Hillary: You know who rocked kind of hard last night? Sarah Palin
posted at 4:06 pm on October 3, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Via Breitbart, here she is with Ryan Seacrest this morning stressing of course that Joe Biden, ahem, rocked hardest of all. Even so, you’ll find her point about the five-week learning curve gratifying. Survey USA polled Ohio voters and found them split: Biden won but only by a single point, within the margin of error, and Palin rated fully 20 points higher on likeability. (Biden was deemed more qualified by 15 percent.) 47 percent say their opinion of her went up, 18 percent that it went down. Not a game-changer, in other words, but a solid foundation for 2012.
The party split, incidentally? 37/31 Democrat, a fair sample. I’d love to tell you how that compares to the sample CNN took in its poll finding Greasy Joe a knockout winner, but … the data wasn’t released. Maybe that’s what Jeff Toobin was supposed to be doing instead of watching baseball. Exit question: Has it come to this for Her Majesty? Interviews with … Ryan Seacrest?
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“much more likely”
Love it! Come on baby, don’t commit to the dem. ticket or anything.
dc84123 on October 3, 2008 at 4:11 PM
I think a lot of people miss her now…..
Vashta.Nerada on October 3, 2008 at 4:11 PM
lol…Even a blind person can see she rocked it.
Chudi on October 3, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Has it come to this for Her Majesty? Interviews with … Ryan Seacrest?
Oh don’t worry, it’ll get worse, just wait ’til she has to go on Larry King!
Tony737 on October 3, 2008 at 4:11 PM
Just what Palin needs. A dose of Clinton validity stink.
Fletch54 on October 3, 2008 at 4:12 PM
lol
The greatest thing about Palin’s debate performance is now we can move past Palin is terrible back to where we should be: criticizing McCain. I’m mostly kidding, but I’d be happier and we’d be better off if both tickets were flipped.
Spirit of 1776 on October 3, 2008 at 4:12 PM
The really stupid thing about the polls right now is that some people are giving their partisan answer no matter what. 18% now have a lesser opinion of Gov. Palin? She rocked last night. In what universe does a person go from having two bad weeks, painted by the media as a moron, to last night and not impress even people who don’t like her?
I don’t remember the polls being like this in 2004, but maybe I just forgot.
BadgerHawk on October 3, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Gosh, wonder who Hillary and the Clenis are rooting for?
Damn, this is a tough one …
thirteen28 on October 3, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Cats and dogs sleeping together…….
grapeknutz on October 3, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Bill & Hillary Clinton: Still Thoroughly Enjoying Kicking Obama in the Nuts.
amerpundit on October 3, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Game Changing Platform for this election cycle:
Preemptive Orbital Strike Satellites tasked with one goal…
DESTROYING RYAN SEACREST.
It’d be a landslide.
TheUnrepentantGeek on October 3, 2008 at 4:13 PM
Its come to this when Hillary is willing to say nicer things about Gov Palin than a supposed “conservative” pundit who dogged her. I see a bright future for Kathleen Parker as a car detailer.
PierreLegrand on October 3, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Welcome to another episode of American Idiot
Kini on October 3, 2008 at 4:16 PM
MASS HYSTERIA!!
Had to finish the quote :)
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 3, 2008 at 4:17 PM
She’s speaking directly to her base: American Idol watchers.
Brat on October 3, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Naomi Wolfe in on Medved arguing Palin was out of her depth. In support of her opinion, Wolfe cites facts which are either wrong or lies. What a joke Wolfe is.
Blake on October 3, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Hillary Clinton, Republican voter?
lorien1973 on October 3, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Go ahead, Hill. You know you want to do it. Twist the knife in Teh One’s back a little more. It’s OK. Tell your newly conservative hubby that we said, “Thanks.”
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 3, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Pretty weak endorsement of Biden’s performance by Hillary. The words were there but not the feeling. Clearly she is going to play nice with her party and say the things that she is supposed to say, but I don’t hear any passion for Obama-Biden, or even big passion against McCain-Palin.
Y-not on October 3, 2008 at 4:18 PM
So, California’s governor is asking for a loan because the great state of California can’t cover all its expenses?
Gee….if only the Democrats were able to take charge in that state and implement all the great policies that Dems like Obama and Biden have been talking about. Unfortunately for the peopple of CA, the state is firmly in Republican control and, therefore, the states economy is screwed.
/sarc
JadeNYU on October 3, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Bill has been quiet lately. He needs to get out stumping for the McCain-Palin ticket again.
lodge on October 3, 2008 at 4:19 PM
Gawd, I miss Hillary. I wouldn’t be so freaked if McCain were losing to a Clinton, even the female version of a Clinton. I thinks she’s liberal but not a freaking nut.
Sue on October 3, 2008 at 4:20 PM
She surpassed Obama’s competence level in under five weeks.
If this continues at an exponential pace, then within five months, Sarah Palin will be as smart as Barack Obama and his supporters THINK he is.
Even if she is on my side, that’s still a very scary thought.
logis on October 3, 2008 at 4:20 PM
Im kinda waiting for Bill Clinton to come out in favor of McCain. Probably wait a long time but it isn’t impossible. Bill really really doesn’t like the ONE.
PierreLegrand on October 3, 2008 at 4:21 PM
So Arnold should just raise the taxes on the wealthiest 5% of his state. Get busy. Chop. Chop.
Sue on October 3, 2008 at 4:21 PM
FIFY
platypus on October 3, 2008 at 4:26 PM
You know how you go to a party and there’s a hot chick you are interested in. But she’s with her friend. You know, the friend. You really want to get with the hot chick so you ask your wingman to “take one for the team.”
I think I could look past the cankles. (throws up in mouth)
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 3, 2008 at 4:27 PM
Remember that the current democrats destroyed his more moderate DLC that he was so proud of.
Say a lot about Bill Clinton, but he was - all things considered - a pretty sane democrat.
lorien1973 on October 3, 2008 at 4:28 PM
The polls weren’t like this in 2004 but then the media wasn’t nearly as in the tank for Kerry as they are for Obama.
Kronos on October 3, 2008 at 4:30 PM
Imagine the beauty of it…Bill Clinton endorsing McCain!
PierreLegrand on October 3, 2008 at 4:30 PM
Upcoming PUMA rant on Democrats by someone named Harriet on Fox News.
Enoxo on October 3, 2008 at 4:31 PM
Unfortunately, they’ve been doing that for years which has resulted in poor people moving here for the promised benefits and rich people and corporations moving to states with friendlier tax policies.
Which means there are only two possible solutions:
1) Make it illegal for anyone that earns $250,000 or more/year to move out of the state.
OR
2) Elect Obama so he can make everyone’s taxes awful, in which case, the sub-tropical climate of California will win out and the rich folks will come back.
JadeNYU on October 3, 2008 at 4:31 PM
I don’t remember the polls being like this in 2004, but maybe I just forgot.
BadgerHawk on October 3, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Depends on who is being asked, this is CNN, after all.
“Ok, you ten people are now “Republicans” ok? -wink wink- And we will call you and you need to show lower approvals for Palin, ok?” -wink wink-
Bishop on October 3, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Considering only McCain spoke at Clinton’s Initiative event, and Obama did not, I think we know who Clinton is endorsing.
Enoxo on October 3, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Yeah, like Bill was faithful.
fogw on October 3, 2008 at 4:32 PM
I would rather see Hillary running than Obama. At least with the Clintons we know what to expect, Obama kinda scares me.
Terrye on October 3, 2008 at 4:32 PM
“Exit question: Has it come to this for Her Majesty? Interviews with … Ryan Seacrest?”
With Sen. Obama as the Democratic nominee, it seems American politics is moving towards American Idol. It’s not the interviews with Ryan Seacrest that is the let down… it’s when she taps Randy, Paula, and Simon for her political team for 2012.
malclave on October 3, 2008 at 4:32 PM
When this election began, my talking point was “Anything but another 4-8 years of Clinton. ANYTHING.”
If McCain and Palin were nonexistent, if the race was Hillabeast vs. Obamination, I would vote Clinton.
This scares me.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 3, 2008 at 4:33 PM
What frightens me is that many of the people I know that are voting for Obama are disappointed because they feel like he’ll be 4 more years of Bill Clinton’s centrism.
If Obama is what they consider to be in the center, I don’t want to know what ‘lefty’ things they are hoping they can one day enact.
JadeNYU on October 3, 2008 at 4:34 PM
…who between Hell and Hollywood is “Ryan Seacrest”? Is he one of Demi Moore’s discarded post-pubescent lovers?
…I seem to remember “seacrest” as a pale green color my wife swatched by me when she wanted the bathroom painted…it falls on the color wheel somewhere between the color of snot and of bile….
…so Hilary should fit right in….
Puritan1648 on October 3, 2008 at 4:35 PM
why? They vote the same 95% of the time or something. Obama only won because of favorable media coverage. Hillary knew it. Hillary could have accepted losing if she felt it were a fair race; it was not, so she cannot.
lorien1973 on October 3, 2008 at 4:36 PM
Complete and total communism is the only thing I can think of more left than Obama’s current position (which seems to be “socialist-lite” until his rule is secure).
Quote, “The worst day for our country will be the day when we discover Joseph McCarthy was right.” - D.Baker
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 3, 2008 at 4:37 PM
fogw, I’m so happy when you comment.
“I was so happy and up on Joe Biden” - Hillary, the great
pretenderliar.Last night I thought of Hillary, in her soiled diapers, both from envy and fear.
The Cintons pray that the Obama/Biden camp loses. It’s impossible for Hillary to run again until 2016, if they win. In such a scenario Sarah would run against Barry in 2012 and Hillary would be sidelines/forgotten, in addition to getting much older.
She must truly admire, fear and envy Sarah, and would give much for an ounce of Sarah’s looks, femininity and charm, not to mention warmth and her life.
Entelechy on October 3, 2008 at 4:37 PM
Me too Grue.
Makes me blue.
(Oh, Huckster alert on Cavuto. He’s really become a very poor surrogate/advocate for McCain. ‘Guess he’s more concerned with getting ratings for his show.)
Y-not on October 3, 2008 at 4:38 PM
JadeNYU on October 3, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Say what??? Obama a Centrist???
You have got to be kidding me. Tell your classmates to stick to what they know best, sipping Starbucks, listening to their IPODS and talking about how life sucks even though they’re probably overprivileged spoiled brats.
YellowDawg on October 3, 2008 at 4:38 PM
…no…after she’s left the Millionaire’s Club, she’ll be warbling to John Rich with Dana Delany and MC Hammer on “Gone Country”…she’ll finally get to do “Stand By Your Man”….
Puritan1648 on October 3, 2008 at 4:38 PM
Given the choice between the devil and the second-rank fiend which would you choose?
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 3, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Hillary would have been in Obama’s place right now except people just couldn’t stomach four more years of Bill.
Absent the Hillary-canceler and the race issue, Obama would be nowhere. That has to just burn in her gut day after day.
MochaLite on October 3, 2008 at 4:40 PM
I get the impression he’s &#%@ed off and sees tweaking McCain’s campaign as some form of revenge….
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 3, 2008 at 4:40 PM
The Clintons will never forgive the green Obamas for stepping in front of their
timeparade.Entelechy on October 3, 2008 at 4:40 PM
The ratings for this debate have been mind-blowing. i guess most people wanted to see her for themselves, and she rocked. 11 million for FNC…Wow!!!
Chudi on October 3, 2008 at 4:42 PM
The devil I know, I suppose.
lorien1973 on October 3, 2008 at 4:42 PM
It would be the best day, actually. He was right, of course.
Get M. Stanton Evens’ book on McCarthy. Pretty dry, but pretty convincing. If Bill Ayres ever tries to bite you on the throat, hold Evans’ book in front of you and he will turn into ash.
Akzed on October 3, 2008 at 4:42 PM
grapeknuts…
…mass hysteria! LOL
~B
Brian on October 3, 2008 at 4:42 PM
Who is Ryan
SeaweedWatercrestWhatever?Wade on October 3, 2008 at 4:42 PM
Evans.
Akzed on October 3, 2008 at 4:42 PM
Operation Chaos lives!
CP on October 3, 2008 at 4:43 PM
CBS showed their graph of how “uncommitted voters” responded when Biden, followed immediately by Palin, talked about Iraq. They said it showed stark contrast in how the people responded to Biden’s words vs Palin’s. But the line went from top to bottom before Palin had said 5 words.
Response? They “responded” before she even spoke. And CBS didn’t even have the brains to know they just aired to the whole world the proof that their “uncommitted voters” didn’t even give Palin a chance.
justincase on October 3, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Exactly. The Clintons have been around forever. We know how they operate. We know what to expect of/from them. I seriously think that Hillary would, at bare minimum, protect this country. I do not, nor have I ever, though that of Senator Obama.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 3, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Case in point. :)
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 3, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Harriet Christian is up on Fox News now, saying Palin did very well in the debate. She’s a Clinton supporter backing McCain. That makes 4 now.
Enoxo on October 3, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Yeah, but why is he ticked off with McCain? Did he really think he was a serious VP contender?
Y-not on October 3, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Yeah, my bullfecal meter went into overdrive.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 3, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Harriet Christian is doing a great job on Cavuto. Can we replace Huck with her?
Y-not on October 3, 2008 at 4:48 PM
Palin rally in Florida has to moved to bigger arena.
Bicyea on October 3, 2008 at 4:49 PM
That’s the impression I get. A few days before Palin was announced he was on Rush muttering about how McCain and Romney worked together to nix him in one state, McCain and Paul in another (which was replied to 30 mins later by a caller who claimed Huck lied), etc. etc. etc.
My guess is that he’s a sore loser on par with most Dems.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 3, 2008 at 4:49 PM
That’s what I thought when I heard it.
When someone is busy telling you that Obama is a centrist, you know that they are living in a dream world.
A scary, scary dream world.
JadeNYU on October 3, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Man, Harriet kicked butt on Cavuto just now. She had facts about Obama, Biden, and McCain’s respective records at her command. It didn’t sound like she was spewing talking points, either.
Here’s a post by her from June. The O! bloggers act like she’s a nut, but she seemed like a sharp, sane cookie to me.
Y-not on October 3, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Hillary is an Alinsky-ite too … she just wasn’t selected by the Soros/Dean/nutroot/Axelrod puppetmasters.
Let’s don’t go overboard with Clinton nostalgia.
ex-Democrat on October 3, 2008 at 4:52 PM
Damnit. I wanted to go to that rally, too, cause I live near both arenas. But I can’t make it. :(
Enoxo on October 3, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Hence why I phrased the question in an “absolutely no other options except Obama-sama” situation.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 3, 2008 at 4:55 PM
A couple of things in Hillary’s favor:
1. She would not rely on race-baiting to move her agenda
2. She does not believe that America is fundamentally flawed compared to Europe
3. She does have more experience than Obama and is a little less wrong on national security issues
Y-not on October 3, 2008 at 5:00 PM
To show you what we are up against regarding these O supporters. My wife is a software developer working for an outfit that works with DOD/DOE and others. You might think wackiness would be at a minimum and you would be wrong. One of her co-workers gave everyone a bit of his wisdom while at lunch.
We should mimic China and their system of government. Cause it works.
Wifey, doll that she is turned to him and said she thought it would be a great idea to start feeding babies melamine and lead…like they do in China.
She is thinking about how much longer she can stand it.
PierreLegrand on October 3, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Odd that the first element of his performance she brought up was the genuineness of his grief over the loss of his wife and child. I think Joe Biden is a pretty guileless guy, and went there, sort of in the moment, without trying to capitalize on it in any way. I lost a parent in a similar way and it’s never far from your mind. I imagine he genuinely thinks of them every day.
In contrast, Hillary’s first instinct is to figure his recollection of the incident into his debate performance assessment. She can mimic normal human emotion but there are definitely some connections missing.
DrSteve on October 3, 2008 at 5:07 PM
The event in clearwater, fl had run out of tickets early as well. Over 10,000 people wanted to see her. That’s awesome.
Let’s pray she has some new content for the stump speech, though.
lorien1973 on October 3, 2008 at 5:11 PM
EEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRREEEEEEE
pundit
strikes again!
Calm Before the Storm on October 3, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Her and Bill still have a torpedo to put in the water and the target ain’t McCain/Palin…
Have faith in the vindictiveness of the Clintons, my boy.
SuperCool on October 3, 2008 at 5:20 PM
It was BORG.
That person was beyond help, already assimilated.
Get used to it people. If Obama wins, the term BORG is our weapon to describe the fanatical, mindless followers that will do his dirty work to intimidate, harrass, bully people into their collective.
BORG BORG BORG
Sapwolf on October 3, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Fixed…
CC
CapedConservative on October 3, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Right on!
If Hillary was the beneficiary of the MSM, we’d see the same brutal nazi tactics from her camp too.
Let’s all shut up about how wonderful Hillary is, and just quietly let her and Bill sabotage Obama’s election effort, like the Wehrmacht and Red Army killing each other at Stalingrad.
Don’t worry. Be happy. :)
Sapwolf on October 3, 2008 at 5:34 PM
A new party is going to be started within the next 18 months. It won’t be started by the Clintons, but they will become part of it, and become the leading lights of it. It will be aimed at the middle of America, where Bill has always lived, and where Hillary has pretended to live for the last 9 months or so.
Buford Gooch on October 3, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Faint praise from some honest media put Governor Palin equal or slightly ahead of Biden on the Debate. That means Palin exceeded by miles.
America wants leaders who believe in America and fight for what’s important to them. Elitist lifetime politicians want socialism because big government is their goal.
It’s as simple as that. Before anyone snarks that McCain is a politician of 26 years let me remind everyone that he first went and served his country and spent five years denied of his right to freedom. He doesn’t represent everything the GOP base wants but he sure does know that socialism would bring our economy to a halt.
SayWhat on October 3, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Knock off the “Good for 2012″ crap; The moment is now!
anniekc on October 3, 2008 at 5:57 PM
I call BS! It’s a private heartache, and he used it publicly to garner sympathy. It’s unmanly and unseemly and demeans the tragic nature of the accident.
I might add that Biden continues to refer to the accident as being caused by a drunk driver. By all accounts, the family of the other driver is distressed by this, as the driver was found innocent of all liability. Apparently the Biden vehicle was in the wrong.
It doesn’t remove the tragic element, but the Senator is not above using the story for political advantage. That was the ONLY THING about his performance last night that disgusted me.
JiangxiDad on October 3, 2008 at 6:04 PM
If he stopped saying that, I’d take him seriously. But he doesn’t, so I don’t.
Spirit of 1776 on October 3, 2008 at 6:26 PM
My reaction to that was to be absolutely repulsed! There was no reason for Biden to bring that up!!!! No one said anything about his family situation. He brought it up out of the blue and then showed how he can cry on cue!
Palin said she had not been able to afford health insurance and Biden said, “Well my wife and child died.” Like, your experience is nothing… mine is what’s important.
It was disgusting. And I have just attended the funeral of a family member. Biden was using that for political gain. Disgusting and dispictable!!!!
petunia on October 3, 2008 at 6:30 PM
In a related poll, 98% of respondents said Hillary should come clean about her roles in Whitewater/Madison Guaranty, the subpoenaed billing document stonewalling, Filegate, Travelgate, and the Hsu contributions, and admit she’s a pathological liar, whose reckless ambition and lack of real governing/administrative experience (especially in comparison to Sarah Palin’s) would make her a poor choice and an extremely dangerous risk as a future candidate.
whitetop on October 3, 2008 at 6:40 PM
Why is California asking for that loan? Could it be for embryonic stem cell research or all that other trash (like sex change operations and abortions) which Californians consider vitally important?
California has its priorities — and the rest of the nation has its.
As a Californian, I beg of you — please don’t bail us out — we need to be taught a bit about fiscal responsibility!
unclesmrgol on October 3, 2008 at 6:45 PM
…’he put forward a flawless performance’…yea, Shelob, he knows how to lie very well.
Who is ‘better able’ to shell out more money for Mexifornia?
That’s not a slam-dunk Hilly. Three out of the four candidates are pro-illegals; we still don’t know where Sarah stands on social services for Mexicans, etc. She needs to come on down to the border and check it out, (along with most Americans who have no idea what’s happening in the Southwest). Barbie Boxer and Lady Di haven’t been near the border probably ever.
Christine on October 3, 2008 at 6:45 PM
I hope you don’t mind the slight modifications.
Am I wrong or perhaps feeling punk from MSM poisoning or has the euphoria over Palin’s performance been deflated to a sense of dread of our future overlords? Wasn’t it just a generation ago that JFK stared down a communist during the month of October? Now there’s someone of just about the same political stripe looking to sit at the same desk as JFK. Clinton, either, seems sane and rational to this conservative in contrast to the Great and Powerful Oz.
Perhaps the MSM is in full court press trying to convince us that our political radar is on the fritz and that Obama is actually leading.
I certainly hope not because if we have to watch a President-Elect Obama trying to quiet the chants of O-bam-a! on election night, I’m afraid that it will be a revelation for me that the America that I grew up in no longer exists.
Anyone want to join me in a group reading of Atlas Shrugged?
Dagney Taggart = Sarah Palin?
Is it time to to stop the motor of the world?
Ah, well, who is John Galt?
Time for a martini…
turfmann on October 3, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Have we officially thrown in the towel on this election then?
Disturb the Universe on October 3, 2008 at 7:16 PM
This is the greatest evidence yet of PUMA impact.
Billary is looking at 2012, 2016, or 2020, etc.
She knows that if she criticizes Palin, she runs the risk of upsetting the PUMAs, a major part of her base.
Captain America on October 3, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Yeah, ever since you were a Mets fan, or whatever it is you were.
Tzetzes on October 3, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Word on the street is that she’s not putting out for Obama (pun intended) because he balked at the idea of putting on the Supreme Court if a slot opens up on it while he’s President (assuming he wins of course). Given that and the fact that she was not even considered for the VP slot and you have a woman scorned. After the shafting she got from the Dem Party, I could see Hillary making the jump to the Republican Party. If Hill (and Bill) are nothing else, they are pragmatists.
Dagnar on October 3, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Hillary as a Republican? Joementum’s coat tails?
It’s an interesting idea, and they DID throw her under the bus. She’s gone.
Mojave Mark on October 4, 2008 at 12:49 AM
I was listening too. It reminded me of debate class, when one side has to take a position they don’t really support. Like most liberals, she has to override her own personally held beliefs (that women really ARE capable of doing this job) to be so critical of Palin’s performance.
Hearing her debate an intelligent man like Medved was strange, too. She sounded like a college freshman.
capitalist piglet on October 4, 2008 at 1:26 AM
I am sorry to hear about your loss.
My reaction wasn’t disgust - but as someone who lost a best friend and two siblings at a young age, and the last of my parents not long ago, I know that there comes a time when you can talk about it without choking up.
It is my impression that Joe Biden’s loss occurred quite some time ago; he seems happy with his current wife, and his life turned out all right. I guess I have a little trouble believing he was sincere, and not using it (as you say) for political purposes.
Okay, I’m having a lot of trouble believing that. Liberals are eating it up, however.
capitalist piglet on October 4, 2008 at 1:32 AM
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