Comments on: Grade levels in public speaking: meaningless

By: Badger40

Badger40 — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:50:08 +0000

Meaningless drivel. Just like those reporting Biden won. Many great communicators are also great liars. In fact, it has been my experience in life that those who have wonderful sounding slick speeches peppered with lots of great sounding ‘facts’ often get attention, even if they’re lying through their teeth.
The truth seems so hard for some people to recognize. This is how Bill Clinton caused so many to swoon. Same as Oblammo.
I’m sure when the Messiah comes back FOR REAL (not Oblammo) that many will not recognize the truth there, either.
In fact, I’m quite sure if God himself showed up on the world stage with every miracle at his disposal, there will be the same morons arguing against Him.

By: lexhamfox

lexhamfox — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 06:56:07 +0000

It’s an interesting take. More interesting than the standard partisan stuff lurking about here these days.

By: grtflmark

grtflmark — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 05:09:07 +0000

HERE is how this information came about:

Mainstream Terrorist Media Urinalists, after Sarah’s CONVINCING WIN over Biden, were DESPERATELY seeking SOME sort of “factoid” that they could DEVELOP to SPIN their fantasy that Sarah is STUPID.

The first and EASIEST “factoid” check? Grade reading-level: Heck, its an application that is already available on Word. You click once – and Word will spit out the reading level of the document you’re creating.

Unfortunately – they couldn’t “Sneak This By” WITHOUT checking Biden’s reading level as well and – MUCH TO THEIR CHAGRIN – things turned our EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of the way their FANTASIES ran!!

JUST LIKE the Election in November will!!

By: davidk

davidk — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 03:51:31 +0000

Some people find smart people intimidating, some find beautiful people intimidating, some find wealthy people intimidating. I think it all comes back to insecurity.

theregoestheneighborhood on October 4, 2008 at 11:39 PM

Well, two outta three.

By: sheebe

sheebe — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 03:47:22 +0000

That was so far fetched. I love how Palin speaks. She uses language that I can understand. I have never trusted a person that uses big words. That way, they can say that they meant another word. If you notice the Democrats talk like that. Then they can swear that they didn’t say that. You took them out of context. Barney Franks is a great example. I know and understand Sarah. She speaks from her heart. Biden is slick like the worm that he is. He didn’t even look sincere when he was talking. And that so called almost crying was a put on.

By: theregoestheneighborhood

theregoestheneighborhood — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 03:39:04 +0000

I think women are often caught between a rock and hard spot in that way. We’re brainy and well educated and whoo-hoo isn’t that great! But if we come across as too smart and well-educated there are people who resent it, I guess. Sarah Palin is probably damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t.

Bob’s Kid on October 4, 2008 at 8:05 PM

Some people find smart people intimidating, some find beautiful people intimidating, some find wealthy people intimidating. I think it all comes back to insecurity.

Personally, I much prefer a woman who can carry on an intelligent conversation.

Not that that’s in any way unusual….

By: theregoestheneighborhood

theregoestheneighborhood — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 03:28:24 +0000

I just don’t think that saying “Joe Biden’s lies were easier to understand” is a thing to be bragging about.

But I’m sure CNN knows better…

By: KBird

KBird — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 01:46:07 +0000

Can you imagine going to work making these studies. What a line of work you can brag to your buddies.

By: Bob's Kid

Bob's Kid — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 00:05:22 +0000

Yeah, well…speaking as a woman with brains, I learned long ago to purposefully dumb-down my conversation so I wouldn’t be accused of being miss smartie-pants know-it-all, which I was on numerous occasions. Even in recent years I’ve left friends literally open-mouthed at something I said that didn’t seem like a big deal to me–and in my family it isn’t–so I watch what I say and I watch how I say it. I’ve been burned too many times to not do so.

I think women are often caught between a rock and hard spot in that way. We’re brainy and well educated and whoo-hoo isn’t that great! But if we come across as too smart and well-educated there are people who resent it, I guess. Sarah Palin is probably damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t.

By: backwoods conservative

backwoods conservative — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:50:29 +0000

Biden’s IQ is smarter than a 5th garder

- The Cat

MirCat on October 4, 2008 at 7:27 PM

Where did you find a 5th grader that dumb?

By: MirCat

MirCat — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:27:21 +0000

Biden’s IQ is smarter than a 5th garder

- The Cat

By: davidk

davidk — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:25:11 +0000

saint kansas on October 4, 2008 at 4:33 PM

I’ve had Comp 801, and I write real good.

By: backwoods conservative

backwoods conservative — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:09:32 +0000

Am I the only one who thinks that screen cap makes Biden look like a leering dirty old man?

CurtZHP on October 4, 2008 at 6:56 PM

The impression I got watching it was that Biden wanted to turn the handshake into a hug but Sarah wouldn’t let him.

By: CurtZHP

CurtZHP — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:56:48 +0000

Am I the only one who thinks that screen cap makes Biden look like a leering dirty old man?

By: highhopes

highhopes — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:21:40 +0000

That’s interesting, last week I was listening to a woman on C-SPAN rant about how ignorant sounding Palin was and that she needed to go back to high-school to learn how to speak!

4shoes on October 4, 2008 at 6:15 PM

It’s the accent. Show up with anything but an Eastern inflection and the elites deduct 50 IQ points. 75 if the accent is Southern.

By: 4shoes

4shoes — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:15:38 +0000

That’s interesting, last week I was listening to a woman on C-SPAN rant about how ignorant sounding Palin was and that she needed to go back to high-school to learn how to speak!

By: highhopes

highhopes — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:52:14 +0000

I totally sympathize, I am working on my post-grad degree and I have come to the realization that 10 years in the Navy has destroyed my ability to write anything reasonable coherent.

Squid Shark on October 4, 2008 at 5:49 PM

Just wait until you have to write a “civilian” resume after 23 years.

By: highhopes

highhopes — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:51:25 +0000

So while this gives Palin supporters a reason to crow about her trouncing Biden’s supposed intellect, it’s really meaningless, especially with the slight gap noted by CNN. They’re better off reviewing Biden’s gaffes, which is a much more abundant resource.

I agree it’s mostly insignificant- they essentially were speaking at the same level- it shows the power of words.
Sarah Palin came off as a real person while Biden did not.

By: Squid Shark

Squid Shark — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:49:35 +0000

~~saint kansas on October 4, 2008 at 4:33 PM~~

I totally sympathize, I am working on my post-grad degree and I have come to the realization that 10 years in the Navy has destroyed my ability to write anything reasonable coherent.

By: Squid Shark

Squid Shark — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:47:41 +0000

while the Navy and Air Force wanted them slightly higher.

Here is my surprised face :O

By: eaglewingz08

eaglewingz08 — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:59:00 +0000

You know if it were the reverse the dems would put it above the fold on the NYSlimes and the WashcomPost. So let us have our moments of joy to tweak the libtards.

By: saint kansas

saint kansas — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:33:07 +0000

I worked for a few years as a technical editor and writer

OK, this story pisses me off. I too am an editor by trade, suckling at the corporate teat, and all the titans of industry with whom I work can’t write for @#$&.

Yeah, they all have MBAs and advanced degrees, but none of them can put a sentence together or spell. They can speak and write “business English” like Biden speaks “Washingtonese.”

I’m so effing sick of hearing “architect a solution,” although it’s better than “help clients solution their issues,” which I’ve also heard.

By: Mcguyver

Mcguyver — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:22:11 +0000

That’s a good funny one Patrick S @ 12:22!!

By: Mcguyver

Mcguyver — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 20:20:15 +0000

Not to mention tone and demeanor was not even in these evaluations.

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