Sources: Palin to go on the offensive against Biden
posted at 4:35 pm on October 2, 2008 by Allahpundit
Smart. It restores the “pitbull in lipstick” image that the Couric interviews dissolved, it increases the chance of a golden Biden jackass moment by getting under his skin, and it keeps the spotlight off of her own answers. The debate’s supposed to be “about” Palin; to the extent she can make it about Biden or, better still, about Biden’s disagreements with Obama, it’s a victory even if she spends half her time tapdancing on policy.
Sarah Palin plans to go on the attack in tonight’s debate, hitting Joe Biden for what she will call his foreign policy blunders and penchant for adopting liberal positions on taxes and other issues, according to campaign officials involved in prepping her for tonight’s showdown…
“This is going to finally put her back into a position where we see her like we saw her the first couple weeks,” a McCain official said. “She was herself. She was authentic, and people related to that. … Tonight, she’ll get into a rhythm. You’re going to see her in a way that you haven’t seen her yet.”…
From her debate playbook, as described by McCain officials:
—Throw Biden’s own words back at him…
—Highlight past Biden foreign-policy positions as a way to undermine his core strength…
—Highlight places where Biden and Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) have differed, including primary-season statements about Obama’s readiness to lead and his positions on Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan.
Follow the link for examples of each. Exit question: What’s Biden’s goal in this debate? The media claims Palin’s the one for whom the bar’s been set low, but realistically all Biden has to do to protect Obama’s lead is sound reasonably informed and coherent (even if he isn’t) and not pop off at his opponent. Shouldn’t be hard for a six-term senator. Be Joe Cool for 90 minutes, take any abuse with a smile, and tear down McCain at every opportunity and he’s guaranteed a draw, which is all he needs. If he can’t resist a zinger at her expense, the obvious angle would be to try to counter her own immaculate blue-collar-ness with his own. Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who’s the most down-to-earth millionaire of them all?
Update: I know what he means but Joementum’s not helping by phrasing things this way.
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Sources: Palin to go on the offensive against BidenI love 2-Stepping for Joe Biden.Mcguyver on October 2, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Agreed. That’s wealthy? There’s a difference between being comfortable and being rich.
JeepGirl on October 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM
I’m just trying to say that if Ifill asks a question like that and Palin goes all “I’d counsel against abortion in that instance” its going to make her look like a stump-toothed hillbilly.
Speedwagon82 on October 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM
albill on October 2, 2008 at 5:10 PM
He cant be attacking all the time or else he looks like a cranky old man; not good. Just give it a bit more time, maybe the second debate, he will start swinging hard.
Cardiganfox on October 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Truly a great video. I stopped a youtube of Barracuda to access that link. One can ohly hope Sarah has half the night Carly turned in there.
EconomicNeocon on October 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM
I hope she approaches this debate with the knowledge that:
1. She has no friends in the building
2. Show the world why you were the right VP pick
3. Stay on your toes and be ready to pounce.
4. State the differences between the two candidates on every issue brought up.
5. Don’t lose without firing every round you have.
kflynn on October 2, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Ptarmigan? Quail?
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 5:16 PM
sweet, Ohio Supreme court over rules Dem Sec. of State
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Y2RjMjJmYjU5MTM2NGFkMmQzMzVmMWVhZjc2OWQxNmQ=
jp on October 2, 2008 at 5:16 PM
Grouse…
right2bright on October 2, 2008 at 5:16 PM
More like a small fatty pheasant. Rock Grouse type.
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Slow Joe will be playing prevent defense tonight. He knows his babbling is verboten, so he’ll let her throw short across the middle and dink some flares outside, but not let her have the post pattern. He’ll grin and admit he sometimes exaggerates when he gets excited, but that is a small price to pay for his experience and expertise. Just a good old boy. Barry will have gained a tremendous amount of foreign policy experience just since the primaries, and Sarah, bless her heart, is a smart little gal, but god help us, just hasn’t had enough time to learn what she needs to know to be qualified at this point. Then he’ll go into a shell and block punches with his forearms. All he has to do is play not to lose. Sarah has to break though that shell and work that huge ego to the point he has to respond. Going to be tough if he has any self discipline at all.
a capella on October 2, 2008 at 5:18 PM
I’d be saying that if it was my daughter. Unlike you and the Third Reich, I don’t consider certain classes of human beings to be non-persons and therefore subject to extermination.
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Registration restrictions harm debate, I still stand by that. The level of debate going on at Townhall at that time was much better, have not been there lately so I cannot comment on the present. At Redstate you get banned if you so much as mention what Leo Strauss and his offspring believe. But I do like to debate and argue, when I started fighting libs whether it was when I started fighting libs at Huffingtonpost or misguided “conservatives” here. I find blogs where I agree with everyone useless and boring.
LevStrauss on October 2, 2008 at 5:19 PM
How marinated? How cooked? *drooling*
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 5:20 PM
As the E-trade baby says, you’re underestimating the creepiness.
I agree. As far as I’m concerned, McCain’s blown this more than Governor Palin..he’s run a weak campaign. I’m tired of being emotionally invested in it, since he doesn’t seem to be. Romney was my candidate of choice way back when.
As a shallow aside, what a stunning visual a Romney/Palin ticket would have been. Not that it matters. :)
nyrofan on October 2, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Breaking! London telegraph article on Obama here.
Pianobuff on October 2, 2008 at 5:21 PM
In your eyes, perhaps. So…when did you have your abortion?
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Imagine medium Cornish Game Hens (but a little more fatty) stuffed with sourdough bread, basil, oregano, dill, some type of spicy pepper (haven’t decided yet) and some orange peel. The Glaze will be like a orange truffle sugar glaze.
Hand manly a napkin.
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 5:22 PM
If she doesn’t humiliate Biden badly tonight I’m predicting McCain will lose. I’m starting to think he’s standing in the way of his own campaign. You can have all the best weapons in the world and it won’t do a damn thing if you don’t use them.
thareb on October 2, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Fringe land? Back in 1994 we said that giving someone less qualified a job because of sex, age, race, etc. is wrong. I think we have just proved our position.
LevStrauss on October 2, 2008 at 5:22 PM
I agree. They would have made a handsome political couple.
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 5:23 PM
OMG….too late *drooling down front of shirt*
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 5:24 PM
DAMN STRAIGHT I would!!
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 5:25 PM
We still have 4 weeks to go of Biden and Obama gaffes. I really still feel that when we get down to the last few weeks and people look at Obama and question if his experience and his policies are not what American voters want or need. BTW, don’t look now, but looks like there is collusion on the part of the US dem party and the labour party of the UK
ConservativePartyNow on October 2, 2008 at 5:25 PM
My experience is the opposite.
a capella on October 2, 2008 at 5:25 PM
*waving Nate’s Chocolate Chip Cookies*
The Dark Side beckons, Grue. Join us. Give in to your secessionist desires. Give in to your inner Founding Father.
Yours truly,
Darth Rash
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 5:27 PM
I am hoping he’s got another few tricks up his sleeve and this is just the lull before the hammer goes down. People have mentioned an OODA loop many times, so I am going with that philosophy.
tru2tx on October 2, 2008 at 5:28 PM
*nabs*
Hey, when it goes down – if I’m still in fighting condition – I’m there. Just not jumping the gun until then. :)
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 5:29 PM
I would prefer a stuffed Biden over a bed of rice.
It takes a while to prepare, but it has no backbone, and you need to trim the excess fat…it has a rather large head, even it’s breed, but the head has very little in it. Be careful of the tongue, it can be sharp, but the wit it dull.
I am not sure how to prepare it…half baked seems about right…
right2bright on October 2, 2008 at 5:29 PM
I believe you. I think it would be entirely dependent on the structure of beliefs previous to such an event.
Spirit of 1776 on October 2, 2008 at 5:30 PM
**Smacks Man**
Dude, I am the Darth one.. I cook. Back to your corner!
Welcome to the Alaska Dark Express. Hold on to your shorts, mukluks and face the wind at -30. You will be in for a wild ride! And you will eat your veggies!
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Does anyone here honestly agree with Palin on her views about abortion in cases of rape and incest?
Speedwagon82 on October 2, 2008 at 5:04 PM
It is the only consistent pro-life position. The trouble people have with abortion is not that the mother is making a decision, but rather that an innocent is being killed. The sin of the father does not make the child any less innocent.
It’s all or nothing. To argue pro-choice from the perspective that the child does not have human rights until born is plausible–problematic, but plausible (though I disagree with it). But to argue pro-life with those exceptions denies the pro-life argument in the first place. In any action conceiving a human life, the only indisputably innocent party is the life being conceived. To say that guilt of one of the party’s justifies the taking of the life of the indisputably innocent party makes no sense. I’m afraid it really is “all or nothing” for honest pro-lifers.
Abortion is not about “reproductive rights”. It’s about sexual rights. (Hence, the pro-choice stances of most homosexual activists). Specifically, it goes to the Leftist desire for “equality of outcome.” The consequences for a female screwing around are potentially far greater than those for a male. To liberals, this outcome is not “fair.” Nevermind it is simply the reality of the situation.
Abortion is an effort to enable women to screw on a par with men’s relative lack of concern for consequences. It seeks to eliminate the natural social distinction between the sexes and in the process tear down any sort of traditional morality, which is based on the reality of the nature of the situation. A “rape and incest” exception are violations of principle for the pro-life stance. And on that issue, it’s one that would be too great a “slippery-slope” threat.
Tommygun on October 2, 2008 at 5:31 PM
For the good of the order. I realize tha National Review isn’t popular here much anymore, but Byron York is pretty evenhanded.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWUyZTQwMjUwNjI0MGE0NDE1ZTNjMWJkMjM2YzY2ZTk=
BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 5:31 PM
It wouldn’t have mattered if we nominated Romney, Thompson, or Huckabee. Americans don’t like keeping a party in power for over 8 years when things aren’t perfect. If we had pulled out of Iraq 3 years ago and the economy wasn’t melting down, then McCain would be winning.
Speedwagon82 on October 2, 2008 at 5:32 PM
*Applause* Well done, good sir! Excellently written! Sums up my position as well, to a T.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Hmm Half Baked Biden. No spine or skin.. hmmmm. Well bake at 350 for about 9 hours, stuffing is already there, toxic at best but you can always stuff dill and basil up the cavity for a better smell.
But you can alays spread some mayo on it, sprinkly garlic, dill and onion powder and top it off with cheddar!
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 5:32 PM
You reveal yourself.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Cooking Biden would be like trying to cook a squid. Only good thing to do would be to put him in a egg and flour him then fry him to a golden brown!
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Grue in the Attic
I guess you want to babysit Iraqis for the rest of time? I meant pull out because the Iraqi people decided to stop acting like 7th century savages and become a modern country.
Speedwagon82 on October 2, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Eeech….I don’t touch junk food.
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 5:36 PM
That’s one problem solved. Unless something’s changed, that same Dem SOS issued an opinion that Republicans don’t have the right to observe the simultaneous registration and absentee early voting that’s allowed here in Ohio for several days. Voter fraud no doubt.
BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 5:37 PM
We’ll pull out when the job’s done. No earlier, no later.
The job wasn’t done 3 years ago.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 5:37 PM
LevStrauss on October 2, 2008 at 5:19 PM
You didn’t answer the question, what are you doing here if you are advising others that they “aren’t missing much?” Are you here contributing to that lack of content or merely trying to lord it over the “misguided conservatives?”
Bishop on October 2, 2008 at 5:37 PM
You’ve been outed as a troll. Stop pretending.
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Tongueboy on October 2, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Exactly. Attack. Everything should end in “The real issue is” –
followed by
“Judgment…”,
“Obama/Fannie…”,
“Obama/Ayers bombed the Pentagon, NY Police HQ, etc…”
“Obama/legislation to let surviving babies die in a closet…”
“Obama/Wright – AIDS created by whites to kill blacks”
“Obama/Wright – God Damn America”
“Biden said Obama isn’t ready to lead, but McCain Is”
“Obama/ACORN – worked for fraudulent vote-fixing group and illegally donated to them with campaign funds”
Jesus H. How easy is this? DO IT!
marklmail on October 2, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Just as long as she doesn’t have us all lying in the corner, in the fetal position, writhing with embarrassment, it’ll be fine.
But really, AP, we need less focus on McCain/Palin and more focus on Senate races where we might make a difference. McCain/Palin and the House Republicans are going to get blown out like explosive diarrhea. But let’s try to keep our Senate seat in Texas and in a few other places, okay? The Senate is our hope.
paul006 on October 2, 2008 at 5:39 PM
OMG *shaking*
Please tell me you are wearing a black leather body suit right now. I’ve been such a naughty, naughty boy…
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 5:40 PM
ManlyRash, just because I don’t want my nieces or sisters to be forced to have hypothetical rape love babies of some loser doesn’t make me a troll. Maybe you truly believe that but not even one-third of conservatives do.
Speedwagon82 on October 2, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Grue has a good sense for these things. So do I. You’ve been called out.
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 5:42 PM
It does make you a hypocrite, though.
It’s either all – abortion whenever, wherever, for whatever – or nothing – no abortion ever, regardless of circumstances, end of line.
To claim a pro-life position then turn around and say “except when X, Y, or Z” makes you a hypocrite.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Speedwagon82:
I’ll bet the victim would be glad to volunteer to carry the child all the way to term if that gave her the right to carve off the rapist’s genitals with a switchblade.
If you think about it, there is a solution to this problem that does not require victimizing the innocent.
Kristopher on October 2, 2008 at 5:43 PM
What percent of abortions are due to rape? Get off of a non-issue for 99% of the country.
marklmail on October 2, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Speedwagon, let me ask it to you this way. WHY do you support abortion during those situations?
Is it because you don’t want your family to be stuck with a child of a rapist? That’s what adoption is for.
You don’t want them to go through the pain of nine months carrying and childbirth? Do you seriously believe that’s an even trade for the life of a child? SERIOUSLY?
I’m curious for your reasoning behind your position, because for all I can see it’s extremely illogical.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Registration restrictions lowers the level of debate. It is ripe territory for me, but yes people aren’t missing much. Frankly when I post something seriously and someone disagrees there are no thoughtful answers. It has actually made my tone more combative and more inclined to make a sarcastic statement than engage in debate. Back when I wrote that at townhall there was some of that, but mainly you would have two people disagreeing who would write paragraphs back and forth going over every little detail of policy and neither had to get very snarky and both could agree to disagree. People never said, “what are you doing here if you don’t agree”, “go back to fringeland”, or “(enter your own childish personal attack)”. Also no registration helps the regular visitors keep up with trends in public opinion because they are not sheltered.
LevStrauss on October 2, 2008 at 5:47 PM
That is about right, however, I would hold off on the cheddar, I find him rather cheesy…
My prayers are with you Alaskans tonight, it is a big night. She will do you and the nation proud.
right2bright on October 2, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Oh hell yeah! 1654. for every Alaskan citizen for oil revenue sharing?! Thats what I’m talkin bout bitches! Ha Ha Ha Ha
sonnyspats1 on October 2, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Hmm… does 6 inch stilletos count?
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 5:49 PM
thanks right!
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Biden’s problem is that in order to not screw it up totally he is going to have to get way mellow and tone it down. Doing so will make him look old and tired. Certainly next to someone who is young and quite visually appealing.
Palin’s problem is the Ifil needs to sell books so she can upgrade to a Lark or a Power Scooter. In order to do that she will have to shape the questions to where they can play to Sarah’s weaknesses.
Short of Palin falling flat on her face, which I do not expect, she will win but I fully expect the media to say it was not enough. They never will accept Palin because she has not bowed down to the likes of Dowd.
grdred944 on October 2, 2008 at 5:50 PM
*gasps*
Can’t breath…must stay conscious…uhhhhhhhh
*faints*
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Best thing about conservatives…we do kinky sex way better than neurotic liberals.
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 5:51 PM
and Iran would have taken over Iraq, etc. etc.
Easy to say what if, 3 years later.
Give it up, the country is evenly split. The difference will be who the swing voters “like”, not who is best, but who they like…JFK proved that, Clinton proved that, Dole’s loss proved that. The best man doesn’t always win.
It is a long way to go till the election.
right2bright on October 2, 2008 at 5:51 PM
Hear, hear! Well said, sir.
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 5:52 PM
All Joe has to do is stand there for 90 minutes and smile. The MSM will declare him the winner.
GarandFan on October 2, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Excellent points.
Just focusing on her situation: It’s an all or nothing fight. If you’re fighting for your life (and I’m convinced at this point she is), you have nothing to lose. Come November 5 or so, Palin will either be VP-elect or a discredited governor from a far-off state, working on plans to go back to fishing. Not much middle ground.
This is truly a place where the good of the team (the ticket and the country) and the good of the individual member are precisely overlapping. It’s “Press Your Luck” time–she either wins it all (or at least a chance at it all) or loses her shirt. (Stop panting, guys–I’m being metaphorical there)
(And for that matter, probably ditto the campaign–the ticket and the country as we know it.)
One personal note: Palin does have one personal quality I particularly admire in all this. I’m convinced she’s not tied up in it all. If she succeeds, great. She moves up and serves. If the fails, she just goes back, finishes up as governor, and then goes fishing with her family.
It’s her faith, it’s her family, it’s her principles. Too often I personally see people tied up in those things, and as a result they fail to adequately act sufficiently for the greater community. They get selfish in them. Palin shows how people can indeed have all those things and yet still lay oneself out for their community and country. Whatever the outcome, hopefully people on “our side” can take this lesson from the campaign.
Tommygun on October 2, 2008 at 5:56 PM
That video just did it for me. Had to pass it along. Glad you enjoyed it EN.
Zetterson on October 2, 2008 at 6:01 PM
What idiot thought it would be smart to hype her up as well as leak her strategy to the media? Uhhhhh…starting to believe what the dems keep saying about John McCain being out of touch.
Unless, that is, they are trying to pull Biden out and make him engage and, ultimately, show himself to be the Biden we all know and love when cornered. :o)
Mommypundit on October 2, 2008 at 6:02 PM
BTW, when are the other presidential debates?
Mommypundit on October 2, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Probably not many for good reason. Most states include a choice of a morning after pill as part of the post rape treatment. May I assume you would like that part of the treatment not made available or illegal?
a capella on October 2, 2008 at 6:03 PM
First of all, I don’t believe in abortion just because two people have consensual sex. Its not the baby’s fault they couldn’t wait until marriage.
But I believe rape is such a gigantic deprivation of a mother’s rights that it overrides the resulting baby’s right to life.
I know this doesn’t seem consistent with your beliefs on every child’s equality, but I don’t really give a damn. McCain and the vast majority of the pro-life community agrees with me. I don’t even think Sarah Palin would make any move to outlaw abortion in cases of rape(despite what the lunatic Left thinks). I just hope her personal belief against it doesn’t cost us otherwise pro-life votes.
Speedwagon82 on October 2, 2008 at 6:04 PM
Thank God…but aren’t they also refusing to allow observers of their same-day registration/voting? That is a great concern.
capitalist piglet on October 2, 2008 at 6:08 PM
And therein you are a hypocrite.
Then forward my message to them as well. They’re hypocrites too. I don’t have any problem calling a spade a spade no matter how outnumbered I am.
Abortion is MURDER. REGARDLESS of the cause of the baby’s creation. End. Of. Line.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 6:09 PM
While I agree that aide–presuming this report isn’t made up out of whole cloth–should be sho…, ur, fired (this does not sound like some sort of intentional leak), the article substantively is meaningless. Of course they say Palin will “attack.” What is that unnamed source trying to get in good with the media gonna say: “Oh, she’s gonna sit there and look real pretty, and talk about how Alaska has ‘energy!’”?
And of course Palin will launch some attacks. Even if the ticket was up 10 points she’d have to do that.
Best advice for us viewers: Ignore the reports.
Tommygun on October 2, 2008 at 6:12 PM
PS: You still didn’t answer my questions.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 6:12 PM
What’s this now? I’ve only vaguely heard about these things… from the impression I get, they’re basically Abortion Pills. That right?
If the answer is yes, then damn straight I want them illegal.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 6:14 PM
Carl Cameron just said that Reuters News Service asked the Debate Commission if they were going to check the ears of the veeps before the debate.
Enoxo on October 2, 2008 at 6:15 PM
Close. It overrides the RAPIST’S right to life!
Your position is amoral, ignoring the moral difference between the two lives. One is innocent, and should be preserved. The other is guilty, and should be eliminated.
It never ceases to amaze me how some people have fallen so far as to lose that perception of the very concept of right and wrong, good and evil. To reject it in practice is bad enough, but to reject it even in theory goes to a psychological deficiency.
Tommygun on October 2, 2008 at 6:16 PM
I saw a few years ago that the actual incidence of pregnancies resulting from rape or incest is about 3%. Are all these babies being murdered just so someone can have an abortion if she is raped and has a 3% chance of getting pregnant. That’s sounds like a liberal’s way of thinking to me.
AubieJon on October 2, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Thank you, yet again.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 6:18 PM
Make us proud Gov, make us proud. We need it in these despairing times of socialism being forced upon us.
Kevin in Washington State on October 2, 2008 at 6:22 PM
So Palin apparently has become hugely unpopular. My wife was on her way to see a client this afternoon at 3 and stopped at the local Republican HQ in Ft. Myers to snag some tickets for an upcoming event. She said the line went out the door and off into forever. She just called me on her way home at 6:30 and the line no goes on forever and ever. I think her event here will be a packed house.
CC
CapedConservative on October 2, 2008 at 6:24 PM
Sweep the leg, Sarah, sweep the leg!
Pasalubong on October 2, 2008 at 6:27 PM
Thanks. CC. I’m hoping that OBambi and the MSM are underestimating the public’s ability to reason for themselves and weed out the propaganda.
AubieJon on October 2, 2008 at 6:27 PM
Sarah will be fine. It’s Joe I’m concerned about. We’ve all seen him on the talking heads shows. As soon as he gets called on one of his gaffs he tries to go all Rambo. I’d look for a meltdown on the blue side of the stage.
Limerick on October 2, 2008 at 6:28 PM
With 5 children, I’ll bet Sara-Cuda knows how to effectively handle a meltdown.
AubieJon on October 2, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Yep. That’s what I meant, btw, that Sarah will handle it when Joe turns into his usual smarta**.
Limerick on October 2, 2008 at 6:31 PM
“Come on, with all respect the PTA is hardly qualifications for…..”
“Ever tried it Joe? Ever tried running a city or a state? Ever tried to build an oil pipeline?”
Limerick on October 2, 2008 at 6:33 PM
My father-in-law lives in Iowa. Voted Dukakis, Clinton, Clinton, Gore, Kerry. Watches only ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN. We were discussing the financial situation night before last when he asked how I planned to vote… he knows I really really really don’t like McCain and was having fun picking on me. I told him that I tought Obama was going to lose huge. I cited historical performance of extremely conservative (Goldwater) and liberal (McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis) candidates and the probably “Bradley Effect”. I then said I suppose you’re voting for Senator Obama? His response was that he didn’t see how he could. He said he and his neighbors discuss politics all the time and they just aren’t comfortable with him… they don’t know who he is and the little bit they do know, they don’t like.
For what it’s worth…..
CC
CapedConservative on October 2, 2008 at 6:34 PM
“Ever tried getting people registered to vote when all you bribe them with was cigarettes? No, but your running mate has.”
AubieJon on October 2, 2008 at 6:36 PM
Glad to hear that! Lee County is one of the deep-red parts of Florida (Bush got over 60% there both times), but it’s good to know they’ll be out there on Election Day–we’ll need every one of them!
Unfortunately, my parents who vote absentee there are Obamabots from reading the New York Slimes too long. They blame the “Republican” financial problems. Which is why I keep insisting that McCain/Palin need to name names about who ran Fannie and Freddie into the ground, made millions, and stuck the rest of us with the bill!
Steve Z on October 2, 2008 at 6:38 PM
CapedConservative on October 2, 2008 at 6:34 PM
I hope there’re a lot of folks like that out there.
AubieJon on October 2, 2008 at 6:38 PM
There is personally counseling against that and implementing such as policy and law. Those are different matters.
aikidoka on October 2, 2008 at 6:41 PM
Imposition of one’s own value system which requires carrying a forced, nonconsensual pregnancy to term by a brutalized woman may also have some moral deficiencies. The old canard about just giving birth and handing it off for adoption or raising it as a love child with no negative psychological impact on the mother is the cheap easy answer, molded to justify the original value system.
a capella on October 2, 2008 at 6:42 PM
And just as I expected, Katie Couric runs interference for Obama before the debate.
It escapes me how that two-bit hack is still considered a respectable journalist. She should go enroll in a wet t-shirt contest somewhere.
Ryan Gandy on October 2, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Less so than Murder.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 6:43 PM
We will all know in two and a half hours. A knockout by Sarah and this place will go nuts. A knockout by Joe and the population of HA will suddenly decrease as the EMTs haul the parts off.
Limerick on October 2, 2008 at 6:46 PM
Tonight’s theme music, Wilson sisters be damned…
turfmann on October 2, 2008 at 6:47 PM
I have faith in Palin. I think she’ll not only hold her own but provide a knockout punch to Biden.
/perpetually optimistic
Yossarian on October 2, 2008 at 6:48 PM
a capella on October 2, 2008 at 6:42 PM
How many women who’ve had abortions do you meet on a regular basis? Many of them will tell you that the abortion was the real violation. Many have difficulty respecting themselves for what they’ve done. The abortion advocates we see and hear from have either never had one or have hardened themselves against the trauma it causes.
AubieJon on October 2, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Why do I always feel there is a catch-22 in what you post?
Limerick on October 2, 2008 at 6:50 PM
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