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		<title>By: Pat Dollard &#124; Young Americans &#124; Blog Archive &#187; Alert: Bailout Deal Reached &#8230; With Videos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Dollard &#124; Young Americans &#124; Blog Archive &#187; Alert: Bailout Deal Reached &#8230; With Videos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: miamipress.net &#124; miamipress.net</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/28/bailout-deal-reached/comment-page-5/#comment-1537647</link>
		<dc:creator>miamipress.net &#124; miamipress.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bailout deal reached; Update: ACORN, other pork removed [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hard Starboard</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/28/bailout-deal-reached/comment-page-5/#comment-1471691</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Starboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Deal...&lt;/strong&gt;

....is still God-awful. But it&#039;s a lot better than it could have been had John McCain not done the unexpected by sticking up for House Republicans in his otherwise disastrous attempt to intervene in the Wall Street b[uy]out negotiations: A......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Deal&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>&#8230;.is still God-awful. But it&#8217;s a lot better than it could have been had John McCain not done the unexpected by sticking up for House Republicans in his otherwise disastrous attempt to intervene in the Wall Street b[uy]out negotiations: A&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: roxer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/28/bailout-deal-reached/comment-page-5/#comment-1471122</link>
		<dc:creator>roxer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plan is dying in the house...</description>
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		<title>By: CapedConservative</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/28/bailout-deal-reached/comment-page-5/#comment-1471019</link>
		<dc:creator>CapedConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody seen a depression around here?  I&#039;ve been told there would be one daily if there was no bailout.  Nothing signed yet and I still can&#039;t find my depression.

CC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody seen a depression around here?  I&#8217;ve been told there would be one daily if there was no bailout.  Nothing signed yet and I still can&#8217;t find my depression.</p>
<p>CC</p>
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		<title>By: JIMV</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/28/bailout-deal-reached/comment-page-5/#comment-1470882</link>
		<dc:creator>JIMV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Housing Trust fund is a new low income housing scheme that launders money from this program to the states where they in turn can distribute it to:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Eligible recipients of grants from the states are organizations and agencies (for-profit and non-profit) that demonstrate 1) the experience and capacity to produce the kind of housing the program calls for, 2) the financial capacity to undertake the eligible activity, and 3) familiarity with federal, state, and local housing programs.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Although the program prohibits money going for political purposes, it does not prohibit organizations with a political leaning from getting the loot.ie; if the money goes to housing the organization can use other funds to do its political work....ie; La Raza or ACORN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Housing Trust fund is a new low income housing scheme that launders money from this program to the states where they in turn can distribute it to:</p>
<blockquote><p>Eligible recipients of grants from the states are organizations and agencies (for-profit and non-profit) that demonstrate 1) the experience and capacity to produce the kind of housing the program calls for, 2) the financial capacity to undertake the eligible activity, and 3) familiarity with federal, state, and local housing programs.
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<p>Although the program prohibits money going for political purposes, it does not prohibit organizations with a political leaning from getting the loot.ie; if the money goes to housing the organization can use other funds to do its political work&#8230;.ie; La Raza or ACORN</p>
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		<title>By: JIMV</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/28/bailout-deal-reached/comment-page-5/#comment-1470867</link>
		<dc:creator>JIMV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They need another update on this thread...Look at section 106 of the new bill. They deleted Acorn and La Raza BUT kept the 20% of profits provision alive, route the cash to two unknown agency&#039;s, and make no provision or protection at all to keep those agencies from then rerouting the money to...ACORN and La Raza. It&#039;s heads I win tails you lose.

I found today that my senator was not even aware of this. He was told the language had been removed from the new draft. Just who ate the &#039;Housing trust fund&#039; and &#039;Capital Magnet Fund&#039;?

I smell scam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They need another update on this thread&#8230;Look at section 106 of the new bill. They deleted Acorn and La Raza BUT kept the 20% of profits provision alive, route the cash to two unknown agency&#8217;s, and make no provision or protection at all to keep those agencies from then rerouting the money to&#8230;ACORN and La Raza. It&#8217;s heads I win tails you lose.</p>
<p>I found today that my senator was not even aware of this. He was told the language had been removed from the new draft. Just who ate the &#8216;Housing trust fund&#8217; and &#8216;Capital Magnet Fund&#8217;?</p>
<p>I smell scam</p>
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		<title>By: Fair Weather Laissez-faire &#171; Penguin in a Wheatfield</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/28/bailout-deal-reached/comment-page-5/#comment-1470849</link>
		<dc:creator>Fair Weather Laissez-faire &#171; Penguin in a Wheatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] way, a deal has been reached.  Thank goodness the new plan actually has oversight into how the money is spent.  While it may [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Calm Before the Storm</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/28/bailout-deal-reached/comment-page-5/#comment-1470597</link>
		<dc:creator>Calm Before the Storm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are republicans too stupid to find a way to tar and feather these democrat criminals? Sounds like a job for Rudy.</description>
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		<title>By: Beo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/28/bailout-deal-reached/comment-page-5/#comment-1470576</link>
		<dc:creator>Beo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um... what about the rider to ban tapping the interior shale formations for oil?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230; what about the rider to ban tapping the interior shale formations for oil?</p>
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		<title>By: Vashta.Nerada</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/28/bailout-deal-reached/comment-page-5/#comment-1470468</link>
		<dc:creator>Vashta.Nerada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It also suspends mark-to-market rules and requires a study on their effects on the collapse.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That represents the bulk of the liquidity problem.  How about suspending that rule, and waiting a few weeks before pushing the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It also suspends mark-to-market rules and requires a study on their effects on the collapse.</p></blockquote>
<p>That represents the bulk of the liquidity problem.  How about suspending that rule, and waiting a few weeks before pushing the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Xiphos</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/28/bailout-deal-reached/comment-page-5/#comment-1470402</link>
		<dc:creator>Xiphos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rep. Thaddeus McCotter, who gave you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPc9xG1sajI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;how to speak Democrat&lt;/a&gt;, now gives you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&amp;products_id=281419-2&amp;showVid=true&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;his opinion &lt;/a&gt; on the bailout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rep. Thaddeus McCotter, who gave you <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPc9xG1sajI" rel="nofollow">how to speak Democrat</a>, now gives you <a href="http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&amp;products_id=281419-2&amp;showVid=true" rel="nofollow">his opinion </a> on the bailout.</p>
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		<title>By: CapedConservative</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/28/bailout-deal-reached/comment-page-5/#comment-1470186</link>
		<dc:creator>CapedConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How can you not make the case for a conspiracy on this?

Economic terrorism against the United States.

Chakra Hammer on September 29, 2008 at 6:33 AM

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

On this?  How about this:

Oppose oil exploration
Oppose drilling
Oppose nuclear
Oppose dam construction
Oppose military
Oppose business (taxed to be non-competitive in the world)
Oppose business (regulated to be non-competeitve)
Oppose rational and fair taxes for citizens
Oppose treatment of war prisoners as war prisoners
Oppose regulation of their ATM (Fannie/Freddie)
Oppose rational credit standards for mortgage companies
Oppose free markets
Oppose free speech

Name ANY other country on the planet that has an internal political party that seems to be working so hard to destroy their own country.

Funding sources:
Soros ($811 million invested in offshore drilling in Brazil)
Sanders (sold Golden West to Wachovia... which is sinking it)
Wall Street (getting their credit default swaps bailed out)

Voting sources:
The 40% of the population that pays no taxes

What conspiracy would you be referring to?

CC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How can you not make the case for a conspiracy on this?</p>
<p>Economic terrorism against the United States.</p>
<p>Chakra Hammer on September 29, 2008 at 6:33 AM</p>
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<p>On this?  How about this:</p>
<p>Oppose oil exploration<br />
Oppose drilling<br />
Oppose nuclear<br />
Oppose dam construction<br />
Oppose military<br />
Oppose business (taxed to be non-competitive in the world)<br />
Oppose business (regulated to be non-competeitve)<br />
Oppose rational and fair taxes for citizens<br />
Oppose treatment of war prisoners as war prisoners<br />
Oppose regulation of their ATM (Fannie/Freddie)<br />
Oppose rational credit standards for mortgage companies<br />
Oppose free markets<br />
Oppose free speech</p>
<p>Name ANY other country on the planet that has an internal political party that seems to be working so hard to destroy their own country.</p>
<p>Funding sources:<br />
Soros ($811 million invested in offshore drilling in Brazil)<br />
Sanders (sold Golden West to Wachovia&#8230; which is sinking it)<br />
Wall Street (getting their credit default swaps bailed out)</p>
<p>Voting sources:<br />
The 40% of the population that pays no taxes</p>
<p>What conspiracy would you be referring to?</p>
<p>CC</p>
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		<title>By: Alert: Bailout Deal Reached … With Videos &#124; WORLD NEWS TREND</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alert: Bailout Deal Reached … With Videos &#124; WORLD NEWS TREND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chakra Hammer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/28/bailout-deal-reached/comment-page-5/#comment-1470172</link>
		<dc:creator>Chakra Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

As I said earlier, ACORN, mortgage modifications, tax items and a number of other things where just dressing for the Dems to “negotiate” away to get Republicans on board. They were never seriously part of the bill. See this.

As far as someone getting tried for treason… never happen. As a matter of fact, I’m very sure that Dodd, Frank, Pelosi and Reid will all be reelected quite handily.

Here in southwest Florida; we occasionally have phenomena known as “Red Tide”. It makes the water toxic to fish… it kills the bait in your bait well. The only way to deal with it is to avoid it completely until is dissipates. Our “Red Tide” is the $60 trillion of credit default swaps. From the indications of Asian and European markets this morning, they know the “Red Tide” still exists.

CC

CapedConservative on September 29, 2008 at 5:51 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How can you not make the case for a conspiracy on this?

Economic terrorism against the United States.</description>
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<p>As I said earlier, ACORN, mortgage modifications, tax items and a number of other things where just dressing for the Dems to “negotiate” away to get Republicans on board. They were never seriously part of the bill. See this.</p>
<p>As far as someone getting tried for treason… never happen. As a matter of fact, I’m very sure that Dodd, Frank, Pelosi and Reid will all be reelected quite handily.</p>
<p>Here in southwest Florida; we occasionally have phenomena known as “Red Tide”. It makes the water toxic to fish… it kills the bait in your bait well. The only way to deal with it is to avoid it completely until is dissipates. Our “Red Tide” is the $60 trillion of credit default swaps. From the indications of Asian and European markets this morning, they know the “Red Tide” still exists.</p>
<p>CC</p>
<p>CapedConservative on September 29, 2008 at 5:51 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>How can you not make the case for a conspiracy on this?</p>
<p>Economic terrorism against the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: CapedConservative</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/28/bailout-deal-reached/comment-page-5/#comment-1470168</link>
		<dc:creator>CapedConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said earlier, ACORN, mortgage modifications, tax items and a number of other things where just dressing for the Dems to &quot;negotiate&quot; away to get Republicans on board.  They were never seriously part of the bill.  See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28759&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.

As far as someone getting tried for treason... never happen.  As a matter of fact, I&#039;m very sure that Dodd, Frank, Pelosi and Reid will all be reelected quite handily.

Here in southwest Florida; we occasionally have phenomena known as “Red Tide”.  It makes the water toxic to fish… it kills the bait in your bait well.  The only way to deal with it is to avoid it completely until is dissipates.  Our “Red Tide” is the $60 trillion of credit default swaps.  From the indications of Asian and European markets this morning, they know the “Red Tide” still exists.

CC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said earlier, ACORN, mortgage modifications, tax items and a number of other things where just dressing for the Dems to &#8220;negotiate&#8221; away to get Republicans on board.  They were never seriously part of the bill.  See <a href="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=28759" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
<p>As far as someone getting tried for treason&#8230; never happen.  As a matter of fact, I&#8217;m very sure that Dodd, Frank, Pelosi and Reid will all be reelected quite handily.</p>
<p>Here in southwest Florida; we occasionally have phenomena known as “Red Tide”.  It makes the water toxic to fish… it kills the bait in your bait well.  The only way to deal with it is to avoid it completely until is dissipates.  Our “Red Tide” is the $60 trillion of credit default swaps.  From the indications of Asian and European markets this morning, they know the “Red Tide” still exists.</p>
<p>CC</p>
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		<title>By: Chakra Hammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chakra Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Does anyone know which politician had inserted these dumb slush fund languages into the bill?

Kaitian on September 29, 2008 at 2:32 AM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That person needs to go to tried for treason or at least go to jail.</description>
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Does anyone know which politician had inserted these dumb slush fund languages into the bill?</p>
<p>Kaitian on September 29, 2008 at 2:32 AM
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<p>That person needs to go to tried for treason or at least go to jail.</p>
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		<title>By: Elitada News &#187; ACORN was still in draft bill&#8230; UNfreakinbelievable!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elitada News &#187; ACORN was still in draft bill&#8230; UNfreakinbelievable!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bailout deal reached; Update: ACORN, other pork removed [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ACORN was still in draft bill&#8230; UNfreakinbelievable! &#171; The Sadim Touch</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACORN was still in draft bill&#8230; UNfreakinbelievable! &#171; The Sadim Touch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bailout deal reached; Update: ACORN, other pork removed [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kaitian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaitian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know which politician had inserted these dumb slush fund languages into the bill?</description>
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		<title>By: capitalist piglet</title>
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		<dc:creator>capitalist piglet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I found this over on FR…

If you have an extra couple of minutes I would suggest taking a look at it.

Obama &amp; ACORN

Great for those trying to get into the mood for Halloween, it’s positively frightening.

Dorvillian on September 28, 2008 at 11:20 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow. That&#039;ll get you in a panic.

Is there not a single honorable journalist in the mainstream? Is there not &lt;em&gt;one&lt;/em&gt;??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I found this over on FR…</p>
<p>If you have an extra couple of minutes I would suggest taking a look at it.</p>
<p>Obama &amp; ACORN</p>
<p>Great for those trying to get into the mood for Halloween, it’s positively frightening.</p>
<p>Dorvillian on September 28, 2008 at 11:20 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow. That&#8217;ll get you in a panic.</p>
<p>Is there not a single honorable journalist in the mainstream? Is there not <em>one</em>??</p>
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		<title>By: techno_barbarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>techno_barbarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is that the Woman that wants to “Socialize” our Oil Industry?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqjFBiPMmBE

Chakra Hammer on September 29, 2008 at 12:57 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why yes. Yes it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is that the Woman that wants to “Socialize” our Oil Industry?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqjFBiPMmBE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqjFBiPMmBE</a></p>
<p>Chakra Hammer on September 29, 2008 at 12:57 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Why yes. Yes it is.</p>
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		<title>By: davidcherr</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidcherr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The provisions allowing the government to give relief to homeowners whose mortgages are purchased may be dead letter, because the government is not purchasing whole mortgages, they are purchasing securities backed by streams of payment from part of a pool of mortgages.  Those mortgages are held in special trusts, governed by pooling and servicing agreements that PROHOBIT mortgage modification, since mortgage modification such as reducing the payment and/or reducing the principal would be considered unfair to those who bought the bottom tranches (e.g., those who bought securities backed by the payments between the bottom 50% to 60%, or 80% to 90%, of the payment stream).  It is very unlikely that the government will wind up with 100% of a given mortgage, given how they were sliced and diced.  And any attempt to violate the pooling and servicing agreements that prohibit modification would plunge the whole enterprise into years of litigation, which would prevent the very un-freezing of the market that the government seeks.

The complex mortgage backed securities were always based on blind trust in the institutions that issued them, and the assumption that real estate never goes down.  Since both of those assumptions were wrong, there will be unavoidable losses.

What the government should do is focus on buying the tranches backed by the top 50% of payments, and then pass a law stating that if a homeowner facing foreclosure so desires, they can rent the foreclosed property for 50% of what the 30-year fully amortized mortgage payment would have been, plus taxes and insurance and a payment into a maintenance reserve account in the amount of 1 month&#039;s rent every year.  The person could stay as long as they wanted, and to the extent they treated the property well, they would get money back when they move.  Provisions could be added giving them an option to buy at a slight discount to market after a time, or giving them a portion of profits if, after a time, the government wants to sell the property and the new owner wants to occupy.

This would give relief to people who honestly wanted to live in the house they bought, but just got caught up in the (Fed-Fannie-Freddie induced) bubble and overpaid.  Extra provisions could be added which would limit new non-housing debts as a percentage of income, and a requirement that if the rent dropped below 3/8ths of income, the difference between rent and 3/8ths would have to go into a 401(K) or be used to pay down other debts still outstanding.

This is the economic equivalent of a bankruptcy mortgage modification, without having to amend pooling and servicing agreements, and without poisoning the entire financing market for primary residences with Obama&#039;s bankruptcy provision, which, if adopted broadly, would instantly raise interest rates for all homeowners and reduce the value of their homes accordingly.

This solution also creates desirable and stable investment properties for small investors who have been starved for product during the entire boom.  And to the extent the newly rented houses sell as investments, the government would recover nicely, as the foreclosure proceeds came in and paid off the first tranches of the mortgage backed securities.  Of course, the people holding MBSs know that, and are going to try to dump the worthless lower tranche MBSs on the Treasury, while keeping the upper tranches for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The provisions allowing the government to give relief to homeowners whose mortgages are purchased may be dead letter, because the government is not purchasing whole mortgages, they are purchasing securities backed by streams of payment from part of a pool of mortgages.  Those mortgages are held in special trusts, governed by pooling and servicing agreements that PROHOBIT mortgage modification, since mortgage modification such as reducing the payment and/or reducing the principal would be considered unfair to those who bought the bottom tranches (e.g., those who bought securities backed by the payments between the bottom 50% to 60%, or 80% to 90%, of the payment stream).  It is very unlikely that the government will wind up with 100% of a given mortgage, given how they were sliced and diced.  And any attempt to violate the pooling and servicing agreements that prohibit modification would plunge the whole enterprise into years of litigation, which would prevent the very un-freezing of the market that the government seeks.</p>
<p>The complex mortgage backed securities were always based on blind trust in the institutions that issued them, and the assumption that real estate never goes down.  Since both of those assumptions were wrong, there will be unavoidable losses.</p>
<p>What the government should do is focus on buying the tranches backed by the top 50% of payments, and then pass a law stating that if a homeowner facing foreclosure so desires, they can rent the foreclosed property for 50% of what the 30-year fully amortized mortgage payment would have been, plus taxes and insurance and a payment into a maintenance reserve account in the amount of 1 month&#8217;s rent every year.  The person could stay as long as they wanted, and to the extent they treated the property well, they would get money back when they move.  Provisions could be added giving them an option to buy at a slight discount to market after a time, or giving them a portion of profits if, after a time, the government wants to sell the property and the new owner wants to occupy.</p>
<p>This would give relief to people who honestly wanted to live in the house they bought, but just got caught up in the (Fed-Fannie-Freddie induced) bubble and overpaid.  Extra provisions could be added which would limit new non-housing debts as a percentage of income, and a requirement that if the rent dropped below 3/8ths of income, the difference between rent and 3/8ths would have to go into a 401(K) or be used to pay down other debts still outstanding.</p>
<p>This is the economic equivalent of a bankruptcy mortgage modification, without having to amend pooling and servicing agreements, and without poisoning the entire financing market for primary residences with Obama&#8217;s bankruptcy provision, which, if adopted broadly, would instantly raise interest rates for all homeowners and reduce the value of their homes accordingly.</p>
<p>This solution also creates desirable and stable investment properties for small investors who have been starved for product during the entire boom.  And to the extent the newly rented houses sell as investments, the government would recover nicely, as the foreclosure proceeds came in and paid off the first tranches of the mortgage backed securities.  Of course, the people holding MBSs know that, and are going to try to dump the worthless lower tranche MBSs on the Treasury, while keeping the upper tranches for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Dems Very Pleased With Themselves &#171; Nice Deb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dems Very Pleased With Themselves &#171; Nice Deb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ed Morrissey at Hot Air: After this, we need to demand humility from Congress on economic policy.  Government-imposed “fairness” led to this catastrophe, and we’ll pay the price for the Community Reinvestment Act and the manipulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for a generation.  Had we allowed the market to work normally, this never would have happened. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ed Morrissey at Hot Air: After this, we need to demand humility from Congress on economic policy.  Government-imposed “fairness” led to this catastrophe, and we’ll pay the price for the Community Reinvestment Act and the manipulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for a generation.  Had we allowed the market to work normally, this never would have happened. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chakra Hammer</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/memory_lane_lynching_franklin.html

    reshas1 on September 28, 2008 at 6:30 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Is that the Woman that wants to &quot;Socialize&quot; our Oil Industry?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqjFBiPMmBE</description>
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<p>    reshas1 on September 28, 2008 at 6:30 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Is that the Woman that wants to &#8220;Socialize&#8221; our Oil Industry?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqjFBiPMmBE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqjFBiPMmBE</a></p>
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