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Palin-Biden debate chat and commentary!

posted at 8:00 pm on October 2, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Tonight, Sarah Palin and Joe Biden square off at 9 pm ET for the only Vice Presidential debate for this election. Palin needs to convince American voters that she is up to the task of the second-highest position in the executive branch, while Biden has to avoid making any major gaffes that will force the national media to report them.

Can she do it? The Examiner’s Mark Tapscott predicts that Palin will prevail:

Call me a cockeyed optimist or a fool or whatever, but I predict Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin will be the clear winner over Sen. Joe Biden in tonight’s debate between the vice-presidential nominees. Not because I think she’s a master debater – though she clearly has been underestimated in this department before – but because she possesses the one qualification nobody else on either ticket has – She’s not part of the Washington crowd.

I’m somewhat less sanguine than Mark, but willing to be proven wrong. I think both candidates will do well tonight. Biden’s already been through more than a dozen of these in this cycle alone, and he hasn’t made a serious mistake in any of them. His gaffes come in less-guarded moments. Don’t expect anything but a competent and sharp performance from Biden.

Palin will do very well indeed, and again the low expectations from recent media coverage will make it look even better. I don’t expect her to top Biden, but she really doesn’t need to do that anyway. If she comes across as confident, assertive, honest, and engaged, she will do fine — and in this debate the tie would be seen as a huge win for Palin.

I’ll be at Trocadero’s tonight, at the party for AM 1280 The Patriot, and won’t be live-blogging.  We will have a panel discussion before and after the debate, and I may try to broadcast through Ustream for the event.  Let’s see how that works, but don’t miss the live chat room!  Jazz Shaw of The Moderate Voice moderates the chat, and he does a great job riding herd on the conversation.  Be sure to register at Ustream to participate in our raucous live-chat sessions. (And if the log-in prompt doesn’t come up in the chat box below, use this link instead.)

See you at the debate!


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Wow–nice slam-dunk on McClellan. Biden looked like he was trying to decide whether to lie about what the general actually said after her response. He did, and it was obvious.

Athanasius on October 2, 2008 at 10:02 PM

Palin is doing very well considering that she has to defend McCain (and Bush to some degree) and that Biden has been involved in Foreign Policy for decades and she only for a few weeks. Unfortunately this debate will probably not be graded allowing for that.

MB4 on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Bosniacs???

hoosiermama on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

DID HE JUST SAY BOSNIACKS?

jaboba on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

How many invasions are the democrats planning? Pakistan? Afghanistan? Darfur?

Blake on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Holy crap! That guy is just making sh*t up as he goes.

Kat_Mo on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

You naysayers need to lighten up here, she’s slapping Biden around like Joan Crawford on a stepchild and he’s losing his mind.

This is leaps and bounds better than anyone ever thought.

Pcoop on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Is Biden admitting he was hoodwinked to support the Iraq war?!?!

electric-rascal on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

OMG, he’s getting PISSED….

reshas1 on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Obama’s biting his nails right now!

“Stay cool Joe!”

Heh

pugwriter on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Was it McClellan? I thought it was McKiernan…

WisCon on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

God, what was she thinking making that Surge comment? She’s also acting pretty condescending too, kinda make it hard for her to get sympathy like this.

Typhonsentra on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

A Bosniac is a Bosnian in a Pontiac.

Mark1971 on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Sarah has the grin thing going. Biden is losing and she smells blood…

Nelsa on October 2, 2008 at 9:55 PM

All Joe can smell is pheromones and steel wafting from Sarah’s side of the stage.

Who keeps sighing? It’s not Biden or Sarah. Must be Gwen- who is doing well keeping her bias to herself.

NightmareOnKStreet on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

How many airraids are there in Darfur-no fly zone?

Nelsa on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Soooooooo good. Outsider.

Ronnie on October 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM

hahaha. I was for it before I was against it. Hahahah.

Blake on October 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM

Does anyone else find it ridiculous that Biden is only citing bits and pieces of McCain’s work?

Ryan Gandy on October 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM

BOOM BOOM

THE KILL SHOT!

AWESOME!!!!

YEAH BABY!!!!!

WisCon on October 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM

Palin taking Biden to woodshed on the war! YESSSSS!!!

electric-rascal on October 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM

He sure ISN”T talking about Obama, talking more about John McCain.

reshas1 on October 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM

Oh..Sarah…she’s so nice while she’s telling him he’s a liar.

Kat_Mo on October 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM

I love it! Joe is upset and he looks it!

CCRWM on October 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM

No-one will remember the fine points but they damn sure will remember Sarah smilin and makin points and OBiden angry, hostile, he gave her a look that could kill he better hope she doesn’t walk over there and gut his ass with a smile of course.

dhunter on October 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM

“And it WAS a war resolution!” Go Sarah

NightmareOnKStreet on October 2, 2008 at 10:04 PM

The race is on!

Saltysam on October 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM

DOES BOSNIACKS COUNTS AS A GAFFE?

jaboba on October 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Somebody mentioned before that Biden seemed to be getting the last word on every question, so I started watching for it. He has, most of the time. I’ll bet Ifill doesn’t even know what she’s doing.

Good come-back on Iraq: “for it before he was against it.” Shades of Lurch!

Athanasius on October 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Palin clicking now… Biden sounds off balance.

electric-rascal on October 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM

wow….Sarah just kicked Joe’s ass on Darfur. Whodda thunk it.

ex-Democrat on October 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM

State divestment in Sudan! Great one!!!

Steve Z on October 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Yeah Bosnia is hardly, along with Kosovo something donks need to remind people of…..she should have the balls to ask Scranton why Beijing Billy didn’t scuff AQ up in Mog’93

sven10077 on October 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Why, why, why does no one call BS on the LIES about the Lugar-Obama amendment.

It had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the proliferation of nuclear weapons.

It was about extending a previous nuclear non-proliferation regime (Nunn-Lugar) to conventional weapons as well.

It’s a perfectly respectable piece of legislation.

But they are lying about what it is.

Does Barack Obama not know what the bill he personally consponsored says???

ClintACK on October 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Sounds like Iraq crossed Joe’s line.

Ronnie on October 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Unfortunately this debate will probably not be graded allowing for that.

MB4 on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Maybe… but she won’t lose any support from her performance and, in my opinion, she stands to help gain some. This should be sufficient for all those limp-d*cks that jumped off the Palin wagon so quickly to catch up and get back on.

CC

CapedConservative on October 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM

So, we are going to send jets to attack janjiweeds on camels?

Blake on October 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM

How does Palin do it…she goes in for the kill with a smile…

CCRWM on October 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Hey Joe, Isn’t gassing your own people kinda like genocide?

Sparky on October 2, 2008 at 10:06 PM

A Bosniac is a Bosnian in a Pontiac.

Mark1971 on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM


ROTFLMAO!!!!

NightmareOnKStreet on October 2, 2008 at 10:06 PM

He never supported McCain’s strategy on the war?

Yeah . . . right.

Ryan Gandy on October 2, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Way to go Sarah!

Biden is a joke in so many ways.

congratulations_universe on October 2, 2008 at 10:06 PM

after his “country engages in genocide” she needs to mention the 300k bodies in mass graves in iraq, the marsh arabs, the kurds.

chasdal on October 2, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Bosniac is not a gaffe. Lots of commentators call the inhabitant of Bosnia Bosniacs.

Steve Z on October 2, 2008 at 10:06 PM

I believe the estimate was at the minimum 10-15 years.

Blake on October 2, 2008 at 10:06 PM

Lines to be crossed is what?

Oh man, this intervention talk is going to get him destroyed! LOL

He’s just making it up as he goes!

WisCon on October 2, 2008 at 10:06 PM

WOULDN’T IT BE GREAT IF SHE SAID “THERE YOU GO AGAIN”?

jaboba on October 2, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Poor joe he can,t heip it he was born with a lib foot in his mouth

thmcbb on October 2, 2008 at 10:07 PM

The capacity to go into Sudan? What a novel idea. We already have two war fronts you dumb a$$!

Kat_Mo on October 2, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Palin is doing very well considering that she has to defend McCain (and Bush to some degree) and that Biden has been involved in foreign policy for decades and she only for a few weeks. Unfortunately this debate will probably not be graded on the curve allowing for that.

MB4 on October 2, 2008 at 10:07 PM

wtf is Joe talking about? McCain stood alone about Iraq.

Eff you Joe…..JUST BLOW ALREADY….wait. Don’t. lol

ex-Democrat on October 2, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Atta girl. Call out the MSM to do THEIR JOB!!

pcbedamned on October 2, 2008 at 10:07 PM

The most disappointing thing about this debate and the last one is that Obama’s silly and empty foreign policy is getting treated as if it was something to take seriously.

theregoestheneighborhood on October 2, 2008 at 10:07 PM

10 bucks that Bosniacs will be the first thing Olberdouche whines about.

Speedwagon82 on October 2, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Nice way to call him a liar Sarah, you rock, the pundits will fact check tomorrow!

dhunter on October 2, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Holy crap! is she saying McCain is going to die?

Kat_Mo on October 2, 2008 at 10:07 PM

oh gawd! the ‘heartbeat away’ question.

Over30 on October 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Who approved that freaking question?

Kat_Mo on October 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM

I think that now that the donks are so much in favor of war, there needs to be special brigades: The Kos Kidz Brigade; The DUmmie Brigade. Enlist now, moonbats!

Blake on October 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Politics out of the War. From those of us who have served, it is what we absolutely want to hear.

RedinPDRM on October 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM

WHAT??

WisCon on October 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Hey Joe – I’m middle class and the only screwing over that I’ve got is a federal government that is massive, bloated, intrusive and ineffective!

electric-rascal on October 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM

here it comes…. What Sarah would do.

CC

CapedConservative on October 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM

CC

you got your rose-colored glasses on pretty snug. she started off slow and unsteady. but its better to be up late than be up early. obviously people will remember a strong finish better than a shaky start. kinda like a pitcher who gives up a few runs in the 1st inning but then shuts them down after that. its more important that she has settled in and is gigging him now. he is starting to sound irritated and coming across as an ass, but i stand by my comments earlier.

chasdal on October 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Somehow it seems that Biden knews that question was coming. Dont ya think?

Nelsa on October 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Would they stop with this heartbeat away from the presidency stuff, as though its some sort of indictment against Palin? Its getting annoying.

Biden is also a heartbeat away from the presidency, and if Obama meets the business end of a 30.06 we’ll have that moron in office.

Ryan Gandy on October 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM

I guarantee you no Veep debate ever had this question asked them….Gwen asking to try to trip up Palin and her “experience”…..well, KICK THAT BIASED B*TCH’S ASS GOVERNOR!

Let’s roll….I’m getting steamed up…I need to punch a hippy! :)

ex-Democrat on October 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM

If Obama became President and passed away, Biden would be an improvement.

Steve Z on October 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Obama doctrine = go limp like a wimp = Biden would do same

electric-rascal on October 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Since 1932? Has Joe been voting that long?

Kat_Mo on October 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Bitch slapped him -

Wait till tomorrow when they play the tapes of what YOU REALLY SAID!

iam7545 on October 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM

chasdal on October 2, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Must be something about astroturf that makes their tv’s tune to Green Acres….

CC

CapedConservative on October 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Finally… corruption in Washington mentioned by Palin!

electric-rascal on October 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM

uh, are the troops completely out of Bosnia?

joeinmo on October 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM

YESSSSSSSSSSSS! Government get out of my way!!!!!!!!!!!!

electric-rascal on October 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Ohh…she’s on the roll…government is not your friend.

Kat_Mo on October 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM

God, what was she thinking making that Surge comment? She’s also acting pretty condescending too, kinda make it hard for her to get sympathy like this.

Typhonsentra on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

We all know what a big fan you are.

capitalist piglet on October 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Well, I like her even more…..what can I say.

ex-Democrat on October 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM

ex-Democrat on October 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Wrong-Britt Hume asked Quayle that question in 1988 and Quayle blew it.

Nelsa on October 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM

“… check my opinions at the door” good line, she has shown how biden was at odds w/ obama about everything but then changed it all to be his VP candidate where her and mccain can disagree like adults.

chasdal on October 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Stand Up Stand Up Chuck!

Scranton getting the last word is not an advantage he is abolut two topics away from full blows “Wile E Biden Supra Genius Mode”….when that happens he’s toast she is kicking his head in.

sven10077 on October 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM

I gotta say, I love her attitude and confidence.

WisCon on October 2, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Been to a Home Depot lately, Joe? Won’t find any hair plugs there…

TeeDee on October 2, 2008 at 10:11 PM

I’ve never seen Joe at Home Depot.

tballard on October 2, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Go to Delaware where they have no sales tax, etc?

Joe, how come we can’t get that for everybody in the US?

Kat_Mo on October 2, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Palin better interrupt moderator to rebut – stick it in Biden’s face!!

electric-rascal on October 2, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Who the fuck hangs out at Home Depot?

Typhonsentra on October 2, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Mmmmm Scranton.

Ronnie on October 2, 2008 at 10:11 PM

ex-Democrat on October 2, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Wrong-Britt Hume asked Quayle that question in 1988 and Quayle blew it.

Nelsa on October 2, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Oh, yeah, I’m sure Biden spends a lot of time at Home Depot.

FloatingRock on October 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM

“Home Depot where I spend lots of time?!”

LMFAO!

Jaibones on October 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM

She needs to say that she’s committed to WINNING the war, not ENDING the war. Where in the constitution does it say that it’s the federal government’s job to fund a college education?

RedinPDRM on October 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM

The one word biden and obama will not say with Iraq – Victory.

What a treasonous bunch

Colonel_prop on October 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM

SHE SAID THERE YOU GO AGAIN THAT WAS GREAT

jaboba on October 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Typhonsentra on October 2, 2008 at 10:03 PM

Please Do Not Feed the Trolls

/zookeeper

Wait. Scranton! Drink!

ex-Democrat on October 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Well, once again tried the Powerline forum and once again the thing crashed mid way through the debate…

I see at least 4 bits of bias on the part of the moderator…they all revolve around subject changes…Whenever Palin has a strong argument…Biden gets a rebuttal. When Biden makes a strong point, Palin gets a subject change…

JIMV on October 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Say it ain’t so Joe! There ya go again!

Kat_Mo on October 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM

What McCain has done different from Bush?

The surge, for one!!!

Steve Z on October 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Say it ain’t so Joe!

Zing!

WisCon on October 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM

With every shit-eating grin you see on Biden, you know he’s thinking “that bitch!”

Pcoop on October 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM

“There you go again.” Heh.

holygoat on October 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM

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