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AP: Palin’s a racist for bringing up Ayers, or something; Update: McCain camp responds

posted at 2:35 pm on October 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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One of the clearest examples you’ll ever see of why The One seldom dirties his hands by playing the race card. Not only will his political surrogates do it for him, his media surrogates happily will, too. There were stories out yesterday about how McCain’s planning to go after him on Ayers over the next month and how Team Barry’s planning a little “preemptive” action. Here’s part of the preemption, courtesy of the AP: Mention Obama’s connection to a white domestic terrorist and you’re a racist.

“Our opponent … is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he’s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country,” Palin told a group of donors in Englewood, Colo. A deliberate attempt to smear Obama, McCain’s ticket-mate echoed the line at three separate events Saturday.

“This is not a man who sees America like you and I see America,” she said. “We see America as a force of good in this world. We see an America of exceptionalism.”…

Palin’s words avoid repulsing voters with overt racism. But is there another subtext for creating the false image of a black presidential nominee “palling around” with terrorists while assuring a predominantly white audience that he doesn’t see their America?

In a post-Sept. 11 America, terrorists are envisioned as dark-skinned radical Muslims, not the homegrown anarchists of Ayers’ day 40 years ago. With Obama a relative unknown when he began his campaign, the Internet hummed with false e-mails about ties to radical Islam of a foreign-born candidate.

Whether intended or not by the McCain campaign, portraying Obama as “not like us” is another potential appeal to racism. It suggests that the Hawaiian-born Christian is, at heart, un-American.

Most troubling, however, is how allowing racism to creep into the discussion serves McCain’s purpose so well. As the fallout from Wright’s sermons showed earlier this year, forcing Obama to abandon issues to talk about race leads to unresolved arguments about America’s promise to treat all people equally.

Biden couldn’t do any better in his VP attack-dog role, and now he doesn’t have to. The left’s spin on this is that the two never really “palled around,” which may or may not be true (Obama supporter Richard Daley famously calls them “friends”) but in either case is beside the point. The question isn’t whether they’re “pals,” it’s whether Obama had any objection to working with Ayers until he started running for president and was pressed on the subject. He attended a meet-and-greet at Ayers’s home as a neophyte pol to help launch his career; he served, apparently without a problem, alongside him on nonprofits. Not once, to my knowledge, has he claimed that he didn’t know Ayers’s past during that time. According to Andrew Sullivan, Palin’s refusal to produce medical evidence that Trig emerged from her birth canal and not Bristol’s is relevant as a measure of transparency and accountability. Presumably, then, Obama’s sustained comfort around a degenerate whose chief regret from his mad bomber days is that he didn’t do “more” is relevant as a measure of character, particularly since Ayers wasn’t the first radical with whom The One’s associated. Or have the Obama rules now been updated to absolve him from character questions that any other politician would be asked? Hillary didn’t think so. But she’s a racist too, I guess.

Two other points. One, note the casual, blink-and-you’ll-miss-it suggestion that it doesn’t matter if the campaign’s intent is racist or not. I’ve been warning you about that since the left went nuts over the Britney ad. In a sane world, whether or not there’s racist intent behind this would be the whole thrust of the inquiry; as it is, it’s an afterthought. And if you accept the AP’s premise that the rules for Obama should be different, then they’re right — it is an afterthought. Challenge The One’s personal judgments and you’re presumed guilty, conclusively. Two, I’m not sure how to take the fact that the AP seems more concerned with Obama being falsely linked to “dark-skinned radical Muslims” who set bombs than accurately linked to a light-skinned radical leftist who set bombs. If it turned out McCain had served on a nonprofit board with someone from the Manson family, rest assured that the media’s main vein of concern wouldn’t be how Team Barry might use that information to falsely imply that Maverick’s connected to other killers. I’ve made this point before, too: Under most circumstances the left is quick to argue against distinguishing between domestic and foreign terrorists, but suddenly the AP finds those distinctions very important indeed. Is the tool who wrote this so underwhelmed by what Ayers did that he can’t conceive of how it might worry voters except in terms of making them think Obama’s a Muslim?

Lots, lots more from Goldstein. Exit question: Why bother with the Ayers stuff anyway? Isn’t there a better use of McCain’s and Palin’s time at this point?

Update: Palin’s not backing down, and neither is Team Maverick:

“The last four weeks of this election will be about whether the American people are willing to turn our economy and national security over to Barack Obama, a man with little record, questionable judgment, and ties to radical figures like unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers. Americans need to ask themselves if they’ve ever befriended an unrepentant terrorist, or had a convicted felon help them buy their house — because those aren’t smears, those are true facts about Barack Obama.” —Tucker Bounds, spokesman McCain-Palin 2008

Update: E&P makes a good point, inadvertently, in trying to absolve Obama: If The One is guilty of looking the other way at Ayers’s terrorist past, so is pretty much every other Democrat in Chicago. This isn’t an “Obama problem,” in other words, as much as it is a problem with his side not fretting overly much about youthful ’60s indiscretions like killing cops with pipe bombs in the name of progress.


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New ad ?
state the facts.. Palin or Mac
tell the audience to Google them (eg. obama+ayers)
and tell them to read EVERYTHING they find, and trust their gut.
Game over ??
It’s working with some of my lib friends, really .. I’m jus sayin

pambi on October 5, 2008 at 3:33 PM

“If The One is guilty of looking the other way at Ayers’s terrorist past, so is pretty much every other Democrat in Chicago

and their point is?!
:-)

Buckaroo on October 5, 2008 at 3:33 PM

It is more than obvious that the MSM, especially with outfits like the AP and the NYT leading the charge, is going to brand anyone who even so much as has anything to say against B.O. as being a racist.

The problem they have right now is trying to lay that same smear on Sarah Palin. Unlike others who they have done this same tactic to that have either clammed up or run for cover, Sarah is not backing down and is now giving the MSM something they didn’t count on, namely a very effective and vocal offensive.

I say let’s join her. I love a good fight, don’t you?

pilamaye on October 5, 2008 at 3:33 PM

pilamaye on October 5, 2008 at 3:33 PM

I’m in!

hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 3:34 PM

“MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 3:27 PM”

piss.
off.

Buckaroo on October 5, 2008 at 3:31 PM

Get a grip. If you don’t get one by November 4 you will go completely mad.

MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 3:35 PM

GO Sarah. . . . Pound them for the next 30 days

Don’t stop.

Old saying is you can judge a person by who he/she hangs with.

—————————————————
Oh Damn . . . Is that racist.

Texyank on October 5, 2008 at 3:35 PM

I think that it says a lot of McCain that he picked Sarah to begin with and then he deploys her…he doesn’t hide her because she is more popular he smiles to himself and says I made the right choice…

If there ever was a state we should be able to get its Michigan! Why is thast state continuing to be Blue after how the Democrats in charge have killed it? Somebody please explain that to me

CCRWM on October 5, 2008 at 3:36 PM

Stick it to him till he hurts. Obama has shown a propensity for error and anger when things get under his thin skin.

Did I mention he’s black got really BIG EARS?

EMD on October 5, 2008 at 3:26 PM

FIFY lol

IrishEi on October 5, 2008 at 3:36 PM

Buy Danish on October 5, 2008 at 3:25 PM

OMG they actually reproduced. I had hoped their only “child” was that adopted POS.

Damn…I really wish they would take their “lovely” family down to enjoy all that free, first class health care and education that the Castro brothers provide, and leave the rest of us the hell alone.

I’m sure Raul and Fidel would even let Billy bring all of his daddy’s trust fund money with them.

funky chicken on October 5, 2008 at 3:37 PM

Update: E&P makes a good point, inadvertently, in trying to absolve Obama: If The One is guilty of looking the other way at Ayers’s terrorist past, so is pretty much every other Democrat in Chicago. This isn’t an “Obama problem,” in other words, as much as it is a problem with his side not fretting overly much about youthful ’60s indiscretions like killing cops with pipe bombs in the name of progress.

Indeed, I think we need to run against 1) Congress 2) Bush 3) Chicago

What has Obama actually achieved? Get into his record… more American’s have died of murder in Chicago than in Iraq this year…. what was his solutions?… community organizing to ban guns… not community organizing to get people to not want to kill other people…

BTW, there should have been a “break with Bush” plan… there should have been some policy pivots a long time ago…

ninjapirate on October 5, 2008 at 3:37 PM

profitsbeard on October 5, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Obama is 50% white, 44% Arab descent and 6% African descent

red131 on October 5, 2008 at 3:37 PM

“MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 3:35 PM”

my grip’s fine — it’s yer defeatism we could all do without …

Buckaroo on October 5, 2008 at 3:37 PM

If they’re dropped precisely, several 500lb JDAMs will do a lot more damage than a 1000 pounder.

hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 3:28 PM

Well, since “several” generally means more than two, I’ll assume that’s correct. ;-)

flipflop on October 5, 2008 at 3:38 PM

I say let’s join her. I love a good fight, don’t you?

pilamaye on October 5, 2008 at 3:33 PM

I’m in!

hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 3:34 PM

RACISTS! ALL OF YA, dontcha know

El_Terrible on October 5, 2008 at 3:38 PM

Obama waffles and weave when he says that he was only 8 when Ayers was bombing America.

McCain should ask him at the debate:

Didn’t you know enough basic human morality, even at the tender age of 8, to understand that this was WRONG, Senator?”

profitsbeard on October 5, 2008 at 3:38 PM

“CCRWM on October 5, 2008 at 3:36 PM”

i blame union mindhivethink …

/jus’ sayin’ …

Buckaroo on October 5, 2008 at 3:38 PM

profitsbeard on October 5, 2008 at 3:27 PM
Obama is 50% white, 44% Arab descent and 6% African descent

red131 on October 5, 2008 at 3:37 PM

Racist ! ! ! You said African

Texyank on October 5, 2008 at 3:39 PM

But is there another subtext for creating the false image of a black presidential nominee “palling around” with terrorists while assuring a predominantly white audience that he doesn’t see their America?

It’s cute how they phrase the smear as an interrogatory. It’s not an accusation of racism, just an innocent question, right?

As for the substance of the smear, the image of Obama “palling around” with admitted terrorist Ayers is not a “false” one — Obama chose to serve on Ayers’ Annenberg Challenge board for years, just as Obama chose to attend the fundraiser in Ayers’ home (with Ayers’ wife, terrorist and Charles Manson-admirer Bernadine Dohrn) that launched Obama’s Chicago political career.

And as for how Obama sees America differently from the rest of us, I wonder how many white Americans would attend a “Christian” church (as Obama did for 20+ years) that welcomes Muslims as members, or whose members pledge their allegiance to the “motherland” of Africa, or whose mission statement says that the church rejects American “middleclassness” and that if God is not on the side of black Americans, then the church members should kill God?

I also wonder how many white Americans would be moved to tears (of joy and recognition, as Obama described in his book) to hear their “Christian” pastor give a sermon in which he blames all the world’s ills on “white man’s greed”? Or how many would remain a member of a church for two decades, and contribute tens of thousands of dollars to this church, if the pastor was routinely preaching demonstrably false sermons about topics such as how the U.S. government created AIDS and deliberately infected blacks with it in an attempt to exterminate them? Or how many Americans would sit in a church a few days after 9/11 and listen to the same pastor rant about how the U.S. had those terrorist attacks coming to us, and how the pastor believes that God should not bless America, but that God should instead damn America?

The AP thinks most white Americans see their beloved country differently than Obama does? I certainly hope that’s true; otherwise, we’re in even more trouble than I thought.

AZCoyote on October 5, 2008 at 3:39 PM

Wrap Obama in the Fannie Mae Freddie Mac scandals and we win by a landslide. Just bring it up in the debate, Dodd – number one in contributions, OBAMA SECOND WITH YADA YADA DOLLARS. That would be something Obama cant recover from.

Cardiganfox on October 5, 2008 at 3:40 PM

Obama is in bed with Fanny and Freddie

MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 3:38 PM

Yeah, but Barney Frank was literally in bed with Fannie Mae. One of their directors, at least.

flipflop on October 5, 2008 at 3:40 PM

If there ever was a state we should be able to get its Michigan! Why is thast state continuing to be Blue after how the Democrats in charge have killed it? Somebody please explain that to me

CCRWM on October 5, 2008 at 3:36 PM

The only major city that managed to throw off democrat rule after the donks did their best to bring the city down is NYC. Think about it–Detroit, Chicago, San Francisco, LA, Boston, and I’m sure there are others. The democrat leadership has presided over massive destruction, but the voters keep returning them to power.

I can’t explain it, but it’s the pattern.

funky chicken on October 5, 2008 at 3:41 PM

Question.

Are there any more ‘interviews’lined up,
for Governor Sarah Palin, as in,’setting up’
the ‘Cuda, via for a sound bite!!!!

Or,does one trust the Liberals at editing!!!

canopfor on October 5, 2008 at 3:41 PM

Sorry but Sen. Obama’s association with any number of shady characters has everything to do with my distrust in him. As to the playing of the race card, it was done to the tune of $700 billion dollars last week so I think it is safe to say that it is a ploy that has bitten the universal butt of everyone in this nation. How are they liking it now? The “hearings” on the bailout to start soon with their guaranteed CYA overtones would be funny if it had come at a cheaper price.

Cindy Munford on October 5, 2008 at 3:41 PM

Yeah, but Barney Frank was literally in bed with Fannie Mae. One of their directors, at least.

flipflop on October 5, 2008 at 3:40 PM

That’s got to be racist too…. Somehow.

Texyank on October 5, 2008 at 3:42 PM

OT-

I wish OJ would endorse Obama.

profitsbeard on October 5, 2008 at 3:42 PM

Hannity’s special tonight (9pm eastern) is supposed to into detail on all of The One’s radical associations.

This is good, but I’m afraid he’s just preaching to the choir.

IrishEi on October 5, 2008 at 3:43 PM

‘If The One is guilty of looking the other way at Ayers’s terrorist past…’
and in the bigger picture he also wants to look the other way at Ahmadinejad, Castro, Chavez …

splashtc on October 5, 2008 at 3:43 PM

“MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 3:35 PM”

my grip’s fine — it’s yer defeatism we could all do without …

Buckaroo on October 5, 2008 at 3:37 PM

No, I think that your grip is lost. Hanging by a thread at best.

MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 3:44 PM

“profitsbeard on October 5, 2008 at 3:42 PM”

we wish, but oj will disappear until sentencing at the least, and pretty much forevermore after that …

Buckaroo on October 5, 2008 at 3:45 PM

That’s got to be racist too…. Somehow.

Texyank on October 5, 2008 at 3:42 PM

No, but I’m sure it’s homophobic somehow.

flipflop on October 5, 2008 at 3:45 PM

Associate Press now including overt commentary about this in their “reporting” while missing the point as usual.

But while Ayers and Obama are acquainted, the charge that they “pal around” is a stretch of any reading of the public record. And it’s simply wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts. Obama was 8 years old at the time the Weather Underground claimed credit for numerous bombings and was blamed for a pipe bomb that killed a San Francisco policeman.

Memo to the AP: It’s not about them doing the terrorism. We know they did. It’s AyersDorhn no being sorry for it and Obama still palling around with them. Don’t worry. This is going to blow up in your faces.

SouthernGent on October 5, 2008 at 3:45 PM

“MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 3:44 PM”

piss.off.double.

Buckaroo on October 5, 2008 at 3:45 PM

Palin should take this and turn it into another attack on the media. Remember: ridicule is the best weapon.

lodge on October 5, 2008 at 3:47 PM

buckaroo, remember your advice? ignore that mosquito.

funky chicken on October 5, 2008 at 3:48 PM

Is it racist of me to flashback to 1996, when Obama was not 8 years old, but was working with William Ayers at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (donating money to Barry’s former blogger, the Maoist Mike Klonsky, among others) and had been to the home of Ayers and Dohrn to launch his political career?:

With the Democratic Convention returning to Chicago for the first time since the notorious convention in 1968, many have begun to reexamine those contentious times. Elizabeth Brackett, of WTTW-Chicago, looks at the lives of two 1960s radicals who remain unrepentant about their violent past.

BERNARDINE DOHRN: The movement was never not into violence. Violence–the violence was all around us. The violence was being done. The violence was being done by the body bags every day, by a million people in Southeast Asia being killed. The violence was a given. So it’s true that we tried to hurl ourselves into the middle of things. But, again, I just want to emphasize that compared to what?

BILL AYERS: We reached a point where we were operating outside of the law, and that is a lot because we were being harassed by the law, and the law was acting outside the law. So in a sense, you know, everyone had lost their bearings, and what we did was certainly serious and had consequences for us personally, but I don’t think it was, it was anything that was uncalled for. I mean, I think it was called for.

I guess the Obamas missed that episode.

Buy Danish on October 5, 2008 at 3:48 PM

MB4:

McManure? Oh that is clever. really clever. and needless to say anyone who does not giggle and snort at your little word play is wearing rose colored glasses?

you betcha.

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 3:50 PM

Hannity’s special tonight (9pm eastern) is supposed to into detail on all of The One’s radical associations.

This is good, but I’m afraid he’s just preaching to the choir.

IrishEi on October 5, 2008 at 3:43 PM

The MSM will prove his point though by not even contesting the basic premise. True nuff tho, the message needs to be repeated in many venues.

If they’re dropped precisely, several 500lb JDAMs will do a lot more damage than a 1000 pounder.

hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 3:28 PM
Well, since “several” generally means more than two, I’ll assume that’s correct. ;-)

flipflop on October 5, 2008 at 3:38 PM

Don’t stop me, I’m on a roll.

hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 3:50 PM

“MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 3:44 PM”

piss.off.double.

Buckaroo on October 5, 2008 at 3:45 PM

Articulate little devil aren’t you, little Buckaroo.

MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 3:51 PM

Apparently Palin is making progress. This may start the shift,
if it hasn’t begun already. Palin’s got point….she will be
starting the attack.. While McCain gets ready for the next debate. The crowds for Palin are just amazing…

dec5 on October 5, 2008 at 3:52 PM

Michigan…..

CCRWM
Funky Chicken on Oct 5,2008 at 3:41PM.

Funky Chicken: Across St.Marys river is Soo,Michigan!

They have a early morning talk show that
comes on before Glen Beck,there both Repub
licans and daily bash the Liberals!!

They both where puzzled at McCain’s pullout
on Thurs.,Friday I think,from their State!

It would be great if Team/Mccain could go
to Lake Superior Univeristy campus,or a
quick gig on the talk radio show,AM 1400!!:)

canopfor on October 5, 2008 at 3:52 PM

My question to the AP et al

Why is it covertly racist to question Mr. Obama on the basis of his past actions and associations but not racist to support him primarily because he’s about half black?

Paul Murphy on October 5, 2008 at 3:52 PM

The McCain campaign response is great.

For all of your Obama-Ayers information requirements:

http://www.globallabor.blogspot.com/

it’s perfect to send to moderate/liberal friends too, because the author is a liberal Ralph Nader supporter and law prof.

Prof Diamond was writing about Obama/Ayers/Daley way before Stanley Kurtz was even planning to look into the CAC

funky chicken on October 5, 2008 at 3:52 PM

I’m giving McCain through the debate on Tuesday night. If he doesn’t come out swinging with all of Obama’s disgraceful and dangerous associations, then he’s done—and he deserves to lose.

I’ll still vote for him of course, but a fat lot of good that’s gonna do with the Jersey electors.

IrishEi on October 5, 2008 at 3:53 PM

Exit question: Why bother with the Ayers stuff anyway? Isn’t there a better use of McCain’s and Palin’s time at this point?

What’s the matter, AP? Scared it might work for him?

Truthfully, while the financial issue can be used, the media has already spun that against him. They have to balance how they cover that.

But Hussein’s ties to his fellow anti-American scum? That stuff can play with loyal Americans. You have to give them a reason to vote against Hussein’s socialism.

“Yeah, the economy’s bad, but that there Obomber feller’s in cahoots with the commies and those bums that burn the flag. Ain’t no way I’s votin’ fur him! And you’s better not, either. Got it?”

(NOTE: I’m from a rural area and talk like that myself. Yes, I the knee-jerk am from the sticks. If you don’t like it, up yours.)

Whatever it takes. And when what it takes is true and accurate, all the better.

Tommygun on October 5, 2008 at 3:53 PM

MB4:

McManure? Oh that is clever. really clever. and needless to say anyone who does not giggle and snort at your little word play is wearing rose colored glasses?

you betcha.

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 3:50 PM

Cheer up Terrye, the worst is likely yet to come. In another month you will likely be looking back at these as the good old McDays.

MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 3:54 PM

I am a woman, have been all my life. And as a woman I hereby announce that any criticism of Sarah Palin is sexist. That is right, you are knuckle dragging brute or a self loathing female if you say anything even an itsy bit critical of our Sarah.

Just imagine how that would go over.

I think the McCain people should bring up all these folks. And Obama himself said that Wright is a legitimate campaign issue so bring him up too.

And Fannie and Freddie. And Biden’s flights from reality.

And let it sink in for the American people, if Obama is elected, any criticism will be considered racist. It might even be a hate crime.

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 3:55 PM

And let it sink in for the American people, if Obama is elected, any criticism will be considered racist. It might even be a hate crime.

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 3:55 PM

Yep. And the Truth Squads and new National Security Force will enforce the new laws.

IrishEi on October 5, 2008 at 3:57 PM

i blame union mindhivethink …

/jus’ sayin’ …

Buckaroo on October 5, 2008 at 3:38 PM

Do the unemployed have a union? Do they think of that?

CCRWM on October 5, 2008 at 3:58 PM

MB4:

The worst might be coming. But your word play still makes you look like a moron. Whatever happens in this election, McCain is still a better man than you will ever be.

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 3:58 PM

Isn’t it interesting how the optimists and the pessimists drive each other nuts? And neither can help it.

Cindy Munford on October 5, 2008 at 4:01 PM

If it turned out McCain had served on a nonprofit board with someone from the Manson family, rest assured that the media’s main vein of concern wouldn’t be how Team Barry might use that information to falsely imply that Maverick’s connected to other killers

.

More important, McCain would be residing in AZ in disgrace rather than running as a candidate for president.

The importance of Ayers is the domestic terrorism, the lack of repentence, and his and Obama’s squandering of a grant exceeding $100 million. The money was to be used to improve Chicago schools, yet they accomplished nothing.

Obama is going to change DC? C’mon.

BuckeyeSam on October 5, 2008 at 4:01 PM

IrishEi:

Maybe we all get those cute little Ipods so that we can have Obama in our heads all day. I hear that is actually happening.

creepy.

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:01 PM

I’m giving McCain through the debate on Tuesday night. If he doesn’t come out swinging with all of Obama’s disgraceful and dangerous associations, then he’s done—and he deserves to lose.

I’ll still vote for him of course, but a fat lot of good that’s gonna do with the Jersey electors.

IrishEi on October 5, 2008 at 3:53 PM

I agree. The meme that they’re afraid he’ll come off as angry is just stupid. America is angry about the big “I Can’t Pay My Bills” bill and I bet they’d love to see someone who was the party 4 years ago that ran up the red flags to start with and who two years ago personnally called for reform.

hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 4:02 PM

My brother just sent me this….it’s a great explanation of Ayers and Obama.

nyrofan on October 5, 2008 at 4:02 PM

Let me get this straight, some people would rather talk about sub prime mortgages than Obama hanging out with a terrorist? Umm……which do you think will resonate with the public more?

Capitalist Infidel on October 5, 2008 at 4:03 PM

Obama is half white? Did he appear with George Jefferson, seems I remember something like that on “The Jeffersons”.

Wade on October 5, 2008 at 4:04 PM

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:01 PM

He already has a Dish Network channel. That’s the only channel we’ll have after the Obama version of the Fairness Doctrine becomes law. 1/21/09.

IrishEi on October 5, 2008 at 4:04 PM

Patriotism an accusation of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

–Samuel Johnson, updated by Tzetzes

Tzetzes on October 5, 2008 at 4:06 PM

buckaroo, remember your advice? ignore that mosquito.

funky chicken on October 5, 2008 at 3:48 PM

Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite ‘em,
And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum.
And the great fleas themselves, in turn, have greater fleas to go on, While these again have greater still, and greater still, and so on.
- Augustus De Morgan

MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 4:06 PM

IrishEi:

What is the topic of the next debate?

I can remember McCain getting a little aggressive during primaries and people saying he was a cranky old man. Well, if I was him I would be getting a little cranky right about now.

It does seem to me that there has been a different tone in his campaign in the last few days.

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:06 PM

If there is anything that America is more tired of than Washington politics is being told you are a racist for any criticism of any person of color.

Hammer away Sarahcuda!!!

csdeven on October 5, 2008 at 4:06 PM

What’s the matter, AP? Scared it might work for him?

Truthfully, while the financial issue can be used, the media has already spun that against him. They have to balance how they cover that.

But Hussein’s ties to his fellow anti-American scum? That stuff can play with loyal Americans. You have to give them a reason to vote against Hussein’s socialism.

Yep. And the financial stuff is complicated, and the story goes back many years. And the McCain campaign has 2 EXCELLENT ads already. Remember Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson?

The ads that were so effective that that bimbo over at Time Magazine dropped the race card and got mocked by Anamarie Cox?

McCain pulled the ads when he suspended his campaign. That doesn’t mean they aren’t going to be played ever again.

It’s bizarre that so many people like allahpundit seem to have the attention span and memory of a goldfish.

funky chicken on October 5, 2008 at 4:06 PM

And let it sink in for the American people, if Obama is elected, any criticism will be considered racist. It might even be a hate crime.

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 3:55 PM

you’re right, unfortunately. The Usual Suspects have gained control of the language–of how English is used and phrased–and NOT used–in public life, to an extent that would impress George Orwell.

With that said, good campaigns win elections while bad campaigns lose them. Team McCain has been good at times and bad at times–and has a month to Get Good and Stay Good

Otherwise………..

Janos Hunyadi on October 5, 2008 at 4:07 PM

Irish:

That reminds me of Saddam. There were two channels on Iraqi TV and they were both all about him.

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:07 PM

canopfor on October 5, 2008 at 3:10 PM

Comment on the size of his ears or stop him from eating his waffle.

aengus on October 5, 2008 at 4:08 PM

When I was in third grade they said I had cooties. Now they say I’m a racist. At least there’s some science behind cooties.

snaggletoothie on October 5, 2008 at 4:09 PM

MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 4:06 PM

So what’s the plan MB4, who ya voting for?

hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 4:09 PM

Apparently Sen. Obama is going to come out with some Keating references. I wonder if he will mention that John McCain was the only one who testified against Mr. Keating in the civil lawsuit? My guess would be no.

Cindy Munford on October 5, 2008 at 4:10 PM

csdeven on October 5, 2008 at 4:06 PM

Absolutely, CS. The more the Press has to run around and call EVERYONE racist, in order to defend Obama, the more people will get tired of it. At least I hope some “independents” will.

Weight of Glory on October 5, 2008 at 4:11 PM

What is the topic of the next debate?

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:06 PM

I don’t think there is a topic for this one…just the Townhall format. First one was supposed to be Foreign Policy (which got horned in by economic issues) and the last one is Domestic Policy (more economic issues, healthcare, etc.)

John Bolton mentioned last week that he hoped they would make up the time lost on Foreign Policy but I doubt it.

IrishEi on October 5, 2008 at 4:11 PM

Hannity’s special tonight (9pm eastern) is supposed to into detail on all of The One’s radical associations.

This is good, but I’m afraid he’s just preaching to the choir.

IrishEi on October 5, 2008 at 3:43 PM

Been hunting it down, but can’t find it… Fox’s Dem/Lib viewership is supposedly more than the alphabet/CNN numbers, combined !
It’s gotta reach SUMMA ‘dem !! (pray)

pambi on October 5, 2008 at 4:11 PM

Janos Hunyadi:

Who was it who said that an election is decided by Events, my boy, events?

Something could happen tomorrow that would change everything. I think McCain is most definitely and underdog, all the Republicans are right now. People are in that change kind of mood. But you never know what will happen. I think Pelosi has turned out to be a gift for Republicans in fact. So who knows? Maybe all this talk about Barney Frank and his boyfriend and Fannie Mae might kind of even things out a bit.

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:12 PM

I agree. The meme that they’re afraid he’ll come off as angry is just stupid. America is angry about the big “I Can’t Pay My Bills” bill and I bet they’d love to see someone who was the party 4 years ago that ran up the red flags to start with and who two years ago personnally called for reform.

hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 4:02 PM

No, it’s not stupid. It’s a remnant of the 2000 campaign when Karl Rove created the “McCain doesn’t have presidential temperament” meme, and deployed it quite successfully.

Just this calendar year you had Trent Lott’s old best friend Thad Cochran repeating that McCain has anger issues and he’s “afraid” of having McCain as POTUS. Thad Cochran is a huge GOP porkmeister, like Lott and Ted Stevens. That’s why he’s afraid of McCain in the Oval Office…but because the groundwork was laid by Rove and Bush in 2000, the “McCain is too angry to be president” story is something he has to be very careful about.

funky chicken on October 5, 2008 at 4:12 PM

Apparently Sen. Obama is going to come out with some Keating references. I wonder if he will mention that John McCain was the only one who testified against Mr. Keating in the civil lawsuit? My guess would be no.

Cindy Munford on October 5, 2008 at 4:10 PM

Let them bring it. The one word that would come out of the investigation in reference to McCain would be…exonerated.

hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 4:12 PM

I’m really getting sick of this “racism!!!” crap. I’m not doubting that their are some racists who are voting against Obama simply because of his color or for him because of his color. But the Dems need to stop this bull. They’ve gone wayyy to far.

malan89 on October 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM

Someone else’s words but I like them

“If John McCain had a long association with a guy who’d bombed abortion clinics, I don’t think people would say, ‘That’s ancient history,’ ” Chapman said.

jukin on October 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM

MB4:

The worst might be coming. But your word play still makes you look like a moron. Whatever happens in this election, McCain is still a better man than you will ever be.

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 3:58 PM

I only look like a moron to someone with dull perceptions. It would be difficult for anyone to run a worse campaign than McCain has. As for you, you are becoming unhinged.

MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 4:13 PM

IrishEi:

McCain is good in that format.

But Obama is getting better at these things and considering the fact that he come out there and recite the Communist Manifesto in pig latin and the whole press corps would just slobber all over him, I really do not know what he has to do to lose a debate.

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:15 PM

If there ever was a state we should be able to get its Michigan! Why is thast state continuing to be Blue after how the Democrats in charge have killed it? Somebody please explain that to me

CCRWM on October 5, 2008 at 3:36 PM

Rather simple. Wayne County will not change from blue no matter how many times their mayor is removed from office. Penny Jenny keeps the sheep fed.

It would be great if Team/Mccain could go
to Lake Superior Univeristy campus,or a
quick gig on the talk radio show,AM 1400!!:)

canopfor on October 5, 2008 at 3:52 PM

Difficult to buck and cancel out that liberal mindset at NMU, et. al., but the western UP is slowly and covertly going red. I was told there are significantly more *closet republicans* now than in the past (apparently a lot more than even I was aware of).

The unionized-miners-mindset is receeding into the fog of a distant past in the extreme western counties. A lot of *greenies* and *NIMBYs* bit the dust in the Dem primaries this time around. Seeing what the Dems have done to Lansing, Detroit and “north” Dearborn is giving locals a lot to think about and lament during the long winters.

Yoop on October 5, 2008 at 4:15 PM

If moron independent voters aren’t turned off by Obama because of Ayers by now, they never will.

Speedwagon82 on October 5, 2008 at 4:16 PM

MB4:

yeah right. A man who smirks and types McManure is calling me unhinged.

Speaking of unhinged did you go to the Bircher get together and salute Ron Paul when he gave his speech?

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:18 PM

My brother just sent me this….it’s a great explanation of Ayers and Obama.

nyrofan on October 5, 2008 at 4:02 PM

http://www.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/jacques-grande_290×317.jpg

Am I the only one who sees the resemblance between a young Ayers and Justin Timberlake in Love Guru?

Disturb the Universe on October 5, 2008 at 4:18 PM

Isn’t it interesting how the optimists and the pessimists drive each other nuts? And neither can help it.

Cindy Munford on October 5, 2008 at 4:01 PM

The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds, the pessimist fears this is true.

MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 4:18 PM

yeah that Ron Paul, really knew how to run a campaign.

And so did the rest of the people McCain beat.

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:19 PM

If The One is guilty of looking the other way at Ayers’s terrorist past, so is pretty much every other Democrat in Chicago.

I wonder if there is anyone who didn’t just accept Ayers. Oprah left Rev. Wright’s church, which made Obama staying look worse in comparison. If someone could find a single Chicago Democrat who…ah, never mind.

MamaAJ on October 5, 2008 at 4:20 PM

Speedwagon:

You would be surprised how many people do not even know who Ayers is.

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Hammer away Sarahcuda!!!

csdeven on October 5, 2008 at 4:06 PM

YES! Drop the hammer and often. They have yelled racist so often it is becoming meaningless.

Wade on October 5, 2008 at 4:21 PM

From Byron York at the Corner on NRO about Obama’s closest association–I’d always wondered about Michelle’s years as an associate at a large Chicago law firm:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=M2M0MzBhNjRmY2Q4MDM5NjU1ZjE1OTJjYmM2NmY3MmM=

And some brief advice from Yuval Levin, another contributor there–bottom line: McCain should use an all of the above approach.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Nzg3Nzc4NzYxY2JkY2ZlNjJkMDgyNDIxY2MzNDE0MDU=

BuckeyeSam on October 5, 2008 at 4:22 PM

Let me get this straight, some people would rather talk about sub prime mortgages than Obama hanging out with a terrorist? Umm……which do you think will resonate with the public more?

Capitalist Infidel on October 5, 2008 at 4:03 PM

Free Stuff
Vote for me and I’ll give you more stuff than the other guy who will take stuff away from you. (Dress it up a bit with big words and you have a winning campaign.)

rockhauler on October 5, 2008 at 4:22 PM

MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 4:06 PM

So what’s the plan MB4, who ya voting for?

hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 4:09 PM

Barry Goldwater.

MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Actually I am a racist because I am voting for McCain and Palin-two white people like me. And 95% of the blacks in this country are voting for Obama based on the color of his skin. So what? We are all racist alike.

carbon_footprint on October 5, 2008 at 4:23 PM

MB4, if I had made up my mind that I couldn’t vote for McCains ticket because he was running a bad campaign or he wasn’t conservative enough or not progressive enough or whatever, I’d just sit it out and let the chips fall where they may. Someone who is forever active in bad-mouthing every step of the ticket and accusing the faithful of wearing rose-colored glasses really just sounds like a hack from the other side trying to suppress the vote. Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.

hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Americans need to ask themselves if they’ve ever befriended an unrepentant terrorist, or had a convicted felon help them buy their house — because those aren’t smears, those are true facts about Barack Obama.” —Tucker Bounds, spokesman McCain-Palin 2008

Amen. But can’t McCain get someone with more juice to issue these statements. Bounds is terrible. They should have that guy handling the pizza orders–and nothing else.

BuckeyeSam on October 5, 2008 at 4:26 PM

I hope to God that McCain isn’t going to run away from criticizing the Fannie/Freddie Dem debacle or any of Barry’s other shady pals because he fears having the race card thrown at him. That helped sink Hillary. Don’t run scared: Give them hell, Mav and ‘Cuda. You cannot let them get away with it. If you don’t, forget the White House.

Philly on October 5, 2008 at 4:26 PM

MB4 on October 5, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Thanks MB4, you just helped me keep your every word in the proper pretext.

Invisible.

hawkdriver on October 5, 2008 at 4:26 PM

Students are taught to “think” in the fashion that any criticism of anything about a black person is racist.

Now, is that a simple coincidence when we know the idiot Ayers is the exact type of teacher that fills the rolls of our fine institutions?

benrand on October 5, 2008 at 4:27 PM

Barry Goldwater lost didn’t he? Oh, but that was not his fault. No sirreee, could not have been the campaign he ran. It could not have been his stand on the issues. It had to be sympathy over JFK’s death.

I wonder how some people would feel to hear him referred to as Goldmanure?

Terrye on October 5, 2008 at 4:27 PM

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