Nevada jury less impressed with washed-up celebrity

posted at 9:08 am on October 4, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

I lived in California during the first OJ Simpson criminal trial when he beat the rap for two brutal murders in Brentwood.  Thirteen years ago yesterday, I was as stunned as the rest of the state when a Los Angeles jury managed to ignore a “mountain of evidence” to acquit Simpson.  Thirteen years later, OJ discovered that Nevada juries are much less impressed with celebrity:

O.J. Simpson, who went from American sports idol to celebrity-in-exile after he was acquitted of murder in 1995, was found guilty Friday of robbing two sports-memorabilia dealers at gunpoint in a Las Vegas hotel room.

The 61-year-old former football star could spend the rest of his life in prison. Sentencing was set for Dec. 5.

A weary and somber Simpson released a heavy sigh as the charges were read by the clerk in Clark County District Court. He was immediately taken into custody.

This trial was also televised, but created much less of a media feeding frenzy than in 1995. The verdict came in late last night, and Fox televised it live (via Ms. Underestimated):


O.J. GUILTY ON ALL 12 COUNTS – video powered by Metacafe

The defense team tried playing the victim again, but unlike in California, no one on the Nevada jury could quite agree with the notion that six armed men breaking into a hotel room to take material by force werevictims.  Yale Galanter, Simpson’s longtime attorney, tried blaming everyone else involved in this case as being motivated by material gain from exploiting what even Galanter called Simpson’s wrong-headed attempt to reclaim what was supposedly his own memorabilia.  The jury, as you can see above, remained distinctly unimpressed, and convicted Simpson and C.J. Stewart on every count.

Galanter and Stewart’s attorney will appeal, the latter apparently on the grounds that Simpson should have received a separate trial.  That seems like weak tea; co-defendants participating in the same crime can be tried together.  They may raise questions about the veracity of the witnesses on appeal, especially since Galanter was at least correct about almost everyone profiting off of the media exposure, some within minutes of the arrest.  An appeals court will likely reject that as a credibility issue best judged by the jury itself.  Very likely, Simpson will get a 15-to-life sentence that will keep him behind bars for at least a decade — and there’s a small chance that some of these may get stacked consecutively, which would be a life sentence.

Celebrities do get convicted of crimes after all.  Just not in California.

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OT: NYT covers Ayers…. nothing to see here…move along

McLovin on October 4, 2008 at 9:13 AM

Small solace to the Brown and Goldman families. At least the “real killer” will now be behind bars rather than pretending to look for him in the weeds on the edge of the fairway.

Blackacre on October 4, 2008 at 9:13 AM

Celebrities do get convicted of crimes after all. Just not in California.

Sad but true it seems.

Nevertheless, Karma has finally caught up with Simpson. Lets just hope Justice does the same while he’s in prison.

GT on October 4, 2008 at 9:14 AM

But the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called “somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.”

Obama campaign aides said the Ayers relationship had been greatly exaggerated by opponents to smear the candidate.

The Times said it. The Idjits believe it. Case closed. Move along, folks. Nothing to see here.

ManlyRash on October 4, 2008 at 9:16 AM

Thirteen years later, OJ discovered that Nevada juries are much less impressed with celebrity:

The first jury wasn’t about celebrity, it was about skin color.

repvoter on October 4, 2008 at 9:17 AM

I hope that the supposed property of OJ that he tried to take at gunpoint, now makes its way back to its rightful owner, the Estate of Ron Goldman which as a thirty three million dollar judgment against the wrongfull killer, OJ Simpson. OJ should also be hit with a contempt order for hiding his assets with the memorabilia dealer again in contravention of the judgment. What makes it sweeter is that the judgment occurred thirteen years to the day that OJ was wrongfully acquitted of the double murder charges (in LA). Justice delayed hopefully will not be justice denied, and OJ will be spending the rest of his life in prison.

eaglewingz08 on October 4, 2008 at 9:19 AM

I’d pay a lot of money for a picture of Obama “community organizing” on the day of first OJ Verdict?

That would be interesting, eh??

Shivas Irons on October 4, 2008 at 9:20 AM

I don’t think the L.A. jury found him not guilty based on his celebrity.

amerpundit on October 4, 2008 at 9:20 AM

The Jurors in the murder case were dead wrong and must live with that fact on a daily basis. I don’t feel one bit sorry for them, they get what they earned.

As my mother told me on many occasions while growing up; life is the ultimate judge, and those who think they got away with a crime eventually face up to the real judge.

Now OJ can spend the remainder of his days in prison, surrounded by criminals. The acting days over, he is now surrounded by individuals he can relate with. I can’t help but to wonder; how long will it take before OJ confesses his murders to a fellow inmate, and the inmate then sells the story to the highest bidder.

Keemo on October 4, 2008 at 9:21 AM

Party tonight at Fuhrman’s. BYOB

repvoter on October 4, 2008 at 9:23 AM

Thug.

Terrye on October 4, 2008 at 9:24 AM

If the evidence sticks, you must convict.

jgapinoy on October 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM

Freaky, 13 years to the day. Fred Goldman must feel there is at least a bit of justice in the world today.

Mr. Joe on October 4, 2008 at 9:27 AM

After 13 years of acting as if he was above the law both criminal and civil, this must be quite the wake-up call.

Now that he’ll have some time to to reflect, perhaps he may remember something new about what happened to Nicole and Ron.

G-man on October 4, 2008 at 9:28 AM

But, but, I’m OJ! I can do whatever I want and get away with it! Didn’t you hear me? I’m OJ!!

Not any more. Justice is served.

rmgraha on October 4, 2008 at 9:32 AM

Prison?
But how will he continue his search for the real killer?

jgapinoy on October 4, 2008 at 9:34 AM

Justice is NOT served. Slice and dice him and leave the remains in front of his house… then justice would be served.

CC

CapedConservative on October 4, 2008 at 9:35 AM

I’m glad that murderer is finally going to jail.

SoulGlo on October 4, 2008 at 9:38 AM

The despicable L.A. jury verdict has been nullified.

Jury nullification.

jeff_from_mpls on October 4, 2008 at 9:40 AM

Prison?
But how will he continue his search for the real killer?

It’s all a setup. OJ believes he’s tracked the real killer to a Nevada prison, where the real killer is serving time for an unrelated crime. He just needs to get inside to continue his investigation.

saint kansas on October 4, 2008 at 9:41 AM

OJ’s chickens…have come home….to ROOOOST!

lodge on October 4, 2008 at 9:41 AM

God’s justice has come to pass…

The Juice may have been able to use race to his advantage all those years ago; but even the best team of lawyers can’t keep him from getting what he deserves…

Let’s all pray that he sees the light in prison, repents and gets his life right; a good place to start would be by finally confessing the truth about that fateful episode so many years ago…

I know he had it comin’, but it’s never easy to watch that long slide into infamy, as a person’s life goes awry…

RocketmanBob on October 4, 2008 at 9:41 AM

First, YIPPEE!! O.J. goin’ down!

But second, consider this: http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=265052#

There very likely will be repercussions from this, with the proverbial race card being played like Three-card Monty on a street corner. Be ready for any number of stupid accusations, conspiracy theories, and general stupidities to come from, uh, the other side on all this. Something about the “timing” and “October surprises” comes to mind. The impact could be both electoral and more, uh, “kinetic.”

Advice to readers: Buy ammo.

Tommygun on October 4, 2008 at 9:45 AM

“Prisoners of love
Blue skies above”

Coronagold on October 4, 2008 at 9:47 AM

Perhaps President Barack Obama will give him an executive pardon.

ManlyRash on October 4, 2008 at 9:48 AM

Perhaps President Barack Obama will give him an executive pardon.

ManlyRash on October 4, 2008 at 9:48 AM

And then appoint him head of the Civil Rights Commission.

Tommygun on October 4, 2008 at 9:49 AM

This crime should not have happened. He should have been gone thirteen years ago.

OldEnglish on October 4, 2008 at 9:50 AM

I don’t think the L.A. jury found him not guilty based on his celebrity.

amerpundit on October 4, 2008

I always believed it was a racist jury spitting in the eye of the “white” justice system and helping a brother “get over” on whitey.
Prove me wrong.

SKYFOX on October 4, 2008 at 9:50 AM

Where are all the videos of the Howard University students and others of their ilk rejoicing the verdict.

Oh, he was found guilty.

Scroom.

there it is on October 4, 2008 at 9:52 AM

I don’t think the L.A. jury found him not guilty based on his celebrity.

amerpundit on October 4, 2008

I always believed it was a racist jury spitting in the eye of the “white” justice system and helping a brother “get over” on whitey.
Prove me wrong.

SKYFOX on October 4, 2008 at 9:50 AM

Both of you are correct.

Tommygun on October 4, 2008 at 9:54 AM

saint kansas on October 4, 2008 at 9:41 AM

Yes! I should have thought of that!

jgapinoy on October 4, 2008 at 9:55 AM

I foresee a new book on the shelves: “If I Robbed You At Gunpoint”.

shaken on October 4, 2008 at 9:55 AM

1st point. Would anyone reading this spend more than one second with Ayers? That goes to Oslime-a’s basic core principles. He is a slime bag.

He met with Ayers. He will meet, face to face without pre-conditions, with every leader of terrorist states in the world.

2nd point. OJ who? And why would anyone spend one second caring what happens to him?

csdeven on October 4, 2008 at 9:58 AM

OJ – Trading in the old pigskin for some sheepskin. Here’s a term OJ will probably become familiar with while in the big house, BOHICA.

SPIFF1669 on October 4, 2008 at 10:00 AM

Pound of flesh served piping hot!

Can OJ disappear down the same memory hole that swallowed up Laurence Powell and Stacey Koon? Id appreciate it.

Theworldisnotenough on October 4, 2008 at 10:00 AM

Given that McCain won’t blame the Dems for their hand in the credit mess when McCain called for more regulation in 2005 or so, is there any way that McCain could pin the blame for the credit mess on OJ? He no longer seems to have any fans. Those that still stand by him are Californians, and McCain isn’t competitive there anyway.

I’m without hope here in Ohio. This morning, I had a conversation with a casual follower in the middle 20% who in a normal election would inevitably vote Republican. But I walked away from him suspecting that he’ll pull the lever for Obama.

McCain doesn’t need to avoid the economy, he needs to address it and blame Barney Frank and other Congressional Dems who blocked regulation of Fannie and Freddie.

BuckeyeSam on October 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM

i live down the street from Nicole Brown’s grave. I’ll take some roses down later today and add them to the others that will surely be there. Hope somebody does the same for Ron Goldman.

We’ll also have a glass of champagne to celebrate that justice may be slow, but it is sure.

InTheBellyoftheBeast on October 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM

2nd point. OJ who? And why would anyone spend one second caring what happens to him?

csdeven on October 4, 2008

Because gross injustice stabs at the heart and the pain lingers for years.

SKYFOX on October 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM

Don’t get too excited. While he is definitely not a victim, if this was anyone else, no way would the judge impose a life sentence, and I’m not sure she will do so here.

You have an elderly man with no prior criminal record who used force to recover property that he has an arguable claim to. And while laws may use language such as mandatory and shall, there are usually other statutes and case law that provide exceptions. So, unless someone here has experience in Nevada sentencing law, I wouldn’t bet money that he will receive a life sentence.

Blake on October 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM

This crime should not have happened. He should have been gone thirteen years ago. – OldEnglish on October 4, 2008 at 9:50 AM

Why didn’t I think of that? Good analysis there, Captain Obvious.

ManlyRash on October 4, 2008 at 10:03 AM

We’ll also have a glass of champagne to celebrate that justice may be slow, but it is sure.

InTheBellyoftheBeast on October 4, 20

Agreed, but sometimes not in this life.

SKYFOX on October 4, 2008 at 10:03 AM

And then appoint him head of the Civil Rights Commission.

Tommygun on October 4, 2008 at 9:49 AM

Obama is giving that job to the Florida Congressman Atlee something who said the bad things about Palin.

BuckeyeSam on October 4, 2008 at 10:03 AM

Because gross injustice stabs at the heart and the pain lingers for years. – SKYFOX on October 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM

A lifetime, for many.

ManlyRash on October 4, 2008 at 10:03 AM

Agreed, but sometimes not in this life.

SKYFOX on October 4, 2008 at 10:03 AM

I know, that is part of being a bitter clinger – I have faith that “it is sure” – guessing you do too :-)

InTheBellyoftheBeast on October 4, 2008 at 10:05 AM

Follow up question Ed. What happens to the kids?

The slime killed their mother and he will go to jail soon. Are the grandparents to challenge for custody now like they did last time?

Dr. Dog on October 4, 2008 at 10:05 AM

Don’t get too excited. While he is definitely not a victim, if this was anyone else, no way would the judge impose a life sentence, and I’m not sure she will do so here.

You have an elderly man with no prior criminal record who used force to recover property that he has an arguable claim to. And while laws may use language such as mandatory and shall, there are usually other statutes and case law that provide exceptions. So, unless someone here has experience in Nevada sentencing law, I wouldn’t bet money that he will receive a life sentence.

Blake on October 4, 2008 at 10:01 AM

Oh, that’s just depressing. Let me gloat for a few minutes.

But in truth, we will have to see what comes of this. Too bad it won’t be for 45 days plus, from what I understood from the lawyer.

Tommygun on October 4, 2008 at 10:06 AM

Their paths have crossed sporadically since then

Boy oh boy, sure takes a lot to make a connection between Obama and Ayers. But some ‘distant relative’ (meaning, some goof who was married to a distant cousin) has actual evidence of Palin’s indiscretions. One is news, the other isn’t. And voila, the MSM’s m.o.

Richard Romano on October 4, 2008 at 10:07 AM

Now can we get a Nevada jury to go after Reid for robbing American citizens?

Limerick on October 4, 2008 at 10:08 AM

I always believed it was a racist jury spitting in the eye of the “white” justice system and helping a brother “get over” on whitey.
Prove me wrong.

SKYFOX on October 4, 2008 at 9:50 AM

You are right mostly. Had white jurors in Simi Valley seen fit to convict the cops that beat Rodney King you may have seen a different outcome in the OJ trial.

Theworldisnotenough on October 4, 2008 at 10:08 AM

You are right mostly. Had white jurors in Simi Valley seen fit to convict the cops that beat Rodney King you may have seen a different outcome in the OJ trial. – theworldisnotenough on October 4, 2008 at 10:08 AM

Those cops should have been given medals. King should have taken Chris Rock’s advice: if you lead the police on a 100 MPH chase they are bringing an ass-kicking with them.

ManlyRash on October 4, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Considering that the kids are now 20 and 23, I am guessing the Brown’s won’t be seeking custody.

Wonder who is going to continue scouring the golf courses of the country in search of “the real killer” once he is behind bars?

InTheBellyoftheBeast on October 4, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Who will sterp up to the plate to find Nicole’s real killer, now that O.J. will do hard time??

joeyb1955 on October 4, 2008 at 10:14 AM

ManlyRash on October 4, 2008 at 10:03 AM

It may be obvious, but I am a firm believer in justice being served immediately after the fact – not by fortune some thirteen years later.

OldEnglish on October 4, 2008 at 10:16 AM

Good By OJ. When OJ beat the rap in LA I said to my self OJ will Kill Again.Thank God I was wrong. I hope they give him
Life.Ha Ha Ha Ha I feel a lot better today.Justice delayed is justice served

Denniscat on October 4, 2008 at 10:16 AM

You are right mostly. Had white jurors in Simi Valley seen fit to convict the cops that beat Rodney King you may have seen a different outcome in the OJ trial. – theworldisnotenough on October 4, 2008 at 10:08 AM

Those cops should have been given medals. King should have taken Chris Rock’s advice: if you lead the police on a 100 MPH chase they are bringing an ass-kicking with them.

ManlyRash on October 4, 2008 at 10:13 AM

Correct, MR.

I could say more, but it would get me banned, no doubt.

Tommygun on October 4, 2008 at 10:17 AM


IRONIC JUSTICE!!

Herb on October 4, 2008 at 10:17 AM

You are right mostly. Had white jurors in Simi Valley seen fit to convict the cops that beat Rodney King you may have seen a different outcome in the OJ trial.

Theworldisnotenough on October 4, 2008 at 10:08 AM

Why would the jurors in Simi Valley convict the cops? I remember Johnny Cochran, who has some expertise in these types of cases, doing commentary and specifically stating at the end of the trial and before the verdicts came back, that he did not believe the prosecution proved their case.

And, no, I don’t think the Rodney King case and the OJ case had anything to do with each other. The prosecution has a much lower conviction rate in downtown Los Angeles, than any other courthouse in the county, including Comption.

Blake on October 4, 2008 at 10:17 AM

Who takes custody of O.J. Simpson’s girlfriend?

In January she suffered a skull fracture and a couple months later she gets hit by a car and has two broken legs.

Blake on October 4, 2008 at 10:24 AM

I really should try to work up some sympathy for O.J., but I can’t.

Think I’ll do a happy dance instead.

Hope he enjoys the new meaningful relationships he’ll develop, forgotten and alone, in stir.

Jack.

Jack Deth on October 4, 2008 at 10:27 AM

Justice is NOT served. Slice and dice him and leave the remains in front of his house… then justice would be served.

CC

CapedConservative on October 4, 2008 at 9:35 AM

I agree, but the fact that a violent criminal will at least be off the streets makes me feel a little better.

4shoes on October 4, 2008 at 10:29 AM

There is an old saying -
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“Time wounds all heels”
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esblowfeld on October 4, 2008 at 10:29 AM

how much will OJ ask for “Oops! If I Did It Again”?

sulla on October 4, 2008 at 10:31 AM

Thirteen years later, OJ discovered that Nevada juries are much less impressed with celebrity:

It wasn’t Simpson’s celebrity that let him walk from that trial, but the judge and prosecutors’ monumental incompetence, and the jury’s stupidity. To quote one juror interviewed after the trial: “Everybody’s got the same DNA!” The judge made bizarre rulings, the prosecutors ignore some of their best evidence and instead drown listeners in a flood of mind-numbingly dull scientific minutiae … that trial was a train wreck from start to finish, and for that Simpson got away with murder.

I hope the judge gives the Juice as long a sentence as he legally can.

irishspy on October 4, 2008 at 10:34 AM

remember

don’t squeeze the juice
set the juice loose

how about a new one…..

don’t free the juice
cook the juices goose

BL@KBIRD on October 4, 2008 at 10:36 AM

Makes me proud to be from Las Vegas. We’re not a bunch of rubes over here like the gang of 12 that let OJ skip on murder charges.

Maybe he can slow down and finally find his ex-wife’s killer while behind bars.

Mojave Mark on October 4, 2008 at 10:41 AM

I was in a position to witness the reaction of a small group of black teens in California when OJ was acquitted of murder. You would have thought Nelson Mandela had just been released from jail after 30 years. They cheered and looked quite smug. And these were not “gangsta” types either. They were all well-behaved, middle class kids, mostly girls.

And they as much admitted they thought he had killed Nicole and Ron, but they didn’t care; this was payback for the Rodney King affair.

Disturb the Universe on October 4, 2008 at 10:41 AM

This is not the OJ that Obama thought he knew.

CP on October 4, 2008 at 10:42 AM

Finally, this sorry-ass f*ck is gonna do some serious time.

The first jury wasn’t about celebrity, it was about skin color.

repvoter on October 4, 2008 at 9:17 AM

And that will be the basis for their appeal, there were no blacks on this jury.

infidel4life on October 4, 2008 at 10:44 AM

There was not a pressing ‘need’ to let a high profile black man off the hook this time.

And you know almost any juror they got would still be giving a verdict based off the double murders, no matter how much they were instructed not to.

Grafted on October 4, 2008 at 10:45 AM

It wasn’t Simpson’s celebrity that let him walk from that trial, but the judge and prosecutors’ monumental incompetence, and the jury’s stupidity. To quote one juror interviewed after the trial: “Everybody’s got the same DNA!” The judge made bizarre rulings, the prosecutors ignore some of their best evidence and instead drown listeners in a flood of mind-numbingly dull scientific minutiae … that trial was a train wreck from start to finish, and for that Simpson got away with murder.

No, the prosecutor’s were not incompetent. In fact they were excellent prosecutors and that’s why they were assigned the case. You try working 12-16 hour days minimum for a year and half, with the media digging through your personal life. Ito was way over his head and lost control to the defense attorneys. The use of DNA was in its infancy and they had a lot of problems even finding labs to test it. The case was extremely rushed because OJ did not waive his right to a speedy trial. The jury was a “downtown jury” i.e., dumb and prone towards acquittal.

Blake on October 4, 2008 at 10:47 AM

Another Obama supporter goes to prison.

SaintOlaf on October 4, 2008 at 10:48 AM

Prison?
But how will he continue his search for the real killer?

jgapinoy on October 4, 2008 at 9:34 AM

Maybe he will get a “hole in one” in prison ;>)

grapeknutz on October 4, 2008 at 10:53 AM

Given the recidivism rates for violent criminals, the “Real Killers” are more likely to be in a Nevada prison than just about anyplace else. Maybe that was OJ’s plan all along!

gridlock2 on October 4, 2008 at 10:54 AM

Encroachment.

15-life penalty.

fogw on October 4, 2008 at 10:54 AM

Now that’s real “Hope and Change “

Texyank on October 4, 2008 at 10:55 AM

It’s alright, Juice. Jail will be a cakewalk compared to having demons claw at your flesh for eternity.

LibTired on October 4, 2008 at 11:14 AM

Well it is ’bout damn time and nice to know ‘black and beautiful’ doesn’t sway all juries.

dustoffmom on October 4, 2008 at 11:18 AM

I was as stunned as the rest of the state when a Los Angeles jury managed to ignore a “mountain of evidence” to acquit Simpson.

Ed Morrisey, dont be practicing sloppy journalism like the MSM. Please give us the unvarnished facts without the erronous spin.

OJ had to be aquitted in the murder case. The cops, the LAPD lied over and over in addition to the tampering of evidence in that case. If you want to blame someone blame that mental midget Darden, Marcia Clark and of course Mark Furman.

They torpedoed the case.

epluribusunum on October 4, 2008 at 11:21 AM

Karma’s a bitch, isn’t it OJ?

AZCoyote on October 4, 2008 at 11:26 AM

They torpedoed the case.
epluribusunum on October 4, 2008 at 11:21 AM

The only mental midget is you. Except for Furhman’s denial of using the N word which was entirely irrelevant to the case, the police did not lie and no evidence was tampered with. Again, Darden and Clark are excellent attorneys and Furman was an excellent police officer.

Blake on October 4, 2008 at 11:29 AM

I imagine Mark Fuhrman is doing the Snoopy happy dance somewhere in the middle of nowhere.

What goes around comes back around…

mram on October 4, 2008 at 11:34 AM

I imagine Mark Fuhrman is doing the Snoopy happy dance somewhere in the middle of nowhere.

What goes around comes back around…

mram on October 4,

That mental image just tickles me. Thanks, mram.

SKYFOX on October 4, 2008 at 11:42 AM

OJ had to be aquitted in the murder case.

epluribusunum on October 4, 2008 at 11:21 AM

Why, because he wasn’t guilty?

The jury wasn’t charged with discovering if there were screw-ups in the investigation. They were asked to determine if they thought OJ hacked two people to death with a knife.

fogw on October 4, 2008 at 11:45 AM

Karma

c3ichief on October 4, 2008 at 11:49 AM

If the cops hadn’t lied their collective faces off, and had they not tampered with the evidence, he would have been found guilty. This case was poisoned by the LAPD and Marcia Clark’s office.

But instead the cops tried to make sure that the evidence was overwhelming thereby sabotaging the whole case against him. That jury did the right thing and made the exceedingly difficult choice to acquit an obviously guilty man, not because they where a bunch of Negroes, because they had to. It’s the law. The evidence and the testimony were hopelessly tainted.

I find it ironic that a lot of people in these forums would deep-six jurisprudence and convict OJ on emotional grounds whilst shredding the Constitution. Very un-conservative, unfair and mostly un-American.

epluribusunum on October 4, 2008 at 12:06 PM

epluribusunum on October 4, 2008 at 12:06 PM

No matter how many times you repeat your lies and insults it will not make them true. There was no evidence tampering by the LAPD or the DA’s office. You are clueless.

Blake on October 4, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Celebrities do get convicted of crimes after all. Just not in California.

As a native Californian, I take exeption to Mr. Morrissey’s implication that justice is not served in the Golden State. With a population of 36 million, (the bulk being in L.A and S.F. counties), I would submit that these two regions are who controls the liberal social experiment where sometimes justice is measured more by privilege than equality. People would be amazed to see that only 18 counties out of 58 were won by Al Gore in 2000. While the largest majority of the population is in these regions, much of the rest of the state is RED/CONSERVATIVE. And for the folks that think northern California ends at SF and Sacto, look on a map; one third of California is north of these lines and are more conservative minded than our “neighbors” to the south. Bush actually won Sacramento County in 2000.

I would wager that Mr. Morrissey resided in the Southern California region where the liberal mentality flourished along with social injustices at times. But this is NOT the California that I know.

Red State or Blue?

Rovin on October 4, 2008 at 12:25 PM

13 years later, commenter that had to pull to the side of the road when the murder verdict was read finally comes out of his state of disbelief.

kahall on October 4, 2008 at 12:52 PM

I find it ironic that a lot of people in these forums would deep-six jurisprudence and convict OJ on emotional grounds whilst shredding the Constitution. Very un-conservative, unfair and mostly un-American.

epluribusunum on October 4, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Last time I looked, the Constitution guaranteed freedom of speech. I am entitled to express my opinion, whether you like it or not.

In my opinion OJ was guitly as sin, so my opinion is in direct contrast to the jury who heard the same evidence. I see that you agree with me on this observation. I believe in the jurisprudence system but that doesn’t mean I have to agree with mindless jurists who ignored mounds of evidence against the murderer OJ.

Here’s your opinion …..

That jury did the right thing and made the exceedingly difficult choice to acquit an obviously guilty man

That’s about the dumbest comment I ever heard. I guess the jury acquitted him on emotional grounds then, huh?

fogw on October 4, 2008 at 12:54 PM

This is why I have always been struck by the genius of a scale being used to symbolize justice.

hawkdriver on October 4, 2008 at 1:07 PM

Why would the jurors in Simi Valley convict the cops? I remember Johnny Cochran, who has had some expertise in these types of cases, doing commentary and specifically stating at the end of the trial and before the verdicts came back, that he did not believe the prosecution proved their case.

FIFY

hawkdriver on October 4, 2008 at 1:12 PM

I don’t think the L.A. jury found him not guilty based on his celebrity.

amerpundit on October 4, 2008 at 9:20 AM

Exactly right. OJ got a pass for the same reason Barack gets a pass.

JeffinOrlando on October 4, 2008 at 1:12 PM

WooooHooooo. He is finally get sent to the joint!! Lets hope gets life without the possibility of parole.

Mooseman on October 4, 2008 at 1:29 PM

Don’t forget tht the jury in California was black while the jury in Las Vegas was white. That probably had a little something to do with both their experience and education level and their world view. Besides, blacks are all distracted right now by trying to get B. Hussein anointed, so OJ didn’t have the same level of worshipful support as he had 13 years ago.

NahnCee on October 4, 2008 at 1:44 PM

As I remember it, not all of the members of the LA jury were black.

Blake on October 4, 2008 at 1:51 PM

No, the prosecutor’s were not incompetent. In fact they were excellent prosecutors and that’s why they were assigned the case. You try working 12-16 hour days minimum for a year and half….

Blake on October 4, 2008 at 10:47 AM

Riiiiight….

I’m sure their minds were on the case while Clark and Darden were banging each others brains out.

infidel4life on October 4, 2008 at 2:09 PM

infidel4life on October 4, 2008 at 2:09 PM

So, are you saying they were also required to take a vow of celibacy? Once again, both attorneys were excellent. The defense bar was quite happy when Clark retired from criminal law in that she not only got her convictions and death sentences, but she also cured any appealable error at trial. I’m sure you’ll disagree, but the opinions of people in the field are worth more than some dork on the internet.

Blake on October 4, 2008 at 2:49 PM

I don’t think the L.A. jury found him not guilty based on his celebrity.

amerpundit on October 4, 2008 at 9:20 AM

Yep, it had absolutely nothing to do with his celebrity but IMHO had everything to do with the absolute stupidity on the part of the jury, the complete and utter incompetance of the judge (Ito) and the prosecutors Chris and Marcia, not to mention the corrupt defense “dream team” that in my opinion should of been prosecuted for obstruction of justice and possible jury tampering.

OJ’s chicken’s have come home to roost and I hope he dies in prison a lonely, shamed, and broken man!

Liberty or Death on October 4, 2008 at 3:13 PM

YES! makes for a good day, the ba$tard is finally getting punished for his actions.

oldernslower on October 4, 2008 at 3:45 PM

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