Photos: Minnesota Left’s political tolerance
posted at 5:35 pm on October 2, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Tonight, as we prepare for our Debate Party tonight at Trocadero’s, one of the listeners for our radio station AM 1280 The Patriot has to prepare for some hard work cleaning his work van and personal car. He made the mistake of thinking that he could have a bumper sticker showing his support of the station without thugs vandalizing his vehicles. At least he remains in high spirits, as he e-mailed the station with the subject heading, “The Power of a Patriot Bumper Sticker”:
I thought you might find these photos interesting. I’ve attached photos of the way I found my van this morning. Evidently, leaving a car parked on the street with Patriot and McCain bumper stickers is intolerable to Obama supporters. They didn’t remove the sticker from my wife’s Volvo, though. However, it appears that someone in my neighborhood didn’t like it. Luckily, they didn’t use permanent spray paint, just some really annoying stuff that was hard to wash off.
I’ll look forward to the debate this evening.
They took their time in vandalizing the panel van:
They also take the time to spread the love for Al Franken, too:
And they came prepared. They brought both black and white paint:
Now, what kind of people would put this much energy into defacing other people’s property simply because they had Patriot and McCain bumper stickers on one of the cars? Usually, the same kind of people who screech constantly about “tolerance” and the closed-mindedness of Republicans. Fraters Libertas has more.
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tree hugging sister on October 2, 2008 at 6:28 PM
The lines were by Martin Niemoller–you’ll need to scroll down to one of the later paragraphs to see the passage you discussed.
DrMagnolias on October 2, 2008 at 6:28 PM
My only point is this goes on forever against Conservatives. If we were to be caught doing something similiar, the liberals would call it voter intimitation.
Oh wait, by God it is!
Seriously, this is not a prank. It’s voter intimadation. A person I don’t even know told me my McCain (primary time frame) wasn’t a good idea in the neighborhood where I rent a house. I asked him why and he just said it wasn’t a good idea. I left it up and it was just stolen. No damage to my truck or the nice ladies house I rent. So, I’m thankful after deploying in defense of my great nation, they’ll only steal my sign and not damage my rental property. What a country!
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 6:29 PM
How about: “Tora…Tora…Tora”? or “Climb Mt. Sarabachi”
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 2, 2008 at 6:30 PM
With friends like those–who needs enemies. The thing is, this is a terrible commentary on our times. Twenty years ago, I belonged to a circle of friends who would get together about once every two weeks for a giant sitdown seven course dinner with wine, deserts, the whole nine yards. And then, after dinner, we’d retire to the outdoors to enjoy afterdinner drinks, coffee, cigars, cigarettes, or briars for those who indulged, and good conversation–including politics. That group included everyone from archconservative to an avowed Marxist and everyone from atheists and agnostics to Muslims to Jews to Catholics to Mormons to pagans to all different variations of Protestant from Episcopalian to evangelist. Pretty much all races were included at one time or another in our group and we had feminists and nonfeminists. Even though we could be passionate about expressing our views–we were always first and foremost friends and we respected each other. The only rule in our debates we had was that you had to support your position–other than that, few, if any, topics were off limits.
I miss those days.
Matt Helm on October 2, 2008 at 6:30 PM
Please disregard my later post, I didn’t see this one before replying. My apologies.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 6:30 PM
Sometimes I think the city I grew up in and loved has been invaded by the Body Snatchers.
Buy Danish on October 2, 2008 at 6:30 PM
Flyman!
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Difference between cause and effect. Over.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 6:31 PM
:-)
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 6:32 PM
When are conservatives going to get together and beat the living fook out of these hippie nerds? Christ, this is getting old. Guess those militia’s out in the woods were not too crazy after all.
ClassicCon on October 2, 2008 at 6:32 PM
Don’t forget Missouri.
capitalist piglet on October 2, 2008 at 6:33 PM
So the cause for you would be personal harm and damage to your body for someone elses ignorant and yet stupidity to take over for something that really is just an opinion.
What would be your “effect”? I am curious since you are pretty vague.
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 6:34 PM
McCain should pull out one of these photos in the next debate and challenge Obama to go over to the guy’s house and clean off his vehicles.
KCFilms on October 2, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Please see my post on page 1 about my little google search results.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 2, 2008 at 6:35 PM
Mt. Sarabachi? Got something on the brain there, Daddy? You meant Suribachi, I’m almost positive. : )
capitalist piglet on October 2, 2008 at 6:36 PM
Sorry, could you rephrase that, I’m drawing blanks.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 6:36 PM
You said words don’t mean war. I pointed out that sometimes they do.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 2, 2008 at 6:37 PM
I live in Minnesota – the McCain-Palin yardsign lasted two days before someone bent it in half. I was able to straighten it out. Two days later it was stolen.
A useful teaching moment if nothing else, “Son, not all Democrats are criminals, but most criminals are Democrats.”
Steve_Roberts on October 2, 2008 at 6:37 PM
Anyhoo, I have to help clean up before the debate. But the sum total of my exchange with the very nice man in my neighborhood here in sunny Fayetteville NC next to Ft. Bragg and Americas Guard of Honor is because I have my GF in my home with me now, I’m worried to put up another sign. That’s why pranks over signs and bumper stickers aren’t funny. We were safer in Bagram.
It’s the media, stupid!
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 6:37 PM
Ok l;et me talk to you like a two yr old.
If someone is beating the crap out of you for your opinion. What would you do?
There was a cause, what is your “effect”?
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Someone screws with my property over a philosophical dispute – they get to meet my personal friend, Mr Taser. I will then zip-tie them for the authorities arrival.
SkinnerVic on October 2, 2008 at 6:38 PM
I asked the missus not to stick a McCain sticker on the car but she did anyway. I’d rather not risk it: some 20-something goth chick apparently didn’t like our Bush sticker and so raced up alongside, flipped us off (with both kids in the back seat, thanks) and then swerved right in front of us, crazy close. (She had all the requisite anti-Bush stickers on her back window.)
This because we had a Bush/Cheney sticker.
saint kansas on October 2, 2008 at 6:39 PM
Right. Rotten speller and spell check couldn’t fix it. I let it ride. I figured someone would pick it up for me. Thanks.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 2, 2008 at 6:39 PM
No, I said words should not be the cause for war. The phrases that initiated the attack on Pearl and signaled its success was not the cause for war, but an effect of the previous decision to go to war.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 6:40 PM
Angry with me for asking you to clarify?
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 6:41 PM
No … but you can answer the question or keep dodging.. which will it be?
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 6:42 PM
But THE ONE told me “to argue with them and get in their face!” Sing along, everyone:
“We’re gonna spread happiness, we’re gonna spread freedom…”
saint kansas on October 2, 2008 at 6:43 PM
This one has perspective.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 6:43 PM
What if the words are “We have nuclear weapons and we’re coming to wipe you off the map?”
Ronnie on October 2, 2008 at 6:43 PM
I’m not dodging your question, I didn’t understand it, and asked for clarification, and you jump all over my case. Either climb down or go away, I won’t respond to being treated that way.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Very cute, sick and left wing totalitarianism.
May G*d’s fury be upon Ifill and Biden(oise).
May Sarah Palin get even, not mad.
HotAirJosef on October 2, 2008 at 6:46 PM
Answer the damn question. You are dodging.
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 6:46 PM
Are you a Canadian? Perhaps a Brit? No American spells defense with a “c.” Twice.
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Trust, but verify, or something like that. Just because someone threatens nuclear war, doesn’t mean they 1. Have nukes, 2. Can actually deliver them here, 3. Have the deathwish to actually carry it out. (See DPRK and Chinese Generals over the years.)
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Most people will answer a question concerning an a** kicking too…. either you are getting your butt kicked or not.
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 6:50 PM
Thank you ever so much for taking the time to provide that link. It’s exactly what I was looking for. For others, I’d asked for the following:
http://forerunner.com/champion/X0006_5._Martin_Niemller.html
“First, they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.”
BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 6:50 PM
On my recent trip through the DC area, I had this happen several times. The drivers up there are usually bad anyway, but every Obama’d/anti-Bush car was twice as bad. Young people today are so polite – good thing it was raining, else my kids would have seen such lovely hand gestures.
Anna on October 2, 2008 at 6:51 PM
Give me a break. You can answer on a Nuke but you can’t answer if you are getting you butt handed to you via something you said?
Lost cause… No wonder the world is obama nuts.
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 6:51 PM
You might but you’re not sure? Sheesh.
Belatedly, I’m going to follow the Rush Limbaugh Rule which says not to argue with a fool.
Buy Danish on October 2, 2008 at 6:51 PM
I think my DNA is showing.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 6:51 PM
You have a strange definition for the word “friends”.
Guardian on October 2, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Let’s put it this way, Trailboss.
You say words shouldn’t “be the cause for war”. Guess what, sometimes they are. That’s life. It’s not fair. Get over it.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Yup. Americans can somehow sniff out foreigner weenies. Hey Upanik…you serious about that cookbook? BTW…I cook – like a chef.
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 6:52 PM
Do what I did – spend about $150 for a motion activated day/night suveillance camera (Stealth Cam I430 IR) and get set up to catch the criminals in the act.
ksm on October 2, 2008 at 6:53 PM
Change we can believe in.
Dr B on October 2, 2008 at 6:53 PM
Don’t read the post quite so literally, or perhaps I should be more precise. Sheesh.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 6:54 PM
Canadian or Brit TB?
Worked with both in OEF and OIF. Fierce soldiers and officers.
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 6:54 PM
Or your maple leaf. :-) Thanks for playing.
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 6:54 PM
This means war!!!!!!
*pukes*
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 6:55 PM
Hmmm, apparently we are having an election soon here in Canada soon as well. But seeing as how there hasn’t been of this type of asinine behaviour, I now have to wonder…
(Yes, we do spell defence with a c, I wouldn’t have even noticed if it wasn’t pointed out. Too funny)
pcbedamned on October 2, 2008 at 6:55 PM
Would you prefer we argue with you and get in your face?
“Servin’ it up Obama’s way.”
saint kansas on October 2, 2008 at 6:56 PM
…what do you expect…look whom they’re supporting…they obviously don’t have much judgment, so why expect that they’ll have much maturity?
…same as when they glued keys down and trashed offices back post inauguration in 2001.
…maybe out grandchildren will finally see this sort of crap reported on the evening news…I don’t hold out hope of seeing it in my lifetime….
Puritan1648 on October 2, 2008 at 6:56 PM
The same kind of people that want guns banned because if they tried doing what they really want to do to the opposition, while said opposition is still armed, they’d be dead.
SuperCool on October 2, 2008 at 6:57 PM
I’m gonna be honest with you. If someone came up and threatened me, and I was appropriately equipped, they wouldn’t be walking away… at the very least without help, at most not at all.
If someone threatened to nuke my country, I’d say, “You first.” Then do so.
I don’t take crap from these kinds of people. Sorry if that offends you.
Texan proud, born and raised.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 6:58 PM
heck yeah I am serious about a cook book. But it will be Alaskan… which you could put mix items or instead of moose use buffalo.. you know.
Why? I have been thinking about it for a year or so now.
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Granted. Difference of opinion I guess. To each his own.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 2, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Uh, “trust but verify” usually refers to disarmament, not an imminent attack. Anyway, if someone is lying about their intent to kill me, and they die as a result of my response, that’s their problem. If you’re unsure, try running across the White House lawn with a box of cookies but claim you have a bomb. Make sure to have a friend take a camera so we can all see them “trust but verify” your ass.
Ronnie on October 2, 2008 at 7:00 PM
You behaved like this in high school? You thought it was teasing? And now you would have us think that this behavior is okay, because you did worse? Is that really your position?
DrMagnolias on October 2, 2008 at 7:01 PM
Ok guys, before this gets outta hand. My DNA is English and Welsh. My ancestors came to the US in 1840. I’m what, 4th or 5th generation.
I use a ‘c’ because I’ve been reading way too much military history by Brits. I’m infected. Don’t get yer knickers in a twist. :)
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 7:01 PM
Today may not be our “Tora, Tora, Tora” moment, but I’m not sure we haven’t reached the “East wind — rain” stage.
The righteous viciousness of Osama Obama’s
disciplesthugs is more worrisome every day. If he gets into the White House, things will get very bleak indeed for those who dare to dissent.MrScribbler on October 2, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Doesn’t offend me. Just don’t see the reason for shooting someone because they offend you.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 7:03 PM
They must’ve learned the tricks from Al Franken.
Mcguyver on October 2, 2008 at 7:03 PM
This is the reason I haven’t put a political sticker on my car since Duncan Hunter withdrew from the race, (lucky for me no one knew who he was, even tho we live near his district).
When we took our son up to UCSB, (another left-wing bastion) we saw Obama stickers galore. It was about 5-6 Os to 1 Macs. Everytime I saw them I bowed as if chanting: O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma. They couldn’t hear me, but they got the drift.
I’m surprised that this hasn’t happened more…but we have more than 30 days to go. I bet that this will be a trend.
Christine on October 2, 2008 at 7:04 PM
I moved to Silicon Valley recently. If you have anything but an Obama sticker on your vehicle, prepare to have it keyed, at the least.
Buford Gooch on October 2, 2008 at 7:05 PM
still a liberal whiner.
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Just for the visual…(So I read your answer, scratch my head, and then ask..)
You mean you’re not Canadian?
:-)
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 7:06 PM
Of course. And I’m Princess Marie of Romania.
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 7:06 PM
I said threaten.
Offended, I shrug off until it gets violent. I consider the above violent. That’s when I get the cops involved.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 7:06 PM
manly you didn’t answer my question.
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 7:07 PM
Been to BC, once. Before the new passport requirements.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 7:08 PM
Nice to meet you, your highness.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 7:09 PM
*In my best frenchy frenchman accent*:
“John has a long mustache…John has a long mustache”!
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 2, 2008 at 7:09 PM
It’c still political TB and not a prank.
It’c voter intimidation.
But in defence of your opinion, I’d cay if you can handle the cleanup, (if it can be cimly cleaned off), good for you not getting upcet.
Back to cleaning.
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Any time, Mr. Sam. :)
DrMagnolias on October 2, 2008 at 7:10 PM
I’m a freelance writer and a damned good one. If you are interested, let me know: angelodomini@aol.com
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 7:11 PM
I misunderstood, then. No difference between yours and my reaction to actual threat of harm.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 7:11 PM
The pleasure is all mine, Mr. Canuck.
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Uh huh. And I read Dr. Seuss all the time.
Doesn’t mean all of my sentences rhyme.
Ronnie on October 2, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Hope we never ever have to go back and bail them out again. I don’t see Patton anywhere.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 7:13 PM
I’d love to see the reaction by these vandalizing fascists as I let my two, 80+ pound AMERICAN Pit Bull Terriers out to see what was going on.
Full disclosure: I won’t put a sticker, not even a God Bless America sticker, on my beloved vehicle for fear of this exact thing happening. Even in a fairly conservative area of Kalifornia.
My bro lives in SF, is an avowed liberal, but had the audacity to purchase himself an SUV. It was promptly keyed from front to back, both sides, with an obvious amount of energy and hatred. Yes, just because it’s an SUV in NanFranSicko, where it’s okay to crap on people’s doorsteps but not to drive anything but a Prius.
NTWR on October 2, 2008 at 7:13 PM
Whatever floatc yer boat there, Micter Rash.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 7:14 PM
RAAAAAAAACCCCCCIIIISSSSSTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL! The van is white and that would be asking THE ONE to perform manual labor and to date HE DOES NOT DO MANUAL LABOR, that is too much of a flashback to when Obama’s people were ……………. Well anyway, that would mean a Black man was washing a white van and that is just too, too racially charged!
I will be so glad when things go back to normal.
freeus on October 2, 2008 at 7:15 PM
ROTFLMFAO
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 7:15 PM
Thanks, eh!
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 7:15 PM
Seems I misunderstood as well. No foul?
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 7:16 PM
My car was keyed in ‘04 because of a “W” sticker on my SUV. Nothing nearly as bad as this example, and they even left a note “Bush is a war monger”
Idiots.
JetBoy on October 2, 2008 at 7:16 PM
In defense of trailboss’s “c’s,” I adopt a random British accent without thinking about it for a few hours after watching Dr. Who. It happens to the best of us. : )
Anna on October 2, 2008 at 7:16 PM
True. But also irrelevant. Canucks, Brits, Kiwis and Aussies spell defense with a “c.” Dead giveaway.
ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 7:16 PM
Nah, they only do this stuff in the dark of night or in large crowds of like-minded while wearing bandannas over their faces. A cowardly lot who would tuck tail and run if ever caught alone and called on their lameness.
NTWR on October 2, 2008 at 7:16 PM
Copy that.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 7:17 PM
I will not eat Obama’s Ham,
I will not take Obama’s lamb,
I can not see Obama’s eyes,
I do not appreciate Obama’s lies.
I will not eat green egs and ham,
I will not eat them Sam I am!
upinak on October 2, 2008 at 7:17 PM
No foul.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 7:18 PM
Then, do you also say “Froaderick”?
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 7:19 PM
Just a little fun, not at all unlike Kristallnacht. Not like it could lead to anything bad.
stonemeister on October 2, 2008 at 7:20 PM
I believe I was making that point (with a bit of mocking).
Ronnie on October 2, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Sorry for jumping OT-
Red State is on top of the Ohio early voting scam.
This is the most disturbing interview I have ever heard.
Alarms need to be sounded on this and investigations need to begin NOW.
Damiano on October 2, 2008 at 7:21 PM
Aye, lass, it does.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 7:22 PM
I’m up here by Sactown, I get “flipped off” a lot with my McCain/Palin Stickers on the inside of my car windows.
Yesterday, I drove to the RNC HQ in Sac and picked up a couple of buttons to put on my shirt, just to watch the leftys heads explode when they see it.
I can take care of myself for a 59 yr. old Vet.
Just taking Bambis advise and “getting in their faces” is all.
Over.
1GooDDaDDy on October 2, 2008 at 7:24 PM
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