Video: Pelosi calls House GOP “unpatriotic”
posted at 9:21 pm on September 27, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Just the sort of rhetoric America needs to help these very delicate negotiations along. Compounding the nuance here is her reason for calling them unpatriotic: It’s not the fact that they’re holding out in the middle of a national emergency, it’s the fact that they neglected to show up for negotiations earlier in the week. Go ask Paul Kanjorski — Democrat Paul Kanjorski, who chairs the House Financial Services subcommittee on capital markets — whose fault that is. Then read Roll Call’s report about the Democrats sending eight negotiators to the table tonight when Paulson explicitly asked for two. We’re staring down the barrel of the worst disaster since Katrina or maybe even 9/11 and these people are playing douchebag psych-out games with each other. I can’t wait to see what this poll looks like next week.
The more I think about it, the more I have to believe Kristol’s wrong and things are (relatively) fine. They simply wouldn’t be jerking around this way if there really was an economic nuclear missile inbound. Click your ruby slippers together three times and repeat: They can’t be that stupid, they can’t be that stupid, they can’t be that stupid…
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I hear you fc. God I hope the Marxist is shipped back to Chicago come Nov.
Benjamin9 on September 28, 2008 at 8:48 AM
Under Herr Reid and Pelosi?
Two words:
Pig
Fly
csdeven on September 28, 2008 at 8:49 AM
Here’s what HH actually wrote:
A Responsible Exercise of Representative Government
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 7:46 AM
The outline of the deal reached by legislators and the Administration represents not just the restoration of confidence and liquidity for Wall Street and thus a breakwater for Main Street, but also a reassuring return of purposeful legislating by the Congress. I expect not to like many of the details, but my party is in the minority on the Hill, and cannot expect to carry such matters. President Bush and his team have been acting responsibly throughout this crisis and continue to do so. The most talented and mature Republicans in the Congress –I single out Senator Jon Kyl as I interviewed him on Friday and can thus say with assurance that he has been working hard to resolve this incredibly complex and perilous situation– have been working to assure the package does what it has to do with minimum long-term disruptions to the market. From the account in the Wall Street Journal, Speaker Pelosi also played an important role worthy of her office in bringing the negotiations to a close. All Americans should thank her and the other responsible legislators for working to get this done before the markets opened on Monday.
As Bill Dyer notes below, John McCain has also been working hard to rescue the rescue, demonstrating a presidential temperament that will serve him very well if he is elected and must work with Democratic majorities. (For an account of Senator McCain’s conduct in the White House meeting, see my interview with White House Deputy Chief of Staff Joel Kaplan.) The next question is the the response of the House Republicans, which I hope follow that of the Senate GOP and the Administration. Some will not be able to sign on, I suppose, because they genuinely believe the package to be a disaster. Any sincerely held view should be respected, but I think the majority of the GOP House members will recognize that this is one of those rare moments where they must act as the Democrats did after 9/11 and through the following year –they must act to shape but not obstruct the will of the democratically-elected majority and the president in the course and aftermath of a crisis.
Such episodes as the one we are going through are always watched closely around the globe, and nowhere more so than in emerging democracies like Iraq’s. If, as appears likely, the two parties which are on opposite sides of a deep ideological divide can work together to resolve a crisis and then immediately return to throwing hammers at each other for five weeks, this will be as great an example of the wonders of our system that can be imagined.
Keemo on September 28, 2008 at 8:54 AM
Ew, Polosi looks like she’s about 90 in that photo. Not too flattering.
ErinF on September 28, 2008 at 8:58 AM
Good Morning.
So, I understand Acorn has been stripped out of bill. Is that true?
Now, let’s call our reps and DEMAND that Barney Frank and Chris Dodd, and ANYONE else in congress who caused this mess.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 8:58 AM
Too early….continued
Be HELD ACCOUNTABLE! JAIL/RESIGNATION!
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 8:59 AM
These losers are counting on the fact that most Americans will simply shake their heads in disgust, and go about their business. All Americans should rise up and demand accountability; this is what politicians do to us, turn about is fair play…
Keemo on September 28, 2008 at 9:04 AM
Isn’t this sort of like the left and DDT, an African child dies every 30 seconds, so says Obaam, the fix is DDT, the enviro-nut leftists say no. Markets crash because of government intervention, the fix is more government intervention.
The left only has one song.
This woman looks sick, I guess that’s what happens when you are 68, only four years younger than the “too old” McCain, so many Botox injections, finally it reaches the brain.
You look at the Democrat leadership today, and you have to say to yourself, Oh this is why communism failed.
tarpon on September 28, 2008 at 9:05 AM
All Americans will stand up and demand accountability when they are educated what is happening on the next season of “American Idol”.
csdeven on September 28, 2008 at 9:07 AM
Nice words. But, depending on the content of this agreement to spend our cash, the “revolt” may be back on.
350 Billion up front. Eating the taxpayer funded elephant one bite at a time.
I am not buying the emergency hype, especially a 12:30 am agreement slipping in Sunday morning. It stinks.
Benjamin9 on September 28, 2008 at 9:07 AM
People have no idea what is going on. This bailout will do nothing but prolong the crash and make it much worse by debasing the value of the dollar. Congress cannot fix this. Housing prices are going down 38-43% people are going to lose all their equity but that would not be bad enough, except they keep printing money making this worse and worse.
You need to stop spending money, pay down your debt, cut your expenses by at least 20% and save money but diversify it with precious metals and keep a lot of it in a safe in your house. Finally stock up on food, water and ammunition. Welcome to the new America and a 20% lower standard of living.
Poptech on September 28, 2008 at 9:08 AM
Agreed. But, the congress is well aware of how angry the masses were. I heard yesterday that they received more calls than when we crashed the phone system during the Amnesty debacle.
NOW, we need to flood their emails and phone banks with DEMANDS that if they are going to spend our tax money, we want heads on sticks….
Chris Dodd and Barney Frank, please come to the front office….
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:11 AM
No need. The Obama Civilian Defense Force will be roving our streets, searching for subjects stepping out of line.
Benjamin9 on September 28, 2008 at 9:13 AM
And taking your food and water for the poor…Acorn will be dispersing it to them.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:14 AM
I hope you’re right. But the blame will be put on Bush and the republicans in the beginning. Beyond that? Who knows…..
csdeven on September 28, 2008 at 9:14 AM
You might want to consider re-reading the history of the French Revolution, Limerick. We DO NOT want to go down that path.
The children of every revolution devour their own parents. In our case, it took about 230 years for that to finally happen, as the political descendants of the Founding Fathers gnaw on their bones today.
And I don’t mean to be pedantic, but “wherefore” does not mean “where,” it means “why.” Just sayin’, is all.
ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 9:16 AM
But seriously, we ALL need to call. At least we can try to get accountability on this. They are spending OUR money and everyone is angry about it. If we just sit here silently, they will believe all is fine. Okay, bail them out, but dammit, it is time for someone to pay. INCLUDING THOSE SCUMBAGS IN CONGRESS!
Call Fax Email and drive them crazy. Okay, crazier than they already are.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:17 AM
Never. In act, the Drive-By media will laud them as heroes while it vilifies the Republicans as traitors.
Next question.
ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 9:18 AM
Good morning, Rash.
Feel a little better this morning. Acorn is supposedly out.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:18 AM
A fifty state secession?
Benjamin9 on September 28, 2008 at 9:18 AM
MR,
Isn’t using the word “pedantic”…ostentatious in itself?
:-)
j/k, couldn’t resist!
csdeven on September 28, 2008 at 9:19 AM
In the famous words of Joe Wilson, I want to see some folks “frog marched” out of the respective holes. And I’m not talking about Karl Rove.
Cindy Munford on September 28, 2008 at 9:19 AM
In blue states, perhaps. In red states they’ll be met with a hail of gunfire.
ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 9:21 AM
Feeling better today, Hornet? You looked kinda queasy last nite.
ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 9:22 AM
Doesn’t matter. I don’t listen to the MSM and those with half a brain know what happened here. If we all call and DEMAND ACTION, they cannot ignore us. If all of those who called to complain about it demand Dodd and Frank are held accountable…who knows what might happen? It’s worth a try.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:22 AM
I think Funky Chicken gave me somanella. Feel better this morning, just still a little angry. Damn congress!
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:23 AM
I noticed in the WSJ article that it was the “conservative” Democrats that came up with idea after idea and then finally our heroine Nancy came in and brought it all together. They are going to have to change the course of studies at colleges and universities from journalism to Official Spokesman for the Democratic Party. Disgusting.
Cindy Munford on September 28, 2008 at 9:23 AM
Barney Frank, Dodd, Obama, Raines, Gorelick, and Johnson should be in jail….and Reid and Pelosi should be on the street.
Let’s Roll!
ex-Democrat on September 28, 2008 at 9:23 AM
So I heard. If true, they simply substituted turkey bacon for pork bacon. It’s still a Baconater.
ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 9:23 AM
Lock and Load, Manly!
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:24 AM
Dissolution? Perhaps.
There’s no doubt that some states are going to start realizing that the Federal government is not an entity they want to be associated with. I thought it would take granting amnesty and citizenship to people who hate America for this to happen, but the fact that our federal government is running itself so quickly into insolvency could be the trigger.
progressoverpeace on September 28, 2008 at 9:24 AM
THATS THE SPIRIT DAMN IT!
Do not let these a/holes off the hook! Do not buy into the propaganda and we must demand accountability!
We can not be taxed into prosperity! Let the failed fail.
Benjamin9 on September 28, 2008 at 9:24 AM
Oh my God! I think I’m becomming a “PaulNut”! Listening to Fox News Sunday is painful. Kerry has Obama’s line down pat… “as he always said”. And Lindsay Graham is so very, very lame.
CC
CapedConservative on September 28, 2008 at 9:25 AM
Trying to fix something without understanding the Democrats who broke it is silly.
tarpon on September 28, 2008 at 9:26 AM
So, do you think with all this financial mess crashing down on us, that people are still going to feel as charitable about paying for illegal aliens food, housing, healthcare…etc…
It’s time to launch a second front. Call your reps and tell them we are poor. We can no longer pay for Mexico’s, South America’s, etc welfare cases and criminals. Kick them out, NOW!
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:27 AM
I wonder how long it will be before people in western Sydney are going to lose their houses in large numbers?
Sydney has by far the greatest exposure to Wall Street and the US banking system than any other Australian city. Most of Australia will be spared the immediate impact fortunately but the effects will be felt nationwide eventually.
Crux Australis on September 28, 2008 at 9:28 AM
Why should we jump ship? Let’s just march on DC and take the dems and rinos and put them on ice while they are investigated. Then put the bastards on trial.
thekingtut on September 28, 2008 at 9:28 AM
I read an interesting article yesterday… they appear to be operating on a new theory that the supply of money is infinite… since it’s backed by the “full faith and credit”, the government can print as much as they want. They actually believe that! You must. Otherwise, how can you toss a cool trillion dollars into an economy where the total of M2 (used to monitor and estimate inflation) is a little over 7 trillion.
CC
CapedConservative on September 28, 2008 at 9:28 AM
Pelosi and Reid = Disgraceful Liars
marklmail on September 28, 2008 at 9:29 AM
As a recent graduate of the Allahpundit Institute of Advanced Pessimistic Analysis, I have developed an immunity to it. Our motto is “Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.”
ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 9:30 AM
Check out the pinhead on MSNBC, if you can stomach it. Calling this the BUSH BAILOUT! So, it begins.
Brad Sherman, D-CA.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:31 AM
Unfortunately, the economic/financial debacle makes it more likely that a bailout on illegals (amnesty and citizenship for them) will pass, since taking care of that problem properly (by kicking the illegals out) will hit the economy. Remember, the reasons given for the original amnesty was that we couldn’t afford (economically and “morally”) to get rid of the illegals. It will be just another bailout, and they’ll argue that our economy needs it.
As to withholding services from the illegals, I wouldn’t hold my breath. Our government would rather see American citizens on the street than illegals.
Very, very sad stuff.
progressoverpeace on September 28, 2008 at 9:32 AM
Yup. If things proceed on the present course, it won’t be long before several of the contiguous red states form a 2nd Continental Congress and begin drafting a resolution calling for independence from the United States.
ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM
I’m still angry that the Govt is renegotiating principal as well as interest on these loans. As the rest of us lose equity, some of the clowns who caused this (buy house no down, cash out some quick equity, walk away) now get a second bite at the apple with a painless “offer they can’t refuse”? Sure – I realize that some of my equity is “artificial”, but try telling that to my tax assessor in a blue city.
rhodeymark on September 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM
And yours truly predicted it.
ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 9:34 AM
I thought attending the Rush Institute every day would give me immunity. Must enroll now. The thing is, does Chicken really believe we would vote for Obama? I was just stating that I wish we had a candidate we could TRULY believe would not sell us out for his friends across the aisle. The past is a great prediction of the future.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:34 AM
It is the Bush bailout. He’s the one who presented it to congress. The blame for the mess should sit squarely on the dems. But it wont. Bush will take in the ass. (and the taxpayers too)
csdeven on September 28, 2008 at 9:35 AM
Unfortunately, you are probably right. But, the cost of these leaches is unbearable. Maybe we don’t need a McDonalds on every corner…..let them close. If they hire illegal aliens, they deserve to fail.
I can’t order a hamburger in El Paso, Texas without speaking Spanish.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:36 AM
Indeed it is. And if history has anything to say on this, we are headed for a fall eventually.
ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 9:37 AM
And listening to me speak Spanish is FUNNY..
El MOO, por favor.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:37 AM
Seems to be a news blackout – imposed by ??? Where are the House Republicans this morning?
huckleberryfriend on September 28, 2008 at 9:38 AM
Will ACORN still be getting its 140 BILLION to assist in giving ILLEGAL Aliens the vote?
This mess is way over hyped, and republicans should Just Say No.
DannoJyd on September 28, 2008 at 9:40 AM
hamburguesa
Learn it. Live it.
CC
CapedConservative on September 28, 2008 at 9:41 AM
Seems to be a news blackout – imposed by ??? Where are the House Republicans this morning?
huckleberryfriend on September 28, 2008 at 9:38 AM
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:41 AM
Yes, it’s quite amazing, and so scary I don’t even have words for it. It all hinges on the fact that they don’t understand that the “faith” part of that equation is not something in the government’s control. Whistling past the graveyard …
There is hope, but it will take the most ingenious NEW ideas about finance and monetary systems in the history of the world; something that no one in the world has even had an inkling of, yet. Something like the development of nuclear technology in the early 20th century that changed the whole world. Where are Einstein, Von Neumann, Szilard, etc. when we really need them?
progressoverpeace on September 28, 2008 at 9:42 AM
Looks to be OUT, but don’t put anything past the dems. They will sneak it in somehow, I’m sure.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:42 AM
I can’t order a hamburger in El Paso, Texas without speaking Spanish.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:36 AM
I’d recommend Big Bun Burger downtown or the Charcoaler near Mesa and Sunland.
TexasJew on September 28, 2008 at 9:42 AM
Well, this was Barney,Dodd,Bill Clinton scam of free
houses through the cover of “Buying Liberal Votes”,
and Janet Rino was the muscle to threaten,intimidate
and enforce any financial company who dare not lend
to those who were minorities!
Janet Rino,would haul off any financial company to court
and slap racist,and denying minority rights charges to
them,so,————————under Janets blackmail,
those finance company’s qiuckly danced to that tune!
Now,what company on this planet is going to cough up
money,with no job,no income,no collateral,no property!
This might explain,why the Monica years of Bill,every
Liberal was willing to jump off a cliff,then go against
him!
If this was Republicans,they would be hounded,they would
be demanded resignations,investigations,supeona’s,calling
for FBI investigations!
CNN,and the whole Liberal MSM would be running this,with
talking heads 24/7,accusing the Republicans of ruining
America,and yes the ruining the “children future”crap!
Okay,maybe Team McCain/Palin might not want to run an ad,
understandable,its an election!
Cruise the sites HuffPuff,and Kos,—————-and ya,
just look where the lock stepped Liberal robots are finger
pointing, its Wall street,and all those Republicans that
they are attempting to connect,which is b#llshit!
We all know the truth,and time after time,Republicans have
been trying to get oversight,but oh no,the Liberals got
there way!
Talk about sheer AUDACITY of the DNC!
So,isn’t their any group out there that can get the truth,
a real simple tv ad,as to how,who,what and where this
financial debauchery originated from!
I’ve watched the American elections before,and every time
Republicans take the high road,they get Royal Screwed!
This has to be a line in the sand,I’ve seen it before,and
the problem always is,Republicans sit back,and don’t defend the truth!!
Somehow,someway,the Liberal MSM has to be bypassed for the
good of AMERICA,and this has to be addressed in someway!
If not,the LIBERAL MSM ARE GOING TO SPIN ON BEHALF OF THE
LIBERAL PARTY AND BLAME THE REPUBLIANS WHO HAVE CLEAN HANDS ON THIS!——————————————–:)
canopfor on September 28, 2008 at 9:44 AM
Thanks, I love Sunland Park…except all the border jumpers…they are SO rude and can’t drive for sh*t.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:45 AM
After the breakup of the U.S. you can expect that AZ, NM and most of southern California will more or less revert back to Mexico.
Northern CA, WA and OR will remain as non-contiguous parts of the Old U.S., which will consist of th entire northeast down to MD in addition to MI, MN, IL, WI and, possibly, IA. Florida may very well split in two, with the portion of the state south of Ocala remaining with the O.U.S. and the rest seceding to join the New U.S., which will be comprised of the old conferderacy plus all of the Plains states, including NV and CO.
Texas will likely be the anchor state of the new republic. HI will remain with the O.U.S and AK will either proclaim its own independence or join the red state secession.
Then again, I could be wrong. Whatever happens, be comforted that it will be awful.
ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 9:45 AM
I would think that anybody with any money in the market will take advantage of a market that may rally or may hold even next week to SELL SELL SELL and put their money somewhere else. I have a good friend that sold a resonably substantial portfolio over a week ago and put it in t-bills… he’s staying out for a minimum of several months to be sure this is over. He said he may get back in when he sees 7000 or so. As for me, the market has always been voodoo and a black hole that consumes money every time I try.
CC
CapedConservative on September 28, 2008 at 9:46 AM
Thats what I am saying … we don’t jump ship, we through dc overboard!
Benjamin9 on September 28, 2008 at 9:46 AM
That is a pretty reasonable look into the future, I would say. And one of the most important parts of any new Constitution would be that those who don’t pay taxes don’t get to vote.
progressoverpeace on September 28, 2008 at 9:49 AM
If not,the LIBERAL MSM ARE GOING TO SPIN ON BEHALF OF THE
LIBERAL PARTY AND BLAME THE REPUBLIANS WHO HAVE CLEAN HANDS ON THIS!——————————————–:)
canopfor on September 28, 2008 at 9:44 AM
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:49 AM
Texas will never FALL…they may have illegals, but they are damn mad about it. Lots of guns, lots of ammo, and lots of cojones.
They will fight to the end…REMEMBER THE ALAMO.
-Texan who was transplanted to the fifth ring of hell, aka New Mexico.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:50 AM
Thanks, I love Sunland Park…except all the border jumpers…they are SO rude and can’t drive for sh*t.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:45 AM
I assume you’re talking about the awful New Mexico drivers – those damn border jumpers! (I live in Texas, about 100 yards from Sunland Park, NM and a quarter mile from Juarez).
I find that the NM pochos are far worse drivers than the Chihuahuenses.
Driving around Juarez is a joy compared to NM (and the main roads are better!).
TexasJew on September 28, 2008 at 9:55 AM
No argument here, even though I feel like I should be offended. NM is the fifth ring of hell. I hate it here. Bloated Bill and his magic wand to help illegal aliens.
I think, like in Mexico, never been to Juarez and I like my body without bullet holes, so I never will go, in NM, signs and traffic lights are just a suggestion.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 9:57 AM
I ain’t reading 657 posts to see what is going on this morning. I just want to say, what the devil is Nancy’s problem ? She has the votes to do whatever she wants. If she can’t do the deal because a few Donks desert her then it is HER fault, not the GOP.
One day I expect that hard shell face of hers to crack open and there will be some green beast with slop dripping out of its mouth.
JonRoss on September 28, 2008 at 10:03 AM
Check out Fox…
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 10:04 AM
If you believe the Karl Marx comment that people being able to vote themselves part of the pie will ultimately result in socialism (and it appears to be happening in each passing year), then the no taxes paid, no vote approach appears to be the only thing that can stop it. If that happened, there would be… what… maybe 2-3 blue states at most.
Guns, ammo! Take DC hostage and put them on trial! That’s all mental masturbation and will never happen. But, an effective political strategy does need to come about and in fairly short order. Some ownership of mass media outlets would be a good place to start. That ownership needs to be by a group of conservative types… not a Murdoch type that will play both sides of the fence. Form an organization for this purpose… a holding company. Do not trade on any exchange. Sell ownership privately to conservatives. Buy targeted outlets. Preach conservatism.
There I go with my own mental masturbation…. sorry.
CC
CapedConservative on September 28, 2008 at 10:04 AM
So… it’s not really insurance. We are buying the assets, thus cancelling all the credit default swaps in danger of being triggered. Right where it started… a huge bailout of all those unnamed organizations holding that paper.
Sellout.
CC
CapedConservative on September 28, 2008 at 10:06 AM
You know, I’m watching Fox and I can’t believe we let this tool, Senator Gregg negotiate the deal for the conservative repubs. He seems to be very “soft”, but I may be wrong. Set me straight if I am.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 10:07 AM
Perhaps not even that, as there would be no income tax. The current U.S. constitution is a nearly perfect set of instructions for a nearly perfect system of goernment. One or two tweaks here and there based on 200 years of experience and we’ll be fine. The trick is to keep the federal government small and limited in power.
Were I a delegate to the Second Continental Congress I would bring with me only a few things: a copy of the Constitution, a copy of the Declaration of Independence, a copy of the Federalist Papers and a copy of de Tocqueville’s Democracy in America.
ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 10:08 AM
What about ACORN? Anybody hear anything yet? I’ve been on FOX since 6:00am Eastern and haven’t heard a word.
IrishEi on September 28, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Geez that hurt! They used no lubricant and, even though I was watching, I didn’t see if they used a condom.
CC
CapedConservative on September 28, 2008 at 10:08 AM
He’s just scared sh*tless.
progressoverpeace on September 28, 2008 at 10:08 AM
Supposedly, they’re out, Irish. But, I still feel like I need a shower to wash off the slime after hearing about this bailout from Senator Gregg.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Gak. Watching Fox News Sunday – had to turn it off after John Kerry tried to make it seem it was Obama and the democrat’s idea to make the government insure the loans, not buy them, and charge a fee if the money wasn’t paid back in 5 years. After that, he claimed that this was the sort of thing it was going to be until ‘politics entered the debate’ i.e. until republicans added politics to the wonderful democrats working on behalf of the people and for the people – not themselves.
I really couldn’t stomach watching John Kerry lie any more. And to think, he could have been president last time, and kicked W to the curb.
wise_man on September 28, 2008 at 10:10 AM
The Wall Street Journal has more information, including about ACORN.
It seems that ACORN will be made a cabinet-level position.
Bishop on September 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM
I din’t even get a kiss, CC.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 10:11 AM
When Democrats start acting as though there really is a crisis, I won’t believe there’s one.
drjohn on September 28, 2008 at 10:13 AM
They’re currently trying to float the insane idea that Obama came up with the idea all by himself, as if that jabbering clown could come up with any idea at all.
In the end, this will be good for a laugh (and a cry).
Let’s hear from Cantor and the real Republicans, instead of the RINO hacks.
When this whole thing fails (and it will, sure as G-d made little green apples), then watch the scumbags run for the exit.
TexasJew on September 28, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Or a courtesy reach around.
Sorry. Much like the Feds, I saw an opening and took advantage. :-)
ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 10:15 AM
I’m not sure how doable that would be, but if there were no income taxes then the vote would have to hinge on property ownership, with a certain amount of equity in it. Whatever the case, universal sufferage is a recipe for disaster.
That is the foundation that we have gotten so far away from. I’m surprised the leftists haven’t tried to scrub the world’s memory of the existence of those documents, yet. They figure it’s easier to just ignore them, so far. I keep coming back to the amazing poll that only 19% of BHO supporters think that SCOTUS decisions should be based on the Constitution.
progressoverpeace on September 28, 2008 at 10:15 AM
Well, thank God for small favors, I guess.
Socialism, open borders, voter fraud, corruption, terrorism, creeping Sharia, nuclear threats, media collusion…the perfect storm indeed.
IrishEi on September 28, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Nope, this gang is NOT that stupid. They’re just continuing the Cloward-Pavin Strategy of Manufactured Crisis set firmly in motion by the 1995 revision of the CRA (as pushed by ACORN).
The “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.
The Strategy was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. Cloward and Piven were inspired by radical organizer [mentor to Hillary and Barak] Saul Alinsky. From an excellent article: — Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis, by James Simpson, in The American Thinker
petefrt on September 28, 2008 at 10:18 AM
LMAO.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Check out Fox again…they’re about to discuss Acorn and fraud in CA, I mean voting fraud….not Ahnold.
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 10:19 AM
They’re currently trying to float the insane idea that
Heh…I predicted it – all of it. Here’s more: the meme will take hold coutesy of the Drive-By media, which will pound it into the heads of the electorate from now until election day. When they go into the boot on Nov 4, the Idjit voters will be softly chanting the meme they learned: Democrats good, Republicans bad.
You won’t. Wouldn’t be bi-partisan, don’tcha know.
Nah. The scumbags will be hailed as heroes. Those who tried to stop this madness will be vilified as traitors.
Welcome to the Fall of the Republic. Make yourself at home. May I take your hat and coat?
ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 10:20 AM
I heard that too. From Kerry. I wouldn’t be surprised if all the democrats will be out today and for the next weeks spinning this tale to the media – and doing it so often that they want this slime of a lie to stick on the wall by repeatedly throwing it up there again and again
wise_man on September 28, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Ugh…my eyes…my eyes…STFU GORE!
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 10:21 AM
If we didn’t give illegal aliens drivers licenses in NM, thanks to Bloated Bill, we wouldn’t have this problem. When you apply for driver’s licenses, you are automatically registered to vote…..
HornetSting on September 28, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Yes and no. The more decentralized the government, the less negatively impactful universal sufferage becomes. A weak federal government would, of necessity, compel the states to shoulder much of the burden of governance. They, in turn, would spread that burden to counties and communities where it belongs. On that level, the people – as in We the People – truly have control, because they can see firsthand the impact of their legislative policies.
Hence the need for a Second Continental Congress. Oh, and there is one other thing I’d bring: the DVDs for the HBO series on John Adams, so the delegats would have something other than football to watch between sessions.
ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 10:27 AM
You are absolutely right, and progressoverpeace is out of ideas as badly as he[?] is out of capital letters. I’ll have to see if he[?] is for adding this barely needed burden on an already out of control budget.
From the tiny bit of info leaking out it would appear that this debacle is due to people having gotten mortages without the resources to pay for the mortgages they agreed to that is creating a huge segment of our current problem.
Never discussed are simple solutions to that, and I can already think of one with a double edged blade. Take those properties and use those for either wind or solar power generating farms. I would bet my tax refund that many of those unpaid-for properties are adjoining, and that would allow for decent sized power production facilities.
Who knows? Perhaps a few of these tracts would be large enough to place a nuclear power plant on them.
How is that for tackling 2 problems with 1 well placed stroke?
DannoJyd on September 28, 2008 at 10:29 AM
I wonder if somebody could corelate,in Democratic Districts,
oh I dunno,like say in Obama’s Organizing thuggery area,
how many people didn’t have homes and then,after Janet
put the cold chill against the lending companys,shazam a
dramatic increase in homes to minorities!:)
Say like,how many homes were for sale,Bill comes into office
and then in some miricle,homes were being bought up left,
right and center!!:)
canopfor on September 28, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Very true, but universal sufferage will inevitably lead to the progressive centralization and growth of the Federal entity, at least that’s how I see it.
Yes, but I think that we would just get the same dynamics for each state government as we have for our federal government, now. Unrestricted growth of the government guided by the poorest and most ill-informed of the populace, who will always make up a large part of the population.
Absolutely.
progressoverpeace on September 28, 2008 at 10:34 AM
He. And … huh?
progressoverpeace on September 28, 2008 at 10:36 AM
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