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McCain: On second thought, they probably could have gotten a better moderator, huh?

posted at 12:45 pm on October 2, 2008 by Allahpundit
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A bit of polite, halting criticism for the morning after we found out that Ifill didn’t even mention her book to the Debate Commission. Better watch out, Maverick: Criticism in this vein is apt to get you branded a racist.

That’s the second half of the clip. The first half is devoted to pondering why a guy who supported the bailout yet did nothing to push it through the House should be getting a bounce from the economy’s deterioration this week, even though his pals at Fannie, Freddie, and ACORN — and in Congress, of course — are largely responsible for creating the situation. Note to McCain: It’s better to light a candle in the form of a campaign ad than to curse the darkness.


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Curse the darkness? Dude, you are so busted.

RobertInAustin on October 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM

Does he really want to win this election?

He seems strangely uninvolved.

Elizabetty on October 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM

Frigging dunce.

Spanglemaker on October 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM

Does he want to win?

flyfisher on October 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM

Sigh…

null on October 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM

Why did they choose Gwen Ifill? Because Michelle Obama had a prior commitment.

RBMN on October 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM

Curse the darkness? Dude, you are so busted.
RobertInAustin on October 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM

Haha. The Obama Truth Squad will be knocking at his door any second.

Slublog on October 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM

Note to McCain: It’s better to light a candle in the form of a campaign ad than to curse the darkness

How poetic.

LimeyGeek on October 2, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Does he really want to win this election?
He seems strangely uninvolved.
Elizabetty on October 2, 2008 at 12:48 PM

Yes he does.

And no, that’s just your opinion.

Does he want to win?
flyfisher on October 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM

Oh good lord.

wise_man on October 2, 2008 at 12:50 PM

It is really remarkable. The vast bulk of voices available to the nation for facts merely inverts reality when they discuss our situation. Perfect example: All the radio and TV news headlines, and I mean all of them, talk about the bailout bill and vote as a failure of Republicans to act. If memory serves, the Dims have a majority in both Houses. They didn’t need a single GOP vote to pass the bill earlier in the week. A third of House Dims voted down the bill that Pelosi told us was so important to pass. Yet the story is supposed to be that the GOP didn’t pass the bill? The GOP doesn’t have control of either House. So if the GOP were the majority party in the Congress, would talking heads be blaming the Dims? Absurd.

I mean it… search for any MSM outlet reporting on the House vote and see if they spend even five seconds asking why Pelosi didn’t demand a party line yes vote on the bill. You cannot find it. You have to go to the blogs and alternative media to find it. And if you ask fifty of your neighbors, almost all of them will say the GOP killed the bill. Do they even understand that the Dims control the Congress? I doubt it, and that is not even an issue of interpretation. It’s just a fact that the Dims are the majority party. Maybe Mikey Moore is right. Americans are truly stupid, incurious and impatient. I think I will start calling our nation New France.

What scares me far more is what Obastard the Odious will do when elected. I’m starting to think he will be far more tempted to take a stand and go hard left instead of his customary habit of voting “present.” It’s time to start looking at how Mussolini’s Fascist Italy sank its fingers into the ownership of the economy, with the State owning large stakes in major industries, putting government lackeys on their boards. And the legal intimidation of Obastard’s political opponents. No one will be thrown in jail for criticizing The Messiah. But the ruinously expensive possibility of fending off legal attacks from the Obastard Empire will shut up many, many dissenters.

George Orwell on October 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM

As I said last night, it’s the wrong time for the McCain-Palin campaign to do too much whining about the moderator. Palin’s up to bat tonight, and if there are too many curveballs or a few pitches thrown high and tight, the campaign may be justified in questioning the questioner. However, we’ve seen Palin whiff quite a few fastballs down the middle (or get caught looking – even worse), and if that happens too much, any complaining will sound like very sour grapes.

Big S on October 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM

And no, that’s just your opinion.

Does he want to win?
flyfisher on October 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Oh good lord.

wise_man on October 2, 2008 at 12:50 PM

It is not an opinion it is an observation.

Elizabetty on October 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM

Slowly the lights are dawning on McCain.

Tommy_G on October 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Is Johnny Mac part of the fix too? He warned the dems regulation was needed and still can’t capitalize on this issue?

I guess he wants to be the dems favorite repub and not CIC.

DeweyWins on October 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Does he want to win?

flyfisher on October 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM

No, and he’s increasingly coming across like Pat from that 1990s SNL skit. Or maybe he’s a girly man. What presidential candidate would rely on his VP selection to revive his campaign–twice. If McCain won’t fight, how can his supporters?

BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Does he want to win?

flyfisher on October 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM

You don’t win by whining. That’s the others side’s shtick.

geckomon on October 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Nobody should be surprised. Most career Television talking heads are Marxists.

tx2654 on October 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM

last night after the senate vote, mitch mcconnel called harry reid either his good friend or his dear friend. Then they started slapping each other on the back for a job well done. I thought they were going to give each other awards.

McCain opened his debate remarks the other night to praise his dear friend Ted Kennedy, the lion of the senate.

These Senators aren’t normal anymore. Their bs is so thick that people puke listening to their obsequiousness. Maybe Obama is lucky he never spent much time there. Would turn him into even more of a weird asshole. Lurch had the same problem. Maybe Obama will win cause he’s not a Senator.

The Senate is a branch of Madame Tussaud’s.

JiangxiDad on October 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM

John McCain is probably one of the toughest men that ever landed on this earth; now he needs to start acting like it. Enough of the “be nice” crap. Hit them where it hurts and hit them constantly. Treating the left like human beings will only result in hard blow to your head.

rplat on October 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM

Look everyone. If Gwen even gets to “overly Obama” on Sarah… people are going to complain. There might even be another VP debate comibng out of this if Gwen doesn’t do the “right thing”.

McCain knows this… he is just holding back and waiting.

All we can do as well is sit back and watch what happens.

upinak on October 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM

Not terribly off-topic, but Rush is (finally) on fire this hour regarding the debate/the candidates. I hope you all are listening. Frig, I hope McCain is listening.

saint kansas on October 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM

The Senate is a branch of Madame Tussaud’s.

JiangxiDad on October 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Snarf! But Tussaud’s wares are more lifelike.

George Orwell on October 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM

Whining isn’t the only way to talk to the media. You can be clever and quick-witted, and laugh at them. McCain takes them so seriously. He should never talk to the media, he should talk over them.

The correct answer about Ifill was that the American people will decide about the fairness of the media, the debates, and the election.

JiangxiDad on October 2, 2008 at 12:56 PM

It is not an opinion it is an observation.

Elizabetty on October 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM

It is a fact. Wise_man seems to think that allowing opponents to punch one in the face over and over is a strong defense of ones stomach.

Perhaps McCain thinks that he’ll get the Nobel Prize for Peace if he loses the election? I can see that.

progressoverpeace on October 2, 2008 at 12:56 PM

This is what four years of the Obama presidency is going to be – if you object to anything the left wants, you will be called racist.

Geraghty nails it here.

When I talk to swooning liberals, one of their pro-Obama talking points is that electing an African-American will help heal the nation’s racial divide. I think the Geraghty line I quoted shows that an Obama presidency has the potential to do exactly the opposite.

Obama has been too cute by half with his playing of the race card and has made accusing his opponents of latent racism a troubling habit. If he’s elected, I’m sure he’ll keep doing it.

That would make for a tedious four or eight years.

Slublog on October 2, 2008 at 12:56 PM

It’s better to light a candle in the form of a campaign ad than to curse the darkness.

Allahpundit

Wow, Allah must be really down, all of a sudden he’s quoting the Bible.

But of course McCain was not “cursing the darkness,” and he’s been lighting candles right and left. He was lighting a candle in this interview by telling it the way it is, Obama did nothing to help, where McCain engaged the issue. Obama wasn’t even planning to fly back to DC before Bush invited him into the process.

Maxx on October 2, 2008 at 12:57 PM

He’s starting to suffer from Bush Sr. Syndrome, where the voter feels he really doesn’t want the job.

Hening on October 2, 2008 at 12:57 PM

The Senate is a branch of Madame Tussaud’s.

Dude.

saint kansas on October 2, 2008 at 12:59 PM

Now you know why we don’t elect Senators to the presidency as a general rule. It’s the world’s most exclusive social club, and the club rules matter more than anything. Not conducive to being a fighter and a name-namer when shit happens. McCain is not immune to it, and Joe Biden sure as hell isn’t either. not clear how much of it could rub off on Obama in 143 days. If Obama had more experience before being elected to the Senate (i.e. been a governor or a business executive), it might actually be in his favor

rockmom on October 2, 2008 at 1:00 PM

George Orwell on October 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM

The longer this goes on, the more I begin to think Dr. Williams is right….

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 1:00 PM

saint kansas on October 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM

Rush echoed what I said several days ago: McCain will not take off the gloves and name names, because to do so would mean he’d have to name Democrats. To implicate Democrats would mean he’d no longer be the patron saint of bipartisan cooperation.

Ergo, the gloves will not come off and he’ll go down in defeat.

Maverick!

ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 1:00 PM

saint kansas on October 2, 2008 at 12:59 PM

LOL. They could have a TV game show. Put real pols and wax dummies on the stage– win $ for picking the one with a pulse.

JiangxiDad on October 2, 2008 at 1:00 PM

Perhaps McCain thinks that he’ll get the Nobel Prize for Peace if he loses the election? I can see that.

Nah. He’ll just settle for the bi-partisan statesman of the Senate gig.

Fletch54 on October 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM

Dude.

saint kansas on October 2, 2008 at 12:59 PM

“YOUR SOUL IS MINE.” – Harry Reid

*eats*

Grue in the Attic on October 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM

I’ll repeat what I said a couple of days ago and will continue to until he either does it or loses in a landslide. Time is running out.

All these investigative stories have no value unless McCain literally gets in Obama’s face with them during a debate.

And I mean gets in his face–call him out with a personal attack saying his background affiliations with Wright, ACORN, Ayers, Rezko etc are repugnant. His being on the dole with Fannie, Freddie and AIG being reprehensible. That he is not qualified to have a say in any solution as having personally benefited from possible criminal behavior by the firms in question. He has to bring up his being nurtured by the most corrupt political machine in history in Chicago. He has to personally blame Obama for the smear campaign against Palin and repugnant attacks on her family directed from web sites connected to his campaign.

He has to tell him his personal associations, the actions that he sanctions, disqualify for President. He has to get real close to him and tell him in no uncertain terms that he is a phony who has accomplished nothing in his political career, a career spent solely on personal advancement. He has to point at him when he speaks never looking at the moderator. He has to call out Frank, Dodd and Pelosi. He has to say that while he has voted with Bush 90% you have voted with Pelosi 97%. That the lot of them are earmark pigs with more coming if Obama is elected.

He has to figuratively get inches from his face and read him the riot act. He has to be Patton.

Short of that McCain has no chance of being President. Not only does McCain have to do this for himself he has to do it for us. He owes us that.

patrick neid on September 30, 2008 at 7:44 PM

patrick neid on October 2, 2008 at 1:02 PM

He’s starting to suffer from Bush Sr. Syndrome, where the voter feels he really doesn’t want the job.

Hening on October 2, 2008 at 12:57 PM

Or Bob Dole, for that matter.

Badger91 on October 2, 2008 at 1:02 PM

Ergo, the gloves will not come off and he’ll go down in defeat.

Maverick!

ManlyRash on October 2, 2008 at 1:00 PM

Maybe he pushed hard for the nomination because he thought it was his due, but doesn’t think the Presidency is. Maybe he’s following some weird Senate tradition that he paid his dues and deserved the nomination.

JiangxiDad on October 2, 2008 at 1:03 PM

I must direct the curious to a very prescient post, months ago on proteinwisdom.com where Ferraro’s remarks were addressed:

Jeff’s update: Incidentally, let me add here that Obama’s response is, as ever with this calculating huckster, cynical and opportunistic — even as it pretends to aspire to the moral high ground (with just the right mixture of outrage and stoicism). Obama once again demands an apology because a white person noticed that his using his blackness effectively has been, well, effective for him (the key point here being that it is he, and not blacks in general, who Ferraro spoke of) — and in so doing, is sure to convince a number of weak-minded individuals on all sides of the political divide that they can buy themselves some easy grace (and burnish their anti-racist bona fides, in the process) simply by voting for him.

It’s a one stop shop for cultural penance — a way to unsully yourself of your despicable whiteness, and unburden yourself of your historical baggage. Which, I suppose, makes Barack the campaign equivalent to a Hail Mary.

Had the first serious black contender for President been a conservative, I believe it would have helped race relations in this country immeasurably. That he’s a Democrat will do nothing but set us back decades — and in the process erode our freedom of speech even further, all in the name of “tolerance.”

Make no mistake, when Obastard is President, race relations will suffer badly, for perhaps decades. No redemption here.

George Orwell on October 2, 2008 at 1:03 PM

I’m glad McCAin has changed his tune a bit. Yesterday, by praising Ifell, he left himself without the ability to complain, credibly, should Palin get jobbed by Ifell. Now he’s left the door open to attacking Ifell, without going overboard about it. Just right.

james23 on October 2, 2008 at 1:03 PM

It is not an opinion it is an observation.
Elizabetty on October 2, 2008 at 12:51 PM

An “observation” that Mccain is uninvolved and doesn’t want to win.

Right.

wise_man on October 2, 2008 at 1:04 PM

Nah. He’ll just settle for the bi-partisan statesman of the Senate gig.

Fletch54 on October 2, 2008 at 1:01 PM

bingo.

Maybe he’s just a pitbull when challenged from his own side. VERY WEIRD.

JiangxiDad on October 2, 2008 at 1:05 PM

JiangxiDad on October 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Yep, I’ve commented on this before. They treat it like a fraternity, or perhaps a House of Lords. That’s the main reason I don’t like having Senators as presidential candidates.

a capella on October 2, 2008 at 1:05 PM

Maybe Governor Palin could say in response to an inevitable question about experience and background that “My past doesn’t include ties to people like William Ayers that I’m sure are featured prominently in that book you plan to release on inaguration day.”

EconomicNeocon on October 2, 2008 at 1:06 PM

a capella on October 2, 2008 at 1:05 PM

heh. House of Lords. Man do you think they made the Sir Lurch mistake last time and we made the Sir John mistake this time? Crap!

JiangxiDad on October 2, 2008 at 1:07 PM

He’s starting to suffer from Bush Sr. Syndrome, where the voter feels he really doesn’t want the job.

Hening on October 2, 2008 at 12:57 PM

Bush Jr. stopped defending himself in his awful second term, also. He loves to let the left walk all over him (and the rest of us). The only areas he stood firm on are Iraq (thank G-d), SCOTUS appointments, and tax cuts. On everything else he collapsed and capitulated to the morons on the left. Foreign policy has been nothing but a running retreat for the whole of his second term.

OPEC has unleashed the oil weapon against us, lighting the fuse for the subprime nuclear bomb that dems built, and suffered not one iota. It is insane.

progressoverpeace on October 2, 2008 at 1:07 PM

McCain still hasn’t accepted all the love is gone and his divorce with the drive by media is final.

What’s the difference between an associate of David Duke and an associate of Rev Wright? At least most people run from David Duke in days, not 20 Years.

tarpon on October 2, 2008 at 1:09 PM

It’s time to take the gloves off.

And, no, calling out a debate moderator who is at best in a conflict of interest and at worst totally in the tank for Obama is not whining.

CanadianGuy on October 2, 2008 at 1:10 PM

Note to McCain: It’s better to light a candle in the form of a campaign ad than to curse the darkness.

Yes, and will someone please light a candle under his butt? Stop trying to win the Miss Congeniality vote, and go after the Fannie Mae Democrats as if your life depended on it.

Buy Danish on October 2, 2008 at 1:10 PM

I’m confused…I didn’t hear McCain “curse the darkness”*, I heard him chuckle at this obvious conflict of interest with Ifill’s ‘moderation’. I thought that was the best way to diffuse the issue at the time; now they can go make an ad linking Obama to the financial meltdown, which is much more important than trying to get this barnacle off the moderator seat. Anyone they would have picked would have been biased, and they never would let a Brit Hume moderate, that would be partisan!
Where does that saying* come from, the Bible?

Christine on October 2, 2008 at 1:10 PM

All we can do as well is sit back and watch what happens.

upinak on October 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM

Right. And maybe people watching and some of the post debate banter will actually focus more on Ifill and her questions than Palin’s and Biden’s answers? Well, that could be good or bad for us depending on Sarah’s performance.

TOMORROW’S MSM HEADLINE TODAY:
OBAMA WINS VP DEBATE!

Brat on October 2, 2008 at 1:11 PM

patrick neid on October 2, 2008 at 1:02 PM

Its a good point. I count three relatively unknown facts about Obama that are disqualifying, yet McCain will not speak of them:
1) BO’s spiritual mentor is a stark raving mad racist;
2) his political partner Ayers is a confessed but never prosecuted terrorist who hates America; and
3)he voted–four times–against protecting new born infants marked for termination.

In my opinion, McCain has a duty to the country to talk about these things publicly and frequently. Yes, he also has to make a positive case for himself, but Mr. Country First cannot let a guy carrying such revolting baggage move into the WH for 4 years, at least not without alerting the country to the danger. And if McCain didn’t feel up to doing just that, he should not have sought the nomination.

james23 on October 2, 2008 at 1:11 PM

The correct answer about Ifill was that the American people will decide about the fairness of the media, the debates, and the election.

JiangxiDad on October 2, 2008 at 12:56 PM

I disagree. Conflicts of interest need to be rooted out an eliminated altogether. There can be no room for second guessing.

The correct answer is “Gwen Ifill is serving as a moderator in an instance in which she has an extraordinary conflict of interest. She has a direct financial stake in the outcome of the election. It’s unbelievable that she did not disclose her conflict of interest when she was asked to be the moderator. Nevertheless, Governor Palin, our supporters, and I will press on.”

Calling out a conflict of interest in advance is not whining. If you don’t agree, let me know how you feel about Chris Dodd getting a sweetheart loan from an institution (Countrywide) that falls under the authority of his committee’s supervision. Every action Dodd’s taken should be suspect. And now we have his conduct and Frank’s conduct (and the conduct of too many other Dems) to pile on top of it.

BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 1:11 PM

Does he want to win?
flyfisher on October 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Oh good lord.

wise_man on October 2, 2008 at 12:50 PM

You don’t win by whining. That’s the others side’s shtick.

geckomon on October 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM

To wise_man…with all that wisdom couldn’t you come up with something more than “Oh good lord?” That’s a nonresponse, response. And it’s obvious others had the same reaction I had. Where is the strong leader John McCain is supposed to be? He appears whupped to me. And I am entitled to my opinion.

And to geckomon.
I don’t want him to whine about the media. I don’t think he will get anywhere with that. I want him to fight. I sense the winds of socialist tyranny are blowing and I want him to fight for the forces of freedom and he’s not doing it. He is like a pinball, being bounced around by outside forces. His campaign has no central narrative. The only things I know he is really for I oppose, like cap and trade (which he mentioned again last week at Clinton’s Global Initiative) and comprehensive immigration reform. I want to see a candidate standing on principles and taking it to the opposition. He is letting the media define Sarah Palin instead of the campaign defining Sarah Palin. And on and on it goes. He may yet win this thing, but he needs to change his campaign tactics soon. He’s running out of time.

flyfisher on October 2, 2008 at 1:12 PM

Buy Danish on October 2, 2008 at 1:10 PM

It’s advice like that that killed Kenny.

lorien1973 on October 2, 2008 at 1:13 PM

No Sh*t Sherlock.

I should run his campaign. Just kick ass and don’t wast any time takin names.

I need a drink!!!!!!!!

Old Hippie Vet on October 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Obama and his truth squad did anyone check if Ifill is a member? This is the spoof, It looks like the Obama Truth Squad is going to use the “Imus Doctrine” GRIN.

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s3i41471

Dr Evil on October 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Roughly 32~31 days to election Day,and the Liberal
pundits,and the in the tank,biased un-official
Liberal Democratic Party’s propaganda ministry
division the Lefty MSM news crew are putting
out doom and gloom,and,

THE PRECEPTION OF,

DON’T GET SUCKERED IN TO IT,HAVE YE FAITH!!!:)

canopfor on October 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM

Yesterday, by praising Ifell, he left himself without the ability to complain, credibly, should Palin get jobbed by Ifel

No, he’s leaving everything on the table. He said something to the effect of “I’m sure she’ll be professional” and can play the shocked card if she isn’t

lodge on October 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM

EconomicNeocon on October 2, 2008 at 1:06 PM

Here is the best answer that I can think of to the experience question.

lorien1973 on October 2, 2008 at 1:15 PM

He’s against earmarks. Uses them as the foundation of his campaign.

Then he signs a bill full of earmarks.

He suspends his campaign to focus on the financial crisis, even keeps people guessing if he’ll show up at the debate.

When asked financial questions at the debate he seems uninterested.

Says that an obviously disqualified moderator is fine with him.

When it’s clearly too late, says it’s really not okay with him.

Maverick.

Dorvillian on October 2, 2008 at 1:16 PM

I sure hope McCain gets with the program pretty soon.

chalons on October 2, 2008 at 1:16 PM

I agree that it is better to suggest Ifill as less suitable as moderator than to attack her directly. Planting the seeds of doubt regarding Ifill’s Obama advocacy will change the focus to whether or not Ifill’s questions and demeanor are credible. McCain’s focus in now upon the undecideds, the independents, and the disgruntled Hillary voters.

Palin is central to getting the disgruntled DNC vote while gaining those of the Conservative base sufficiently intrepid to not obsess on being hypercritical of her. Palin is an political outsider. That is much of her appeal.

The faster some of the increasingly tedious doom and gloom crowd realize that the faster they can get away from their doomsday fixations and get back to getting McCain elected.

viking01 on October 2, 2008 at 1:17 PM

I’m glad McCAin has changed his tune a bit. Yesterday, by praising Ifell, he left himself without the ability to complain, credibly, should Palin get jobbed by Ifell

I’m going to say this again.

Gwen Ifill does not believe she has done anything wrong. She does not think it’s a big deal that she has a book deal. If she did, she would have told the debate commission.

Ifill does not think her apparent bias for Obama is a bias, but it is just what any intelligent person (including 90 per cent of her colleagues in the MSM and 100 per cent at PBS) would think.

Because of this, Ifill is going to do her job, which is to try to embarrass Palin. This controversy is not going to make her hold back one bit from doing her job, which she sees is to expose how unqualified Palin is to be VP and how the Republicans are a greater threat to America than terrorists .

Anyone expecting anything different has not been paying attention for the last 30 years or is living in a fantasyworld.

It doesn’t make sense to Ifill’s Washington elite, brainwashed brain that people think this is a conflict of interest and thus her only plausible theory is it’s racist.

CanadianGuy on October 2, 2008 at 1:17 PM

I wish the debates were run by twin moderators. Both would be required to state for whom they will vote, and you must have one GOP partisan, and one Donk partisan. They can take turns asking questions. At least this would prevent most “professional” talking heads from volunteering for the job. They would be too scared of letting their mask drop. Perhaps we would get some fresh faces on the job. What drives us crazy isn’t so much the clear partisanship, but the pretense that it isn’t there.

George Orwell on October 2, 2008 at 1:18 PM

Man E. Day…If McCain had come off angry that would have been very bad indeed. He knows that the racist shill won’t step down, so he’s making lemonade with the lemons they threw at him. Geesh, I don’t think McCain fights back enough either, but he has to choose his battles and this isn’t one of them.

Christine on October 2, 2008 at 1:19 PM

Now you know why we don’t elect Senators to the presidency as a general rule. It’s the world’s most exclusive social club, and the club rules matter more than anything. Not conducive to being a fighter and a name-namer when shit happens. McCain is not immune to it, and Joe Biden sure as hell isn’t either. not clear how much of it could rub off on Obama in 143 days. If Obama had more experience before being elected to the Senate (i.e. been a governor or a business executive), it might actually be in his favor

rockmom on October 2, 2008 at 1:00 PM

rockmom, this is an excellent observation. I don’t know if it explains all of McCain’s ineffectiveness, but I’m becoming convinced that it’s playing a significant part. I’m also beginning to see Bob Dole written all over him. I really like Dole, but he wasn’t a great presidential candidate.

Paging Mitt Romney. Better yet, could we substitute Hillary? Clinton-Palin would be a landslide winner. Give us an alternative to Obama who’s a fighter.

BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 1:19 PM

JiangxiDad on October 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM

That’s why my first litmus test during the primary is whether the candidate is a sitting senator. If so, he is out of the running in my book.

Why did they choose Gwen Ifill? Because Michelle Obama had a prior commitment.

RBMN on October 2, 2008 at 12:49 PM

hahahahahahahaha

Kafir on October 2, 2008 at 1:21 PM

Since the suspending of his campaign for the financial crisis and after the first debate, McCain seems to have lost all his fight, run out of steam.

He seems to have either given up or has a real bad opinion about Palin or both. (Beware of a new “maverick” move by McCain: remove Palin after the debate or something worse…)

albill on October 2, 2008 at 1:21 PM

Posted on another thread, originally posted on The Corner, and re-posted here – one of the best blog posts of the entire campaign:


Ifill and Republican Wimps [Peter Kirsanow]

The refrain from most of the GOP talking heads over the last twenty four hours concerning Gwen Ifill’s role during the VP debate is that she’s a fine journalist, who, now that the fact of her book is public knowledge, shouldn’t be precluded from moderating the event. Heck, it may even work to Palin’s advantage because Ifill will be under intense scrutiny to be fair and balanced.

This rationale points to the GOP’s ( and, to some extent, conservatives’) nearly wholesale capitulation to liberal media dominance and is one of the reasons the GOP base find themselves so frequently dispirited: no objection, no fight, no pushback to a howling conflict of interest.

We’re instructed that it’s perfectly understandable when all of the Democratic presidential candidates refuse to debate on Fox. But Republicans are supposed to quietly take their medicine from a moderator with a direct financial interest in an Obama/ Biden victory.

I concur that Ifill’s a professional. That’s not the point. Republicans will find themselves losing more and more often if they do not vigorously challenge these media travesties. And it’s the right thing to do for the country. A partisan, cheerleading press is not a hallmark of a free and democratic society.

So many times we see Republicans act “gentlemanly” and turn the other cheek —to what end? It simply emboldens the media toward even greater bias. How does that serve the interests of the country? Democrat fingerprints are all over the current financial mess; Dodd and Frank were integral to the debacle, yet the GOP does nothing to counter the prevailing narrative that this is a McCain—House Republican problem—and McCain’s poll numbers plummet.

The conclusion of McCain’s convention speech exhorting us to “fight, fight, fight” has been quickly forgotten. There’s no honor in failing to challenge brazen media bias and distortion. It does the nation no good when voters cast ballots based upon false or misleading information. Right now it looks as if the same politicians who engineered the Fannie Mae/ Freddie Mac train wreck are going to win in November. The most liberal candidate with the most radical associations of any presidential aspirant in history is poised to win because the media, with virtual GOP acquiescence, has portrayed that candidate as mainstream.

The GOP seems to depend on Rush Limbaugh to correct the record, and query where we’d be without him? But the GOP better start doing it’s job and forthrightly, aggressively challenge blatant media transgressions each and every time they occur. The economy’s at stake. Success in the war on terrorism is at stake. The Supreme Court is at stake. Do your duty. And part of that duty is not meekly surrendering to rank media bias.

10/02 09:53 AM

thirteen28 on October 2, 2008 at 1:22 PM

Support for amnesty.

Suspending his campaign.

Deciding that voters REALLY want to hear about earmarks.

Not putting his foot down about Ifill.

I am really wondering about McCain’s intelligence, stability, or both.
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RJGatorEsq. on October 2, 2008 at 1:23 PM

I sure hope McCain gets with the program pretty soon.

chalons on October 2, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Too late. Everyone has tuned into the Obama channel.

lorien1973 on October 2, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Dennis Miller said on his show today that McCain needs to wake up and if Ifill tries any crap with Palin in the debate tonight he needs to get mad and call her on it and take her out. It was quite the rant at the end of his 2nd hour if anyone can find it.

CanadianGuy on October 2, 2008 at 1:25 PM

He knows that the racist shill won’t step down, so he’s making lemonade with the lemons they threw at him.

“Would you like another sh1t sandwich with that lemonade, Senator McCain?”

“Why yes, thank you!”

*eats*

saint kansas on October 2, 2008 at 1:25 PM

He’s against earmarks. Uses them as the foundation of his campaign.

Then he signs a bill full of earmarks.

Dorvillian on October 2, 2008 at 1:16 PM

The Constitution requires that all appropriations bills originate in the House. The bailout bill failed in the House, so the Senate could only vote on it quickly if it attached the bailout bill to an appropriations bill that had already come over from the House. So they attached to a bill with pork. The odds of finding an appropriations bill that had come over from the House without pork would have been pretty slim.

That said, McCain’s campaign has been so frustrating. He had a month to define Obama and paint him as a liberal, but he let Obama present himself as a “moderate.” It will be difficult to revise this in a month. The Dems nominated a left winger, giving the GOP a chance to keep the White House in a year in which that seemed unlikely.

I hope McCain will throw the bipartisanship away now that the bailout bill has cleared the Senate. Act “statesman-like” after you’ve been elected. Now hit the Dems with everything you’ve got. Hit hard and hit often.

Wethal on October 2, 2008 at 1:27 PM

lorien1973: I checked out those free bumper stickers on your site…No wonder over a million people have ordered them, you don’t have to even pay for shipping! After he wins I’m sure that he will re-coop those losses for Moveon.org, (George Soros).

Christine on October 2, 2008 at 1:28 PM

Next time/if Mitt Romney runs for something can we have Hugh Hewitt as a moderator in his debate?

Brat on October 2, 2008 at 1:31 PM

“Life Isn’t Fair”

No sh#t,the way the cocky left are behaving,Team
McCain/Palin need to strike back!

In tonights debate,there is a biased moderator from the
git go,I say fight fire with fire,it would be nice if
SarahCuda had a MRS.Smith goes to Washington type moment,
and Sarah loads The “making them famous” ordanance into
the political bomb bay doors,and in a agasped audience
she drops ‘da bomb’in the debate,in a stealthy fashion!!

Sumpin,to shut these(idiots)Lefty’s up!!!

canopfor on October 2, 2008 at 1:33 PM

As soon as the bailout bill passes the House, McCain has to get on the attack.

1) Financial crisis was caused by Fannie and Freddie pushing risky loans to unqualified borrowers. Fannie and Freddie were run by Democrats who made millions from these loans.

2) McCain and other saw problem in 2005, tried to tighten regulations, filibustered by Democrats.

3) Fannie and Freddie managers are advisors to Obama campaign. Obama can’t reform them, fox guarding henhouse.

4) While Obama was out blaming Bush for the problem, McCain was in the Senate trying to fix it.

Dear Senator McCain: You said you would name names…now is the time!!!

Steve Z on October 2, 2008 at 1:33 PM

Dennis Miller said on his show today….

Miller said last night on O’Reilly that when Whoopi Goldberg questioned him about her “becoming a slave again”, he should have asked her “What kind of a Hope Diamond-sized pile of crap question is that?”

Maybe not those exact words, but it would have been a hell of a lot better that “Oh, no, no, no, Whoopi.”

Marcus on October 2, 2008 at 1:36 PM

MEMO to RNC: Drop the “Make them Famous” political Ordanance

or,

Circle the wagon’s,and declare ‘Broken Arrow’,I hope its
the first order!!:)

canopfor on October 2, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Marcus on October 2, 2008 at 1:36 PM

LGF put up Miller’s quote on McCain and Palin hanging out with Couric and Whoopee and The View and taking these shots.

There seems to be this etiquette that her and John are adhering to … they’d better realize they’re in enemy country, for God’s sake. These people establish their bona fides, and indeed their seating positions at Sally Quinn and Ben Bradlee’s Christmas party if they take her out. They’d better get it together

I’m glad Miller is on our side

CanadianGuy on October 2, 2008 at 1:39 PM

I’m still p*ssed that he acquiesced yesterday.

Moron.

madmonkphotog on October 2, 2008 at 1:40 PM

Note to McCain: It’s better to light a candle in the form of a campaign ad than to curse the darkness

Racist.

ronsfi on October 2, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Panicked people pushing pugnacious permutations prematurely.

Calm Before the Storm on October 2, 2008 at 1:49 PM

“Would you like another sh1t sandwich with that lemonade, Senator McCain?”

“Sure, Boehner and I are real connoisseurs by now…”

Fortunata on October 2, 2008 at 1:50 PM

thirteen28 on October 2, 2008 at 1:22 PM

Thanks for echoing this. It’s precisely why McCain should have complained vehemently about the conflict of interest. The issue isn’t whether she’ll be objective tonight. The issue is how can you even argue that she’ll be objective tonight when she was deceitful before? Her credibility is shot.

Her failure to disclose the conflict of interest is unbelievable–and it wasn’t her call to assess her own objectivity. Whether she ultimately moderates tonight or not, the only thing out of Ifill’s mouth should be an abject apology and a withdrawal from serving as moderator.

BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 1:50 PM

I keep telling myself that he’s holding back his ammunition (keeping the powder dry…) until it will do the most good. The MSM will be able to mute most issues and turn them into “old news” by the time the election rolls around, if we let them.

Nonetheless, we do seem to be running out of time now.

If I’m right, McCain’s been saving up for a killer ad campaign that starts after the debates.

But I am starting to get nervous…

The MSM campaign of lies is beyond anything I’ve ever seen before. I’ve lost respect for nearly every so-called journalist — even many of those on Fox. Thank God for Jim Lehrer, but I just don’t see any young journalists of his caliber and professionalism.

ClintACK on October 2, 2008 at 1:59 PM

McCain failed to name democratic names in the debate while criticizing Wall Street and Repubs. That’s why he went down in the polls. I fear for tonight, not because Palin isn’t intelligent, but because if Gwen Ifill has any common sense she would ask Gov Palin, “Gov Palin, in his first debate and in his TV Commercials and in his campaign stumps with you, John McCain repeatedly said he would veto any bill that came across his desk that contained earmarks and pork barrel spending. The Bailout Bill that Sen. McCain and 75 other Senators just assented to contained billions of dollars in pork and earmarks, yet not only did Sen. McCain vote yes on the bill, but he did not even give a speech against the pork and earmark items. What does this say about Sen. McCain’s lack of principle and hypocrisy?”

eaglewingz08 on October 2, 2008 at 1:59 PM

AMEN BuckeyeSam

Randy1968 on October 2, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Yo Johnny, bendover and take another one for your Republican gentlemen’s club and as you whimper, remember God only helps those that help themselves.

Obama or die….paint the whitehouse black…the age of Obama! Healing you can feel – as the bullet hits the bone!

dmann on October 2, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Democrats serve up the worst candidate in US Presidential history.

And we serve up, the 2nd worst.

We are officially racing to see who out-worsts the other.

Is that a word? Out-worsts????

TheHat on October 2, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Maybe he pushed hard for the nomination because he thought it was his due, but doesn’t think the Presidency is. Maybe he’s following some weird Senate tradition that he paid his dues and deserved the nomination.

JiangxiDad on October 2, 2008 at 1:03 PM

McCain is like the losing team in the Super Bowl that was just happy to be there. He feels that it is good enough that he got to be the nominee, and even if he loses the general election, his career is complete because he reached the pinnacle of his party.

What he fails to realize is that tens of millions of people have placed their faith and trust in him and he’s failing that trust.

fossten on October 2, 2008 at 2:22 PM

fossten on October 2, 2008 at 2:22 PM

Nice analogy!

dmann on October 2, 2008 at 2:27 PM

You don’t win by whining. That’s the others side’s shtick.

geckomon on October 2, 2008 at 12:53 PM

No, you win by doing… which is why we’re raising the question in the first place!

dominigan on October 2, 2008 at 2:29 PM

eaglewingz08 on October 2, 2008 at 1:59 PM

Ironically, the only answer that would seem to make a huge difference is if Palin responded…

“You’re absolutely right! John claimed one thing and should have carried it out. If I were President, you’d see not only that horrible monstrosity killed, like the VAST majority of Americans want, but I’d also start enacting non-taxpayer funded changes first to see if those would help. No sense shovelling tons (LITERALLY) of taxpayer dollars at a problem, when the bill doesn’t even solve what was a DEMOCRAT created problem!”

“But, but… democrat created…?”

“That’s right! Here’s how it all played out…”

dominigan on October 2, 2008 at 2:33 PM

When John McCain first chose Sarah Palin it WOKE so many of us up and gave us hope again. It gave us the feeling that things weren’t HOPELESS after all, THAT WE FINALLY HAD A CHANCE!

But McCain cannot STOP being McCain.

Unless SOME miracle happens we are indeed DOOMED!

Conservaboomer on October 2, 2008 at 2:39 PM

If I’m right, McCain’s been saving up for a killer ad campaign that starts after the debates.

But I am starting to get nervous…
ClintACK on October 2, 2008 at 1:59 PM

You are probably right ClintACK and he has the video crew to accomplish that but it won’t work as all his other superb Ad’s have not to date. At best they keep McCain in a holding pattern.

Why? Because he is not delivering the message in person. He has to personally deliver it to Obama mano e mano. Otherwise it is just standard electioneering that voters eyes glaze over. It has to be delivered on a national stage at the next debate. A punch list of all the the grievances listed above by myself and others. These are not cheap shots coming from a campaign in trouble, these are are a statement of the facts that Obama and crew were, embrace and plan for the future. If we are going to lose I want it to be the Alamo.

If he waits longer than the next debate it will look like desperation and he will be mocked for it. He will deserve it.

patrick neid on October 2, 2008 at 3:13 PM

McCain is like the losing team in the Super Bowl that was just happy to be there. He feels that it is good enough that he got to be the nominee, and even if he loses the general election, his career is complete because he reached the pinnacle of his party.

What he fails to realize is that tens of millions of people have placed their faith and trust in him and he’s failing that trust.

fossten on October 2, 2008 at 2:22 PM

I agree with someone above about the analogy in your first paragraph. And your second paragraph is what is really grinding me.

For the past three weeks, McCain’s done little but drop turds. Fine, he did well in the foreign-policy part of the debate. No one is surprised. I can’t believe that he’s getting out-flanked by Obama on the economy. Last time I checked, Obama didn’t have “noted economic expert” next to his name. For one thing, the GOP should own the energy issue, but it’s not even being discussed. And as far as the bail-out is concerned, McCain even has the goods on Obama and too many Dems. What’s his problem? It’s past too late.

Someone wrote elsewhere that McCain needs to understand that if his slogan really is “Country First,” he has to win this election. Yet he’s been a dead man walking for three weeks. He’s not going to be able to make up so much ground. The cement on the narrative is hardening in the swing states, and McCain’s picking his nose. Americans are enraged, McCain has villains, but he won’t name their names. The media are telling the Dems’ version of the story before he’ll rise from the dead and grab the microphone.

BuckeyeSam on October 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM

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