Comments on: Breaking: Bailout vote underway; Update: 218; Update: 263-171

By: CapedConservative

CapedConservative — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:16:16 +0000

Et tu Brute on October 4, 2008 at 8:47 AM

Looks like it will need to grow considerably to reach the stage of “fledgling”….

Monday morning. Asian markets tanked huge. Europe is tanking huge. Look like this bailout thingy is working well.

By: TomLawler

TomLawler — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:44:57 +0000

Why is it that libs and cons talk about 700 billion dolars ? It is in fact that libs think that thier programes are the best way to go even when in fact we spend almost the same amout of dollars for IMPORTED ENERGY.

By: dugan

dugan — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 13:59:01 +0000

This bailout bill is bad, and every American needs to know it. It simply addresses the symptoms and not the root cause of the problem. Government policies created this mess, but nothing, nothing is this bailout addresses this!

The problem is simply being pushed down the road, maybe a year, probably less. This bailout will come back to haunt this country.

By: Et tu Brute

Et tu Brute — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:47:05 +0000

It is truly time for a conservative party. CC CapedConservative on October 4, 2008 at 8:12 AM

Ask and ye shall receive.

By: CapedConservative

CapedConservative — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 12:12:08 +0000

There’s a good chance this election could be very interesting when you look “down ticket”. With anecdotal evidence that calls going into DC about the bailout were running close to 100 to 1 against combined with the diversified group opposed (not strictly conservative or liberal… across the spectrum), there could be an awful lot of incumbments lose elections that had not planned on it. When you look at the number of Democrats as well as Republicans that voted no in fear of losing their jobs, this could certainly be a case of unintended consequences for many of the folks in DC. I suspect that if the vote had been taken before the primaries began, it would have never passed. I don’t know about other folks, but I have very hard feelings over this. My tendency is to believe that it probably needed done as an emergency step, but I strongly believe that we do not know the full truth behind it. The credit default swap influence and rumors of the money going to China to keep them from eating our debts and a number of other plausible stories combine to make the lack of real information on who is going to get this trillion dollars is most disturbing. Mel Martinez voted for it and I truly wish he were up for re-election this cycle so I could vote against him. He was also a big supporter of amnesty, so he has lost my vote regardless of his opponent next time. I can only hope that we are given a reasonable alternative in the primary but I doubt this will happen. I was forced to change my registration to no party affiliation as the Republican party has moved away from me. When I look up and down the list of players, I think I could insert Hubert Humphrey and not notice much of a difference. It is truly time for a conservative party.

By: maverick muse

maverick muse — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 10:20:42 +0000

Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.
The world wants to be deceived, so let it be deceived.

Friday, October 3rd, 2008
a day that will go down in infamy
BLACK FRIDAY

By: equanimous

equanimous — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 09:53:05 +0000

Sheets/Beck 08 equanimous on October 3, 2008 at 5:58 PM Dude, Rod Beck passed away, and the Brewers closer is Torres. I hope you mean Glen Beck. Sapwolf on October 3, 2008 at 9:00 PM

I mean Carleton Sheets and John Beck Sheets/Beck 08!

By: Mojave Mark

Mojave Mark — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:30:09 +0000

Can you imagine what this civilian military will look like? I’m thinking like the Nation of Islam members???

Besides which, why the hell do you need a CIVILIAN military? What’s wrong with a military military?

By: Bang for Your Buck – Nicholas Fitzgerald

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By: AZ_Redneck

AZ_Redneck — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:27:28 +0000

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.

THOMAS JEFFERSON, letter to W.S. Smith, Nov. 13, 1787

By: AZ_Redneck

AZ_Redneck — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:24:08 +0000

I’m thinking about refreshing the tree of liberty

LimeyGeek on October 3, 2008 at 1:15 PM

little water for the tree …

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

i’m ready to turn on the sprinkler …

By: csdeven

csdeven — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 03:18:10 +0000

electric-rascal on October 3, 2008 at 9:29 PM

That was disturbing. A civilian military that is just as powerful as our military?

Tell me this has been vetted by HA already.

By: Disturb the Universe

Disturb the Universe — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 02:54:37 +0000

InTheBellyoftheBeast on October 3, 2008 at 10:51 PM

Where’s our Samuel Adams?

By: InTheBellyoftheBeast

InTheBellyoftheBeast — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 02:51:56 +0000

“There is an awful danger when the people become accustomed to tyranny. If the people learn to accept the small abuses, then larger abuses will follow. It is like a disease, crippling slowly, until the body is beyond repair…The people are getting used to being abused…” Samuel Adams

Sounds like modern times!

By: uncalheels

uncalheels — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 02:40:41 +0000

Oddly enough, the bill passed today includes provisions for more snooping, undercovering investigations, etc. by the IRS! Imagine that. The Dims are against terrorist surveilance but all for spying on US citizens if it means getting more tax money out of them!

By: electric-rascal

electric-rascal — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:29:13 +0000

It seems that corrupt leaders always maintain enough military force to protect their own power.

Ya mean like this?

By: Browncoatone

Browncoatone — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:24:45 +0000

But, if it gets bad, some state national guards will leave the national military to fight for the state.

And, getting a few nuclear weapons for a seceding state is quite possible.

It could happen. Make a great novel too.

Sapwolf on October 3, 2008 at 9:04 PM

I don’t think the military will uniformly obey orders to attack American insurrectionists, I only caution those among us that speak easily of revolution while expecting the army to take the fight to Washington.

A squadron of attack helicopters can do an obscene quantity of damage and our modern birds can take quite a beating. I read somewhere that of like 33 or 35 Apaches sent on a day’s sorties nearly 30 of them were damaged, some beyond repair, yet all of them returned to base with crews unharmed. Grandpa’s 30-30 was a formidable weapon in his day but against modern threats other methods must be devised.

Needless to say, any revolt against the government, no matter how justified will be an unprecedented disaster for America- and by extension the world. I still hope that it can be avoided, but I no longer believe it is a matter of if, but rather a matter of when the war descends upon us.

By: Sapwolf

Sapwolf — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:04:06 +0000

Oh, and one more thing: Many of you are counting on military assistance for your rebellion. Don’t. This revolution will not be against a king or some dictatorship, but against a constitutional democratic republic. To take action against federal officers or military personnel is treason regardless of what Jefferson wrote and the heroes that don the uniform to defend America swear to protect her from all threats, foreign and domestic.

And if you don’t think this is exactly what will happen then you need to catch up on your history.

Browncoatone on October 3, 2008 at 4:58 PM

But, if it gets bad, some state national guards will leave the national military to fight for the state.

And, getting a few nuclear weapons for a seceding state is quite possible.

It could happen. Make a great novel too.

By: Sapwolf

Sapwolf — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:00:30 +0000

Sheets/Beck 08

equanimous on October 3, 2008 at 5:58 PM

Dude, Rod Beck passed away, and the Brewers closer is Torres.

I hope you mean Glen Beck.

By: Well, We’re All Bailed Out Now…. « Beltway Snark

Well, We’re All Bailed Out Now…. « Beltway Snark — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:49:04 +0000

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By: ManlyRash

ManlyRash — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:15:38 +0000

Next time take a page from the Democrats and just lie to me. – Browncoatone on October 3, 2008 at 8:14 PM

You deserve the truth, Browncoat. And, hard as it seems to be right now, the truth will set you free.

By: ManlyRash

ManlyRash — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:14:31 +0000

I don’t know that is one fine beer queen. – Dasher on October 3, 2008 at 5:27 PM

I’d do things to her I wouldn’t do to farm animal.

*awkwardly silent pause*

Oh God……Did I type that out loud?

By: Browncoatone

Browncoatone — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:14:10 +0000

I predict that the very people who caused this mess will live to regret this BS Bill.-landlines on October 3, 2008 at 7:07 PM

Not likely. They will be praised and lionized and will profit even more as your fortunes and mine decline and our lives become more miserable.

They will have lavish parties in lavish homes as you and I struggle to pay our ever-increasing taxes.

They will enjoy the best medical care as you and I sit in long lines after they socialize our health care system.

They will die peacefully in bed, surrounded by friends and loved ones and there will be momuments built for them.

You and I will die in impoverished obscurity.

Hope this helps.

ManlyRash on October 3, 2008 at 8:11 PM

Next time take a page from the Democrats and just lie to me.

By: ManlyRash

ManlyRash — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:12:22 +0000

After a few years of socialist control we’ll all be disarmed and sent to mental institutions to cure our ‘Motivated Social Cognition’. It’s amazing what you can get away with if your rival is “crazy”. – Browncoatone on October 3, 2008 at 5:48 PM

Nah. Before then the red states will secede.

By: ManlyRash

ManlyRash — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 00:11:05 +0000

I predict that the very people who caused this mess will live to regret this BS Bill.-landlines on October 3, 2008 at 7:07 PM

Not likely. They will be praised and lionized and will profit even more as your fortunes and mine decline and our lives become more miserable.

They will have lavish parties in lavish homes as you and I struggle to pay our ever-increasing taxes.

They will enjoy the best medical care as you and I sit in long lines after they socialize our health care system.

They will die peacefully in bed, surrounded by friends and loved ones and there will be momuments built for them.

You and I will die in impoverished obscurity.

Hope this helps.