Palin on the debate: “I’m the new energy, the new face, the new ideas”; Update: George Will tells audience Palin’s not qualified? Update: Hewitt transcript added
posted at 6:34 pm on September 30, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Change versus experience, with the parties reversed for one night only. Any attempt to humiliate her apparently now qualifies as “news” so here’s the Chicago Tribune throwing a few column inches at that nude portrait of her you’ve already doubtless heard about. Maybe it’s because nearly every story I read about her these days feels obliged to mention Kathleen Parker’s “Sarah must go” piece for NRO or maybe I’ve just seen one too many posts from Sullivan attacking her with gleeful derangement, but I’ve got a silly hunch that her detractors want to see a lot more on Thursday than a Biden victory. They want an implosion. Anything less and that itch of theirs just isn’t going to be scratched.
She’s already started making the talk-radio rounds I mentioned yesterday, phoning in to chat with Hugh Hewitt in the first hour today. The transcript’s not available yet but he’s replaying the segment, so tune in if you can’t wait. Geraghty jotted down some of the particulars. Sounds like she did well.
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Update: It’s HuffPo so take it for what it’s worth, but this would jibe with Will’s general line on Palin thus far:
Famed conservative columnist George Will told a gathering of Senate aides on Monday that Gov. Sarah Palin is “obviously” not prepared to assume the presidency if necessary, two event attendees told the Huffington Post…
Palin is “obviously not qualified to be President,” he remarked, describing her interview on CBS Evening News with Katie Couric as a “disaster.”
Will did state, according to a second source, that Palin has received rough treatment from the media; arguing that the Alaska Governor would have been “skewered” by the press if she had made some of the same gaffes as Sen. Joe Biden has in recent weeks.
Update: Here’s the Hewitt transcript.
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George Will is an intellectual elitist, fool and is completely full of himself
rplat on September 30, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Remember that Paris Hilton show? The one where they lived on a farm or something? The family said they were going to WalMart and Hilton asked “whats that? where you buy walls?”
darwin on September 30, 2008 at 7:35 PM
barney the Dinosaur
upinak on September 30, 2008 at 7:35 PM
So you’re saying that no governor is ready to be president? That makes no sense. She is as ready as any other governor, and she is the governor of the largest state in the nation.
Gabe on September 30, 2008 at 7:37 PM
You have a point here. Not that I care that much whether the Washington elites like her. And what Palin is speaks louder than what she says. But I am looking forward to her being able to articulate authoritatively the conservatism that she clearly lives.
If she can effectively and confidently communicate the conservative philosophy and at the same time demonstrate it the way she already does, with her whole life, then she will truly be a political force for a generation. And gotcha interviews will be harmless because even if she does not know the particulars of an issue, she will be able to shine with her clear presentation of conservative principles which cannot be defeated in the arena of ideas.
neuquenguy on September 30, 2008 at 7:38 PM
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 7:19 PM
If we cough really hard maybe we can clear you out.
Cindy Munford on September 30, 2008 at 7:38 PM
All Palin has to do is prove she can be presidential. People want to like her.
tomas on September 30, 2008 at 7:43 PM
Here’s my view on Sarah Palin and the debate. If she performs well, fine. If she performs miserably. Not fine but it doesn’t alter my thinking.
She has core beliefs and values that fit my value system. She seems reasonably intelligent. That said, I really don’t care if her only experience was a 2nd grade school teacher and baking cookies. She has the intelligence to listen to advisors that will acquaint her with any situation that comes along. These will be advisors giving her information about the situation on which she must decide (deciding… experience she does have). Senator Obama or Biden would be governing in a similar fashion (with ZERO decision making experience). If you believe otherwise, you are a fool. Given that, I believe she would make a decision that better fits my beliefs and values than one made by Senator Obama-Ayers-Wright or Biden-Split-Iraq. When she starts to screw up her beliefs or starts to make be believe she doesn’t really believe what her life clearly demonstrates, I may reconsider. Until then, these gotcha interviews, ridiculous press coverage and every day scrutiny of her buying a sandwich don’t matter at all.
CC
CapedConservative on September 30, 2008 at 7:45 PM
I realize that Hugh is more than friendly to this ticket but he really is a good interviewer.
Cindy Munford on September 30, 2008 at 7:45 PM
George Will is qualified for what? This old fossil wouldn’t know a … wait I better get another drink before …
tarpon on September 30, 2008 at 7:46 PM
The irony with this election is we finally get a bonafide “outsider” in Palin, but true to form (there’s one born every minute), it looks like most voters are all too eager to sign up for the miracle cure from a snake oil salesman. I guess most would rather have a smooth talker who says he’s an “outsider,” than usher in the real deal.
Pathetic.
dugan on September 30, 2008 at 7:46 PM
George Will was making the case for conservative principles within the Republican Party back when it was run by Nixon. Will was one of the conservative writers Rush studied in the 80’s as his radio show took shape.
dedalus on September 30, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Cindy Munford on September 30, 2008 at 7:45 PM
+1, Quite so.
Spirit of 1776 on September 30, 2008 at 7:46 PM
I can’t stop applauding!
Onager on September 30, 2008 at 7:48 PM
And Benedict Arnold was a great Revolutionary general and patriot… right up until he changed.
CC
CapedConservative on September 30, 2008 at 7:48 PM
George Will should SHUT THE F*CK UP
Sir Andrew on September 30, 2008 at 7:48 PM
has he ever said that about obama?
nope.
he’s a tool.
reliapundit on September 30, 2008 at 7:52 PM
You could take the ads McCain is doing about “The One”, replace Obama with Palin and have the same effect.
BTW I resisted mightily to go in the gutter with your last reply.. have a cigar!
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 7:52 PM
No, I’m not saying that no governor can be president.
Reagan, for example, was prepared because he travelled extensively and wrote widely on a wide range of issues.
I don’t think she’s an idiot or evil or incompetent. She just doesn’t have enough “seasoning” (for want of a better word) to be President in an emergency.
SteveMG on September 30, 2008 at 7:54 PM
If Sarah wins the debate. The MSM will say that she remembered all that they told her to. They will NEVER give her credit
Mercy4Me on September 30, 2008 at 7:56 PM
…the Gatekeeper of Conservatism has evidently looked down his long nose and found the Divine Sarah wanting.
I think that this falls into the bin marked “Who Gives A Sh*t?”…right next to the other diatribes, rants, non-stories, defamatory screeds, gassy hoo-hah’s about “experience”, gassy hoo-hah’s about her supposed intellectual deficiencies, gassy hoo-hah’s about her lack of slickness in front of the camera, and low expectations in general.
Would someone please publish a list of “The Elect” who are qualified enough, slick enough, etc., to be President, Vice President, a Senator, etc.? Evidently such a list exists, or a list of qualifications aside from those enumerated in the Constitution exists, which makes it impossible for anyone outside some self-appointed and self-elect Golden Circle from applying for the job.
By current media standards, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, their sainted Kennedy, Carter and Clinton wouldn’t've qualified, having only been short term governors, or short term governors from states insignificant to the established press, or merely single-term congressmen from Illinois.
Odds bodkins! We might elect the wrong fuehrer!
Puritan1648 on September 30, 2008 at 7:56 PM
You’re making my point exactly. He is a pre-talk radio MSM “conservative” that the MSM loved to have on talk shows and to write for newspapers–the kind of “conservative” they wanted to present to the public.
Why? Because he is a phony elitist and dorky-looking, like the way the MSM wants the average American to picture Republicans. The reason the MSM hates Rush, Laura Ingraham, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, etc. is because they influence people to turn to conservatism, and they are cool and intelligent. Therefore, in the pre-talk radio era, people like them would never be allowed on the news.
George Will is a dork and an elitist. That is why he is so popular on networks and newspapers.
His trashing of Palin is calculated to make himself more popular with the MSM elite. He is the “good” Republican to them.
Gabe on September 30, 2008 at 7:57 PM
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 7:52 PM
Congratulations. The only people that ever fainted around Palin or McCain were seasoned citizens in the heat of a Florida afternoon. If you think this site is a monolith of McCain/Palin supporters you are deluded. Conservatives at most revere Ronald Reagan, we do not worship any human.
Cindy Munford on September 30, 2008 at 7:58 PM
If the criteria for treason was criticism of McCain, there would be a lot of Benedict Arnolds.
dedalus on September 30, 2008 at 7:58 PM
And if she flops spectacularly no amount of objectivity will deter the Palin faithful. “She was set up” “they put a higher watt light on her to distract her” “Biden should have had to wear a dress like her”…. blah blah blah
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Guys, help me out here. Who is Kathie Couric?
carbon_footprint on September 30, 2008 at 7:59 PM
dedalus on September 30, 2008 at 7:46 PM
I am sure Rush values Mr. Will but he is a devotee of the late great William F. Buckley.
Cindy Munford on September 30, 2008 at 8:00 PM
Well, then, kudos to him for his history. It’s long past time for him to retire and start writing more baseball books now though.
ShoreMark on September 30, 2008 at 8:01 PM
carbon_footprint on September 30, 2008 at 7:59 PM
I got nothing!
Cindy Munford on September 30, 2008 at 8:02 PM
Ok…the HH interview wasn’t as good as it could have been but George Will is going too far. I wonder if he thinks Barry is qualified to be POTUS, as that’s the office he’s running for.
Sarah is running for VP and if he knew that John’s mom was 90-something, why would it be a problem? I don’t agree with a lot of McCain’s positions, (he’s no conservative), but he’s a tough dude. I find it a bit sticky that a conservative like George Will is not embracing another conservative because she isn’t like the career politicians that should be flushed down the beltway sewer and pronto. Perhaps he’s an elitist and maybe a bit of a mis—no, it can’t be. ;-D
Christine on September 30, 2008 at 8:02 PM
She needs to make that the story.
Oink on September 30, 2008 at 8:02 PM
No, you miss the point. For those of us who care about debates and interviews, she has a previous history of excelling. So if she does poorly, many will rightly think that it’s natural when on the national stage as a rookie.
For those of us who don’t care about the debates, she connects with the base in both a visceral and intellectual way. So the debate won’t affect the affection.
Spirit of 1776 on September 30, 2008 at 8:04 PM
If your point was that Rush came to build his philosophical viewpoint by reading George Will in the late 70’s and early 80’s, then there would be some agreement.
Unlike Coulter or Hannity Will doesn’t alienate swing voters when he presents conservative positions.
dedalus on September 30, 2008 at 8:04 PM
Who ever said the tri-delt cheerleader from Virginia had so much damn “gravitas” anyway? Why does her opinion count for jack anyway? Couric should be on “the View” not the news.
clnurnberg on September 30, 2008 at 8:05 PM
…you’re welcome to your opinion, as asinine as it is. How much “seasoning” has Obama got? As I quipped earlier (on another thread on HA), Obama’s got all the “seasoning” (earlier, I said “gravitas”) of a popcorn fart.
Following are the only legal qualifications for the office:
…so, you now want to add “seasoning” to the list. Get up a petition, get an amendment movement going:
…there you go! Problem and solution. Next!
Puritan1648 on September 30, 2008 at 8:05 PM
dedalus & Shoremark finished the thought that I almost wrote.
It’s nearly impossible to teach an old dog new tricks. Will is a has-been.
Christine on September 30, 2008 at 8:06 PM
Thursday preview:
Moderator: Gov. Palin, aren’t you worried that you lack the same length of experience that your opponent, Sen. Biden, has?
Palin: Actually, I have more executive experience – you know, where you have to actually make real-time decisions that affect the whole enterprise – than Sen. Biden OR Sen. Obama.
Moderator: Are you referring to your stint as a small town major and your brief time as governor of sparsely-populated Alaska?
Palin: No, I was referring to my time as point guard on the Wasilla High School state championship basketball team.
fred5678 on September 30, 2008 at 8:07 PM
Again, not great with Couric, but I thought she did fine with Hugh. And, George Will isn’t helping things.
CP on September 30, 2008 at 8:08 PM
eh, could be. I don’t dislike Palin — just don’t care for those who cannot be remotely objective — smells like Fred spirit.
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 8:08 PM
I worry about people who have imaginary conversations and then post them for the world to see.
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 8:09 PM
…why not? The press, chief among Obama’s “faithful”, have been overlooking Rezko, Wright, Ayers, now Mark Rudd, “black liberation theology”, ACORN, his torturous twists when he has to make an actual decision, his vague promises with no evident means of delivering them, and his choice of one of this nation’s ultimate insiders as a running mate…for, what, 18 months now?
By “overlooked”, I mean that they paid it lip service, if they addressed it at all, their subsequent silence forgiving him more loudly than their tepid reports might’ve damned him.
As to his non-media followers, I wouldn’t be surprised if they wouldn’t self-imolate if he willed it. He’s Thulsa Doom…without the cool threads and the even cooler voice.
Puritan1648 on September 30, 2008 at 8:11 PM
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 8:08 PM
I wasn’t a Fredhead, but excepting the ‘fire in the belly’ thing, where were they wrong? Ie, they liked the guy for who he was and defended him against people who criticized him (like me). What’s the difference between that and objectivity?
Spirit of 1776 on September 30, 2008 at 8:11 PM
Huh? My reply was in response to your comment about Rush referring to Will in the 80s… Simply that Will has changed… for the worse.
From an ideology standpoint, let’s rank them from MOST conservative to LEAST.
Palin, McCain, Biden, Obama
Who has values that agree with me most? Palin.
Who is the best person to be President? McCain
Who will lose 50 of 50 based on being extremely liberal? Obama
If he has a really good day, he may win Illinois and DC.
CC
CapedConservative on September 30, 2008 at 8:12 PM
I think that it is better to put the least experienced person at the bottom of your ticket, rather than the top.
Personally, Obama has more national policy experience, but Palin has more executive experience. Palin is been a very successful governor (popularity in Alaska around 80+%).
Executive experience can be gained primarily by doing it – being an executive. Policy experience can be gained by studying and by assembling a good advisor team (Palin would inherit McCain’s advisors). While I don’t think that Palin is ready today, I think that she will be ready by the time she needs to be. By these measures Palin is more qualified and experienced than Obama.
Here is an interesting blurb I read:
An Actuarial Perspective
If you’re concerned about Sarah Palin’s lack of experience, Politico’s Alexander Burns has some numbers that ought to put your mind at ease:
For a man who has lived 72 years and 67 days (McCain’s age on Election Day this year), there is between a 14.2 and 15.1 percent chance of dying before Inauguration Day 2013, according to the Social Security Administration’s 2004 actuarial tables and the authoritative 2001 mortality statistics assembled by the National Association of Insurance Commissioners.
Going by the Social Security Administration’s tables, that’s nearly ten times the likelihood that a man aged 47 years and 92 days (Barack Obama’s age on Election Day this year) will die before Jan. 20, 2013.
Let’s take the average of the two figures and say that McCain has a 14.65% likelihood of dying before Inauguration Day 2013, while Obama’s likelihood is 1.465%.
For the sake of argument, assume further that Joe Biden and John McCain are equally qualified to be president, and Sarah Palin is as unqualified as Barack Obama.
That means that if McCain is elected, there is better than an 85% chance that America will have a qualified president at the end of the term. If Obama is elected, the likelihood of having an unqualified president at term’s end is higher than 98.5%.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122054121296699899.html
If McCain wins his pick of Palin will be considered a master stroke which energized his base. If he looses it won’t matter.
ksm on September 30, 2008 at 8:12 PM
Personally, I am glad Mr. Will is on the conservative side. I have always admired him, even when I disagree with him, which I do in this case. We don’t all need to march lock-step in perfect agreement. This same kind of sentiment was directed at Peggy Noonan on this board not so long ago. It is a sensitive issue with me because even though I left the Democratic party decades ago, I still find some of their core principles worthwhile. By core principles, I mean the real Democratic party, not the bastardization we see today. I made the mistake of politely disagreeing with someone on Free Republic once, a site I often visited and posted on. It was not even a major issue, but I was banned. I will never leave the Republican party. Neither will George Will and neither will Peggy Noonan. But there will be times when we may disagree and feel the need to say so. It would be a tragedy if we were not allowed to do so.
Glynn on September 30, 2008 at 8:12 PM
You slay me Puritan!
Hey, the POTUS isn’t much more than a figurehead, right?
Well, when it comes to the possibility of ushering in communism under Barry Whosane NObama I have a big problem with that creepy twit being our figurehead. Not that i wouldn’t have to fight McCain tooth and nail over amnesty; I just don’t think i could survive an Obama regime.
Christine on September 30, 2008 at 8:12 PM
If she does a 180 in the debate and suddenly claims that she hates Jesus, guns, and babies, my vote could be affected. But since that seems unlikely, I’m pretty sure George Will (whom I enjoy reading)isn’t going to dissuade me from trying to keep keep a Marxist out of the oval office.
pugwriter on September 30, 2008 at 8:12 PM
+1
funky chicken on September 30, 2008 at 8:13 PM
Every 100 years the Chicago Cubs win the World Series and George Will is wrong. This is that year.
flyoverland on September 30, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Her lack of qualifications is a red hearing. The left, the MSM and the conservative elites have adopted it as their mantra because it is the only criticism they can use without betraying their hypocrisy and their twisted ideologies.
neuquenguy on September 30, 2008 at 8:15 PM
I’m so glad you worry about me. Really, I am. Stay up late worrying. Lose a lot of sleep over it. Really, worry a lot. It’ll improve your disposition.
I DON’T spend time worrying about clowns with no sense of humor.
fred5678 on September 30, 2008 at 8:16 PM
…and now Mr. Limbaugh likes Gov. Palin. Point?
The ’80’s were, at the most recent, 19 years and about 7 presidential elections ago…a lot of ink under the bridge.
…when we know more, would someone please post whether Mr. Will offers any alternative. It’s easy to judge…it’s less easy to plan.
Puritan1648 on September 30, 2008 at 8:16 PM
An example would be how when the “fire in the belly” observations were raised some would go through some elaborate mental exercises to explain how it was all a calculated strategy to set a trap.
In Palin’s case the lack of objectivity is simply not being able to acknowledge that she has a lot to learn. for example “what if Palin fails spectacularly?” gets answered by Puritan1648 on September 30, 2008 at 8:11 PM without one word about Palin.
Not sure if that gets my thought across very well or not but it’s the shortest explanation I can offer.
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 8:18 PM
I don’t disagree with you a bit Glynn, but I still feel there is a time when it’s best to glide off quietly into the night. I believe both Peggy and George have reached that point — most likely due to so many decades of playing the MSM game.
ShoreMark on September 30, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Correction, I meant to say Red Herring
neuquenguy on September 30, 2008 at 8:19 PM
When Couric asked which newspapers and magazines she reads, Palin certainly didn’t help her case by not being able to name a single one.
JA on September 30, 2008 at 8:19 PM
George Will is such a condescending jerk. He and Peggy Noonan are the snobby kind of republicans that get on my nerves.
jencab on September 30, 2008 at 8:20 PM
Since I am older than both of them, that might be a sore point with me as well. But you may have a point about the MSM game. It certainly is not the same journalistic world they started out in.
Glynn on September 30, 2008 at 8:21 PM
Really? So her stock would have risen had she said maybe… “New York Times and Mad Magazine.. I find them so similar.”? Maybe she actually tries to obtain something resembling the truth.
CC
CapedConservative on September 30, 2008 at 8:23 PM
*Gasp!* She doesn’t read the newspaper!
And this is a bad thing?
pugwriter on September 30, 2008 at 8:23 PM
I disagree. George Will uses big words, like Buckley. I like big words. They make me think. If you have ever read any of Peggy Noonan’s books, she is anything but a snob. But that’s my perception.
Glynn on September 30, 2008 at 8:23 PM
…difference between Ms. Couric and Mrs. Palin, using today’s facts as they stand:
Ms. Couric’s got a job. Gov. Palin has a mandate.
Whatever happens on November 4, this will still be true on Novemeber 5.
Ms. Couric needs to read and absorb this.
Puritan1648 on September 30, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Well, it’s obvious that conservatives like liberals devour their own.
When Mac announced his choice of Palin many of our “conservative” brethren trounced on her. Of course, they are elites from Powerline, NRO, and City Journal to mention only a few. Even though Gov. Palin was being torn apart by the libs and MSM, it didn’t matter to our elites. They had to pile on.
One would think that they would have the sense to say nothing rather than feeling compelled to be nasty. Kathleen Parker is a good example.
The bottom line is that elites are elites, and they hate everything that Palin represents which is a large part of America.
If they want to hand the election to Barry, I guess that’s what they will do. Can’t even give the woman a chance.
/elites suck
Cody1991 on September 30, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 8:18 PM
I follow.
Spirit of 1776 on September 30, 2008 at 8:24 PM
She should have said that she doesn’t read crap.
neuquenguy on September 30, 2008 at 8:25 PM
Phew Glynn, yes my main point was on how long they’ve been playing the games the MSM plays and how same can have an adverse effect on their viewpoints, not on their chronological age! I hope this explanation allows me to dodge the evil eye!!!
ShoreMark on September 30, 2008 at 8:25 PM
DON’T EVER USE George Will And Mr. Buckley’s name in the same sentence! Ever! Not even in the same paragraph. Not even in the same story. Now, go wash your hands.
CC
CapedConservative on September 30, 2008 at 8:25 PM
She just texted me – she doesn’t have an account here and asked me to tell you “noted and he may want to try bounty the quicker picker upper”.
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 8:25 PM
The argument the Dems are . . . using the “McCain is old” meme to scare people about a young, inexperienced President. If she’s questioned about that, Sarah Palin needs to say that if THEY are elected, McCain will surround himself with people he trusts, who will still be there if she succeeds McCain. Also, mention that McCain’s mother is still alive!!!
She can also make the argument that Obama has less executive experience than she does, and he would make mistakes from “day one”, rather than possibly after McCain’s funeral.
Steve Z on September 30, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Steve Z, Great point about McCain’s mom. Not only is she alive, she’s like 94 and not slowing down at all. McCain’s clearly a young man in that family.
EconomicNeocon on September 30, 2008 at 8:26 PM
Mr Wills you and all the other has been jerks who set around and hold court and pass judgement on these sunday talk shows.don,t have any idear how the real american people think or feel about anything.So get back in you hole untill next sunday.Then you can come out kiss little steffie ass and tell all of us unwashed how smart you are!!!
thmcbb on September 30, 2008 at 8:27 PM
George Will and William Buckley. George Will and William Buckley.George Will and William Buckley.George Will and William Buckley.George Will and William Buckley.George Will and William Buckley.
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 8:27 PM
Buckley was the wellspring for conservative political thought today. His writing helped to shape Rush and he hired Will as an editor at National Review in the early 70’s.
dedalus on September 30, 2008 at 8:28 PM
CapedConservative,
How much troll feed you have left?
neuquenguy on September 30, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Ooooo.. I’m so hurt. Mr. Buckley could smile and cut a person to absolute shreds with his skill, logic and conservative principles in a manner that they didn’t even know they were bleeding for days… just before they died.
I see you attended the writing school of “the other guy”.
CC
CapedConservative on September 30, 2008 at 8:30 PM
I really love Kathleen Parker, but her most recent column was anything for complimentary about Sarah Palin.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=
Glynn on September 30, 2008 at 8:31 PM
George will is an elitist ass who probably believes the house and senate are full of more qualified candidates than Sarah Palin.
I disrespectfully disagree that those fools, buffoons, liars and outright crooks are more qualified than a citizen Governor. The few that POSSIBLY MAY BE AS QUALIFIED simply have not been in the good old boy, you scratch my back I’ll scartch yours, esteemed senator this, honorable gentleman that, cesspool long enough to be totally corrupted by it.
The Senators and Congressmen are the problem, not by any stretch of the imagination the solution. This should be painfull evident to any who are even half awake after the nefarious activities this past week has exposed.
Sarah and 565 more like her are exactly what this great country needs to save it from the elitist political/ newsdustrial complex.
They are stealing us blind and some still sing their praises. Well I for one say THROW THE BUMS OUT!
Pitchfork and torch time! Time to take this country back or work to hand over all the money we work for to the elistist few who govern as kings and in the case of Blarney Frank QUEENS.
dhunter on September 30, 2008 at 8:31 PM
They are easier to catch than yellowtail snapper in Key West… doesn’t take nearly as much chum and the snapper are smarter and fight better.
CC
CapedConservative on September 30, 2008 at 8:31 PM
No problem. I have learned tolerance on these posting boards. I am not so sure their viewpoints have changed. I think they may have just gotten sick of the underreporting being done on our side. I think their conservative values are strongly intact.
Glynn on September 30, 2008 at 8:33 PM
Sorry for the typo, I meant to say Kathleen Parker’s article was anything butcomplimentary about Palin.
Glynn on September 30, 2008 at 8:34 PM
…no, you didn’t get your though — or this qoute — across very well, but I will deign to answer the implied question.
*ADJUSTS THE FOLDS ON HIS ROBES, TILTS HIS MAGUS HAT TO LOOK MENACING, HARRUMPHS*
…harrumph….
What happens if she walks off the stage with her butt in both hands? You will find yourself quite correct (amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing!), and the spin-meisters on both sides will be back trying to whip their peasants into taking torches and ladders to storm Dr. Frankenstein’s castle. Excuses will abound, lies will fly, and image consultants on both sides will make great wads of cash into the bargain.
How will it effect the “Palin faithful”? They’ll be disappointed. How will it effect their votes? Probably not at all.
How will it effect the “Obama faithful”? They’ll get even more snarky, beat their chests, consider the election in the bag, and the nation will once again need Obama or Biden to put a foot wrong…as in on the salty-sensing area of the tongue.
Will she crash and burn? If she answers the questions, not looking for the “school solution”, she may come off much as Mr. McCain came off…not slick, not stylish, but looking as if he was actually trying to think about an actual answer, not simply regurgitate some sound bite.
Will she crash and burn? She’s an actual person, not a cardboard cutout…it’d be nice to have an actual person near the seat of power…but, if she does, we’ll still have 32-33 days to chew on it.
Will she crash and burn? She just might.
The sad thing is that there’re people out there — and around here — who’re hoping that she does.
Remember: this is only an election for the Republicans. This is a March to Power for the Democrats. Anyone who stands in the way must be destroyed.
People who hope for the destruction of others are in the Devil’s pocket.
Puritan1648 on September 30, 2008 at 8:36 PM
No thank you.
Glynn on September 30, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Sorry to horn in but a lot of us think her lack of “experience” is a good thing. If she was stupid, I might agree with your misgivings but she isn’t. Look at what is going on financially right know. Do you realize how many really experienced legislators, lawyers, MBAs, and government officials got us to where we are now? A bunch! The Founders never expected there to be “professional” politicians. The wanted everyday people to serve their country and hopefully pass laws that would benefit the vast majority of said people. That no longer happens, all of these people making huge decisions for us are totally isolated from us and are clueless as to our lives. Again, forgive the interruption.
Cindy Munford on September 30, 2008 at 8:37 PM
Point is that some of the principles behind conservative thought such as limited government, respect for life, and belief in free markets go back beyond the 80’s or several presidential elections.
dedalus on September 30, 2008 at 8:37 PM
Exactly!
Glynn on September 30, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Fixed that for you.
techno_barbarian on September 30, 2008 at 8:39 PM
George Will said something intelligence once.
I’ll try to remember what it was.
profitsbeard on September 30, 2008 at 8:41 PM
…confused….
You took something clever and made it silly.
You took something at the end of a clever argument and reduced it…to…oh…something you’d understand…and think was funny….
…nevermind….
…by the way…check the proper nouns…it’s “Ms. Couric” who needs to absorb…not me…the only greasy spill or inconvenient oozing spot that I need to attend to is…well…you….
*WIPE* *SQUIT*
…all better…cleans like a white tornado….
Puritan1648 on September 30, 2008 at 8:41 PM
I agree with your point about McCain being most qualified. Hope you are right with your prediction that Obama will lose.
dedalus on September 30, 2008 at 8:42 PM
Glynn on September 30, 2008 at 8:31 PM
Glynn, exactly! What’s the point in trashing Gov. Palin? The liberals are doing a fine job of it.
If one is not keen on Palin, perhaps it would be best not to comment or to do so in a constructive manner.
Parker lives not too far from me. I found that article to be somewhat surprising. Normally people around here tend to reserve comment if they disapprove rather than going for the jugular.
The criticism simply seems excessive to me at this point.
Cody1991 on September 30, 2008 at 8:44 PM
Absolutely incredible! Vote for Sara – “she’s not that experienced – it’s a good thing” (maybe have Martha Stewart do the voice over)
– great slogan
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Okay you took one sentence out of a long explanation. You now qualify as a total horse’s patoot and not worthy of my time.
Cindy Munford on September 30, 2008 at 8:51 PM
…true…they date back to 1787…to 1776, if you can trust Jefferson…
…been a lot of water under the proverbial bridge in a couple of hundred years…for instance, both Teddy R. and his rampant cult of personality and “progressive” ramping up the federal slop-trough and his cousin’s even more ambitious efforts in that regard…still, pristine theory is still pristine theory….
…so, I’m led back to my previous question: what does Mr. Will propose as an alternative.
I mean simply this: he certainly doesn’t like Mr. McCain, and now doesn’t like Mrs. Palin. The Republican ticket is a done deal. He obviously didn’t influence squat, either with the party or the voters. That doesn’t make him wrong, but it sort of makes him irrelevant.
So, what, in the face of a settled ticket on its way to an actual election…and in the face of an Obama/Biden candidacy, of which I’m sure he would really disapprove, does he suggest as an alternative? What advice does he offer?
“Turn back, it’s a trap!”?
“You should’ve listened to me sooner!”?
Right now, out here in the real world where the grass is green and the sky is blue, what advice does he offer? Opinions, as we all know, are like the terminal end of the alimentary canal. They’re widely distributed. Furthermore, he gets top dollar for his…opinion, that is…not his…well, you know….
…although, were he to visit Rep. Frank in off hours….
*BLOGGER SLAPS HIMSELF FOR CHEAP BUGGERY HUMOR*
…it’s alimentary, my dear dedalus….
*BLOGGER NOW VERY CROSS WITH HIMSELF, SLAPPING HIMSELF A SECOND TIME, REALLY HARD*
…political theory is like one of Murphy’s key Laws of Combat Operations: no political theory survives the initial contact. Realpolitik: we’ve got a ticket, George. Don’t like it, vote for the Constitution Party.
…I’m simply saying that if there’s more to this than we’re told from the HuffPo, and Will’s out there putting the mouth on Sarah…well…it’s not going to help him any more than it will us…so, what’s the point?
Puritan1648 on September 30, 2008 at 8:54 PM
Cindy,
The founders didn’t live in a time when someone would have the ability to destroy the planet with nuclear weapons.
“But hey she deserves a chance” because …. well she isn’t a liberal.
Bradky on September 30, 2008 at 8:54 PM
A total sh!thole. Stay and fight. Join the Second Continental Congress.
ManlyRash on September 30, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Of course you are right. But this whole discussion bothers me. When the left started raising the experience issue I thought it was stupid not only because she has similar or more experience than most VP candidates but because it highlights Obambi’s lack of experience. However the Dems and the MSM have been able to frame the whole discussion about Palin around this red herring, and conservatives have fallen for it. We spend enough a lot time defending her on this instead of discussing her qualities and achievements, which are very compelling. This has made it very easy for the left to discredit her, they have been able to zero in on this perceived shortcoming and ignore all the characteristics that excited the American public when she first came into the national scene.
neuquenguy on September 30, 2008 at 8:57 PM
What exactly is it that makes George Will qualified to tell us if Palin is qualified?
Maxx on September 30, 2008 at 8:57 PM
As an Obama supporter I for one won’t argue that Palin is too inexperienced because she’s only been governor for two years. I think experience is overrated. One only needs to look at our current president to see how overrated it is when it comes to presidential success. What I will argue is that her lack of thinking about foreign affairs disqualifies her.
Gov. Palin has no paper trail when it comes to her views. I challenge anyone to find one position paper in regards to her view on foreign policy. If she had spent a number years publishing her conservative viewpoints and giving speeches about her philosophy of governance I for one wouldn’t mind that she had very limited experience. But she doesn’t and that why some of conservaties and not just liberals think that picking her was a mistake.
Ric on September 30, 2008 at 8:58 PM
…hmmmm…”butcomplimentary”?
I can be butcomplimentary…Gov. Palin has a nice butt. There.
Not a service qualification, and won’t help in the debates, as she’ll be facing the cameras….
…but you and I will know that it’s back there…smiling at us….
…mind you, Mr. Biden has a butt, as well…and it will take all my strength of will to keep it from invading my thoughts…then again, he wears his above his shirt collar, so it’s a lot harder to ignore….
Puritan1648 on September 30, 2008 at 8:59 PM
He can suck his own intellectual dick.
ManlyRash on September 30, 2008 at 9:00 PM
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