Pop quiz: Quotes from the Collapse
posted at 12:10 pm on October 2, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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The Wall Street Journal has a handy reference guide to some particularly interesting quotes from Congressional hearings on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as they steered the global financial markets onto the shoals. Let’s make this a quiz for Hot Air readers. Can you guess the person and/or their party affiliation from the following quotes? The answer key will be hidden from initial view below.
- The more people, in my judgment, exaggerate a threat of safety and soundness, the more people conjure up the possibility of serious financial losses to the Treasury, which I do not see. I think we see entities that are fundamentally sound financially and withstand some of the disaster scenarios.
- Secretary Martinez, if it ain’t broke, why do you want to fix it? Have the GSEs [government-sponsored enterprises] ever missed their housing goals?
- I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidized housing.
- I am just pissed off at Ofheo [Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, regulators for Fannie/Freddie] because if it wasn’t for you I don’t think that we would be here in the first place.
- However, I have sat through nearly a dozen hearings where, frankly, we were trying to fix something that wasn’t broke. … Mr. Chairman, we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac, and in particular at Fannie Mae, under the outstanding leadership of Mr. Frank Raines. … Everything in the 1992 act has worked just fine.
- I believe there has been more alarm raised about potential unsafety and unsoundness than, in fact, exists.
- And my worry is that we’re using the recent safety and soundness concerns, particularly with Freddie, and with a poor regulator, as a straw man to curtail Fannie and Freddie’s mission.
- I, just briefly will say, Mr. Chairman, obviously, like most of us here, this is one of the great success stories of all time.
- I know the press, particularly, keeps saying this is another Enron, which it clearly is not.
- Mr. Chairman, what we’re dealing with is an astounding failure of management and board responsibility, driven clearly by self interest and greed. And when we reference this issue in the context of — the best we can say is, “It’s no Enron.” Now, that’s a hell of a high standard.
In order to see the answers, please highlight the rest of this post by clicking your mouse and dragging it over the rest of this post. Grading key: 9-10, you get your PhD in history, with a minor in government screw-ups; 7-8, bachelor’s degree in economics; 5-6, you need remedial work; 4 or less, pray that someone bails you out.
- Barney Frank (D-MA), 9/10/2003.
- Maxine Waters (D-CA), same date.
- Frank, 9/25/2003.
- Gregory Meeks (D-NY), same date.
- Waters, same date.
- Frank, same date.
- Chuck Schumer (D-NY), 10/16/2003.
- Chris Dodd (D-CT), 2/24-5/2004.
- Robert Bennett (R-UT), 6/15/2006.
- Chuck Hagel (R-NE), same date.
Final count: Democrats 8, Republicans 2.
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How hard would it be to make a commercial with Barney BF here, sputtering and sniffling the stupidities listed here and tying it all to the absolutely worthless Democrat Party and its crappy Presidential nominee?
And why isn’t this ad out today?
NoDonkey on October 2, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Read the article first thing this morning. Good to see the Dems getting a little ‘MSM’ exposure. Of course most WSJ readers already know the root cause of the current ‘crisis’. The rest of the MSM needs to quit covering the Dems and let the American public know the truth.
DerKrieger on October 2, 2008 at 12:14 PM
I saw this last night in your highlights. Exit question: will McCain even bother to turn voter outrage on the bailout to his advantage and against Obama and his friends? My guess is that McCain is going to rely on the media to do this for him.
BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 12:14 PM
#5 Maxine Waters
#6 Barney Frank, Architect of Disaster
#10 Wide stance, Utah
That’s enough – leave some for others, my mother used to say. Here’s some more fun from WSJ:
Vashta.Nerada on October 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM
The OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP of Franklin Raines….
Maxine, it could ONLY be YOU.
originalpechanga on October 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM
I thought Barney was “working” Senator Craig to get his vote??
KZnextzone on October 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM
brtex on October 2, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Thank you, Mark Levin.
RushBaby on October 2, 2008 at 12:16 PM
That bastard should be in jail. Seriously. Or at least driven out of congress on a rail.
Barney Frank is just completely, utterly, dishonest. He is probably the most responsible for this mess. He was litterally in bed with Fannie. http://forums.motortrend.com/70/7074824/the-drive-in/barney-franks-boyfriend-was-fannie-exec-during/index.html Why is this not being reported?
Mr. Joe on October 2, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Because McCain is too busy giving interviews chatting up bipartisanship and exonerating Gwen Ifill for her extraordinary conflict of interest. McCain lied when he told us to stand up and fight with him.
BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 12:17 PM
That’s right, Dodd!
This is going to be an even greater success story than when Custer told his troops how they were going to surround all those Indians!
pilamaye on October 2, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Great stuff!
So why is the meek McCain and Romper Room GOP dancing around all this?!!
Do they think for one nanosecond, that if the dems had this kind of dirt, on video, regardless of the state of the country, would not be naming names and going for the throat????
This is why we will lose in Nov. Hubris and fecklessness.
Starlink on October 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Thanks for the image, KZ…. now I gotta’ go shower.
Chicost84 on October 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM
He meant to say “stand up and fight for me”
DerKrieger on October 2, 2008 at 12:18 PM
I like the clicky-draggy thing. Internet magic!
HawaiiLwyr on October 2, 2008 at 12:21 PM
I put my McCain-wear in storage last Saturday. It’s hard to root for someone who won’t stand up for himself.
BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 12:21 PM
The End Of the World getting pushed back again due to scheduling conflicts:)
http://rattlergator.typepad.com/rattlergator/2008/10/moving-the-money-from-wall-street-to-main-street.html
Dr Evil on October 2, 2008 at 12:22 PM
I want to roll the dice more? Barney Frank said that and it is not being harped on? Forget McCain-Palin, why isn’t the RNC running an ad to protect those GOP members running this cycle beyond the top of the ticket? This is nuts.
Mr. Joe on October 2, 2008 at 12:22 PM
My guess is they don’t want to peak early… another week or so… then start the barage.
CC
CapedConservative on October 2, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Please, no more pictures of that man on the home page. Can you replace him with a Rorschach?
Brat on October 2, 2008 at 12:23 PM
“Barney Frank is just completely, utterly, dishonest. He is probably the most responsible for this mess. He was litterally in bed with Fannie.”
Eeeeew, what a revolting thought! Not sure I’ll have any appetite the rest of this day!
Webrider on October 2, 2008 at 12:23 PM
I think he would be with Freddie, not Fannie, yes?
Brat on October 2, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Speaking of Fwank, what was the name of the guy he was… ah… well, dating that worked at FM/FM? Anybody know?
CC
CapedConservative on October 2, 2008 at 12:24 PM
There’s going to be a pop quiz…nobody told me that…really a quiz?
But, I didn’t study up on this stuff last night, plus the alligator in my bathtub ate my homework this morning.
I hate tests.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 2, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Frank is in bed with Freddie’s Fannie.
DerKrieger on October 2, 2008 at 12:26 PM
Hey, not fair! How can we identify Barney’s quotes without the lisssthping pronunciation?
And they make fun of Palin’s accent. Right.
Y-not on October 2, 2008 at 12:26 PM
McCain and the Romper Room GOP are in church praying that Palin’s performance tonight will somehow revive the campaign. McCain’s incomprehensible stupidity and gutlessness have put Palin in a very difficult position. But McCain can always fall back on talking about the surge–swing-state voters are real interested in that.
BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 12:27 PM
#9 is my Senator. I’m so proud. NOT!
He sucks and it should come as no surprise that his #4 in money from Fannie/Freddie. Of course, he voted for the bailout.
batter on October 2, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Totally agree. It’s needlessly cruel to show him without his teeth in.
JiangxiDad on October 2, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Sorry, I think it’s already too late. Credit crisis averted; economy faltering; baseball postseason in full swing; McCain looking foolish (rightly or wrongly) in the middle of a crisis; and Obama looking harmless. The concrete’s setting or has set. McCain looks weak, and he’s doing nothing to change that impression.
BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 12:32 PM
Oh yeah… consider my dilema. Martinez, the Rep from Florida voted FOR. Nelson, the Dem from Florida voted AGAINST. Have to change his name from Mel Amnesty Martinez to Mel Amnesty Bailout Martinez.
CC
CapedConservative on October 2, 2008 at 12:33 PM
My favorite quote evah:
I want to roll the dice a little
–Bawney Fwank….
TheBigOldDog on October 2, 2008 at 12:34 PM
1.George Bush
2.George Bush
3.George Bush
4.George Bush
5.George Bush
6.George Bush
7.George Bush
8.George Bush
9.George Bush
10.George Bush
-Media Matters, WOOHOO, WHAT DO WE WIN!!!!!!!
JeffinOrlando on October 2, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Corrected… no prize for you…
CC
CapedConservative on October 2, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Herb Moses. I know him. Lives in southern California now.
rockmom on October 2, 2008 at 12:40 PM
No offense RockMom, but you seem to be familiar with a lot of… well… lowlifes. Howzat?
CC
CapedConservative on October 2, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Speaking of Fwank, what was the name of the guy he was… ah… well, dating that worked at FM/FM? Anybody know?
CC________________________________________________
Barney Frank’s former boyfriend was Herb Moses. Yes, a Fannie Mae Executive.
try again later on October 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM
The Republicans should hang this around the entire Democrat party like the proverbial Albatross. I’m starting to feel like the Republicans are nothing more than “Democrat-Lite”. At the office today, the consevatives are all asking, “Doesn’t anyone see this, doesn’t anyone want to call Obama for what he is, a Socialist Marxist?”
I left the Republican party(still support) a long while ago, as the party that is supposed to make government smaller has only grown it with the SocialistDemocrats. I have a sneaking suspicion they agreed to lose this election. Maybe the Republicans are really just socialists too, playing “good cop,bad cop” with the Dems…I consider myself a Neo-Libertarian, and gladly so. I’m registered as an independent, and will probably change to Libertarian after the election. The Republicans don’t want to win….
adamsmith on October 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Ed –
I am hitting the blogs today begging someone to start asking some questions about Paul Sarbanes’ role in all this. He is the real cuplrit in my view. Here is an article that desribes what happened as Sen. Shelby attempted to pass a tough GSE reform bill in 2004, after the Freddie and Fannie accounting scandals:
http://www.cuna.org/newsnow/archive/list.php?date=033104
When Shelby brought up his bill, it passed on a party line vote orchestrated by Sarbanes. Therefore, Shelby knew he could not get 60 votes for it and never tried to bring it to the floor of the Senate.
The bill that finally passed via Barney Frank in 2007 was a much weaker version of this bill, and added a 5% ACORN slush fund which Republicans opposed. And even that bill was only passed this summer because the White House threatened to veto the housing foreclosure bill unless it was added.
Democrats have all the blood on their hands here. But much of it belongs to Paul Sarbanes. Why he has not even been interviewed by any news outlet is a complete mystery to me.
rockmom on October 2, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Yes we do. But our party doesn’t have a presidential candidate in the race.
fogw on October 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Caption for the headline picture:
“I’ll have another snitzengrubben please!
brtex on October 2, 2008 at 12:54 PM
I’m a recovering mortgage banking lobbyist. It came with the territory. ;-)
It’s a really dumb coincidence that I know Herb Moses, and I knew him in 1998 after he had left Fannie Mae and broken up with Barney. I had completely forgotten about him until the story surfaced this week. I feel like Zelig or Forrest Gump in all this mess – I seem to have been around when almost everything happened and I had no clue at the time what was coming, but I can sure put it all together in hindsight.
rockmom on October 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Wow, can we get 3-D glasses next time to see the answers?
That was awesome.
Hening on October 2, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Maxine Waters, the woman who wanted to nationalise the oil companies. There are so many Dems aroudn that are just TERRIBLE
lodge on October 2, 2008 at 12:58 PM
When are charges coming?
Tim Burton on October 2, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Isn’t Dodd the one who got a couple of hundred grand in “donations” from Freddie and Fannie with the Messiah running a close second?
sdd on October 2, 2008 at 1:03 PM
try again later on October 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Wow!! No wonder Barney was on the take!! Has this shown up in the MSM? That’s probably a stupid question but I had to ask it?
sdd on October 2, 2008 at 1:07 PM
No and Yes.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 1:08 PM
When do the bad actors in this the greatest malfeasance the country has ever seen get to hear some quotes, like , hey baby, how yoo do’in?
When do they get to iron pants for some guy named Gus?
Speakup on October 2, 2008 at 1:09 PM
I need remedial work…but I’m very bad with names.
The Honorable Representative B. Frank was on CNBC mid morning and making very reasonable arguments. The discussion turned to the need for ‘oversight’, and a chill went down my back as I realized the Honorable Representative B. Frank was saying that he and his friends should be the people doing the oversight of those Treasury purchases of distressed derivatives.
rockhauler on October 2, 2008 at 1:10 PM
Why the F**K isn’t this information being bombarded by Republicans on an hourly basis?!!!! Why haven’t they since this thing broke?! Y’know, I’ve contributed to the campaign and they’re just wasting my money. I am really getting pissed-off.
Palin better hammer away at all this tonight
J.J. Sefton on October 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM
This will come out in ads only AFTER the bill passes.
ArmyAunt on October 2, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Can we get this thing passed already so we can stop being bi-partisan and start calling for the resignation of some of these clowns!!!! Can we have a national referendum telling their districts they can’t send them to Washington anymore because they are ruining our lives?
petunia on October 2, 2008 at 1:30 PM
Answer to all: Democrats.
I see that I get a degree in economics.
Great. That puts me ahead of
BarneyBraney Frank, Joe Biden, and Al Franken…. so I’m feeling pretty good.Mcguyver on October 2, 2008 at 1:32 PM
Michael Graham has been all over this in the Boston Herald. Jeff Jacoby even had a column on it in the Globe. I guess the people in Frank’s district just have their fingers in their ears, singing la-la-la-la. They have the information.
The Hartford Courant had a blistering editorial earlier this week
rockmom on October 2, 2008 at 1:34 PM
That has got to be stopped. Barney Frank should never be allowed near anyone’s money ever again!!!!
Barney Frank needs to be prosecuted for lying to the American people and other congressment for all these years. How can this go unpunished?
petunia on October 2, 2008 at 1:34 PM
I agree entirely. But even if Palin hits a grandslam, I still think it will be irrelevant. McCain has been looking very weak for three weeks. Biden is just a foreign-relations consultant to whom everyone will give a pass. He’s a mere backstop for Obama. But then, Obama looks safe to most swing-staters, so he just has to run out the clock.
I don’t see how McCain is going to change any minds in his two remaining debates. Swing-stater have seen enough of McCain in the past three weeks to turn their attention elsewhere until election day. I think the perception of Palin has already been cemented for this election cycle. She’s really debating only for her own national viability.
If the race were close, this debate would matter. McCain is running around with a ton of ammo around his waist as he he’s pointing gun with nothing in the chamber (or clip). It’s painful to watch.
BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 1:36 PM
Michael Graham has been all over this in the Boston Herald. Jeff Jacoby even had a column on it in the Globe. I guess the people in Frank’s district just have their fingers in their ears, singing la-la-la-la. They have the information.
The Hartford Courant had a blistering editorial earlier this week on Chris Dodd. Remember that most of the hedge funds are in Greenwich. They’re losing their shirts thanks to Chris Dodd. I will not be surprised to see him retire after this.
Just because you are not seeing this story 24/7 on CNN does not mean it isn’t getting out there.
rockmom on October 2, 2008 at 1:36 PM
Fannie Mae = Enron Lite: All the Fraud, But none of the Indictments
SlimyBill on October 2, 2008 at 1:37 PM
My compliments, again, rockmom. McCain should (but apparently won’t) be emphasizing that Frank’s district and Dodd’s state will never vote them out. So, other too many other points to be made, a vote for McCain is a vote against this nonsense. There’s enormous anger that McCain is not tapping into. It’s his political Anwar.
BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 1:38 PM
The ACORN stuff is really awful and scary. It seems to be a fund that tax payers pay into involuntarily to keep the criminals among the Democrats in charge of our government. How can something like that not be illegal.
petunia on October 2, 2008 at 1:39 PM
Hagel is not even a RINO. Should marked him D-NE
lsheldon on October 2, 2008 at 1:39 PM
I am frankly amazed at the lack of will to point fingers. I know it is the typical thing Republicans do they can’t stand to be mean and judgemental. But until they start to be more forceful they will continue to take the blame for things largely done by Democrats. It is a weakness that has to end.
petunia on October 2, 2008 at 1:41 PM
sorry about the double post.
rockmom on October 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM
It’s moot now because Fannie and Freddie are now owned by the government, but this legislation for the first time forced a private corporation to fork over a predetermined amount of its profits for a public purpose. Republicans argued that it was unconstitutional, but Democrats came back and said these are government chartered companies and we can make them do and fund whatever we want. They are really pissed now that the government can refuse to fund this slush fund. That’s why they tried to get it into the bailout bill.
rockmom on October 2, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Well, I either got 3 for 10 or 9 for 10, depending on whether one had to get the individual right or just the party right.
MB4 on October 2, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Barney’s ace in the hole is that he is glib and the media love him. He is always good for a quote and he is always accessible. He seems sincere and lovable, so nobody wants to believe anything bad about him. He has a “plausible” argument that the lazy media who like him anyway are more than happy to parrot and not dig into. He played Anderson Cooper like a fiddle last night, and Cooper really was pressing him on his culpability about Fannie Mae. I guarantee you will not see any other Democrats making any statements about Fannie Mae.
rockmom on October 2, 2008 at 1:49 PM
I’d bet it will make it into the final bill (but neither of us can afford to pay off the bet).
Vashta.Nerada on October 2, 2008 at 1:51 PM
Why isn’t McCain taking advantage of this? Because he has convinced himself that he is a knder, gentler non-partisan and that’s the road to take to the WH.
When we do the autopsy of McCain’s campaign after election day we’ll discover that it’s been dead a long time. The cause of death will be non-partisanship…an always fatal disease.
sdd on October 2, 2008 at 1:56 PM
Nah, it’s dead. The House can’t amend the bill that passed the Senate or it has to go back to the Senate for another vote. What happened here was that the adults (Senate) took this thing over because the children (House) could not get it done. So now the adults have written the bill and the children cannot do anything but vote yes or no, because that’s all they are capable of doing.
rockmom on October 2, 2008 at 2:04 PM
When you write the laws, you can be very nuanced on what is and what is not legal.
Vashta.Nerada on October 2, 2008 at 2:06 PM
If they don’t change the text, I don’t know that they can pass it. I guess we’ll see who can be goaded into changing their votes.
Vashta.Nerada on October 2, 2008 at 2:07 PM
I wondered about that. Is this another one of those ‘we really want to pass this, but. .’ thingys? Another chance for the democrats to set everyone up, and then not pass the thing?
The experts on the hill have to know what will pass and what won’t.
rockhauler on October 2, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Barney Frank’s former boyfriend was Herb Moses a Fannie Mae Executive.
……….gives a whole new meaning to “back door deals”.
try again later on October 2, 2008 at 2:17 PM
By the way, Tom Coburn for President. What a speech.
Vashta.Nerada on October 2, 2008 at 2:18 PM
They are now scared it won’t pass, but go into conference committee to reconcile. At least, that is what I am hearing.
Vashta.Nerada on October 2, 2008 at 2:19 PM
Victor Davis Hanson in NRO just slam dunks it with this quote from the 2005 Fannie and Freddie hearings:
Vashta.Nerada on October 2, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Mr Joe beat me to it.
“I want to roll the dice”
Barney Frank is the first one who should be taken outside and shot dead on the capital steps!
GarandFan on October 2, 2008 at 3:07 PM
Now wait….
I thought I read, heard something that since the senate…uhhmmm ….wait, since the original bill came out of the house, was amended by the senate, and sent back to the house, that the house can’t change anything but only accept or reject the bill.
How does it get into conference?
Since this senate version has tax stuff in it, the bill has to originate in the house, the ‘trick’ was the senate took a pending house bill, deleted everything, then amended it with this bail out crap, and sends it back to the house.
This was a house bill the senate was voting on.
If the thing goes to conference committee, why is the house voting on it?
This whole thing looks ….uh…..like…bovine biomass.
rockhauler on October 2, 2008 at 3:11 PM
The quotes should be a template for every single Republican running for office. Simply run a series of unflattering black and white photos with the quotes and an ominous sounding voice over.
moxie_neanderthal on October 2, 2008 at 4:34 PM
I do have one question. How can a quote be dated:
“Chris Dodd (D-CT), 2/24-5/2004.”
Is it on the 24th? Or the 25th?
SunSword on October 2, 2008 at 8:45 PM
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