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Did Jopek family ask Obama to stop wearing the bracelet?

posted at 11:00 am on September 28, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Barack Obama attempted a “me too” moment in Friday’s debate when John McCain mentioned the bracelet he received from the family of a soldier killed in Iraq and called it a reminder to win the war.  Obama fumbled through the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopeck while making the point that some families of those killed in action drew a different lesson from the loss, asking Obama to tell voters of their loss and their opposition to the war that caused it.  Apparently, they asked Obama something else, too, but he wasn’t listening.  Warner Todd Huston at Newsbusters explains:

Shockingly, however, Madison resident Brian Jopek, the father of Ryan Jopek, the young soldier who tragically lost his life to a roadside bomb in 2006, recently said on a Wisconsin Public Radio show that his family had asked Barack Obama to stop wearing the bracelet with his son’s name on it. Yet Obama continues to do so despite the wishes of the family. …

Brian Jopek: Because of some of the negative feedback she’s gotten on the Internet, you know Internet blogs, you know people accusing her of… or accusing Obama of trying to get votes doing it… and that sort of thing.

Radio Host Moberg: Yeah

Jopek: She has turned down any subsequent interviews with the media because she just didn’t want it to get turned into something that it wasn’t. She had told me in an email that she had asked, actually asked Mr. Obama to not wear the bracelet any more at any of his public appearances. Which I don’t think he’s…

Moberg: It has been a while since he’s brought it up.

Jopek: Right. But, the other night I was watching the news and he was on, uh, speaking somewhere and he was still wearing it on his right wrist. I could see it on his right wrist. So, that’s his own choice. I mean that’s something Barack Obama, that’s a choice that he continues to wear it despite Tracy asking him not to… Because she is a Barack Obama supporter and she didn’t want to do anything to sabotage his campaign, so, if he’s still wearing the bracelet then, uh, that of course is entirely up to him.

This interview was from March, according to Warner (you can hear it at this link).  It’s possible that they have changed their minds again, and not unlikely, given the family’s support for Obama.  Jopek is divorced from his wife and may not have been speaking for her.  If Tracy Jopek wanted Obama to continue to use the bracelet to make this case, or changed her mind about him stopping, then Obama did nothing wrong.

However, if the Jopeks did ask him to stop wearing the bracelet and stop talking about it on the campaign trail, it’s disrespectful for Obama to continue to do so.  He should have honored their wishes and used a different example.  Obama could have talked about Cindy Sheehan’s loss if he was desperate for one, but there are other Gold Star families who oppose the war and probably would support Obama’s use of their loss as a campaign talking point.

Since this interview was six months ago, we should wait for the Jopeks to say whether they object to the use of the bracelet by Obama.  Obama’s use of the bracelet was obviously planned, and I’d have a hard time believing that no one would have thought to check with the Jopeks first.


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Obama did nothing wrong.

Who needs friends when you got enemies like this?

TheBigOldDog on September 28, 2008 at 11:03 AM

Barry: she was not the bracelet giver I thought I knew…

sven10077 on September 28, 2008 at 11:04 AM

Hell, he had to actually look down and read the bracelet. He doesn’t care about the soldiers or what the bracelets represent. To him they are a stage prop. They are otherwise meaningless to him.

Guardian on September 28, 2008 at 11:05 AM

Since this interview was six months ago, we should wait for the Jopeks to say whether they object to the use of the bracelet by Obama. Obama’s use of the bracelet was obviously planned, and I’d have a hard time believing that no one would have thought to check with the Jopeks first.

Something tells me the family will receive a nice fat check before this story gets out of hand.

RightWinged on September 28, 2008 at 11:06 AM

You are right to red flag this one, Ed. Fact check first.

Angry Dumbo on September 28, 2008 at 11:09 AM

I still wonder what he did with his Karl Marx bracelet after he took it off and replaced it with Cpl Stanley’s bracelet.

This guy is a despicable dolt.

rplat on September 28, 2008 at 11:09 AM

Obama’s use of the bracelet was obviously planned, and I’d have a hard time believing that no one would have thought to check with the Jopeks first.

If it was planned, he ought to have known the name. As for whether The One would do something like that without asking… YES, HE WOULD!

Ed makes a point about waiting on confirmation, but he’s shilling for Obama to say he did nothing wrong. He was asked at one time to stop wearing it, and did not, apparently. The burden is on Hussein to prove he has the right to wear it.

Tommygun on September 28, 2008 at 11:12 AM

Wright: “Sgt. Jopek’s chickens…came home to roost!”
Ayers: “I wish there were more casualties like Sgt. Jopek.”
Pfleger: “Evil White people sent Sgt. Jopek to his death.”
Mrs. Obama: “I’m not proud of Sgt. Jopek.”

jgapinoy on September 28, 2008 at 11:13 AM

The whole way that Senator Obama raised the issue of the bracelet was offensive. By fumbling his delivery of that prepared attack he came off as petulant, insensitive, and conniving. If it is in fact true that the soldier’s family didn’t want his name used for campaign purposes, then it would be an even more offensive act. We probably will never learn the whole story because it would be awful to pester the family about it.

Jill1066 on September 28, 2008 at 11:13 AM

Since this interview was six months ago, we should wait for the Jopeks to say whether they object to the use of the bracelet by Obama. – Ed

The Jopeks will categorically deny the story is true and affirm their support for the Messiah. The Drive-By media will spin this into soundbites that vilify the McCain campaign for questioning the patriotism of the parents of a young man who died needlessly in an unjust war.

ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 11:13 AM

I wonder how Sgt. Ryan David Jopek feels about this.

As for his mother, here’s her words from the Washington Post:

She said she’s a Democrat who will vote for Obama in Wisconsin’s primary Tuesday. Like Obama, she said she was against the war from the start and had a hard time watching her son go to war.

“My son loved this country very much, I love this country, but I don’t feel that staying in Iraq will vindicate my son’s death,” she said. “And it’s not over for us until this war is over. I just don’t want any more soldiers to die in vain for something that we can’t solve.”

Mrs. Jopek said she’s a “political junkie” who was once watching a press conference on television and noticed likely GOP nominee John McCain wearing a similar bracelet. McCain’s was given to him in August by the mother of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, also killed in Iraq, and the Arizona senator’s been wearing it regularly ever since. He takes a different message from the memento.

“It means any political ambitions of mine pale in comparison to the sacrifice that nearly 4,000 family members have made,” McCain said of the bracelet in an interview with The Associated Press last fall. He said although political pundits said his determination not to end the fight in Iraq will kill his political career, “when you meet the mother of Matthew Stanley, then what difference does that make?”

I don’t agree with Mrs. Jopek, but it sounds like she gave the bracelet to Barack in good faith, and he has worn it in good faith.

unclesmrgol on September 28, 2008 at 11:14 AM

I’m just surprised that Sgt. Jopek actually exists.

ctmom on September 28, 2008 at 11:14 AM

Brian Jopek: Because of some of the negative feedback she’s gotten on the Internet, you know Internet blogs, you know people accusing her of… or accusing Obama of trying to get votes doing it… and that sort of thing.

Radio Host Moberg: Yeah

Jopek: She has turned down any subsequent interviews with the media because she just didn’t want it to get turned into something that it wasn’t. She had told me in an email that she had asked, actually asked Mr. Obama to not wear the bracelet any more at any of his public appearances. Which I don’t think he’s…

Moberg: It has been a while since he’s brought it up.

Jopek: Right. But, the other night I was watching the news and he was on, uh, speaking somewhere and he was still wearing it on his right wrist. I could see it on his right wrist. So, that’s his own choice. I mean that’s something Barack Obama, that’s a choice that he continues to wear it despite Tracy asking him not to… Because she is a Barack Obama supporter and she didn’t want to do anything to sabotage his campaign, so, if he’s still wearing the bracelet then, uh, that of course is entirely up to him.

This sounds like a non-story. When I read the headline to this post, I assumed that the family asked him to stop wearing it out of respect for their son. But after reading this, it looks like they simply are worried that Obama wearing it will be perceived as a political stunt and they don’t want Obama’s campaign to hurt, because he is wearing the bracelet for the family.

So it’s not a matter of him wearing it out of disrespect for their wishes for him not to wear it, it’s a matter of him choosing to continue wearing it, because he doesn’t feel the internet blog talk about it possibly being a political ploy will hurt his campaign. He probably assured the family of this and they, being Obama supporters, felt relieved that he could continue honoring their son with the bracelet and his campaign not be hurt by it.

Bottom line is that the Jopek family does want Obama to wear the bracelet to honor their son, but not if it hurts Obama’s campaign. So long as it does not hurt his campaign, they seem fine with it.

Non-story, Ed.

Michael in MI on September 28, 2008 at 11:15 AM

I don’t agree with Mrs. Jopek, but it sounds like she gave the bracelet to Barack in good faith, and he has worn it in good faith.

unclesmrgol on September 28, 2008 at 11:14 AM

That is my take as well. The only reason she even thought about him not wearing it is if it was going to hurt his campaign.

Michael in MI on September 28, 2008 at 11:16 AM

My thoughts and prayers to Sgt. Jopek’s family.

Senator Obama was disgusting in they way he treated the matter. The matter in which he used Sgt. Jopek’s name
should have at least bothered most Americans.

Jamson64 on September 28, 2008 at 11:17 AM

Mrs Jopek,
The legacy that your son, and his sacrifice, and the sacrifice of the others in our armed forces, will be far more lasting and substantial then anything Barack Obama will ever accomplish.
Sincerely,

Just A Grunt on September 28, 2008 at 11:20 AM

and he has worn it in good faith.

unclesmrgol on September 28, 2008 at 11:14 AM

Let’s just get one thing straight…. B. Hussein Obama doesn’t do anything in “good faith”.

RightWinged on September 28, 2008 at 11:23 AM

They are not that stupid…

d1carter on September 28, 2008 at 11:25 AM

DfDeportation on September 28, 2008 at 11:23 AM

I’ve never seen anyone more fanatically single-issue.

jgapinoy on September 28, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Let’s not make an issue of this. The Jopek family has been through enough. Let them say what they want to say on their own.

Criticize Obama for not remembering his name. Leave it at that. Don’t get into trying to speak on behalf of the Jopek family.

Obama really is cynical to wear the bracelet without caring enough to remember the name.

indythinker on September 28, 2008 at 11:28 AM

Socialists have no honor.

Benjamin9 on September 28, 2008 at 11:30 AM

The Jopeks will categorically deny the story is true and affirm their support for the Messiah. The Drive-By media will spin this into soundbites that vilify the McCain campaign for questioning the patriotism of the parents of a young man who died needlessly in an unjust war.

ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 11:13 AM

You know the drill well. Guess it’s from years of seeing this stuff happen again and again.

CanadianGuy on September 28, 2008 at 11:32 AM

That is my take as well. The only reason she even thought about him not wearing it is if it was going to hurt his campaign.

Michael in MI on September 28, 2008 at 11:16 AM

The way it hurt him is that he’s a written-word kind of guy, and he used the bracelet the same way he’d (famously) use a teleprompter in order to assure that his words were just right. It was the wrong move — like Bush looking down at his watch while on stage with Jim a few years earlier.

As the Washington Post article asserts, Mrs. Jopek thought Senator Obama needed a counter to McCain’s use of Cpl. Matthew Stanley’s bracelet, and gave him her son’s, along with an explanation of how to use it.

What we had here were two level 60+ magicians going at each other, and one’s talisman failed momentarily.

unclesmrgol on September 28, 2008 at 11:32 AM

Cindy? Cindy Sheehan? Is that you?

Cindy in drag?

petefrt on September 28, 2008 at 11:33 AM

You know the drill well. Guess it’s from years of seeing this stuff happen again and again. – CanadianGuy on September 28, 2008 at 11:32 AM

Santayana was a good teacher.

ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 11:33 AM

Picayune.

Kralizec on September 28, 2008 at 11:37 AM

I’ve never seen anyone more fanatically single-issue.

jgapinoy on September 28, 2008 at 11:27 AM

Despite repeated warnings, DfD has continued spamming threads with off-topic comments. He won’t be back.

Ed Morrissey on September 28, 2008 at 11:38 AM

Bracelet. Flag Pin.

Obama bling, blinding the cult.

fogw on September 28, 2008 at 11:38 AM

unclesmrgol on September 28, 2008 at 11:32 AM

I agree to a point. I guess I cannot get too worked up about this, because all during the Cindy Sheehan circus, I would ask people if they knew about her son, and not many people I asked even knew her son’s name. But they all knew about Cindy Sheehan. So I always made a point to send them to the great post by Matt Burden at Blackfive honoring Casey Sheehan.

With this, I tend to believe Obama simply blanked on the name. I do believe he set it up as a political stunt, because I don’t believe he cares one whit about the military or military families. So it’s sweet karma that his political stunt came back to bite him in the behind. However, it is shame that now the name of this soldier will be forever linked to this Obama gaffe. He deserves better.

The other annoying thing is that if the same thing happened to McCain (he simply blanked out on remembering a name and had to look at a bracelet or notes or something), the press would eat him alive. As it is, they are giving him a complete pass on this. Even SNL didn’t bother to make fun of him over it. Granted, maybe they thought it tacky, considering most people who wear military bracelets like that take it seriously and solemnly and maybe SNL actually decided to have some class and not make it into a satirical skit. I’d like to believe that, but I never have associated Hollywood with having any class.

Michael in MI on September 28, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Maybe we should all look at it like this: a whole lot more people know about Sgt. Jopek now than did before Friday night and that’s a good thing. We now know who he is and what he did and how he died. If it took Obama’s political posturing or disregarding the family’s wishes to make that happen, then so be it.

Bennett on September 28, 2008 at 11:44 AM

There’s this interesting paragraph buried in the newsbuster.org:

Radio host Glenn Moberg of the show “Route 51″ asked Mr. Jopek, a man who believes in the efforts in Iraq and is not in favor of Obama’s positions on the war, what he and his ex-wife think of Obama continually using their son’s name on the campaign trail.

Accessing the referenced “Route 51″ page, you get this:

Route 51 marks the fifth anniversary of the Iraq War. Guests will be two local men who served in the conflict and had their lives changed by it. Brian Jopek of Merrill is a Staff Sergeant and Public Affairs Officer with the Wisconsin Army Guard who spent a year in Mosul and is scheduled to be deployed next week to Guantanamo. In August of 2006, he lost his 20 year old son Ryan to a roadside bomb….

This does indeed appear to be yet another Cindy Sheehan moment, where mom didn’t agree with dad and the kids on something, and just went off to do her own thing.

I’m thinking that if Mrs. Jopek has had second thoughts on the use of her son’s memory based on her husband’s wishes, she’s far better than Cindy Sheehan, who tore her family apart over her opposition to the war.

unclesmrgol on September 28, 2008 at 11:46 AM

Bennett on September 28, 2008 at 11:44 AM

That was not my experience with people regarding Casey Sheehan and the Cindy Sheehan circus. Most people I talked to about it knew all about Cindy Sheehan and her nonsense, but had no idea who was Casey Sheehan and how he served and how he died in service.

But, if this turns out differently and people actually do stop to find out who was SGT Jopek, then I agree, that is a good thing.

Michael in MI on September 28, 2008 at 11:47 AM

Obama could have just tapped his heart and said the thoughts of all of our wounded and sadly passed away soldiers sits right here

That was one way to handle it

Look – I am not ginning up like some commentators here to dislike Obama – that was no ED’s intention

I’m just not voting for him because he’s not what America needs – nor do I support all that he stands for

EricPWJohnson on September 28, 2008 at 11:49 AM

That should be NOT Eds intention

sorry

EricPWJohnson on September 28, 2008 at 11:50 AM

Ofool will remove the bracelet if he gets elected, by then the political motive for needing it will have served its purpose and into the trash it goes.

Bishop on September 28, 2008 at 11:52 AM

Obama’s use of the bracelet was obviously planned, and I’d have a hard time believing that no one would have thought to check with the Jopeks first.

But don’t forget Ed, this is the most arrogant bunch of dumb asses to ever run a campaign, evuh!

thekingtut on September 28, 2008 at 11:52 AM

unclesmrgol on September 28, 2008 at 11:46 AM

Good catch there. It does sound like a case of the mother disagreeing with her (now ex-)husband and son with regards to the war effort. However, that makes me wonder if the son would want his name used in this way by his mother. No, this mother does not seem to be as wacked as Cindy Sheehan, but she still did use her son’s death for political purposes.

What’s interesting about the whole redux from the Cindy Sheehan nonsense is that I have read stories and articles on milblogs where soldiers were writing their own ‘in case of death’ letters to make sure their names would not be used in a way in which they did not intend, as Cindy did with Casey. Unfortunately, Ryan does not have a voice and a say in this matter of how his name is being used by his mother.

Michael in MI on September 28, 2008 at 11:52 AM

The other annoying thing is that if the same thing happened to McCain (he simply blanked out on remembering a name and had to look at a bracelet or notes or something), the press would eat him alive.

Michael in MI on September 28, 2008 at 11:43 AM

I think the press did give him a pass, especially on the Ach-whatever think; I can’t say his name either, and I suspect many thinking Americans [both liberal and conservative] can’t as well, based on my lunchtime political conversations in the cafeteria. The press is treating three of the four candidates deferentially — the knives are out for Palin only, it appears.

unclesmrgol on September 28, 2008 at 12:00 PM

You know if you pay attention to the debate, eagle eyed attention, you find that right when McCain starts to lift his arm to expose the bracelet and starts talking about it; Obama looks directly down to his almost in a frantic motion and adjusts it and then the camera cuts away from the wide shot to a tight shot of McCain and the bracelet. Very calculating.

Cardiganfox on September 28, 2008 at 12:01 PM

I just cruised ACE of Spades site,apparenttly the
family has asked him to stop wearing!

This reminds of President Bush looking down
at his watch moment,and the MSM had a field
day!

Obama though,——————crickets!

canopfor on September 28, 2008 at 12:01 PM

During the debate my take on the bracelets was that McCain wanted a reminder to honor those that sacrificed for the war and do the right thing by winning and finishing the job in Iraq.
Whereas Obama was wearing a bracelet to symbolize that no other mother will suffer in losing a son in war; i.e. Obama is anti-war. (He could just as well be wearing a bracelet with Cindy Sheehan’s son’s name on it.)
As a President one must send people off to war and some will die and be wounded. But if you are an anti-war President then no troops will be sent ever. How does this anti-war, no mother’s suffer for the loss of a child, square away with Obama wanting to ratchet up the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan? More sons and daugthers will die there with the increase in troops Obama sends into combat.

albill on September 28, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Literally wearing a soldier on his sleeve for political gain.

These are the same bastards who in year 2000 instructed lawyers to aggressively target military ballots in Florida for disqualification. You see, democrats know how the troops really vote; when stunt-soldiers like Jack Murtha and John Kerry are removed from the stage, and real soldiers speak their real consciences, they say, thanks democrats, but NO THANKS.

Let’s not wait till it’s too late. For the troops, let’s defeat Obama and all these democrat PHONIES by a landslide.

jeff_from_mpls on September 28, 2008 at 12:09 PM

That was not my experience with people regarding Casey Sheehan and the Cindy Sheehan circus. Most people I talked to about it knew all about Cindy Sheehan and her nonsense but had no idea who was Casey Sheehan and how he served and how he died in service….
Michael in MI on September 28, 2008 at 11:47 AM

That’s because Cindy Sheehan has made herself the focus right from the beginning. Whether she meant to do it or not, her son’s death became a way to get into the public eye and be the catalyst for her political ambitions. It doesn’t seem as if the Jopeks have that intention.

The only thing I thought during the bracelet exchange at the debates was that there was a time when people wore bracelets with John McCain’s name engraved on them. And whatever a bracelet might or might not mean to Senator Obama, it could never come close to what Cpl. Stanley’s bracelet must mean to Senator McCain.

Bennett on September 28, 2008 at 12:09 PM

I wonder if he wears the stage prop in private, naw I don’t really wonder he must keep it next to his flag pin.

Oh well back to clinging onto my bible and gun.

cmptrnerd on September 28, 2008 at 12:12 PM

What we had here were two level 60+ magicians going at each other, and one’s talisman failed momentarily.

unclesmrgol

No, what we have here is a level 50 Warrior going up against a level 20 Rogue who has unusually high bluff, intimidate, and persuade skills. Damn! I can’t believe I worked a DnD reference into a post. It’s usually Star wars. I’m such a nerd.

thekingtut on September 28, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Let’s also not forget that it’s not just soldiers we honor.

We also honor the first fighters in the war on terror, the people of United Flight 93 and the other flights that were used by our enemy as weapons against us. It would sicken them to have known in their last moments that the democrat party would adopt a defense that blamed America first, and not those animals who punched and kicked them in the cabin, and slashed their throats with boxcutters.

How DARE democrats adopt a stance that always begins, “yes, terrorists are bad, BUT…” tolerance diversity miranda rights due process grand jury Dick Cheney, Haliburton.

BUT my ass! Democrats are traitors and it sickens me that the brave men and women on United 93 are SPAT on seven years later by these anti-American hacks.

jeff_from_mpls on September 28, 2008 at 12:18 PM

No, what we have here is a level 50 Warrior going up against a level 20 Rogue who has unusually high bluff, intimidate, and persuade skills. Damn! I can’t believe I worked a DnD reference into a post. It’s usually Star wars. I’m such a nerd.

thekingtut on September 28, 2008 at 12:17 PM

No, what we had was a high stakes game of Pong where one opponent skillfully manipulated the joystick to bump the little ball at just the right angle to confound his opponent.

I’m a total video game FREAK as you can see.

jeff_from_mpls on September 28, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Whereas Obama was wearing a bracelet to symbolize that no other mother will suffer in losing a son in war; i.e. Obama is anti-war.

albill- exactly.

MayBee on September 28, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Obama’s use of the bracelet was obviously planned, and I’d have a hard time believing that no one would have thought to check with the Jopeks first.

You are having a brain fart, right Ed?
I know, I know…. it’s been a long weekend, you’ll feel better after you take a vacation.

In other news, HUGE pigs are flying and the Obama campaign pulled their thirty (30) retired Palin investigators from Wasilly, Alaska, due to the fact that they were wasting time/money and doing un-fun things like fishing and moose hunting.

Some other strange things are happening, the locals report: NBC news journalists are apologizing for not verifying their facts before reporting on Palin’s history.

Alaska residents are reportedly having heart attacks when apologized to…..
And doctors are at a loss how to cure or prevent this strange phenomena.

The local Alaskans are also afraid that they won’t be able to afford houses anymore, due to the skyrocketing prices as a result of hoards of journalists retiring there.

Mcguyver on September 28, 2008 at 12:56 PM

albill on September 28, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Whereas Obama was wearing a bracelet to symbolize that no other mother will suffer in losing a son in war; i.e. Obama is anti-war.

Bingo. If anything, he should be wearing Cindy Sheehan’s bra.

fogw on September 28, 2008 at 12:56 PM

I am usually pretty understanding about anti-war folks, we need them. Imagine the heartache of being anti-war but the child you raised not embracing your same beliefs. That’s tough on a parent to begin with, then to lose him. It should be enough that it was what he believed in but I am sure it isn’t. She probably asked Sen.Obama to stop wearing the bracelet when her privacy was invaded. That being said, it was unfortunate that he fumbled with the name but I doubt the family sees any intentional slight, because there wasn’t any.

Cindy Munford on September 28, 2008 at 12:57 PM

That being said, it was unfortunate that he fumbled with the name but I doubt the family sees any intentional slight, because there wasn’t any.

Cindy Munford on September 28, 2008 at 12:57 PM

I agree. Substitute Obama fumbling and forgetting the name of Casey Sheehan, and I seriously doubt Cindy Sheehan would have been upset or been offended. She would have just been glad that Obama was standing up and speaking for the many military families across the country who do not agree with the war effort. That was the point he was supposed to make and he messed it up by having a brain-fart and forgetting the name.

Michael in MI on September 28, 2008 at 1:07 PM

I’ve always given Ms. Sheehan a pass to because different people grieve differnt ways. But most people think she was probably a nut before the death of her son and she has not improved since. I don’t know her so I can’t say but I wish I could say that she has acquitted herself well but she has become a joke to both sides. It’s very sad.

Cindy Munford on September 28, 2008 at 1:12 PM

That was the point he was supposed to make and he messed it up by having a brain-fart and forgetting the name.

Michael in MI on September 28, 2008 at 1:07 PM

I agree. Forgive and forget. In the same way the MSM overlooked all of the Bush brain-farts and misunderstatements over the last eight years.

/sarcoff

fogw on September 28, 2008 at 1:16 PM

I am usually pretty understanding about anti-war folks, we need them.

I have sympathy for anti-war folks, and in a just world I would be anti-war myself.
What I’m not understanding of is an anti-war Commander in Chief. I don’t want a war-monger, I don’t want someone who is callous, I don’t want a guy that thinks pulling out of Iraq at the wrong time for the country is a good idea because mothers are sad.

Mothers love their children. I love mine, and don’t want them to die for anything. Not for war, not to save someone from a fire, not to stop a bullet from hitting the President. I don’t want the President to not do something he has to do because we mothers would be sad.

MayBee on September 28, 2008 at 1:22 PM

Obama views them as useful idiots. As he does all of his voters.

SouthernGent on September 28, 2008 at 1:52 PM

MayBee on September 28, 2008 at 1:22 PM

My husband fought in the war that no one wanted to win, so I know what you mean. I astound people when I tell them I would be proud if any of my children decided to go into the service. When they ask about the possibility of them dying in war I further confuse them by suggesting that it was always a possibility but it was a known part of the equation. None of my children made that choice so maybe this is easy for me to say but if any of my children could have a drink to many, get behind the wheel of a car and kill themselves and possibly others,they will have know the equation and made that choice and it will be for nothing. People who fight and die in war are usually noble people defending the country that allows them to live in the greatest nation in the world. That’s a choice I can live with.

Cindy Munford on September 28, 2008 at 2:01 PM

Hell, he had to actually look down and read the bracelet. He doesn’t care about the soldiers or what the bracelets represent. To him they are a stage prop. They are otherwise meaningless to him.

Guardian on September 28, 2008 at 11:05 AM

Exactly.

evenfarer on September 28, 2008 at 2:03 PM

Those who know war hate it the most.

Those on the extreme left who call themselves “anti-war” would start one if it helped them push their agenda through.

evenfarer on September 28, 2008 at 2:07 PM

Obama views them as useful idiots. As he does all of his voters.

SouthernGent on September 28, 2008 at 1:52 PM

That’s correct. He needs them to continue passing carbon dioxide so that global warming stays at it’s current pace.

Mcguyver on September 28, 2008 at 2:16 PM

evenfarer on September 28, 2008 at 2:07 PM

No, they wouldn’t start a war. The would come in the dead of night and destroy personal property or they would slander peoples’ children. They would never get it to a face to face battle, look at what they do when they get caught breaking the law and get arrested. They lay down and squeal about brutality like the little piglets that they are.

Cindy Munford on September 28, 2008 at 2:20 PM

Without any let up, the McCain campaign should beat Oblahblah over the head for the bracelet, and lapel pin. Traitorous SOB!

TREASON = THE NEW DEMOCRATS PATRIOTISM

byteshredder on September 28, 2008 at 2:47 PM

This all started because McSame was reverting to his usual maudlin tactics instead of actual debate.

I guess most missed McSame looking down at his bracelet 4 times before naming the soldier. He actually looked at his bracelet more then Obambi did his. (Watch the vid from another thread here at HA)

Obambi’s only flub was starting off with, “I received a bracelet from Sergeant….”, then corrected himself by saying, “from the mother of Sergeant Ryan David Jopeck…” So no one can say for sure that Obambi didn’t know the soldiers name.

It’s partisan political conjecture that assumes he didn’t know. Here’s an example of the opposite. “McSame didn’t know the name of the soldier because he had to re-read the name on his bracelet 4 times.”

Chimpy on September 28, 2008 at 3:15 PM

Chimpy on September 28, 2008 at 3:15 PM

For a troll you aren’t subtle – either with your verbiage or your screen name.

ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 3:38 PM

I think I will start calling my screwdriver “chimpy”

Jamson64 on September 28, 2008 at 5:43 PM

The family better be careful to not protest too much. Their beloved Obama may call out the Truth Squads for a midnight visit!
If Our Dear Obama says he was given the bracelet to wear, he was given the bracelet to wear. To contradict Obama is error.
To contradict Obama is to lie. And to lie, is to be punished.

JellyToast on September 28, 2008 at 5:59 PM

The Braclet !!!!…I have the Braclet !!!…They gave me a Braclet !!!

franksalterego on September 28, 2008 at 6:35 PM

The Braclet !!!!…I have the Braclet !!!…They gave me a Braclet !!!

franksalterego on September 28, 2008 at 6:35 PM

They gave me a hat. I have the hat to this day. I have the hat. — John Kerry, last Presidential election, 2004

Doesn’t sound like all that much has changed for the “Hope and Change” candidate….

theregoestheneighborhood on September 28, 2008 at 7:09 PM

I agree. Forgive and forget. In the same way the MSM overlooked all of the Bush brain-farts and misunderstatements over the last eight years.

/sarcoff

fogw on September 28, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Yes, because we are better than the mass media and prefer to focus on policy and ideology instead of dumb gotchas, right? Oh wait, you were being sarcastic. So I guess we are to sink as low as the media and play their stupid game. Ok then, carry on.

Michael in MI on September 28, 2008 at 7:12 PM

MILWAUKEE — The mother of a Wisconsin soldier who died in Iraq says she was “ecstatic” during Friday’s debate when Sen. Barack Obama mentioned the bracelet she gave him in honor of her son.

Tracy Jopek, of Merrill, told the Associated Press on Sunday she was honored that he remembered Sgt. Ryan David Jopek, who was killed in 2006 by a roadside bomb.

She criticized Internet reports that suggested Obama exploited her son for political purposes. She acknowledges e-mailing the campaign in February asking that Obama not mention her son in speeches or debates.

But she said Obama’s mention on Friday was appropriate because he was responding after Sen. John McCain said a soldier’s mother gave him a bracelet.

Jopek said Obama’s comment rightfully suggested there’s more than one viewpoint on the war.

SnarkVader on September 28, 2008 at 7:25 PM

Wow. Blown out of the water on this one. What’s funnier… look at all those people who trackbacked/pinged this story. Is there enough egg in the world to cover all those faces?

Len on September 28, 2008 at 7:36 PM

I feel a familiar fullness. Excuse me, please, while I visit my Chimpy.

Caststeel on September 28, 2008 at 7:45 PM

This is just like the throwing flower thing at Ground Zero. Stupid? Yes. Worth all this hoo-hah? Doubtful.

mjk on September 28, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Oh wait, you were being sarcastic. So I guess we are to sink as low as the media and play their stupid game.

Michael in MI on September 28, 2008 at 7:12 PM

Shouldn’t make fun of your teammates like that.

fogw on September 28, 2008 at 8:11 PM

ManlyRash Jock Itch on September 28, 2008 at 3:38 PM

FIFY

Jamson64 on September 28, 2008 at 5:43 PM

Did I “hammer“ too hard?

Caststeel on September 28, 2008 at 7:45 PM

Chimpy can’t do anything for your fat head.

Chimpy on September 28, 2008 at 8:31 PM

Well according to the WA Times Mom said she was ecstatic that Obama used her son’s name – but didn’t explain to us when she gave permission for Barack Obama to again use her son’s name after she admittedly asked him to stop.

So yeah, I think she’s been asked to say something on behalf of Obama. Her ex-husband said she supported BO.

katablog.com on September 28, 2008 at 9:02 PM

Whew. Sorry about the delay, guys. I just took a wicked chimpy and I think I clogged the toilet.

ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 9:06 PM

Did I “hammer“ too hard?
Chimpy on September 28, 2008 at 8:31 PM

Once a tool, always a tool.

Jamson64 on September 28, 2008 at 9:22 PM

Even if she is ‘ecstatic’ Obama still had to look at the bracelet to remember her son’s name.

scrubjay on September 28, 2008 at 9:23 PM

Oslime-a is a sack of crap. Regardless of the outcome of the election, we will always have patriots who stand for everything that lying scumbag is not.

csdeven on September 28, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Ed,

Per HotAir (in the Headlines section), it appears like the confirmation was received!

mycowardice on September 28, 2008 at 10:24 PM

How DARE democrats adopt a stance that always begins, “yes, terrorists are bad, BUT…” tolerance diversity miranda rights due process grand jury Dick Cheney, Haliburton.

BUT my ass! Democrats are traitors and it sickens me that the brave men and women on United 93 are SPAT on seven years later by these anti-American hacks.

jeff_from_mpls on September 28, 2008 at 12:18 PM

It saddens me that a fellow citizen of mine would consider me a “traitor” for holding a different political opinion. Although I strongly disagree with many of McCain’s views, I respect the man and consider him a patriot. I’ve known some kind, decent, and patriotic republicans. I think that their opinion is wrong, but I think most of them hold it in good faith. As for your comments about democrats being over concerned about the due process of law and the constitution. I personally think the highest form of patriotism one can have is to put personal security aside to live free as an American. I’d much rather die in a terrorist attack, then live under a compromised constitution.

Ric on September 28, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Well, it’s official — we have a Cindy Sheehan situation here. Mr. Jopek (in the Guard and currently serving) doesn’t want his son to be an Obama campaign prop, and Mrs. Jopek is “ecstatic” over Obama’s use of her son’s bracelet.

I guess we can understand partly why the Jopek’s are divorced.

I’d much rather die in a terrorist attack, then live under a compromised constitution.

Ric on September 28, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Good of you to admit that an Obama Presidency opens the way to more terrorist attacks.

I’d rather not die in a terrorist attack.

Obama’s “Truth Squads” are already trampling the Constitution, in a return to the Sedition Acts. I think I’ll pass on that too.

unclesmrgol on September 28, 2008 at 10:43 PM

I’d rather not die in a terrorist attack.

Obama’s “Truth Squads” are already trampling the Constitution, in a return to the Sedition Acts. I think I’ll pass on that too.

So are you saying that our fundamental liberties under the constiution as Americans should be compromised in the name of security? As for the Sedition Acts, I think its extreme hyberbole to consider Obama’s lawer trying to enforce libel laws in Missouri as a return to the Sedition Acts. If your remember your history, Sedition act was passed by the Federalits in order to prohibit all poltical oppostion. And so people were actually arrested under the law. How can they “trample” the constitution when there are supporting a law deemed constinutional. Having said that, I think the Obama campaign should knock it off, they have the money to counter false claims, and its not worth the bad publicity.

Ric on September 28, 2008 at 10:58 PM

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