Mild surprise: Heritage backs bailout package

posted at 1:25 pm on September 29, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

I call this a mild surprise only because no other realistic options exist at this point.  The US government poisoned the financial markets with the equivalent of junk bonds, and somehow the US government will have to find a way to provide an antidote.  Heritage Foundation fellows Stuart Butler and Edwin Meese, the former Reagan administration Attorney General, reluctantly agree:

Financial markets in the United States and around the world face a dire emergency requiring urgent and decisive action. Some key parts of the credit market are on the verge of gridlock, resulting not just in the collapse of major financial institutions but also in credit disruption that is severely weakening the long-term prospects of non-financial companies. And while this is currently most visible in Wall Street and in the financial sector, it is only a matter of time before the fallout hits Main Street, with potentially devastating economic effects for typical American households.

Swift action is needed to deal with the “toxic” mortgage-backed securities that are causing credit markets to seize up. The package of emergency steps now before Congress is intended to address that problem and restore America’s credit markets while protecting the taxpayer as much as possible from the cost of dealing with the crisis. …

Thus serious constitutional concerns remain and should be addressed in putting together a statute to deal with this current and hopefully temporary credit emergency. The constitutional questionability of some provisions is worrying, as is the centralization of power. Nonetheless, the situation is so grave that we must take unusual measures now and accept some negotiated arrangements that remain very troubling, provided they are limited in extent and time and are not accepted as a permanent part of our government.

The entire webmemo doesn’t take long to read and make its argument.   Meese and Butler clearly don’t like the bailout bill, although they do like the improvements made over the weekend.  It will require more work as the government attempts to extract the poison from the system, but they need to act now to forestall a greater collapse.

I believed that Heritage would more or less oppose the bill.  Will this help convince free-market conservatives?

Update: Club for Growth opposes:

The Club for Growth urges all members of Congress to reject the latest “compromise” bailout bill.

Although conservatives in the House convinced Congress to strip many of the worst elements of the previous “compromise” bailout bill, the legislation remains fundamentally flawed.  The bill increases the federal debt by billions of dollars, rewards bad decisions made by failing banks, and establishes a dangerous precedent for government bailouts down the road.  This bill should be defeated, and it is clear from the precipitous drop in the Dow this morning that the markets are equally unimpressed with this legislation.

Instead of passing this bill, Congress should do two things immediately to help our credit markets.  First, Congress should immediately suspend mark-to-market rules for banks.  Second, Congress should lift the cap on the FDIC’s guarantee on transaction accounts at banks.  Last week, the government instituted an unlimited guarantee on money market funds, creating an incentive to withdraw deposits from banks.  The last thing the government should be doing is encouraging a run on banks.  The best way to fix this under current circumstances is to lift the FDIC’s cap.

“For years, Congress played a central role in creating and encouraging the current crisis,” said Club for Growth President Pat Toomey.  “With this bill, Congress further undermines our free-market system.  If Congress really wants to stabilize the markets and restore financial confidence, it should suspend mark-to-market rules and lift the cap on the FDIC’s guarantee on transaction accounts.  No member of Congress should leave town without getting this done.”

The Club for Growth will be key-voting the vote on the bailout bill, urging all members to vote “No.”  Key votes are included in our Congressional Scorecard for the 110th Congress.  The scorecard provides a comprehensive rating of how well or how poorly each member of Congress supports pro-growth, free-market policies.

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Oh, the politicans are so wonderfull, so smart, so meaning, to concerned, so thoughtful and so fuged up. Darn I just really dislike these people, who are they really?

foxone on September 29, 2008 at 1:28 PM

pass it now; THEN move to the reasons why certain morons [hint -- they ALL have a letter in the early portion of the alphabet after their name] worked so hard and for so long to defend the framework of this messed up system in the first place — hell, Ed already has a 1/2 dozen videos poted on the subject to make the rnc’s life easier …

Buckaroo on September 29, 2008 at 1:29 PM

A better way to fix economic problems is to allow entrepreneurs the freedom to allocate resources in accordance with society’s priorities.

There are a trillion dollars sitting on the sidelines waiting for a place to invest in.

These dollars could be used by enticements, to allow the common person to invest in these companies vis a vi a preferred stock mutual fund, similar to how Warren Buffet invested in Goldman Sachs.

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 1:29 PM

And while this is currently most visible in Wall Street and in the financial sector, it is only a matter of time before the fallout hits Main Street

Odd… why does that meme/phraseology keep popping up?

You’d almost suspect some centralized PR campaign…

Skywise on September 29, 2008 at 1:29 PM

They have grown-ups over there, who also understand the psychological aspects of this, for world markets. I don’t think it’s a surprise that Heritage is onboard. No young American knows what a truly collapsing economy looks like, and God willing they won’t have to.

RBMN on September 29, 2008 at 1:30 PM

A necessary evil.

jgapinoy on September 29, 2008 at 1:31 PM

Thank heavens for the Club For Growth! But I’m quite afraid it’s too little, too late. The fact that both the GOP and Democrats are reading from the same playbook indicates that the game is fixed.

The political class wants our money to fix their mistakes under the assumption that they can better manage investments than the common folk. And what an amazing track record they have in that realm. Why, just look at how profitable Social Security is!

Screw this bailout and any pundit or politician who supports it.

HebrewToYou on September 29, 2008 at 1:32 PM

Is anyone else having trouble getting through to Congress. I’ve been trying the official address and it just won’t go.

http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml

Bishop on September 29, 2008 at 1:34 PM

I may be totally off here, but I’m tired.

This so-called disaster is founded on an unbridled hunger for debt, and to fix this problem, we’re turning to more debt to solve it. The Bible says that basically the one in debt is a slave to the lender. The lender is a person, or persons, in each and every case.

To whom are we, as the USA, going to be enslaved?

AubieJon on September 29, 2008 at 1:36 PM

I’ve been watching CSPAN and they are scared to death. Boehner (sp) was very passionate. He hates this thing, as does almost everybody else.

I’m tellin’ ya, this is a planned and forced crisis to push this country socialist. Rush is laying things out right now. Listen if you can.

They’re voting on the bill right now and there was an uproar when they tried to pass it quickly. Opposition demanded a recorded vote.

Whole lot of NV votes. More dems for it, so far, than GOP. The dems keep hammering on the need for this to be bi-partisan, even though they’re foreshadowing things by blatantly repeatedly blaming the GOP for this fiasco.

This. Sucks.

techno_barbarian on September 29, 2008 at 1:37 PM

The folks who left for vacation when there was no energy bill. The folks who told us sorry you are paying over 4.00 a gallon for gas there is nothing we can do about it. These people want 700 Billion Dollars to bail out Wallstreet. For a social engineering program of their making. They tell us they can’t put a fence up on our southern border. But they will sell houses to people, who can’t afford them, and the villains making the profit, get to keep the money? What am I missing?

Dr Evil on September 29, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Is anyone else having trouble getting through to Congress. I’ve been trying the official address and it just won’t go.

http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml

Bishop on September 29, 2008 at 1:34 PM

Slashdotted?

null on September 29, 2008 at 1:37 PM

To whom are we, as the USA, going to be enslaved?

AubieJon on September 29, 2008 at 1:36 PM

The alinski-ites and China.

techno_barbarian on September 29, 2008 at 1:37 PM

Rush is on right now.

http://www.wabcradio.com/article.asp?id=531472

Dr Evil on September 29, 2008 at 1:39 PM

I believed that Heritage would more or less oppose the bill. Will this help convince free-market conservatives?

Convince us of what? The choice is death by slow poison or death by firing squad. If the bailout doesn’t happen, markets will tank. If the bailout happens, markets will tank. The former is on a timeline with time increments of days, the latter of months, maybe years. In the end, this will get used to nationalize the banking industry. Obama will use this bailout money as a sword of Damocles over Wall Street to enact sweeping socialist policy. McCain will use this as a sword of Damocles over immigration hawks to open the flood gates to “potential home owners.” Both will use it as a means to consolidate control over evil Wall Street.

spmat on September 29, 2008 at 1:40 PM

I’m sorry, but the opinions of career Beltway people, especially people who are so old that they will never be around to experience the long-term consequences of these things, are not to be given any special weight.

BigD on September 29, 2008 at 1:40 PM

http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.html

try that

upinak on September 29, 2008 at 1:40 PM

Bishop… if you saw on your link there was a shtml.. which means secure. If you take the s off… it works fine.

upinak on September 29, 2008 at 1:41 PM

If my finger was a real gun I would have blown my head off 28 times in the past few days.

darwin on September 29, 2008 at 1:42 PM

Vote: 173 nays and 180 yea…. nays are going up faster than yeas.

counting continues….

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 1:42 PM

At this point the market tanks if we don’t pass it.

Problem is that it will tank because we told them it was needed. Its now a self fulfilling prophecy. We scared everyone so bad by saying this was needed, that they froze up until its done…

But now? Reality will set in, and I predict the markets will tank anyway. As far as I know, China is still not loaning money to American banks… and while the FED has finally opened up more short term loans (87 day paper), it won’t hit until OCTOBER 6! (this could have been done WEEKS ago, when we first saw this problem on the horizon, they CHOSE not to).

Romeo13 on September 29, 2008 at 1:43 PM

“McCain will use this as a sword of Damocles over immigration hawks to open the flood gates to “potential home owners.””

w
t
f?!

/project much?

Buckaroo on September 29, 2008 at 1:43 PM

The nays have it.

techno_barbarian on September 29, 2008 at 1:43 PM

nays 197… yeas 186

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 1:43 PM

nays 210 yeas 189

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 1:44 PM

Just because Heritage gives their blessing — whether they are holding their nose or not, does not make it anymore than what it is — a significant change in our government to over-influence our free market economy and lead us down the path to socialism. Two things:

1. Anyone who votes for this needs to be removed from office.

2. It is impossible to respect this country as some sort of beacon of free and fair markets any longer so we might as well join the EU.

We need to take our lumps, learn and move on. Instead, we’re going to extend the trough deeper onto Wall Street and reward failures. Disgusting!

grdred944 on September 29, 2008 at 1:44 PM

213-190

How many do we need to get this stopped?

jimmy the notable on September 29, 2008 at 1:45 PM

0:00 minutes remaining yeas 192 nays 216

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 1:45 PM

Never mind. We have 220 nays.

jimmy the notable on September 29, 2008 at 1:45 PM

Okay, CNN is saying people are allowed to switch their votes…they’re going to try to get people to switch, I guess.

jimmy the notable on September 29, 2008 at 1:46 PM

221 nays… time for some ridiculous arm twisting.

e-pirate on September 29, 2008 at 1:46 PM

oops… still counting votes nays 223 yeas 199

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Its failed, but Dems are keeping voting open past the timelimit…

Romeo13 on September 29, 2008 at 1:47 PM

Action needed now, fine tuning later.

“Will you still love me in the morning?”

“Oh yeah, Baby. Now let’s go up to my bedroom.”

davidk on September 29, 2008 at 1:47 PM

nays 226 yeas 203

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Wow, 94 Democrat Nays.

jimmy the notable on September 29, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Dem Rep. Dennis Kucinich opposes.

?

cntrlfrk on September 29, 2008 at 1:48 PM

65 republican yeas

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Wow, most ethical Congress EVAH…. voting still open…

Romeo13 on September 29, 2008 at 1:48 PM

Basically this bailout is cutting off two gangrenous legs in order to keep the patient alive.

And it’s probably too late for this election, but maybe the stench will stick around for the 2010 cycle and we can throw a hell of a lot of the bums out.

rbj on September 29, 2008 at 1:49 PM

Fox reporting that House Republicans thought Nancy Pelosi’s speech was too partisan, and they went “bezerk” when they heard it. As a result, they may be happy to hang her with it.

MayBee on September 29, 2008 at 1:49 PM

The Market is bailing. It just tanked real quick.

Editor on September 29, 2008 at 1:49 PM

nays 228 yeas 205

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 1:49 PM

Dow down 600…Gold up 20…T-bills falling to almost 0 yield…

TheBigOldDog on September 29, 2008 at 1:49 PM

Action needed now, fine tuning later.

That is very weak.

BigD on September 29, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Fox reporting that House Republicans thought Nancy Pelosi’s speech was too partisan, and they went “bezerk” when they heard it. As a result, they may be happy to hang her with it.

MayBee on September 29, 2008 at 1:49 PM

Right.. public lynching… about time

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 1:50 PM

May not pass the house? DJA down 519

Weight of Glory on September 29, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Well this should be interesting… and not in a good way either.

techno_barbarian on September 29, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Dow dropped 514 points and counting.

Exurban Jon on September 29, 2008 at 1:51 PM

NO GO!!!

JVelez on September 29, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Looks like the voting is “done” for now… 228 nays, and the DOW down 500 points.

Way to go, Congress, way to go.

e-pirate on September 29, 2008 at 1:51 PM

I want this to pass, but Pelosi needs to be shamed.

MayBee on September 29, 2008 at 1:51 PM

Dow down 600…Gold up 20…T-bills falling to almost 0 yield…

TheBigOldDog on September 29, 2008 at 1:49 PM

Dow is recovering, flying back up…at -458.

jimmy the notable on September 29, 2008 at 1:52 PM

Now DJA at 460

Weight of Glory on September 29, 2008 at 1:52 PM

what was the DJA right after 9-11?

Weight of Glory on September 29, 2008 at 1:52 PM

The bald guy on CNN is really doing a good job saying that the Dow dropping isn’t the worse thing ever. It just jumped like 40 dollars and then fell back down within like 30 seconds.

jimmy the notable on September 29, 2008 at 1:53 PM

40 points*

jimmy the notable on September 29, 2008 at 1:53 PM

ooops!!!! retraction from Sam Turncoat Brownback :)

nays 227 yeas 206

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 1:53 PM

What am I missing? Times up, isn’t it?

Weight of Glory on September 29, 2008 at 1:53 PM

ahhh damn, they only need 11 people to flip.

jimmy the notable on September 29, 2008 at 1:54 PM

now it’s “only” 400 off. gained back over 250

Weight of Glory on September 29, 2008 at 1:54 PM

Dow is down less than 400 now….

jimmy the notable on September 29, 2008 at 1:54 PM

Voting’s over. This failed. DOW at -366 and bouncing around trying to come up.

techno_barbarian on September 29, 2008 at 1:55 PM

Pelosi’s plea for votes was a partisan attack and the Republicans gave her the finger

TheBigOldDog on September 29, 2008 at 1:55 PM

They’re keeping it open so votes can still be flipped.

RBMN on September 29, 2008 at 1:55 PM

Bishop… if you saw on your link there was a shtml.. which means secure. If you take the s off… it works fine.
upinak on September 29, 2008 at 1:41 PM

I had no idea about that “s”, now it works fine.

You’re the best, thanks.

Bishop on September 29, 2008 at 1:56 PM

They’re keeping it open so votes can still be flipped.

RBMN on September 29, 2008 at 1:55 PM

They had better flip those votes right quick.

phronesis on September 29, 2008 at 1:56 PM

This vote probably just cost McCain the presidency and could very well lead to over 60 dems in the senate. The damage being done by the House is going to change this country forever. For those of you who opposed this bill, get ready for President Obama, at least 2 young leftist SCOTUS justices, totally socialized health care, leftist labor laws and huge tax increases. Hooray, you won! Doesn’t it feel great!

Patrick H on September 29, 2008 at 1:57 PM

They’re keeping it open so votes can still be flipped.
RBMN on September 29, 2008 at 1:55 PM

What, they plan on keeping it open for the next ten days?

The nays have it, Pelosi you goddam criminal.

WTF is going on here? Does the process no longer matter, will they simply subvert everything to get what they want? WTH?

Bishop on September 29, 2008 at 1:57 PM

I know…I know Sam Turncoat Brownback is in the Senate not the House, but… but he probably had a proxy voter in the House :)

Just kidding…

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 1:58 PM

Voting still open, is this not a violation of the House Rules?

Order is being called from the floor, but they won’t recognize it…

Romeo13 on September 29, 2008 at 1:59 PM

This vote probably just cost McCain the presidency and could very well lead to over 60 dems in the senate. The damage being done by the House is going to change this country forever. For those of you who opposed this bill, get ready for President Obama, at least 2 young leftist SCOTUS justices, totally socialized health care, leftist labor laws and huge tax increases. Hooray, you won! Doesn’t it feel great!

Patrick H on September 29, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Bull. When people learn that Obambi had a direct hand as a lawyer for ACORN they’re going to revolt against the communist dem party.

techno_barbarian on September 29, 2008 at 1:59 PM

The market sees that it’s very close, and that means that a few changes and a little arm-twisting will get it over the top. It’s close enough to pass with some tweaks on Wednesday. I’d say that’s why the Dow is coming back up a little.

RBMN on September 29, 2008 at 1:59 PM

“Patrick H on September 29, 2008 at 1:57 PM”

um, it’s the MINORITY’S fault a bill didn’t pass? wtf?!

Buckaroo on September 29, 2008 at 1:59 PM

How’d Obama and McCain vote?

Skywise on September 29, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Voting still open, is this not a violation of the House Rules?

Order is being called from the floor, but they won’t recognize it…

Romeo13 on September 29, 2008 at 1:59 PM

They’re democrats. You expect them to play by the rules? They are ‘above the law’.

Can’t wait for the whole mess of them to be swept away and ridiculed and dispised forever.

techno_barbarian on September 29, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Patrick H on September 29, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Go change your diaper and come back after high school.

AubieJon on September 29, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Now 30 minutes into a 15 minute vote…

still 226 against….

Romeo13 on September 29, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Duh… nevermind.. I’m an idiot.

Skywise on September 29, 2008 at 2:01 PM

This vote probably just cost McCain the presidency and could very well lead to over 60 dems in the senate

Patrick H on September 29, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Nope.

McCain will vote for the bi-partisan winning side.

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Pelosi’s plea for votes was a partisan attack and the Republicans gave her the finger

TheBigOldDog on September 29, 2008 at 1:55 PM

I saw her speech. Can’t rightly disagree with you on this.

Hopefully, in the back rooms, she’s either getting some lashings, or having to deal her foot out of her mouth.

yo on September 29, 2008 at 2:01 PM

How’d Obama and McCain vote?

Skywise on September 29, 2008 at 2:00 PM

This is the House, not the Senate.

Romeo13 on September 29, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Ok, there is your commercial: show Pelosi keeping the vote open past the time limit.

Why not just march in a few heavies to beat the hell out of recalcitrant congressman until they change their vote?

This reminds me of union votes I was involved on in the past, union reps floating around trying to slyly intimidate us.

Bishop on September 29, 2008 at 2:02 PM

That Yea vote is not budging. I’ll bet 11 arms are damn near broken right now.

techno_barbarian on September 29, 2008 at 2:02 PM

How’d Obama and McCain vote?

Skywise on September 29, 2008 at 2:00 PM

They vote on Wednesday if all goes well…..

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 2:02 PM

Great Depression 2.0, here we come. I wonder what our ideological purity will buy us?

phronesis on September 29, 2008 at 2:03 PM

Great Depression 2.0, here we come. I wonder what our ideological purity will buy us?

phronesis on September 29, 2008 at 2:03 PM

A very painful freedom, I hope. But at this point, all bets are off.

techno_barbarian on September 29, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Damn…now I need to go back to my bunker again.

I still have room for volunteers at my desert oil-rig outpost. If you are good with a crossbow, come on down.

Bishop on September 29, 2008 at 2:04 PM

This is the House, not the Senate.

Romeo13 on September 29, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Thanks, see my above retraction of my stupidity…

Just heard on ABC radio news – “Voting continues on the contentious bailout bill… the market is down Four Hundred and Fif…tee poinst (emphasis THEIRS)… it looks like the vote will fail despite urging from President Bush and the nation’s top economic leaders”

a> Nothing about holding the vote open
b> NOTHING ABOUT PELOSI OR REID OR THE DEMOCRATS…

Skywise on September 29, 2008 at 2:05 PM

hammer went down for order in the house….

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 2:05 PM

I wonder what our ideological purity will buy us?

phronesis on September 29, 2008 at 2:03 PM

A LOT more than it has ever been given credit for, or relied upon for.

Weight of Glory on September 29, 2008 at 2:05 PM

If failure to pass this would ensure an Osamabamabiden win, why is SanFranNasty holding open the voting against the rules of the House and calls of oder?

Some people are just dimwitted.

davidk on September 29, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Done deal. It fails.

Hold on to your butts.

techno_barbarian on September 29, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Done deal, it failed…

Romeo13 on September 29, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Oops meant Order–but odor is appropriate.

davidk on September 29, 2008 at 2:08 PM

yeas 205 nays 228..

the motion to reconsider votes is suspended…

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 2:08 PM

Holding the vote open. You effin’ slugs.

Come on RNC, make those commercials.

Bishop on September 29, 2008 at 2:08 PM

If failure to pass this would ensure an Osamabamabiden win, why is SanFranNasty holding open the voting against the rules of the House and calls of oder?

Some people are just dimwitted.

davidk on September 29, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Nope, she just showed that she is powerless as the Speaker.

Like 94 of her own party voted against it.

Romeo13 on September 29, 2008 at 2:09 PM

FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I smell Nancy Pelosi burning…..

Mcguyver on September 29, 2008 at 2:10 PM

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