New Spanish-language McCain ad: Joe Biden thinks Mexico is “dysfunctional”!
posted at 4:57 pm on October 1, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Yeah, crazy Joe and his crazy ideas. Here’s the source for his “dysfunctional” comment. Try to contain your outrage.
Joe Biden shared his views on illegal immigration with an Iowa crowd, saying that the solution starts with big changes in the Mexican economy.
“They’re being irresponsible. This is the second-wealthiest nation in the hemisphere – we’re not talking about Sierra Leone,” the Democratic presidential candidate said. “This is a dysfunctional society.”
The full translated script follows below. Exit question one: Who exactly is supposed to take exception to what Biden said? If Mexican immigrants turned U.S. citizens didn’t (fundamentally) agree with him, they wouldn’t be here. Exit question two: How “functional” is a government that distributes instructions to its citizens on how to sneak out of the country?
ANNCR: So what’s worse? That Barak Obama and his allies in Congress killed immigration reform?
Or that their immigration attacks were called “unfair” … “absolutely and directly wrong” … and even “fraudulent” by the press.
Or that Obama and his liberal allies think the U.S. has an immigration problem because Mexico is a quote, “dysfunctional society”.
They’ve said no to us long enough. This election, let’s tell them no.
JOHN MCCAIN: I’m John McCain and I approve this message.
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Ugh.
Abby Adams on October 1, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Juan Hernandez approves, too!
Michelle on October 1, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Biden speaks the truth.
lodge on October 1, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Biden 08!
Spirit of 1776 on October 1, 2008 at 5:01 PM
Along with 12-30 million illegals and their anchor babies.
Oh……and The Race.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 1, 2008 at 5:02 PM
BIDEN GETS ONE RIGHT! and McCain attacks him for it, LOL!
Fletch54 on October 1, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Disgusting!
TheSitRep on October 1, 2008 at 5:04 PM
Ummm, did I miss the annexation of Canada?
Elliott on October 1, 2008 at 5:04 PM
this should work, Mexicans coming here are Nationalistic. many anyway, if not all the talk of taking back the Southwest is a bunch of bunk.
jp on October 1, 2008 at 5:05 PM
Second look at Biden?
Mark1971 on October 1, 2008 at 5:05 PM
yep, another Biden Gaffe
msm: yawn……”LEAVE BARACK OBAMA ALONE”
jp on October 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM
It’s one of the world’s most resource rich countries and yet it also manages to be a poor country. It’s heavily dependent upon money the US sends it as well as remittances from the millions of Mexican citizens that have escaped to more prosperous places.
So, other than the fact that you just don’t say those kinds of things these days, where is Biden wrong?
JadeNYU on October 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Perhaps the U.S. is simply less dysfunctional; seeing the Congressional hysterics over the bailout disaster makes me believe it more with each passing day.
Bishop on October 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Smartest thing Biden ever said.. he must have been talking to the Guatemalans.
TexasJew on October 1, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Allahpundit, is that really you?
mycowardice on October 1, 2008 at 5:07 PM
I don’t know the statistics, but I think Brazil might be wealthier than Mexico too. I guess it depends on how you measure wealth.
Mark1971 on October 1, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Indeed. I have repeatedly spoken out in defense of Bill Ayers and his idea of bombing the Capitol.
lodge on October 1, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Ummm, did I miss the annexation of Canada?
Elliott on October 1, 2008 at 5:04 PM
Yeah – it’s in the Paulson bill, p.76.
How the hell do you think we’re going to pay back the Chinese?
TexasJew on October 1, 2008 at 5:08 PM
Biden is right.
We seem to twist ourselves in knots about the illegal immigration issue while ignoring the fact that Mexico simply exports its citizens rather than providing for them. It’s absurd.
Heaven forbid that we should hold Mexico accountable for their own people.
/sheesh
Cody1991 on October 1, 2008 at 5:09 PM
Crap, I agree with Biden.
first time evah
dc84123 on October 1, 2008 at 5:10 PM
For once Biden speaks the truth, and John McCain, tries to make him look stupid.
McCain has officially lost it fellas. He is 180 degress out of phase.
I guess McCain’s new motto is:
“If your gonna lose, might as well lose by a whole lot!”
TheHat on October 1, 2008 at 5:11 PM
Biden’s most endearing quality is that occasionally he lets the truth slip out.
DFCtomm on October 1, 2008 at 5:11 PM
Mexico IS dysfunctional – nobody knows that better than a Mexican. Bribes, corruption, and incompetence are a part of daily government action for those people.
TheUnrepentantGeek on October 1, 2008 at 5:11 PM
I think Biden is right on the money calling Mexico dysfunctional. But it isn’t their fault.
McDonald’s and Home Depot just didn’t outsource enough stores to Mexico.
leetpriest on October 1, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Biden is quite an interesting one. Liberal politicians often know just how crazy the world is and how crazy their own positions are – they’re just supposed keep that hidden so they can keep profiting from it.
Biden seems to know Mexico is basically insane, but he’s not supposed to say it!
Grafted on October 1, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Pop quiz, hotshot:
If Mexico is oh so bad, why do Mexicans wear jerseys and fly Mexican flags?
Because they still have a connection to their homeland.
Sir Andrew on October 1, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Silly attack, but it’s got backward, left-wing tactic potential. It opens McCain to lots of criticism.
I call a draw on this one. It may get the dimwitted hating on Scrappy Hairplugs
Damiano on October 1, 2008 at 5:14 PM
I think people on hotair needs to understand how a presidential campaign works. It’s a good ad that target a particular group of voters.
Critical thinking skills is important.
jdun on October 1, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Palin just mentioned on hannity that the MSM will not be able to edit and censor her comments in the debate like they have in interviews.
hahahaha, take it to them!!!!
jp on October 1, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Allah, would you please, please let McCain try to win 16% or 17% of the Hispanic vote, as opposed to the 12% or 13% he’ll get if he doesn’t try harder?
Much as many here disagree with him about immigration, he is a legitimate champion of less restrictive immigration policies. (Actually, that so many here are suspicious of him mostly because of the illegal immigration issue proves the point.)
Every vote counts. If New Mexico comes down to a few hundred votes (as it did in 2004), we won’t begrudge him this ad.
JudetheFossil on October 1, 2008 at 5:15 PM
McCain sure doesn’t want to make this election easy for us.
Esthier on October 1, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Let him?
I didn’t know Allah was keeping anyone from voting McCain.
Esthier on October 1, 2008 at 5:17 PM
For once Biden has spoken the truth. Probably won’t happen again.
Badger40 on October 1, 2008 at 5:17 PM
Biden is right, but the point is that had McCain been the one to say it, all the Mexican groups would be shouting “¡Racista!”
Kafir on October 1, 2008 at 5:17 PM
McCain should speak Spanish at the end of this ad.
Seixon on October 1, 2008 at 5:18 PM
<blockquotePop quiz, hotshot:
If Mexico is oh so bad, why do Mexicans wear jerseys and fly Mexican flags?
Because they still have a connection to their homeland.
Sir Andrew on October 1, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Friend,
You’re wrong.
Mexicans wear that because they think that the southwestern portion of the U.S. belongs to them.
leetpriest on October 1, 2008 at 5:19 PM
So … are Mexicans voting this time around?
darwin on October 1, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Something like…..”Yo soy Juan McCain y Yo….”?
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Yes
Mark1971 on October 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Diversity breeds separatism. Good one, Mac.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on October 1, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Merci beaucoup.
Mr_Magoo on October 1, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Speak for yourself, jackass.
People like you who aren’t holding the republican party responsible for making poor candidate choices that pander to the left will be the new subject of my scrutiny when McCain has our children listening to Daddy Yankee and selling chicklets on the side of the road for 5 cents a pack.
leetpriest on October 1, 2008 at 5:26 PM
It does. Multiculturalism leads to balkanization. Look at the UK if you don’t believe it.
lorien1973 on October 1, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Biden finally gets something right, though he still had to throw out a piece of evidence of his extreme stupidity about the wealth of nations in our hemisphere.
Doesn’t matter, anyway. Both BHO and McCain will open the floodgates. Yes, we are all screwed. Nothing but a severe recession will be able to drain the illegals from our country, since we all know that our government is totally incapable of doing anything that takes brains or guts or a commitment to the rule of law.
progressoverpeace on October 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM
The citizenship oath does still make you renounce all allegiances to other nations, right? So why this ad? Making non-English ads is one thing, but making ads designed to appeal to your love of another country seems another step up to me.
kc8ukw on October 1, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Excellent ad….if you want people to vote for Biden.
What a total and complete jackass ad. I honestly cant believe it.
I live in socal and let me tell you something in case you hadnt noticed…Mexico is a shithole. Yeah, the resorts are nice and its a great place to get drunk if you are 17 or something but the government there has made that country a shithole.
McCain doesnt know that cause he is stupid as hell. How the hell am I supposed to vote for this idiot? Oh yeah…obama is worse (I think).
You know, I think I like Biden more than McCain…but I hate Obama the worst so I am all blasted.
Roger Waters on October 1, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Uh… guys?
There’s a big difference between saying another country’s government is dysfunctional and saying their society is dysfunctional.
No doubt many Americans of Mexican heritage would agree that the governance of Mexico is screwed up, but calling their society dysfunctional speaks against the entire country and culture.
Hollowpoint on October 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM
We don’t even have to look that far. All you have to do is travel to Illinois, where their motto is “America’s CHICKENS……………is come home…….to rooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooost”
leetpriest on October 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Even a blind squirrel can find a nut now and then.
Come on everyone, stand up for Joe!
Bishop on October 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Stupid ad. McCain needs to stay away from this subject altogether. Now, how does Palin respond to a question along this line tomorrow night? He put her in a box.
a capella on October 1, 2008 at 5:33 PM
That is true but it also doesn’t stop immigrants from marching with Mexican flags and thinking that Mexico is a great country. I know that doesn’t make sense since there was obviously something that made them leave, but that is what they think. That is why the ad will be more effective than you give it credit for.
And I agree with Hollowpoint.
MyriadScreed on October 1, 2008 at 5:37 PM
McCain is an idiot.
jaime on October 1, 2008 at 5:38 PM
I never got the impression Biden was saying Mexicans are dysfunctional.
Maybe you could argue your point?
Esthier on October 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM
<blockquoteUh… guys?
There’s a big difference between saying another country’s government is dysfunctional and saying their society is dysfunctional.
No doubt many Americans of Mexican heritage would agree that the governance of Mexico is screwed up, but calling their society dysfunctional speaks against the entire country and culture.
Hollowpoint on October 1, 2008 at 5:31 PM
A society that openly takes a fat piss on a neighboring country’s immigration laws, consistently builds tunnels to funnel drugs, illegal aliens (which eats up your tax dollars, mind you), and enslaved prostitutes, and thinks that the sanitary way to cut up a watermelon is to kill a live chicken with a butcher knife first, and not clean it off before cutting up the watermelon with the same knife.
Yep, one hell of a society they have down in that wonderful country.
leetpriest on October 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM
We call it ‘Las Angeles.’
trailboss on October 1, 2008 at 5:41 PM
yeah, yeah, even a stopped clock is right twice every day
so okay, Biden is now officially only 99% DUMB
Janos Hunyadi on October 1, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Lets go with a Biden/ Palin ticket. I would vote for that.
Better yet, lets go with a Romney/ Biden ticket or a Romney/ Pat Buchanan ticket. that would rule.
Roger Waters on October 1, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Romney/Romney. Anne would be fabulous as veep.
trailboss on October 1, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Der Gaffenmeister habla la verdad.
Entelechy on October 1, 2008 at 5:44 PM
I don’t care how McCain wins, I want him to win. All of you so-called conservatives are whining over nonsense. Please go get a life. Obama is running around claiming to be pro-life, while voting for babies to be killed, and you guys are here whining about a McCain ad.
This is hard-ball right now, and I support anything McCain has to do to win. You have the media actively campaigning for Obama, and now, u whiny conservatives too? Give me a break.
Chudi on October 1, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Good to know that both major candidates are forced to pander to people loyal to another nation.
Just great.
spmat on October 1, 2008 at 5:46 PM
When righties speak the truth they’re racists, bigots, and other unacceptables.
What are lefties who speak the truth designated?
Entelechy on October 1, 2008 at 5:46 PM
“trailboss on October 1, 2008 at 5:43 P”
Yeah, that would be cool. And then we could get them crowns and thrones and call them King and Queen. What the hell” Better than Obama who thinks he is God.
Roger Waters on October 1, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Shut up, John.
Nichevo on October 1, 2008 at 5:48 PM
Well Mexico’s economy will get better with Obama because all your jobs will be outsourced to Mexico because of HIGH Taxes!!!!!!
And No New companies will build new factories or businesses will invest here her because of High corporate taxes , environmental standards, regulations, and high wages..
So… Vote Obama/Biden so your job can be outsourced and you can be on welfare
Chakra Hammer on October 1, 2008 at 5:48 PM
After Palin, I began to rationalize that voting for Juan McCain upon the premise that at least when compared with Hussein Fauxbambi, McCain wouldn’t intentionally try to destroy the country as Faxbambi would. But at this point, can anyone be sure there’s any difference between them?
One thing I have often wondered is whether there might be any Hispanic readers/writers on this blog and whether any of you feel more favorable to McCain because he speaks directly to Hispanics(en espanol), or are you righteously insulted by the whole craven panderfest?
Western_Civ on October 1, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Well Mexico’s economy will get better with Obama because all your jobs will be outsourced to Mexico because of HIGH Taxes!!!!!!
And No New companies, new factories or businesses will built or will invest here here because of High corporate taxes , environmental standards, regulations, and high wages..
So… Vote Obama/Biden so your job can be outsourced and you can be on welfare
Chakra Hammer on October 1, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Groan, but true. Argh.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 1, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Obama/Biden a vote for being forced onto welfare.
Chakra Hammer on October 1, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Si, si! Si se puede, Senor Maverick!
ManlyRash on October 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM
First off, son, “u” is not a word. Get an education.
And this:
This is the reason we have a moderate candidate going up against a liberal candidate, instead of a Conservative going up against a moderate, because people like you refuse to stand firm in beliefs and principals.
leetpriest on October 1, 2008 at 5:53 PM
‘King Mitt.’ Has a nice ring to it. Much better that ‘Obamanation our savior and redeemer.’
trailboss on October 1, 2008 at 5:53 PM
It’s pretty obvious that African Americans can call each other the “N” word, but no one else can.
Same, same here. A Hispanic can call his society dysfunctional, but no one else can. That’s a fact and we ought to be thanking Greasy Joe for his Gafftastic qualities.
Again AP, it’s pretty obvious….
How “functional” is a government that allows a black supremest white hating terrorist sympathizer get this close to the presidency? All the political help he has received to get where he is today, is a stain on this country.
csdeven on October 1, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Allah, the merciful, peace be unto his name, is all-knowing and all-powerful. Keep that in mind, Kafir.
factoid on October 1, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Everyone could simply stop working. Period. The US would collapse in a matter of weeks. Of course it would get ugly, but that’s the fastest way to clean house.
darwin on October 1, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Who’s house are you thinking of cleaning, Kimosabe’?
trailboss on October 1, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Biden’s gaffes are only gaffes if he’s trying to elect Obama. I’ve got the feeling he is secretly on the payroll of Team Clinton.
cornwall on October 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM
The people’s house. Whose house are you thinking of?
darwin on October 1, 2008 at 5:58 PM
You’d have to define the ‘people’s house’ for me.
trailboss on October 1, 2008 at 6:01 PM
SECOND LOOK AT BIDEN!!!!!
malan89 on October 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Question: Where does this rest with Operation Slingblade?
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 1, 2008 at 6:09 PM
Do you not see a difference between the society of a particular country and the government of that country? Would you say that American society should be defined by it’s government?
Hollowpoint on October 1, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Are you saying that a society and its government are independent entities that bear no relation to each other? Really?
Governments are very good representations of their societies and neither strays very far from the other.
The ex-Spanish colonies are all pretty much basket cases.
progressoverpeace on October 1, 2008 at 6:18 PM
Gee, I wonder why the Republican party hasn’t done better with Hispanic voters. Can’t quite put my finger on it…
Hollowpoint on October 1, 2008 at 6:19 PM
Is it wrong of me to completely agree with Biden on this one???
truthmattersfa on October 1, 2008 at 6:24 PM
I dislike Biden, but he is correct. Mexico IS dysfunctional.
chalons on October 1, 2008 at 6:24 PM
A society and it’s government aren’t completely independent of each other, but a society is defined by it’s people, not it’s government. I’m sure you can think of some examples that illustrate the point.
Would you have no problem if, in response to any particular US government policy, someone called American culture dysfunctional? Or do you believe that the US government and the politicians thereof are completely representative of society at large?
Hollowpoint on October 1, 2008 at 6:25 PM
For any extended period of time? I don’t think so. If you have an example in mind, I’d be happy to consider it. But, given the fact that there are many societies and many governments, there should be a plethora of such examples.
I don’t really care what others think of America. And our government is reflective of our society. Not in every single little decision, obviously, but for the great bulk of actions, policies, and attitudes.
Yes. Our government represents our society very well.
progressoverpeace on October 1, 2008 at 6:30 PM
If it is, about half of us are just as wrong.
+10. Awesome and exactly right on every point.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 1, 2008 at 6:32 PM
Thanks, Grue.
*feeds*
progressoverpeace on October 1, 2008 at 6:36 PM
Probably for the same reason that Democratic party hasn’t done well with Christians or Gun owners, smart ass.
leetpriest on October 1, 2008 at 6:37 PM
Either you have a much better opinion of our politicians or a much worse view towards American society than I do.
Hollowpoint on October 1, 2008 at 6:41 PM
Finally, something Joe and I can agree on. Mexico is Dysfunctional, it looks like the movies El Mariachi and Desperado were actually documentaries.
Tim Burton on October 1, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Have you taken a moment to step outside of our country in the last 20 years?
I just left South Korea last year after being stationed there for a few years, and they hate us. They riot our military bases because our government and their government agreed on free trade.
There isn’t a country in this world that wouldn’t jump at the thought of calling us dysfunctional.
leetpriest on October 1, 2008 at 6:42 PM
I love America. The US is the best country I can think of to have grown up in, to work in, to live in. But there is a lot about America that makes my skin crawl as well… and I think not all but a lot of our politicians embody the worst of it.
It’s why it didn’t hit me at first exactly what BO meant when he said way back when things like “our country isn’t what it could be”… in a lot of ways I think similarly, it’s probably the ONLY thing I share with Obama-sama’s line of thought. The difference is the things we think are wrong are diametrically opposite.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 1, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Government is a primary aspect of society, not separate from it.
FloatingRock on October 1, 2008 at 6:46 PM
Or perhaps you’re delusional or just plain stupid. Take Dodd, Frank, Cox, Paulson, Pelosi, Reid, Waters, Boxer, Obama, Clinton (The list goes on and on and on), and compare them to your average elitist liberal citizen. Compare them on terms of revenue and spending, lack of morality, distaste for life, hatred for guns, and self-righteous.
Your rebuttal, sir?
leetpriest on October 1, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Republicans slamming Dems for xenophobia…that’s a good one.
philnewkirk on October 1, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Not forthcoming. You are not worthy of my time. Let the nice sane people talk.
Hollowpoint on October 1, 2008 at 6:53 PM
He actually asked a pretty good question, one I’d like your answer to as well.
*eats*
Grue in the Attic on October 1, 2008 at 6:56 PM
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