Video: Obama shamelessly contradicts himself about troops dying in vain

The joke here, of course…is that the whole point of the left’s moral (as opposed to political) opposition to the war is that they think soldiers are dying needlessly.

…the Left has morals?

The whole thrust of Leftist opposition to this or any other war engaged in by the US since the Comintern financed red heyday of the 1930′s is that the US is fighting a war not specifically supported by THEM.

Should the US continue to defend itself willy-nilly, the Left has resolved to continue to fuss, pout, march and then write a mess of pretty poignant screenplays and performance art pieces to register their disapproval.

Remember that it was Katha Pollit who forbade her daugther from hanging a US flag in her bedroom window because, true to her “morals”, the US was a nasty place…all that racism, social injustice, sexism, and unfashionable coffee, don’cha know….

The Left cares as much about soldiers, living or dying, as Imelda Marcos cared about her shoes…there were a lot of ‘em, and each was useful in its turn, but ultimately they were just shoes….

Puritan1648 on September 27, 2008 at 4:04 PM

Our troops did die in vain, IMHO. There were no WMDs nor any ties to 9/11.

Our troops were lied to and misused.

philnewkirk

…trying to win a popularity contest, phil?

“No WMDs” resonates about as well as does “win back the Danzig corridor”. No ties to 9/11? $20k to each homicide bomber’s family…Abu Nidal being hooched-up in Baghdad…gazillions going in bribes to France and Russia and the chablis socialists of Western Europe…the gazillions sealed into boxes and then bricked up into walls, all the while Lefty morons were talking about a million kids dying as a result of the UN sanctions…Sadam Freaking Hussein, after all…he’s reason enough.

You’re really going to have to get some new material. Maybe you can start railing against Kofi Annan and his family being a cluster of bought-out enablers of terrorism and genocide. Maybe you can begin to be miffed at Achmedalphabet and the Laughing Mullahs tooling up for the nuclear appearance of the twelfth imam. Maybe you could grow an attitude about poisonous Chinese manufactures…and even more poisonous Chinese maneuvers.

You’re gonna have to do something. Your current line is getting a bit threadbare.

It’s easy to spit venom at your own country. You don’t even have to leave home.

Puritan1648 on September 27, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Questioning what is now a majority of patriotic, America-loving Americans is sooo 2003.

philnewkirk on September 27, 2008 at 4:23 PM

…well as a 21st Century citizen with a 17th Century moral compass, I must say that I have absolutely no f**king idea what the hell you just said, except that I’m sure that it’s snarky and looked clever on your monitor before you hit “Submit Comment”.

Let me just say that obscure comebacks do not relieve you of the responsibility of finding new material…so, go relieve yourself….

Puritan1648 on September 27, 2008 at 4:28 PM

What I mean is that it was fashionable to question the patriotism of anti-war Christians in 2003.

philnewkirk

…I don’t know anything — and I do mean ANYTHING — about “fashionable”…I operate on the “looks like a duck/walks like a duck” principle…

…so, if it looks unpatriotic — i.e., if it lends aid and comfort to the enemy, weakens our national resolve when we’ve got our sons and daughters in the path of unsympathetic men with pointy bullets, or if it trashes our national ideals — and if it walks unpatriotic (-ly), it might just be unpatriotic.

I frankly don’t care if the person is Christian or not…a lot of queer things happen in the name of some folks claiming that distinction…look at Pflegger, Jerry Wright, the UCC as a whole, the Episcopal Church USA, just about everything out of the mouth of the current Archbishop of Canterbury, most of the mainline churches (PCUSA, Methodists, any member of the National Council of Churches), and the morons who are/will be hosting that tete-a-tete with Mahmoud Ahmedalphabet.

I’ll bet that Christ himself wonders where he is amid all their Leftist politicking….

Puritan1648 on September 27, 2008 at 5:36 PM

Regardless of your opinion on what to do once war has been started, you do think it is wrong to call those who call the war evil “unpatriotic,” right.

philnewkirk

…yes, when, as happened so often during Vietnam (and Grenada and Panama and Lebanon and Somalia and the Balkans and the first Gulf War), and as happened with nauseating frequency today, it doesn’t just stop with observing that war is uncool.

More often than not, it first springs from a well of distrust and hatred of what the country stands for, and a fairly large hatred of those who stand by it, and ends up with the commander-in-chief having to spend 7 years fighting two wars with one hand tied behind his back…politically speaking, of course….

…so…

* no wiretapping of foreign fighters in foreign countries

* no harsh interrogations, no matter how effective at stopping friendly casualties

* no calling the enemy “islamofascists”

* no calling them the enemy, if you can avoid it (call them “fighters”)

* point out every mistake as soon as you can, be it of an individual grunt or a general or (especially) of a cabinet secretary

* accuse forces on the ground of doing unspeakable things without the slightest shred of proof

* …in short, give aid and comfort to the enemy….

…I’m not lumping every opponent of the current round of wars in with the opponents of Vietnam, etc., of with Murtha, Sheehan and the like…I’m just saying they often lump themselves together…with nauseating frequency….

…I’m not saying that opposition to war is unpatriotic…I’m just saying that opposition to this war has proven itself to spring from unpatriotic roots and to manifest itself in unpatriotic ways…to the benefit of the enemy.

Questions?

Puritan1648 on September 27, 2008 at 6:16 PM