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Defining “moderator”

posted at 7:51 am on October 1, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Perhaps the Commission on Presidential Debates doesn’t understand the term “moderator”.  According to Websters Dictionary, the word refers to a mediator, someone unaffiliated or neutral between two or more positions to facilitate discussion and negotiation.  Jim Lehrer moderated the first presidential debate between Barack Obama and John McCain, and did a fine job, mostly because he gave the appearance of fairness and objectivity.  Lehrer hasn’t written books or magazine articles praising one of these men, nor does he have a financial interest in the outcome of the election.

Instead, as Michelle Malkin notes, the CPD has chosen Gwen Ifill, the PBS host and author of an upcoming book on Barack Obama scheduled for publication on Inauguration Day, to moderate the debate between Sarah Palin and Joe Biden:

In an imaginary world where liberal journalists are held to the same standards as everyone else, Ifill would be required to make a full disclosure at the start of the debate. She would be required to turn to the cameras and tell the national audience that she has a book coming out on January 20, 2009 – a date that just happens to coincide with the inauguration of the next president of the United States.

The title of Ifill’s book? “Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama.” Nonpartisan my foot.

Ifill’s publisher, Random House, is already busy hyping the book with YouTube clips of Ifill heaping praise on her subjects, including Obama and Obama-endorsing Mass. Governor Deval Patrick.

Here’s the YouTube clip of Ifill explaining her book:

Let’s say for the sake of argument that Ifill doesn’t show any particular bias in this book towards Obama, even though Michelle documents both an Essence flack job and complaints about her coverage of the Republican convention that make her bias clear.  Instead, let’s just focus on the financial interest Ifill has in an Obama victory in five weeks.  If Obama loses, how will her book sell?  Not nearly as well as if Obama wins, and everyone knows that.

Moderators should not have a financial stake in the election.  That should be exceedingly obvious, and is to most people outside of the mainstream media and the Commission.  Her pending book publication should alone disqualify her to moderate any of the debates this cycle.  If Ifill had any sense of journalistic ethics, she would have turned them down herself.

Of course, the CPD could make this a habit.  Let’s have Brent Bozell and Glenn Beck moderate the final two presidential debates.  After all, that fits perfectly in the new Ifill tradition.

Update: T-Steel, one of The Moderate Voice’s rational and sane center-left writers, wonders what the CPD was thinking:

My dear ladies and gentlemen, in Election ‘08 where partisanship is as thick as a the foundation of the Empire State Building, having a moderator that appears “so friendly” to Senator Obama just doesn’t look right and opens the door to “the fix” talk. Although Ifill isn’t one of those screaming political pundits, I’ve heard her on various radio shows (especially urban radio) where she just gushes about Senator Obama’s historic run for the presidency. And with so much riding on Governor Palin’s performance in this debate, why have someone with an Obama tilt moderate? While I’m hardly a conservative and/or Republican (I do have a smattering of some conservative views), they have every right to not like this situation. And I would say the same if the moderator was a person who gushed about a McCain presidency.

I have a hard time believing that Gwen Ifill will NOT be tougher toward Governor Palin than Senator Biden. She seems to have much vested in an Obama presidency. She is a professional. She may moderate fairly. But with today’s political environment, couldn’t PBS find someone who hasn’t written a book and articles that are clearly positive to ultra-positive towards Senator Obama?

Update II: No, Kathryn Jean Lopez did not say Republicans should just “suck it up” regarding Ifill.  She was quoting an e-mailer.  She said that the idea that the blame lies on the four Republicans at the CPD was a “fair one”, and I agree.  What were they thinking when they signed off on Ifill?


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Andrea Mitchell was not on the board of Fannie Mae. Goldberg mentioned that she is reporting on the crisis likely with inside info from her husband.

Tuning Spork on October 1, 2008 at 8:31 AM

Who said anything about Mitchell’s being on the Fannie Mae board? I didn’t. If you think I did, re-read my comment.

BuckeyeSam on October 1, 2008 at 8:39 AM

Just wait for columns from George Will, Kathleen Parker, and Andrew Sullivan defending their fair and balanced colleague and chastising you nitwits, certainly not in Ms. Ifill’s league. Neanderthals, you all!!!

Marcus on October 1, 2008 at 8:39 AM

And that statement is exactly why you need to come to places like this and pimp out your blog.

Keemo on October 1, 2008 at 8:38 AM

Blog pimps are despicable. I never click on their links because I know they are simply looking to make money off of my hit on their page. The stupider the statement, the more people want to engage him on his blog.

csdeven on October 1, 2008 at 8:40 AM

This is the excuse that both liberals and conservatives use when their candidate is losing.

This is “excuse” fool, this is a verifiable fact.

rplat on October 1, 2008 at 8:41 AM

I’ve heard that Biden is going to take the line that Palin doesn’t make sense or understand issues by interjecting comments like “I don’t know what the gov. means by that” which will provide a nice followup for Ifill.

The fix is in.

moxie_neanderthal on October 1, 2008 at 8:41 AM

She is a professional. She may moderate fairly. But with today’s political environment, couldn’t PBS find someone who hasn’t written a book and articles that are clearly positive to ultra-positive towards Senator Obama?

She’s not a professional, unless we’re speaking of shills as an occupation. If she were truly a professional, she would have admitted she was incapable of impartiality and declined to do this.

AubieJon on October 1, 2008 at 8:43 AM

I just want to know one thing:

HOW DO PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH THIS!!!????????????

and another thing:

WHAT CAN BE DONE TO STOP THIS??

Michelle? Please help???

moonlighter on October 1, 2008 at 8:44 AM

Republicans need to grow a pair. I don’t understand why the Mc Cain camp is not making a big issue about this. I believe that we can no longer wait for the republican wimps; it is time for us to go on the offensive and strike back at the left wing media. We need to hit them where hurt the most, their cash.

pukara61 on October 1, 2008 at 8:44 AM

I’ve heard that Biden is going to take the line that Palin doesn’t make sense or understand issues by interjecting comments like “I don’t know what the gov. means by that” which will provide a nice followup for Ifill.

The fix is in.

moxie_neanderthal on October 1, 2008 at 8:41 AM

Where did you hear this?

Wethal on October 1, 2008 at 8:44 AM

BuckeyeSam on October 1, 2008 at 8:39 AM

Ah. The “just stepped down” part was in parentheses and I read it a full sentence. My bad. :)

Tuning Spork on October 1, 2008 at 8:44 AM

Ifill would be required to make a full disclosure at the start of the debate.

If she doesn’t, the first time Palin is called upon to speak, Palin should point out why Ifill should have done so.

burt on October 1, 2008 at 8:45 AM

Coulter would moderate fairly, but only because she can’t stand McCain either.

fossten on October 1, 2008 at 8:45 AM

This is maddening!

Obama needn’t bother buying advertisements, since the media have been his Personal Bullshit Service since the beginning of the campaign.

hillbillyjim on October 1, 2008 at 8:45 AM

She is a professional. She may moderate fairly. But with today’s political environment, couldn’t PBS find someone who hasn’t written a book and articles that are clearly positive to ultra-positive towards Senator Obama?

No offense to Ed.

This attitude is the problem. It’s time to stop asking for fairness. Time to stop complaining about the rampant bias.

It’s time for action. It’s fun to live in our own little bubble pretending that the media is a dinosaur that is losing relevance by the second.

The fact is the media has been attempting to destroy the McCain campaign. A quick look at the trends in the polls tells you they are succeeding.

Just a couple of days ago I woke up to the fact that our chances of losing this election are much better than our chances of winning. Partially this is due to McCain’s erratic behavior, & Palin’s penchant for walking into gotcha interviews with little or no preparation.

But mainly it is due to the fact that the media has continued to spew disdain and partisanship in every area of media. To believe that this tactic is no longer effective or that the public is more nuanced to media bias is a mistake.

Obama is not a Clinton era democrat. His leadership and a fawning media will be devastating to freedom and prosperity in this country.

Let’s Become Conservative Community Organizers.

Dorvillian on October 1, 2008 at 8:46 AM

Have some faith, folks, in Sarah.

As Donald Sutherland said, “Don’t hit me with those negative waves!”

Limerick on October 1, 2008 at 8:46 AM

May already be posted, but the McCain campaign did NOT know about this book before agreeing to Ifill; Write to the debate pres.@ jb@debates.org and keep them coming. If nothing else it may force Ifill to behave herself.

anniekc on October 1, 2008 at 8:47 AM

99% of the people watching the debate will not have a clue about Ifell’s obvious bias. So Sarah Palin needs to have a humorous zinger or two to use on the moderator, if she feels she is getting jobbed.

james23 on October 1, 2008 at 8:47 AM

pukara61 on October 1, 2008 at 8:44 AM

Sure. Any ideas?

red131 on October 1, 2008 at 8:47 AM

BTW: If you missed this yesterday, read it…

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_093008/content/01125106.member.html

Keemo on October 1, 2008 at 8:47 AM

Gwen wants to break into the big leagues, get out of PBS and try for a shot of hobnobbing with Diane Sawyer; this will not be a good thing for Palin.

Bishop on October 1, 2008 at 8:47 AM

Does Gwen Ifill double as a Community Organizer on her days off?

jay12 on October 1, 2008 at 8:49 AM

Just tried to call the CPD, line is busy.

ROFL!

fossten on October 1, 2008 at 8:49 AM

Dorvillian on October 1, 2008 at 8:46 AM

Amen to that, but I am unfamiliar with what exactly a community organizer does. What should I do?

red131 on October 1, 2008 at 8:49 AM

Awesome idea but wait until Palin feels like she’s getting loaded questions or being squeezed on time.
Don’t warn Ifill – hit her hard on it out of nowhere if needed.

jjshaka on October 1, 2008 at 8:49 AM

No offense to Ed.

This attitude is the problem. It’s time to stop asking for fairness. Time to stop complaining about the rampant bias.

It’s time for action. It’s fun to live in our own little bubble pretending that the media is a dinosaur that is losing relevance by the second.

The fact is the media has been attempting to destroy the McCain campaign. A quick look at the trends in the polls tells you they are succeeding.

Just a couple of days ago I woke up to the fact that our chances of losing this election are much better than our chances of winning. Partially this is due to McCain’s erratic behavior, & Palin’s penchant for walking into gotcha interviews with little or no preparation.

But mainly it is due to the fact that the media has continued to spew disdain and partisanship in every area of media. To believe that this tactic is no longer effective or that the public is more nuanced to media bias is a mistake.

Obama is not a Clinton era democrat. His leadership and a fawning media will be devastating to freedom and prosperity in this country.

Let’s Become Conservative Community Organizers.

Dorvillian on October 1, 2008 at 8:46 AM

Well said . . . count me in.

rplat on October 1, 2008 at 8:50 AM

Tuning Spork on October 1, 2008 at 8:44 AM

No sweat. I think you commented about hope above, once a bill is passed. But I don’t see how McCain can hold hands with Obama, and then effectively turn around and tie Frank, Dodd, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Acorn, and the like to Obama. It won’t seem credible, and it will come too late. He needed to be working on the 15% to 20% of middle-ground voters two weeks ago. He’s blown this thing.

BuckeyeSam on October 1, 2008 at 8:50 AM

The corruption of our moral fabric begins with the mainstream media. It has led th o the most corrupt Congress in our nation’s history. When there is no accountability, there can be no truth.

volsense on October 1, 2008 at 8:51 AM

sent this to the e-mail addy….

I’d like to take the time to thank you for your choice Gwen Ifill as debate moderator for the Palin/Biden debate. It is not as though in having literary aspirations directly tied to the success or failure of one of the candidates she is incapable of impartiality is it? Perhaps for the 2012 debate you can select Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, or Glenn Beck as I am certain they are JUST AS CAPABLE of impartiality.

It *might* be a good idea to have her engage in disclosure at the start of the debate or prepare for a blogstorm on the matter. The last thing this race needs is another case of “gotcha”. “Scranton” Joe Biden never seems to get the same glare for his gaffes that Mrs. Palin does.

regards,
Sven J. Olafson

sven10077 on October 1, 2008 at 8:52 AM

No, it’s time to start asking questions back. The people understand bias, but it’s time to put it to the forefront of discussion, not the backburner.

michaelo on October 1, 2008 at 8:52 AM

This whole media bias thing is nauseating. I’m sure all of you remember how beloved Clinton was in the 90’s, and none of his “activities” were ever held against him in the MSM- and now he’s their favorite punching bag. There’s nothing they hold back, it’s like his opinion is irrelevant because he no longer fits into their agenda.

The bias and manipulation of the American public is beyond criminal: Please, please, write these stations and papers- express your unhappiness. It will take a massive effort to make conservative voices heard, but it can be done. Also- let the sponsers, (advertisers) know your feelings about buying products that support this bias.

anniekc on October 1, 2008 at 8:54 AM

Does anyone know how to lodge a complaint to the Commission of Presidential Debates? I know it won’t go far, but something needs to said at least. Comments here are always good but we are preaching to the choir.

SRL23 on October 1, 2008 at 8:54 AM

From NRO:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2M5MTU2NDY1NzQ3ZDNjOTc1MThjNGM5ZTQzYWI5NzI=

Blame the Republicans on the commission. Maybe they don’t know how to use Google.

BuckeyeSam on October 1, 2008 at 8:55 AM

Let Ifill moderate the debate. Then Palin bashes her and ties it to the incredible bias of the media, from the Iraq war on.

indythinker on October 1, 2008 at 8:57 AM

SRL23 on October 1, 2008 at 8:54 AM

yes, jb@debates.org

red131 on October 1, 2008 at 8:58 AM

Well, this does explain why Ifill’s been touted by many Beltway pundits as the next host for “Meet the Press” (She is an ex-NBCer and apparently would fit in fine with the political slant of the network’s cable channel).

jon1979 on October 1, 2008 at 8:58 AM

Let’s Become Conservative Community Organizers.

Dorvillian on October 1, 2008 at 8:46 AM

Sorry, we cannot oblige. Conservatives work for a living. Now if we were all on welfare or some other entitlement program, then we could picket all day long.

csdeven on October 1, 2008 at 8:59 AM

Does it trouble anyone else how all too willing is the McCain Campaign to allow the Press, the biased, 100% pro-Obama media, time after time, to get close enough to him and his running mate to do terrible damage?

It is a terrible blind spot for this candidate, and suggests that if McCain is lucky enough to be elected, he will spend the next 4 years doing what his predecessor has done–bowing and scraping before a hostile press that will drive his ratings straight into the ground and render him yet another lame duck.

james23 on October 1, 2008 at 8:59 AM

Blame the Republicans on the commission. Maybe they don’t know how to use Google.

No, let’s not. Typical b.s. from NRO. It is the duty of the holder of the conflict of interest to disclose it — not for someone else to discover it. That Katherine Lopez tries to pass of this crap as commentary shows how ethically challenges she is, too.

Blake on October 1, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Really the question is, why would we expect anything different?

Its like working with a car salesman, you don’t trust them for anything and be suspicious of everything. This is the perfect opportunity for the Dems, they know that a lot hinges on the perception of Palin and this debate has been set down as the second milestone (the first being her speech at the RNC). They can’t take any chances with her, because if she is even remotely successful, it will garner more votes for the McCain ticket. The left has to show her as a stupid, inexperienced and incompetent right-wing fundamentalist that’s out of touch with mainstream Americans.

Expect the worst, and this is just the beginning.

Geministorm on October 1, 2008 at 9:02 AM

Can someone please explain what is going on with NRO?

red131 on October 1, 2008 at 9:03 AM

“The Age of Obama”? WTF does that mean?

Bishop on October 1, 2008 at 9:04 AM

Forgive me, I haven’t read all the comments–this is so explosive there are well over a hundred as I write and Ed just posted it, for Pete’s sakes–but has anybody made the point that as a PBS employee, Ifill works on our dime?

radjah shelduck on October 1, 2008 at 9:05 AM

anniekc on October 1, 2008 at 8:54 AM

Many attempts at this have been made over the past decade or so; little or no effect produced. We must BOYCOTT the firms that finance this corruption and illegal behavior. Bankrupt them!

General Electric
The Disney Corp
Viacom
Westinghouse
Time-Warner
The Washington Post Co.
Anything coming from Hollywood!

These are good for starters…

Keemo on October 1, 2008 at 9:06 AM

I know, she has the book coming out, but what would be helpful is to pluck quotes from various sources that help slam any notion of objectivity.

moxie_neanderthal on October 1, 2008 at 9:06 AM

Well, that’s a good point, james23; Although I’d still take a lame McCain than an Obama presidency, with a Dem congress. Too much power for a socialist party!

anniekc on October 1, 2008 at 9:06 AM

You can add me to the list of people who cannot understand how McCain (and his advisers) can continue to let these things happen. I am officially depressed now.

dmarie on October 1, 2008 at 9:08 AM

I hope everybody will take a moment this morning and register their concerns. Here is the contact information from MM:

Ask the Commission on Presidential Debates if she will acknowledge her conflict of interest: 202-872-1020.

And here’s the e-mail address of Janet H. Brown, Executive Director of the Debates Commission: jb@debates.org

TheBigOldDog on October 1, 2008 at 9:08 AM

Ifill should resign. When asked if there was a conflict of interest, Sam Donaldson side stepped the question and said it was too late to get another moderator and in his opinion she was fair.

Claiming it is too late to get a substitute is ridiculous. This doesn’t require a degree in rocket scientistry. He just showed his own bias. McCain should not have to ask her to resign. Ifill should be embarrassed and resign on her own accord.

Blake on October 1, 2008 at 9:08 AM

I woke at 5:30am this morning, and the net was already posting the Gwen Ifil book story…at 6am, it was Fox News lead story…so I waited…and in the first half hour of the Today show NOT ONE MENTION OF GWEN IFIL…NOTHING!!! I teach Intro to Mass Media at a NJ college, and from now on my students will clearly understand how incredibly biased the media is, especially NBC (and where did David Gregory’s wife recently work??)

Unbelievable

chief65 on October 1, 2008 at 9:09 AM

Glen Beck is talking about it now!

canopfor on October 1, 2008 at 9:09 AM

Coulter would moderate fairly, but only because she can’t stand McCain either.

fossten on October 1, 2008 at 8:45 AM

I doubt Coulter would make a good moderator due to her inability to remain quite. Although I enjoy her rants.

whiskeytango on October 1, 2008 at 9:11 AM

Look out!!

Meagan Kelly has her teeth in this one.

CanadianGuy on October 1, 2008 at 9:11 AM

It is a terrible blind spot for this candidate, and suggests that if McCain is lucky enough to be elected, he will spend the next 4 years doing what his predecessor has done–bowing and scraping before a hostile press that will drive his ratings straight into the ground and render him yet another lame duck.

james23 on October 1, 2008 at 8:59 AM

Have we all forgotten who CHOSE McCain as the Republican candidate–the MSM. Remember? And why do you suppose McCain was chosen by them? Could it be because he would be the least likely of all to “fight back,” because he would be the one to “fight fair”?

labwriter on October 1, 2008 at 9:12 AM

McCain’s campaign has stated they were not aware of the book. I agree that they haven’t seemed to be on top of things lately….why are they not asking Karl Rove and Rush Limbaugh for help?? They so need it.

You get to a point where you start questioning if he, (McCain) is up to the task- Can he get ugly enough to shut down his across the aisle friends?

anniekc on October 1, 2008 at 9:13 AM

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thePajamaPundit on October 1, 2008 at 8:30 AM

Hey thePajamaPundit, check out my blog.

Just click my name to see my blog.

(P.S. You need to add more links to your blog in your comments. Two links just isn’t enough.)

wise_man on October 1, 2008 at 9:14 AM

I know, she has the book coming out, but what would be helpful is to pluck quotes from various sources that help slam any notion of objectivity.
moxie_neanderthal on October 1, 2008 at 9:06 AM

It’s not necessary. The fact that she would earn more money if Obama wins, is a conflict of interest. The fact that she did not disclose it makes it worse.

Those of you going on and on about McCain’s lack of judgment because of this, knock it off. COI are common occurrences and are dealt with. The only one who should have egg on her face is Ifill.

Blake on October 1, 2008 at 9:14 AM

Have we all forgotten who CHOSE McCain as the Republican candidate–the MSM. Remember?
labwriter on October 1, 2008 at 9:12 AM

Wow. And here I thought that it was republican voters who choose McCain in the republican primaries.

Good f*king Lord, why are so many of my people so F*KING stupid????

wise_man on October 1, 2008 at 9:15 AM

We need to keep finding ways around the media. It is also past time to combat the media. I think Republicans need to be challenging to them more. They are working for the Democrats and that needs to be exposed at every single opportunity. In other words,, answer the questions directly to the people as though you were being asked the question by your Democrat opponent. Link the media directly with the Democrats as you answer the question. The people will hear this. that is what is important. The Republicans need to reinforce in the peoples minds at every opportunity the illegitimacy of the media, while respecting the voice of the people.
President don’t sit with leaders of terrorists states without preconditions because it legitimizes their insanity.
When conservatives continue to sit with the media without responding to them as they really are, an arm of the Democrat party, they continue to legitimize the media the same way Presidents would terrorists.

If a journalist tries to be fair,, fine,, but when they act like propaganda tools for the other side,, that needs to be confronted every time. It is not whining, and i do not mean conservatives should whine and complain,, just respond more forcefully to the media as well as to the issue, the media are as much the issue here as the Marxists are,, , it is setting the record straight, dealing with reality and speaking pass the media directly to the people. Conservatives have got to step up and be responsible for speaking directly to the people.
That is another reason why no conservative should sit on The View. It is a worthless show and legitimizes The View as newsworthy.
If the media wants it both ways. They want to be represented as impartial while being in bed and actively supporting the Democrats. We allow it way too much.

JellyToast on October 1, 2008 at 9:15 AM

Ifill is one of the if not the most fair moderator I have seen. She wasn’t biased in 2004’s debate. She America’s leading African American Anchor and the “Jackie Robinson” of Presidential Candidates is running for President, of course she has to write that book. There are plenty of other people to go after, Ifill has not shown bias yet, and should be given the benefit of the doubt when one takes into account her history of professionalism. I figure most of the commenters causing a stir have never seen her. I also figure that the real reason everyone is making a big deal is because there is serious fear as to Palin’s ability to communicate. I mean geez, “What do you think about Waziristan?” has been charged as “gotcha journalism”. This fake chivalry in order to protect gross incomptetence is getting ridiculous, trying to make Gwen Ifill out to be some foaming at the mouth partisan is just crazy. Apparently lipstick is the difference between pitbulls and hockey moms and inability to articulate policy is the similarity between the two.

LevStrauss on October 1, 2008 at 9:16 AM

Need to make a stink out of this and hopefully force this woman to be more moderate at Debate.

She did debate in 2004, which Cheney won big over Edwards, and went after Cheney hard, but unsuccesfully. She is sure to go after Palin and not let her talk about Energy Independence and her record. Instead she’ll ask about the Lib. b.s. that has come out in the press the last month. banning books, etc.

jp on October 1, 2008 at 9:16 AM

I bet when McCain is sworn in, Ifill’s Obama book won’t sell worth beans.

It does sound a little much that someone who have the audacity to publish a book about the The One for inauguration day — And then that same someone who have a hand in running the election at a critical point.

Why is everything rigged, always come with a catch?

tarpon on October 1, 2008 at 9:17 AM

So how does Ifill feel about Palin’s convention speech?

But she’s probably always looks like she swallowed vinegar when she talks about political types

During the Democratic National Convention, Ifill offered her neutral analysis on NBC News before Michelle Obama’s speech: “A lot of people have never seen anything that looks like a Michelle Obama before. She’s educated, she’s beautiful, she’s tall, she tells you what she thinks and they hope that she can tell a story about Barack Obama and about herself.”

moxie_neanderthal on October 1, 2008 at 9:17 AM

Blake on October 1, 2008 at 9:14 AM

First it was the woman photographer who tricked McCain into extra poses that she then manipulated and put up on her website to mock McCain, and now this biased ‘moderator’ who will profit from an Obama win,

And these are just to two most notable offenses in a sea of bias, deception and corruption from the media.

wise_man on October 1, 2008 at 9:17 AM

Wow. And here I thought that it was republican voters who choose McCain in the republican primaries.

Good f*king Lord, why are so many of my people so F*KING stupid????

wise_man on October 1, 2008 at 9:15 AM

If your final line is a sumation of the people who voted for McCain I completely agree…as did the vast majority of Hotair when the primaries were going on, but for some reason I don’t think that is who you were referring to.

LevStrauss on October 1, 2008 at 9:18 AM

Can someone please explain what is going on with NRO?

I think they’re still waiting for the second coming of Reagan. That, and many of them really wanted Mitt.

I’m no McCain fan, but I put the yard sign up because Obama is the worst candidate in history.

Of course McCain keeps reminding me why he was about 6th or 7th on my list last year. I’m not sure I’m ready for 4 years of the same – the same “reaching out across the aisle” BS, the same incompetence in getting the message out, the total failure to work the media.

The MSM and the Dems can see the weakness in Bush and McCain and exploit it to the fullest. They refuse to fight back, they are incapable of stating their message strongly enough.

If McCain doesn’t show that he is in this to win, that yard sign is coming out though.

After watching George HW Bush, Dole and now McCain run some terrible campaigns, I’ve had enough. The Republican party better find a conservative leader soon, or it is done.

reaganaut on October 1, 2008 at 9:19 AM

Ifill has not shown bias yet, and should be given the benefit of the doubt when one takes into account her history of professionalism.

You did see the YouTube video of her at the Republican convention? She looked angry as hell after Palin’s speech.

CanadianGuy on October 1, 2008 at 9:21 AM

LevStrauss on October 1, 2008 at 9:16 AM

It is demonstrably true that Gwen is a partisan in this political fight and has a financial interest in the outcome of the election. This alone should be enough to have her recuse herself from moderating the debate.

moxie_neanderthal on October 1, 2008 at 9:21 AM

Uh-Oh, The nutjobs have arrived. Time to go.

anniekc on October 1, 2008 at 9:21 AM

LevStrauss on October 1, 2008 at 9:18 AM

No, LevStrauss, the idiots here are the ones who actually think that the media picked McCain and the republican voters obeyed their orders to vote for McCain. I give the republican primary voters more credit to be able to pick the best candidate than you.

wise_man on October 1, 2008 at 9:21 AM

Those of you going on and on about McCain’s lack of judgment because of this, knock it off. COI are common occurrences and are dealt with. The only one who should have egg on her face is Ifill.

Blake on October 1, 2008 at 9:14 AM

Agreed. I don’t know about other fields, but in the law, the person with the conflict of interest has the affirmative obligation to put others on notice.

Right now, I’d keep Ifill. She is such damaged goods, she’ll be uh-ing like Obama.

If they replaced her, it might be with another lefty who would “appear” impartial. Lehrer would probably stick to the “Gwen is fair” shtick since she’s a colleague and say no.

Wethal on October 1, 2008 at 9:21 AM

This could be good for our side. Very good.

People might be starting to get mad. Very mad.

And mad people act. They take out their anger the best way they know how.

Like, say…voting for straight GOP tickets as a way to stick it to the media elites?

Maverick has five more weeks and two more debates to use this as ammo. And, we needed something to fire up our people. This, plus American Carol’s debut this weekend, might do it.

Plus, Palin must know what’s happening. And Ifil surely is on notice. Sarah should be able to deal with this.

IMO, the McCain camp shouldn’t not claim that it didn’t know.

More to the point, it should come out quickly and say that it DID know, but didn’t feel it could do anything about it, because (a) if they complained the media would pillory them and (b) just where CAN you find a major media person who doesn’t have a conflict of interest that favors the Democratic side?

Otherwise, Bob Beckel and other Dem shills will float the meme that (a) the McCain campaign knew all along and (b) is now trying to whine and cover its tracks…or (c) that they’re incompetent…memes which (d) the unbiased MSM will quickly pick up and run with.

And THAT will become the story. McCain will go on defense, spending precious time dealing with questions as to why he let Ifil slip through unnoticed.

Recommend that the McCain camp come out with a statement to the effect of “Yes, we know she’s biased. But, we’re defacto not permitted to use conservative-leaning moderators in these debates. So…well, what can you do? You grit your teeth and move on. Don’t worry—Sarah will do just fine.”

smagar on October 1, 2008 at 9:23 AM

reaganaut on October 1, 2008 at 9:19 AM
Thank you and I agree. I also sent McCain campaign an email telling them not to ask for any more money until I see some kick back. Stand up and fight for this country, fight for us or get out of the way.

red131 on October 1, 2008 at 9:24 AM

I just sent my email. This whole thing is ridiculous. I mean, have ethics completely died or what?

Anna on October 1, 2008 at 9:24 AM

I like Laura Ingraham’s idea; allow Ifill to moderate tomorrow and night and let Rush moderate the next presidential debate.
I loathe liberals.

carbon_footprint on October 1, 2008 at 9:24 AM

tomorrow and night

carbon_footprint on October 1, 2008 at 9:25 AM

I figure most of the commenters causing a stir have never seen her.

I’ve been watching her for over 20 years.

I also figure that the real reason everyone is making a big deal is because there is serious fear as to Palin’s ability to communicate.

No, the real reason is that she has an undisclosed conflict of interest, i.e., she has a financial interest in Obama winning. Grow up. Claiming it doesn’t exist is childish.

Blake on October 1, 2008 at 9:25 AM

This is a copy of the e-mail I sent to the Commission of Presidential Debates;
Good morning,
The First Presidential Debate was well worth watching. I am glad I stayed home to watch. I understand it was not highly rated though. For the upcoming VP Debate I have friends coming over to watch with me. However, I do have a question, why are you using a moderator that has a financial interest in the outcome of this election. If moderators are unbiased why have a moderator who stands to make millions on her new book if Senator Obama wins. Wouldn’t this be the equivalent of Rush Limbaugh being the moderator?
Jim Lehrer would probably do as well as he did last week, and you would avoid all of the spotlights. Just a thought.
Thanks,
Have a good day.

Guest1.1 on October 1, 2008 at 9:25 AM

It can’t be that bad. I don’t think she’ll be allowed to prop up a copy of her book on the table. Any book signing will have to occur after the dabate.

moxie_neanderthal on October 1, 2008 at 9:25 AM

well, Drudge has this as lead. now next step is Talk Radio and Fox News. maybe it’ll bust through to MSM at some level.

Palin might should make a dig in debate, with a smile on her face about the matter.

jp on October 1, 2008 at 9:27 AM

Here’s what Governor Palin should say:

Thank you, Ladies and Gentlemen, it’s my pleasure to be here with you tonight, and Gwen I’d like to congratulate you in advance for your upcoming book on Barack Obama. I trust that you will be fair in your questioning, no matter how that affects your book sales. Good Evening, Senator Biden….

originalpechanga on October 1, 2008 at 9:28 AM

How is it Repubs. continue to sign on to these debates with every single debate have Liberal Moderators??? Its insane.

Brit Hume should be a moderator, heck if Stephanopolis can be a moderator then why can’t Karl Rove???

the Libs get away with murder

jp on October 1, 2008 at 9:28 AM

then on top of that, the Democrats get away with refusing to debate on Fox News. Which helps cement the idea that the MSM is fair and Fox News is a hack job agency. Pure Liberal Fascism bullying, and many americans will buy it.

jp on October 1, 2008 at 9:30 AM

Wethal on October 1, 2008 at 9:21 AM

She should resign on her own. It’s not like she will be criticized or called on the carpet for this by her own profession and I want her to have some consequences for being an unethical jerk, because that is what she is — an unethical jerk.

Blake on October 1, 2008 at 9:30 AM

In the next debates, McCain could ask the moderator, if the moderator says comething biased, “Oh, do you have a book coming out Obama, too?”

Every time McCain or Palin are interviewed, “By the way, do you have a book coming out on Obama, too?”

McCain’s campaign complaining about media bias wasn’t getting much traction until now. Ifill may have handed McCain a great talking point.

Ifill as moderator is a lemon. Make lemonade.

Wethal on October 1, 2008 at 9:30 AM

She should resign on her own. It’s not like she will be criticized or called on the carpet for this by her own profession and I want her to have some consequences for being an unethical jerk, because that is what she is — an unethical jerk.

Blake on October 1, 2008 at 9:30 AM

Agreed that she should. But I doubt she will. That would presume journalistic ethics that she apaprently does not have.

Wethal on October 1, 2008 at 9:31 AM

then on top of that, the Democrats get away with refusing to debate on Fox News. Which helps cement the idea that the MSM is fair and Fox News is a hack job agency. Pure Liberal Fascism bullying, and many americans will buy it.

jp on October 1, 2008 at 9:30 AM

Good point. How on earth do the donks get to call all the shots, i.e, the network, liberal democrat moderators, etc.? And the democrat campaign had to know of the conflict of interest, and they went along with it.

p.s.: Hume would make an excellent moderator.

Blake on October 1, 2008 at 9:33 AM

well, Drudge has this as lead. now next step is Talk Radio and Fox News. maybe it’ll bust through to MSM at some level.

Palin might should make a dig in debate, with a smile on her face about the matter.

jp on October 1, 2008 at 9:27 AM

Check out the front page of FoxNews’ website. This is the main story.

carbon_footprint on October 1, 2008 at 9:33 AM

Hey all, thanks for reposting from Michelle’s site the email address for Janet Brown. I’ve already emailed her.

thePajamaPundit on October 1, 2008 at 8:30 AM

I read one of your posts at a lefty blog yesterday. I almost came back and pointed it out here. Go Astroturf somewhere else, Douchebag! No one wants or listens to your incoherent nonsense around here. We know what you are, troll!

JAM on October 1, 2008 at 9:35 AM

Can someone please explain what is going on with NRO?

red131 on October 1, 2008 at 9:03 AM

Well, one problem is that, with the exception of perhaps Mark Steyn and Victor Davis Hanson, Sarah Palin is an enigma to them. She is not their “type” and this has them in a state of consternation and confusion. They think she’s pretty, but they probably wouldn’t want to date her.

A second problem is that about 80% of the people who write there never leave the New York/DC corridor except to go on vacation. Their view is insular.

BigD on October 1, 2008 at 9:36 AM

I’ve tried and tried the tel # that Michelle gave us for the debate organization. Try and try it’s busy, busy, busy. I assume they’ve taken the phone off the hook. I will send an email to jb@debates.org.
Hope we make it. It’s the biggest joke!

Bambi on October 1, 2008 at 9:37 AM

Agreed that she should. But I doubt she will. That would presume journalistic ethics that she apaprently does not have.
Wethal on October 1, 2008 at 9:31 AM

I don’t know if you remember, but George Will (What me?), worked with Reagan to prepare for a debate and then after the debate appeared on television to act as a critic without disclosing the conflict of interest. He was reamed out for it since it was unethical. And in that case, Will, unlike, Ifill, didn’t have a financial conflict of interest.

Blake on October 1, 2008 at 9:38 AM

During the Democratic National Convention, Ifill offered her neutral analysis on NBC News before Michelle Obama’s speech: “A lot of people have never seen anything that looks like a Michelle Obama before. She’s educated, she’s beautiful, she’s tall, she tells you what she thinks and they hope that she can tell a story about Barack Obama and about herself.”

moxie_neanderthal on October 1, 2008 at 9:17 AM

Wow.

Does she think there are pockets of people out here in the hinterlands that never watch TV, read magazines, or get out of the house? What an incredible display of disconnect from reality.

I suppose in her liberal elite circle of acquaintances, this might actually be their perception of the world in which most of us live.

Perhaps Ms. Ifill should try to get out more.

hillbillyjim on October 1, 2008 at 9:39 AM

Email the debates commission at: jb@debates.org

Post a message for Ms. Ifill at: pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/feedback.html

Email your local PBS station. Local managers respond quickly to local customer complaints.

Here’s mine:

Ms. Brown,

I find it incomprehensible that you would allow Gwen Ifill to moderate the Vice Presidential debate tomorrow evening. Personal bias is one thing, and one could argue that Ms. Ifill is capable of being professional enough to overcome her obvious and deep bias toward the Obama campaign.

Personal financial interest in one of the campaigns is a very different thing. With the announcement of her pro-Obama book publication, Ms. Ifill stands to earn a huge paycheck if Sen. Obama is elected. This clearly disqualifies her as a moderator. Gov. Palin will not only be debating Sen. Biden; she will also be debating Ms. Ifill’s bias and personal financial interests.

If this were a moderator who had just announced a pro-McCain book to be published on inauguration day, he/she would be out of the debate by noon today. Please extend the same reasoning to Ms. Ifill, and replace her.

MochaLite on October 1, 2008 at 9:40 AM

During a vice-presidential candidate debate she moderated in 2004 – when Democrat John Edwards attacked Republican Dick Cheney’s former employer, Halliburton – the vice president said, “I can respond, Gwen, but it’s going to take more than 30 seconds.”

“Well, that’s all you’ve got,” she told Cheney.

Ifill told the Associated Press Democrats were delighted with her answer, because they “thought I was being snippy to Cheney.” She explained that wasn’t her intent.

But she also was cited in complaints PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler said he received after Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin delivered her nomination acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn., earlier this month.

Some viewers complained of a “dismissive” look by Ifill during her report on Palin’s speech. According to Getler, some also said she wore a look of “disgust” while reporting on the Republican candidate.

moxie_neanderthal on October 1, 2008 at 9:42 AM

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