Open thread: Armageddon
posted at 8:27 pm on October 2, 2008 by Allahpundit
A few people have e-mailed to say that the livestream in Ed’s open thread complicates comment discussion by slowing refresh times, so here’s a no-frills alternative. Take your pick.
While we wait for the main event, “enjoy” the last installment in her series with Couric. They saved a doozy for the finale.
Game face!
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Rove needs to write these factual errors up for a WSJ editorial tomorrow!
flyboy777 on October 2, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Exactly. Frankly – never heard of him. I googled and got “McKiernan”. Still never heard of him.
Jaibones on October 2, 2008 at 11:28 PM
I’ll go back too, (I always watch the Fox rerun) but I don’t think you’re incorrect. I just don’t think that was her whole answer.
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Gee, thanks Jaibones, I always wanted the whole floor to myself. I really only have one more cup of ‘whine’…
Calling everyone else out as ‘SissyMary’s’ was a bit harsh.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 11:28 PM
See, I meet the guy during the Aviation Brief when the 101 replaced us and I couldn’t even spell his name.
On MSNBC, I noticed MadCow did hit it but of course skipped the fact Joe didn’t know.
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 11:30 PM
who’s this ultra fug chick on fox?
anna on October 2, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Who is the curly headed bitch on Fox?
carbon_footprint on October 2, 2008 at 11:31 PM
TB, Follow up question is then who did you want before McCain picked the good Governor? If you don’t mind?
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Mitt. 100%. Disappointment dies hard.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Sean is slammin this chick
tee hee
Gracelynn on October 2, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Who is the ugly woman on H&C and I am not talking about Colmes?
carbon_footprint on October 2, 2008 at 11:34 PM
i wanted mitt too. but i wanted him at the top of the ticket. giuliani as vp.
anna on October 2, 2008 at 11:34 PM
she is a rep from florida and doesn’t even know anything about tax revenue.
anna on October 2, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Look, the plain fact is Palin won this debate on both substance and style. The ones who want to say Biden won ‘on points’ are missing everything about national debates. That is, the candidate who ‘connects’ with the average voter, makes that grasp-in-grasp connection is always the clear winner.
Sarah Palin is a hero to me. A true American hero. Why? Because she’s taken the hardest hits of any top level candidate in any election season with a smile on her face and then when push comes to shove, when the chips are down, she has the gumption to say that the Democrats plan in Iraq is ‘The white flag of surrender’. There is no other way to look at this!
JonPrichard on October 2, 2008 at 11:35 PM
morris compares palin to reagan. he is in love.
anna on October 2, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Would’a could’a should’a. I think Palin will be a future force in national politics. I fear Mitt may have missed his chance.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 11:36 PM
hahahaha morris says biden looked like he was on downers. bwah!
anna on October 2, 2008 at 11:36 PM
yeah i think mitt said he won’t run again.
anna on October 2, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Hannity lambasted that beeyaatch. She doesn’t know squat about taxes, or Obama.
dugan on October 2, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Dude, this is amazing. The GF and me too. I was hoping he’d be trhe top. I said, as did my wonkette that McCain will absolutely go with him as VP. I heard on the golfcourse from my very conservative democratic friends wife via blackberry it was Palin. Added strokes to my game. (Look, that was a lie, I suck at golf) But, I have learned to love that woman. Not in the biblical sense, but if she came keep it up, I think it’ll work.
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Morris
You go on Colmes.
Gracelynn on October 2, 2008 at 11:38 PM
“she can”
Geez
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 11:38 PM
crappers, morris is beating the living daylights out of colmes. to the point of rudeness though.
anna on October 2, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Dick Morris smacking down Colmes!!!!!!!!!!
carbon_footprint on October 2, 2008 at 11:38 PM
BS you eeyors.
Palin/Romney 12
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Colmes gets bitch-slapped by Dick Morris. Ouch!!!!!
dugan on October 2, 2008 at 11:39 PM
First Rove Now Morris
Keep slapin Colmes. Awesome
Gracelynn on October 2, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Dick Morris with the beat down on Skeletor!! very funny
james23 on October 2, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Colmes – Bitch slapped by Morris!!!!!!!!!
dugan on October 2, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Dick Morris b**** slapping Alan Combs!
red131 on October 2, 2008 at 11:40 PM
I don’t doubt her future. It’s the present I’m not comfortable with.
I don’t pine for Mitt, but when you get a taste of real live ability and character, it’s hard to settle for less.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 11:41 PM
So you’re not opposed to a run in 4 as her VP. McCain will not take a second term unless he is in great health and he does something so remarkable it’s MSM proof.
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Very well said. I’m with you. She is truly a clutch performer.
mikeyboss on October 2, 2008 at 11:43 PM
“who did you want before McCain picked the good Governor”?
Reality.
SaintOlaf on October 2, 2008 at 11:44 PM
anna on October 2, 2008 at 11:37 PM
This is going to sound stupid but I wish Mitt would move to Michigan and run for governor. Those poor folks aren’t smart enough to stop voting for Democrats but maybe the Romney name would move them from the addiction.
Cindy Munford on October 2, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Not at all. I’m not opposed to her per se, it’s the timing.
I hope McCain survives his first ok. I wouldn’t want Palin to have to step in before she’s ready.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 11:47 PM
God, the one site that still drives me nuts is the AOL Straw Poll. McCain won again this last week 60-40 and the last time I saw it was close to a half mill in votes.
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 11:47 PM
interesting thought. lord knows they could use his economic expertise.
anna on October 2, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Religious Bigot. There’s your reality, Solaf.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 11:48 PM
anna on October 2, 2008 at 11:48 PM
That was my thinking and since his dad was governor and well loved he may be more readily embraced. I feel so bad for them.
Cindy Munford on October 2, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Stick with the RCP Poll Average. It has demonstrated predictive merit. All the other polls are just someone pickin’ their nose. The RCP Average is the real booger.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Fair enough. Very candid you are.
At any rate, the wonkette of the house was more intuned to the tenor of the debate than me. She actually was excited by the time I got back from golfing that day. Tonight though, it’s a twofer because she isn’t POed at all any more. She thought Palin did good from the start. I’d say she still took a few to get out of the blocks. Biden did come out early very well.
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Cindy, I’d bet cabinet if McCain/Palin takes it.
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Wow. Dick Morris just took Alan Colmes behind the woodshed on national TV!
Morris Quote: “You’re incredible, Alan. Is it that you can’t think or is it that you only know how to read those talking points?”
That was the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen!
rvastar on October 2, 2008 at 11:53 PM
I said it with a wink. You missed the wink.
Jaibones on October 2, 2008 at 11:53 PM
My daughter called from college to ask what I thought, she was pretty confused. I told her to watch it again online, and not depend on my reaction. She’s smart enough to think for herself. Sounds like your wonkette.
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 11:55 PM
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/10/02/hot-seat-will-palin-drop-out/
In my best Yoda voice. Andrew Sullivan, clairvoyant he is!
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 11:55 PM
I did. ;)
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 11:55 PM
I’m from St. Louis. I voted for Talent. But let me say how profoundly sorry I am we in Missouri unleashed Claire McCaskill on all of you.
She is our village idiot.
stlpct on October 2, 2008 at 11:58 PM
“Trailboss” is a dem troll.
SaintOlaf on October 2, 2008 at 11:58 PM
She was confused? That confirms it then. Both candidates did their job!
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Here’s the thing: just like when McCain got the Red State Update endorsement (“Fuc* it, McCain…”), and people all over here wanted to scream about Huck and Mitt and Ron Paul, and kill people and blow things up – it was all crap. Once we pick someone, it’s just an us vs them sort of thing.
So here we are, and we can talk about whether Dolly throwing out all that populist crap and Gorebal crap is actually conservatism or not, sure we can.
But just like you did later, we need to put our cards on the table first, I think. There is not one tiny weakness that the Governor has, that those two Dem Fairies don’t have in Spades, if you’ll pardon the expression. So we can say that beating up Wall Street is kind of stupid, but guess what? Not only are the Donks slaughtering them and promising to gut their taxable income, but they’re also getting the lion’s share of Wall Street money for the campaign!
Not sure what my point was.
Never mind. Fuc* Wall Street…
Jaibones on October 2, 2008 at 11:59 PM
‘dem trolls, ‘dem trolls, dem stinky trolls!
trailboss on October 2, 2008 at 11:59 PM
hawkdriver on October 2, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Is that from tonight? Greta said a lot of the college kids were excited about Gov. Palin. Sen. Obama isn’t going to like that, time to have a free concert.
Cindy Munford on October 3, 2008 at 12:00 AM
She’s a Bosniak, Bosniak on the floor.
And she’s dancing like she’s never danced before.
Dump the bucket!
Buck Turgidson on October 3, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Wow! Nearly 3000 comments between this thread and Ed’s. It’s too bad, though understandable, people aren’t this enthused by the top of the ticket….
FloatingRock on October 3, 2008 at 12:00 AM
My girl’s a partisan, if not particularly conservative. Her flaming lib roommate was astonished to find out what a prick Greasy Joe is. Heh.
Jaibones on October 3, 2008 at 12:01 AM
St O. Respectfully, I don’t think so. And if this is the best a dem troll can irritate an uber-conservative old soldier like me, he isn’t a very good troll.
hawkdriver on October 3, 2008 at 12:01 AM
She took a knife and gutted Biden on stage and his bowels fell out for all to see. Then she wiped away the blood from her knife with a smile, turned back to ol Joe who stood with that “deer in the spotlight look” and said, “You’re a nice man Joe and I respect you.”
JellyToast on October 3, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Indeed!
trailboss on October 3, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Over a million texted votes to Hannity and Colmes…
PALIN 86 %
Biden 12 %
pambi on October 3, 2008 at 12:02 AM
That’s Trail Bosses kid but yeah.
hawkdriver on October 3, 2008 at 12:02 AM
I think inside the Beltway folks are going to think that Sen. Biden won because he spews all that senate stuff and they love that. It would be nice if someone of them would eat their words when his statements are fact checked.
Cindy Munford on October 3, 2008 at 12:02 AM
hawkdriver on October 3, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Sorry, I meant the Sullivan thing.
Cindy Munford on October 3, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Wait! My retirement is sitting there, don’t completely fush it!
trailboss on October 3, 2008 at 12:03 AM
No sheist, FARK Wall street. those goddamn greedy bastards will fark us all given a chance. I wanna see blood in the streets and bodies hanging from the gibbet!
/goddamn thAT WAS A GOOD BOTTLE OF ZIN
/sorry Lord
Calm Before the Storm on October 3, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Crap, I meant ‘fusk’ it. hawk.
trailboss on October 3, 2008 at 12:05 AM
I’ll bet Piper is damn proud of Mom tonite!!
I know I am!!
Calm Before the Storm on October 3, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Hey Allah, you goddman shitstirrer. Get the hell over here. I wanna give ya a kissss.
Calm Before the Storm on October 3, 2008 at 12:06 AM
I’m going to get tomatoes thrown at me now but I think we as conservatives need to admit one thing. (And this is where you’ll see a difference from liberal leaning sites) All of us who expressed concerns about Gwen Ifill should probably eat some crow. She was possibly the best, most fair and engaging moderator I’ve seen in a long time.
(bows head sheepishly)
hawkdriver on October 3, 2008 at 12:07 AM
No, that hack obviously wanted it to effect tonight but it was a poll started on the first I believe.
hawkdriver on October 3, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Hey, fusk it. That works doesn’t it.
hawkdriver on October 3, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Bidens lies;
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/10/02/reactions-to-the-vp-debate/#more-9646
christene on October 3, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Ya but she shoulda told people. You know? That was bull. Good thing peeps like Michelle called her out!
Amen to that brothers and sisters.
Calm Before the Storm on October 3, 2008 at 12:10 AM
hawkdriver on October 3, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Well then he feels stupid. Again.
Cindy Munford on October 3, 2008 at 12:10 AM
You’re not wrong. I’m just talking with hind-sight.
hawkdriver on October 3, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Just got to a computer after going to a debate watching party that there was no “politic” way of avoiding. All participants agreed that Sarah won hands down, Ifell was the model moderator (impartial therefore invisible) and Biden was “approachable enough”. (I thought he looked lumpish and toothy, but what would I think. I’m a partisan).
RushBaby on October 3, 2008 at 12:12 AM
hawkdriver on October 3, 2008 at 12:07 AM
I emailed the Commission and said that I thought Ms. Ifil should have to acknowledge the book at the beginning of the debate and I don’t think that happened. I am pretty sure that all the hoopla caused a little attitude adjustment. We will never know for sure.
Cindy Munford on October 3, 2008 at 12:14 AM
(bows head sheepishly)
hawkdriver on October 3, 2008 at 12:07 AM
I must gloat! I defended Ifill yesterday. She did okay.
It was actually the most civil debate I’ve seen this cycle.
trailboss on October 3, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Plus, I’ve got a sneaking suspicion, she not to keen on the release date she originally picked now after tonight. As I understand, it wasn’t a book predicated on him winning, but it was a theme on him and other successful black statesmen that the CR Movement paved the way for.
hawkdriver on October 3, 2008 at 12:14 AM
My only complaint about Ifill was the horrible suit she was wearing.
She had to be “moderate” she still has a book to sell either way.
InTheBellyoftheBeast on October 3, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Maybe, but she was under a microscope, and had to be on her best behavior. The only way to get these maggots to get anywhere near fair is to put Fear of Public Ridicule in them ( ridicule even from their fellow-maggots )
Janos Hunyadi on October 3, 2008 at 12:15 AM
I read it on youtube,,
“Sarah Palin made Joe Biden pay for his own rape kit!”
JellyToast on October 3, 2008 at 12:15 AM
I hear ya bro, I heAR YA!
Calm Before the Storm on October 3, 2008 at 12:15 AM
I thought she always gave Biden the last word and didn’t let Palin give a rebuttal. She would always change the subject as soon as Biden finished talking, so no, I didn’t like her.
However, considering she’s in the tank, how bad she could have been, and how Palin still hit it out of the park, I’ll let it slide.
El_Terrible on October 3, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Even one of the most left wing Labor Party commentators in Australia said that Palin won convincingly. Amazing!!!
Crux Australis on October 3, 2008 at 12:17 AM
By “senate stuff” you mean complete and utter bulls#^%?
m064404 on October 3, 2008 at 12:19 AM
sARAH PINNED jOE AND HELLD A LOOGIE OVER HIS FACE WHILE THUMPING HIS FOREHEAD WITH HER INDEX FINGER!
Calm Before the Storm on October 3, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Maybe, but I’m seriously “right of Santorum” and am normally sensitive to impartiality. I really didn’t get that. But then again, someone was slapping my shoulder every time Palin spoke and it was hard to concentrate.
hawkdriver on October 3, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Crux Australis on October 3, 2008 at 12:17 AM
That’s probably a better gauge then here because all the Inside the Beltway folks are impressed with Sen. Biden’s senate talk. They say he has a better grasp of “the facts” but it’s just gum flapping. And good grief he’s been there a thirty years, which I consider a drawback.
Cindy Munford on October 3, 2008 at 12:22 AM
m064404 on October 3, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Yes, that’s exactly what I mean. C-Span2 the sleeping pill.
Cindy Munford on October 3, 2008 at 12:23 AM
Really? Because I thought she always gave Biden a chance to respond and not so much Palin. And it seemed that Biden went over and didn’t get interrupted until he made his point but Palin couldn’t finish her sentence. I yelled at her a couple of times.
Of course I called Biden a liar many times…
petunia on October 3, 2008 at 12:23 AM
read it on youtube,,
“Sarah Palin made Joe Biden pay for his own rape kit!”
JellyToast on October 3, 2008 at 12:15 AM
lol
Twoconservative on October 3, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Calm Before the Storm on October 3, 2008 at 12:19 AM
Not enjoying the visual.
Cindy Munford on October 3, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Palin did a really nice job. I haven’t enjoyed a debate so much since Cheney destroyed John Edwards. Speaking of Cheney, WTF was with that ‘Darth Cheney’ riff that Biden went on? Guess he had to throw some red meat to the fruit cake wing of the left since they probably got a bit lost with all the big words after the opening statements.
If I was Cheney, I would find that lack of faith..disturbing. I think he ought to put the force choke hold on Biden long enough to make his plugs pop out of his head. Disrepectful.
austinnelly on October 3, 2008 at 12:25 AM
I wonder if Palin’s toughest task was cheerleading for McCain with a straight face.
trailboss on October 3, 2008 at 12:25 AM
OMG, news on another web-site is running a crawler that the perky Katie Couric was arrested for animal cruelty for bitch-slapping her cat towards the end of the debate. Her neighbors were alerted to the incident when they heard her screaming. “ASK HER TO NAME THE LAST 14 PRESIDENTS OF KAZACKSTAN YOU FUSKING IDIOT!!!”
hawkdriver on October 3, 2008 at 12:26 AM
Palin beat
Bidenthe spread.Chimpy on October 3, 2008 at 12:26 AM
BIDEN
27% 48,777
PALIN
71% 130,376
NEITHER
2% 3,210
Total Votes: 182,363
pambi on October 3, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Some guy who lost to her in 06 is now saying she’s great…they can work together….
I agree with everyone and Rush and Sean don’t let the MSM demoralize you. WE ARE GOING TO WIN …I HAVE NO DOUBT!
CCRWM on October 3, 2008 at 12:29 AM
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