Luntz focus group: Palin in a blowout; Update: CBS, CNN polls say Biden won?
posted at 11:25 pm on October 2, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Lest anyone think Luntz cooks these things, his presidential debate FG was basically a wash tilting slightly towards Obama and his FG for C-SPAN shortly after Palin was picked was decidedly chilly towards her.
The electoral math is sufficiently unforgiving that I can’t quite believe this is a gamechanger, but clearly she did as well as anyone could have hoped. Clutch.
Update: At the very least, Palin’s alive for 2012. A nice consolation prize if things don’t pan out this year.
Update: It’s a Democratic year, I guess.
CBS News and Knowledge Networks have conducted a nationally representative poll of 473 uncommitted voters to get their immediate reaction to tonight’s vice presidential debate…
Forty-six percent of the uncommitted voters surveyed say Democrat Joe Biden won the debate, compared to 21 percent for Republican Sarah Palin. Thirty-three percent said it was a tie.
Eighteen percent of previously uncommitted percent say they are now committed to the Obama-Biden ticket. Ten percent say they are now committed to McCain-Palin. Seventy-one percent are still uncommitted.
Those results are partial; the good news is that Palin helped herself hugely, with 55 percent now more favorable to her and only 14 percent less so.
Can’t find a link yet for CNN but Taegan Goddard says they have it 51/36 for Greasy Joe.
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Joe “Walter” Biden is a loser!
eigafan on October 3, 2008 at 12:33 AM
take a cold shower it helps, trust me.
That hot tight black skirt and those high heels… damn my wife got some special attention tonight.
420sniper on October 3, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Thanks. That’s my word for the next FOUR years if we are stupid enough to elect the Trotzyite O-man.
BORG! People immediately know this term.
Add this to your vocabulary and use it on HotAir.
“Hey, he’s just a BORG.” Excellent
Sapwolf on October 3, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Hey, another astroturfer! McCain is deaf and senile! Palin did well, but they’re still gonna lose!
Really, you guys are still doing Mr. Axelrod proud.
funky chicken on October 3, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Hopefully someone will point out fairly quickly that the taxes on $12,000 in healthcare premiums do not exceed $5,000. I’ve heard people bring up the other ten or eleven lies, but this one seems to have slipped by.
vitocorleone99 on October 3, 2008 at 12:33 AM
I just did a poll using CBS/CNN method. 98% for Palin .03% for Biden. My other dog went to sleep before it was over and was undecided. The cat voted for Biden. Sort of confirms what me and the dogs have thought for quite awhile. (The cat’s retarded)
Which makes my poll 987% more accurate.
BruceB on October 3, 2008 at 12:34 AM
That’s not her job, that’s McCain’s job. Her job was to be taken seriously as a condidate for VP after weeks of vicious media bashing. Don’t tell me you think Biden has changed one single vote? I don’t like Obama but I just love that Joe? Hard to believe.
Marcus on October 3, 2008 at 12:34 AM
Dude behind Greta checking out the hot McCain chick…haha. He so wants a date.
SouthernGent on October 3, 2008 at 12:35 AM
No matter how big Sarah won tonight, the MSM narrative will not change. In fact, they’re too in bed with Obama to even give her any credit at all. Their political orgy is plain for all to see.
That newsroom anonymous who wrote to Professor Reynolds was right. “The fix is in, and it’s working.” There is nothing we can do to change that.
newton on October 3, 2008 at 12:36 AM
She brought results. She dominated tonight’s debates.
But suit yourself. I enjoy all enjoyable moments.
Spirit of 1776 on October 3, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Here’s the thing about the debate tonight. I know how I felt about it; and it was mainly based on my bias. I thought she won the debate, but only just. I’m sure the other side thinks Biden won. If that’s what I thought, then what do these idiotic “undecideds”, who don’t know what their beliefs are, think? I have no idea what to expect from them because I don’t think like them. I think they base a lot of their information on what they feel, not what they think, and by what the media tells them to think (i.e., the dubious meme that Palin is an inexperienced moron).
Tom Blogical on October 3, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Good lord…are democrat ALWAYS a wet blanket? Linda Douglas could suck the air out a room.
SouthernGent on October 3, 2008 at 12:38 AM
Of course CBS and CNN said that Biden won. So will ABC and NBC. They are so far in the tank for B. Hussein that they’re getting narcosis.
I saw it as a tie which doesn’t help McC at all. I’m praying and fasting for this one. Whatever happens happens. My hope is in Jesus Christ not the Republican party.
I just hate to see misery spread all over the world just ’cause BHO has a billion dollar ad campaign.
Mojave Mark on October 3, 2008 at 12:38 AM
VIA ACE, sorry posted in wrong thread earlier….
plausible!!!! go for it Jmac!
battleoflepanto1571 on October 3, 2008 at 12:39 AM
So can we go back to attacking
Paris HiltonMosesObama now? I was enjoying that.Ronnie on October 3, 2008 at 12:41 AM
I’m hoping this is the plan. If McCain blows this wide open, the election will be his.
Conservative_SAHM on October 3, 2008 at 12:42 AM
You may not remember this, but the undecideds were unmoved by Palin’s speech at the convention.
And yet, as soon as she appeared McCain took the lead in the polls, and did not relinquish it until this entire financial thing blew up.
DelD on October 3, 2008 at 12:45 AM
Joe could have pass out on stage 5 min. into the debate and Cnn, cbs, msnbc all would fine people who don,t even know what day of the week it is who would say joe won the debate.Do you realey belive they would say anything good about Palin?
thmcbb on October 3, 2008 at 12:46 AM
It wasn’t at all a tie, but even if it were … Assuming that McCain’s poll numbers dropped in part due to Palin’s recent interviews, why wouldn’t he get at least a portion of that back?
Ronnie on October 3, 2008 at 12:46 AM
CNN and CBS are in the tank for Obama, so why do we care about what they report? The Luntz focus group probably more accurately reflects the ordinary American’s reaction, which is that they love Sarah Palin. She is one of them.
Phil Byler on October 3, 2008 at 12:47 AM
Even the Guardian giving her praise.
Ripclawe on October 3, 2008 at 12:47 AM
I very seriously doubt that that will happen.
McCain will never ‘out’ his Democrat Fraternity brothers. He may occasionally argue with them, but he always has been very much a “Senatorius Uber Alles’, defending his peers at the expense of us commoners.
Come on, John, Prove me wrong. I beg you. Prove me wrong.
LegendHasIt on October 3, 2008 at 12:48 AM
I hope so, that would be gold!
kongzilla on October 3, 2008 at 12:49 AM
I hope you’re right. McCain’s camp seems to be sleeping through
attackslies lately. I would love to seem them nuke the other side with the truth. But, I think we dream the impossible dream.Dulcinea, out.
Laura in Maryland on October 3, 2008 at 12:50 AM
My sense is that (however uncommon it may be) is that people WANT to vote for John McCain, but they were worried about Sarah Palin being “a heartbeat away”.
Sarah didn’t just hit a home run. She crushed it out of the park.
Tuning Spork on October 3, 2008 at 12:50 AM
I’m watching Cris Matthews show right now and they have a bunch of libtard kids cheering every time the Obama ticket has good news and booing whenever they have anything positive to say about Palin. They also have a bunch of far left slogans on makeshift signs.
Cr4sh Dummy on October 3, 2008 at 12:52 AM
McCain-Palin are going to win. You watch. Obama’s and Biden’s positions are too liberal for the country. McCain and Palin stand for the country. It will come together in th elast two weeks of the election.
Phil Byler on October 3, 2008 at 12:58 AM
The vote on the Drudge Report so far has Sarah Palin winning the debate with 71% of the votes.
Phil Byler on October 3, 2008 at 1:00 AM
It happened so frequently, I didn’t want to get riled so I let it go. But HOW MANY CHARACTERS DID BIDEN ASSASSINATE TONIGHT?
Judge Bork, Biden’s proud to be a pure partisan bitch.
VP Cheney, most dangerous man alive, worse than bin Laden.
Gen. Petraeus, doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
John McCain, Biden’s the revised maverick aisle jumper with military prowess and coordinated diplomacy.
Sarah Palin, if she doesn’t give Biden what he wants, he’s going to scream “drill, drill, drill.”
maverick muse on October 3, 2008 at 1:05 AM
Biden lost big time in this debate, but there is someone else who lost even bigger.
KATIE COURIC! She is now exposed as the liberal in the tank for Oslime-a hack that she is. All the people who saw her interview and then watched this debate are saying…
“WHAT THE **** WAS KATIE UP TO?”
csdeven on October 3, 2008 at 1:08 AM
Heh. What a dope. How about this:
Terrorists (Ayers) Uber Alles
Racist demagogues (Wright) Uber Alles
Thug Chicago crooks (Rezko) Uber alles
Uh, then, basic Germans Uber Alles
Think I’ll take American fickin’ senators Uber Alles by comparison (except Dodd, et al)
JonPrichard on October 3, 2008 at 1:09 AM
His career as a semi-serious journalist (and he was one, once) died with the “thrill” line. It was on life-support, but it died then. His sole viewers are kooks in tin-foil hats, and he is at the bottom ratings-wise for that network. To make kooks in tin-foil hats happy, you damn well better be a kook wearing one, and have plenty in the background.
Marcus on October 3, 2008 at 1:10 AM
The only forceful points that Biden made tonight were backed up with factual errors. Obama is not ready, Joe said so. Joe told Obama not to vote against the funding for the troops. Obama did anyway. Etc, etc, etc.
csdeven on October 3, 2008 at 1:11 AM
Yeah, a Manny Rameriz smack DEEEEP to center field bleachers!
(:P sorry Cubbies fans)
JonPrichard on October 3, 2008 at 1:12 AM
I certainly hope that is the plan. Oreilly fought with Barney Frank tonight. I would love to see that guy go down after this. Chris Dodd all of them who have been hiding this from the American people!!!! These politicians need to be held accountable. But McCain probably won’t do it. I just don’t think he has the stomach for it.
petunia on October 3, 2008 at 1:16 AM
What? Two left-leaning news organizations declaring that a Democrat won a debate in which he got his butt handed to him in?
[i]unpossible[/i].
They decided he won long before the debate started. The only work they had was finding the way to justify it.
On both substance and style, Biden lost. Anything of substance, he either contradicts himself, makes up facts, or comes off as another Thurston Howell III. (I asked this guy [from my limo] [at the full service station] how much he pays to full up his tank. He said he didn’t know! [Actually, my chauffeur asked him, and the guy told him to get lost].”
I don’t know about you, but when gas costs so much that I can’t fill up my tank, I pay even more attention on how much it costs to fill it half way. People like Biden don’t know, because they don’t care. That’s what the taxpayer’s money is for.
And listening him chide the status quo for the current economic meltdown is just as funny. He’s the representative of old politics, and you have to either be really biased or pretty stupid not to see that.
Exit comment question: aren’t the Bosniaks some offshoot of the Decepticons?
CatsGodot on October 3, 2008 at 1:23 AM
Allahpundit. I am tired of your carping about Sarah Palin. She won that election. If you have negative feeling toward the Republican candidates, why don’t you just move to the Daily Kos. They seem to share your opinion. I am removing this from my must read blogs, unless Ed is the writer.
Zelsdorf Ragshaft on October 3, 2008 at 1:24 AM
McCain might have thought the bipartisan position on the bailout was the right choice, however you could see in the “life is unfair” interview he did yesterday that he was truly upset that he wasn’t getting the credit he thought he deserved. I think any remaining thoughts in his mind that he is going to get treated fairly by the media are surly 100% gone at this point. There is nothing left holding him back from a full force attack.
johnt on October 3, 2008 at 1:24 AM
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
MB4 on October 3, 2008 at 1:27 AM
wait until tuesday. i think we’ll see a new mccain
CHECK 1, country first, pass the bailout
CHECK 2, unload on the dems like dodd and frank for causing this
battleoflepanto1571 on October 3, 2008 at 1:28 AM
Blah f***ing blah, wah f***ing wah. God you people are tiresome. I’m glad at least you’re not going to read anymore you whiny b**ch.
This was an absolute tie. They both did very well, with a few stumbles a piece.
A great recovery for Palin and, considering 20+ years in government, a good performance by Biden.
This is all fluff anyway.
SouthernDem on October 3, 2008 at 1:29 AM
First off, I’m so glad you’re back.
To address the main point: As long as she didn’t bomb it was a success. Really, try to look at this as a centrist would. She performed well, no more, no less.
SouthernDem on October 3, 2008 at 1:32 AM
Phfft. According to HuffPo:
On the other hand, Frank Luntz just quizzed his focus group on FOX (which was, strangely enough, sponsored by Budweiser, owned by Anheuser-Busch, of which Cindy McCain’s Hensley company is the third largest distributor).
Get a clue! The only people who loved Palin are conservatives. Independents and undecideds are going for Joe!
barry norris on October 3, 2008 at 1:33 AM
It wouldn’t be Hotair.com if we didn’t have Allah finding the most negative thing possible to deflate whatever excitement or positive the McCain campaign might possess at any given moment. It’s to the point where I’m beginning to wonder if Allah is on Axelrod’s payroll. AP’s got to get the money for his iPhone apps somewhere.
But seriously, thank god for Ed Morrissey, the only thing tolerable about this site anymore.
Vyce on October 3, 2008 at 1:35 AM
MB4 on October 3, 2008 at 1:27 AM
Yes, please. It’s like someone moving to your hometown and then trashing it. What is the deal?
Cindy Munford on October 3, 2008 at 1:39 AM
Yah, two AP’s and it would be dark like ANWR on Dec. 21st.
Sapwolf on October 3, 2008 at 1:39 AM
What?!!!! HotAirHeads don’t all think alike?????!!!!!
The shame! Sepuku is the only answer.
Sarah did fine but the indies were looking for a knockout. She didn’t deliver that. That’s not me talking, that is Joe and Jane Pleb. IF (caps on purpose) the MSM can keep the doom and gloom up with the peeps then it is going to be a long four years. That is a big if. Lots of outside factors could still inject themselves into this race.
Keep fighting folks. Feral Boy and Raggedy Man haven’t arrived yet.
Limerick on October 3, 2008 at 1:40 AM
Allah needs to pay attention more to his boss. There’s a reason she’s his boss. She’s smarter and more attractive than he is. It’s kind of the same scenario that happened tonight in the debate.
‘Nuff said.
Sultry Beauty on October 3, 2008 at 1:41 AM
Biden did well, but he was expected to, so I doubt that he won anyone over for Obama. Palin did reasonably well, and very well on style and “cool”, and was not expected to do well at all, so I think that she probably pulled over/back a small percentage of Independents and undecideds, although not enough for McCain to win .
MB4 on October 3, 2008 at 1:43 AM
Entitlement mentality.
MB4 on October 3, 2008 at 1:45 AM
If some of the rest of us seem to have more faith in him than you do… for me at least, it’s new-found faith.
I was absolutely convinced he was going to pick Romney, Pawlenty, or Lieberman for his VP.
After that most pleasant of surprises, I’m willing to have faith another week on the financial crisis. I’m just hoping the bill is through the House in time for McCain to open up with both barrels over the weekend and take the fight straight to Obama in the debate Tuesday.
ClintACK on October 3, 2008 at 1:46 AM
Isn’t it fitting that Linda Douglas, a former member of the MSN, is a spokesperson for the Obama campaign?!!?
I liked hearing (and seeing) Kristen Powers say, in the run up to the debate, that the media is in the tank for Obama.
Gohawgs on October 3, 2008 at 1:47 AM
I’ll be around as long as I can. Fall gets real busy for me.
I agree. She did well and it really just gets the “Palin is a dope” monkey off the table. Now McCain needs to go after these turds just like Sarah did.
Another value in this debate was to expose the talking points that Oslime-a will use when the issues of troops bombing civilians etc are used in the next debate.
From what I seen of Biden’s answers, I think McCain gets the better of the exchange. So, I say go after Oslime-a on FM and FM, de-funding the troops, meeting with Iran, tax increases, etc. I don’t think Oslime-a has any kind of responses that he can use to defend his past positions without comeing off as a liar.
AND, we might just see a shift in the way the MSM reports this stuff. Sarah was sharp and that might just give the MSM the cover they need to be more balanced without appearing to be anti-black.
Yeah, I know…Keep dreamin’.
csdeven on October 3, 2008 at 1:47 AM
MSN, MSM…same thing
Gohawgs on October 3, 2008 at 1:47 AM
Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… …..well ……… I have others.
- Groucho
MB4 on October 3, 2008 at 1:48 AM
So half of the Luntz group were conservative Kerry voters? Uh huh.
Maybe just stick with Huff’s six degrees of beer separation. It’s really the best argument you’ve got.
Ronnie on October 3, 2008 at 1:49 AM
Comprehension and logic not your strong point, huh?
If McCain uses ANY of the ammunition, including any of the examples you give, I’ll be happily surprised.
We both hope that McCain hits Obama with stuff like that. But based on a long history and personal knowledge, I’m betting he will not; while with no historical evidence to the contrary, you believe he will. Who is the dope?
Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Again, I pray that McCain proves I’m wrong.
LegendHasIt on October 3, 2008 at 1:49 AM
Can’t you guys see it?
AP=KP.
csdeven on October 3, 2008 at 1:49 AM
She dominated this night, but as usual, the MSM is gonna spin, spit out polls that assert Biden won, and I’ll probably get an email from Obama telling me now “all the polls agree, Biden was the clear winner, won’t you please give a brother $5.”
El_Terrible on October 3, 2008 at 1:51 AM
If he doesn’t, then he doesn’t deserve to be President.
But I think (hope) you’ll be pleasantly surprised.
The one thing you can count on with McCain is that he means what he says. He’s said over and over, “I will make them famous. You will know their names.” Heck, the main theme of his campaign is that he’ll go and fight the corrupt legislators in Congress. His campaign strategy so far has been to SHOW rather than TELL — and he’s been handed a golden opportunity to stop talking about his primary theme and actually show it, in two parts: (i) Country First; (ii) Taking on Corruption.
ClintACK on October 3, 2008 at 1:51 AM
No one gave her credit for a great convention speech either. The polls will tell.
Ronnie on October 3, 2008 at 1:53 AM
AP needs to toe the line!!!11!
No, seriously, you people, quit reading this site.
F***ing infants.
SouthernDem on October 3, 2008 at 1:54 AM
Peter Boyd (Ronald Reagan)-Bedtime for Bonzo
Limerick on October 3, 2008 at 1:54 AM
And by polls, I don’t mean surveys of people who claim to be independents. Half the staff at MSNBC claim to be independents.
Ronnie on October 3, 2008 at 1:54 AM
The rumour is Allahpundit is New Yorkish
A Lawyer who’s playing peek-a-boo
Were I Allahpundit, I’d feel rather skittish
I’d feel it too
It’s possible our hero flirts with danger
How he wishes KP would flirt with he
Methinks the evening will grow even stranger
Ah, mais oui
Tav on October 3, 2008 at 1:55 AM
Totally agree, this was a “talking points” and attack the nominee debate and Palin held her own.
Again, well done.
SouthernDem on October 3, 2008 at 1:55 AM
My only problem with the name names trap is now he has to name himself if that bailout bill gets through.
Limerick on October 3, 2008 at 1:57 AM
As I’ve said many times before (and with this he supports my thought) Allah is a moron.
MobileVideoEngineer on October 3, 2008 at 1:57 AM
Sarah’Cuda kicked bu77 and took names, sayeth my gracious and lovely wife……….
mredly on October 3, 2008 at 2:00 AM
Well, so far, that VP pick is the ONLY time that McCain has ever surprised me.
The thing is, that with McCain, when I’m wrong, I’m happy to be wrong. Unfortunately, I’ve only been happy once and unfortunately right hundreds of times.
LegendHasIt on October 3, 2008 at 2:03 AM
This one! At about 2 minutes in is where the fireworks begin!
geckomon on October 3, 2008 at 2:03 AM
Go back and watch McCain hammering Romney on a single poorly worded statement he gave on Iraq — one he had tried to build into more than it was.
Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1656956581123179301
John McCain can be a pit bull, too, when he wants to…
ClintACK on October 3, 2008 at 2:03 AM
Of course, my favorite part of the debate was this exchange early on in the debate:
“Stand up Gwen, let me see you,” “Oh, God love you, what I am talking about?”
hot-heir on October 3, 2008 at 2:03 AM
I trust that Luntz tries to be fair with his focus groups. I’ve seen groups that have gone against the Republican as often as I’ve seen groups that have gone against the Democrat. I have never noticed any bias on his part, although he does seem to be excited about his job and it is easy to think that that excitement is about the results themselves.
Rose on October 3, 2008 at 2:03 AM
One important point I noticed: a woman in his focus group said she knew that Palin’s interviews were edited and everybody kind of mumbled “yeah.”
If they were not all conservative blog readers this is good news. That means even non-blog readers know the chicanery of the MSM.
PattyJ on October 3, 2008 at 2:04 AM
Colmes is certainly, definitively a pantywais, but Morris just infantile.
SouthernDem on October 3, 2008 at 2:08 AM
*pantywaist*
SouthernDem on October 3, 2008 at 2:09 AM
Lud love me, but I’m tired of this subject draggin’ on
Here, here! The fella’s just a man like you or me
These stories of his treachery only make me yawn
I see that Allahpundit does not move thee
As he has the impudence to keep us on our toes
And the arrogance to make us guess
Myself, I do not care to know his motives nor his address
Tav on October 3, 2008 at 2:11 AM
I never said otherwise. But Romney is NOT a a Senate Fraternity brother.
My whole point in this thread is that he cares more about his fellow Senators, (especially those who are even less conservative than he, but that’s a ‘whole nother discussion’), than he does about outsiders…. Like Romney, like Bush, like you, like me.
He may call them names on the Senate floor and in chambers and in private, and argue policy very stridently, but so far, he has always defended when WE are saying anything bad about them.
LegendHasIt on October 3, 2008 at 2:16 AM
Am I wrong for enjoying that as much as I did?
capitalist piglet on October 3, 2008 at 2:18 AM
I come here for the debates as well as the conversations. Without the debates this site wouldn’t be as interesting. Allah is doing a good job even though I probably disagree with him as often as I agree.
Rose on October 3, 2008 at 2:20 AM
If things don’t pan out this year, will 2012 even matter?
Maybe they’ll also point out that $12,000 isn’t the average annual premium either. I pay $1,200 a year for mine. I’m sure I’m not the only one.
xblade on October 3, 2008 at 2:24 AM
54% said Palin won or tied. Considering the experience gap, that’s a huge win for her. Remember last week they said a tie was a win for Obama for the same reasons. If that was true then, it’s true now.
eaglephin on October 3, 2008 at 2:29 AM
xblade 2:24
I don’t know the fine points to the insurance premium issue but I thought the discussion of the 12k revolved around the amount that the company pays in insurance premiums on your behalf.
Could be wrong…
Gohawgs on October 3, 2008 at 2:34 AM
You know, it’s the US Justice Dept that would be involved here. The US Justice Dept is an executive branch thing. John McCain, minority US Senator can’t initiate executive branch actions. George W Bush could though, if he wanted to help his party keep the White House and perhaps win a lot of congressional seats this time around.
funky chicken on October 3, 2008 at 2:35 AM
Sorry but those polls are total, unvarnished horse$hit. “473 uncommitted voters” in the CBS News rolodex? Give me a break. I wonder how many Code Pink members are in that 473?
I can face a loss and see it for what it is but when the polls are that far off from observable reality and the media is running the sampling you have to face the fact that most of these polls are being very, very heavily massaged.
Django on October 3, 2008 at 2:36 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen, Governor Sarah Palin: The REAL Terminator!
As for the Corrupt News Network and Complete Bull S*** polls, twenty bucks says they’re gamed to the gills.
I’ll take the Luntz group over rigged MSM polls every day of the week.
SuperCool on October 3, 2008 at 2:40 AM
Man, I am so disappointed by all the conservative websites’ recation. It’s so lacking of energy.
First, we let the MSM dictate the proceedings and break faith with our own candidate. And after all that pressure, Sarah delivers a knockout we sigh and say, “Thank god, she didn’t screw up.”
We should be up on our feet and cheering wildly. This was an amazing show by our Sarah. Let the pessimists like Kathleen Parker or Allah Pundit eat crap, our Sarah beat the s**t out of you.
promachus on October 3, 2008 at 2:56 AM
I agree. I’ve already heard it used on a radio newsbreak to try to sway people who didn’t watch the debate.
Which, of course, is precisely why they cook these up.
capitalist piglet on October 3, 2008 at 3:00 AM
There have been two debates so far. McCain won the first debate. Palin won the second debate. It’s that simple.
I realize Morris asserts that Obama won the first debate but that I don;t understand at all. Obama showed ignorance of foreign policy. McCain was wooping Obama in the last 30 minutes.
So, going forward, we should be saying that the McCain-Palin ticket has established itself as clearly the superior one.
Phil Byler on October 3, 2008 at 3:00 AM
All in all, a pretty good night watching Fox News…O’Reilly slapping Barney Google around; Kirsten Powers saying straight out that the media has a clear agenda in wanting Obama elected; the next VPOTUS field dressing the democratic ticket; and Morris loud talking Colmes while Hannity smirked…
Americans need to keep the momentum gained tonight moving forward…
Now, let the Enron style ‘perp walks’ commence on Wall Street and and in the halls of Congress…
Gohawgs on October 3, 2008 at 3:16 AM
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