our nation is at stake !)
Unlike the Lib camp, who TELLS them what to believe, I FIRST appeal to their ‘intelligence’ opening the door to THEIR believing that they actually CAN discern truth vs lie.
They FINALLY feel validated that way. For some, that’s a VERY new concept !!
It’s working… slowly, but it’s working. :-)
Even when one cannot completely seal the deal,
“Reasonable Doubt” comes into play, and not JUST in the courtroom.. hehe
Sometimes it’s just enough to sway them.
pambi on October 5, 2008 at 5:14 PM
It’s good to see more people not falling for this crap here.
wise_man on October 5, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Okay moonbat, is the Syrian guy (Rezko) “loosely connected” or a “fabrication” or his pastor of 20 years (Wright) “loosely connected” or a “fabrication”? His money from Fannie “loosely connected or a “fabrication” or his VERY CLEAR statement in the Democrat Debate that he would negotiate with Iran, et al WITHOUT PRECONDITION (so much so that nearly EVERY OTHER DEMOCRAT on the stage hooted at him) “loosely connected” or a “fabrication”? The surest way to detect a change of position with Senator Obama is listen for the sentence to begin “As I’ve always said…”
CC
CapedConservative on October 5, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Thanks IG!
hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 5:15 PM
http://theeprovocateur.blogspot.com/2008/10/new-york-times-takes-on-obama-and-ayers.html
Also outstanding
funky chicken on October 5, 2008 at 5:16 PM
You just can’t get enough of me. At least admit it to yourself anyway.
MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Welcome home, hawkdriver !
Mom of Desrt Storm vet, here !
THANKS !
pambi on October 5, 2008 at 5:17 PM
See that? He feeds on this attention.
wise_man on October 5, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Michelle Malkin hates John McCain. Thank God he knows that and won’t bother listening to her advice. She is no different from any of the “concern trolls” here–she would rather beetch at John McCain than go after Obama.
Her behavior does nothing but help elect Obama as my husband’s Commander in Chief.
funky chicken on October 5, 2008 at 5:18 PM
The only think that is making me at all sad right now is that you are so little challenge. Please stop stalking me or try to do better.
MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 5:20 PM
“challenge.” ….. He sees this as one big game. Not to have conversations with people. but to win games with them.
wise_man on October 5, 2008 at 5:22 PM
I agree Hawk. America owes a debt of honor to those who have been answering the call these past seven years (and longer). If we turn our backs on them by picking such an outright adversary to America’s principles to lead us, I will be sick.
That cannot be allowed to happen.
sulla on October 5, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Nothing like taking an ad hominem dump in your host’s house.
BTW, if you are in the military you don’t get to pick your CIC. I never got to.
MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 5:24 PM
These “press” stories drive me crazy. Are they an attempt to cover what the candidates say and say in response, or are they flowing commentary on how readers should interpret what candidates say?
What a joke.
T J Green on October 5, 2008 at 5:24 PM
MB4, I’m sure there’s a place somewhere on the internet with more like-minded bloggers. Unless your intention is to disuade us from voting for McCain, you should go there! Obviously people blog here to feed on the good aspects of the campaign McCain and Palin are running and to keep up on what’s happening in order to help anyway they can. Great if you’re posting stuff on YouTube against the Dems. Seems to me it’s kind of counter-productive to come straight back here and try to depress this crowd then.
You’ve got me confused.
hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Well I must say that I have had challenging days, unfortunately this wasn’t one of them.
MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Funky…I think you’re missing the point. The only one who can beat Obama is McCain. If he can’t go after Obama for FM/FM/Wright/Ayers/CRA for fear of racism, you might as well start practicing saying President Obama.
John Doe on October 5, 2008 at 5:26 PM
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