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House GOP rejects latest bailout proposal; Update: Pelosi wants deal in principle by tonight

posted at 4:09 pm on September 27, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Too many ornaments on the left’s Christmas tree, with the star on top being Chris Dodd’s preposterous proposal to make sure ACORN gets a cut of the income from each distressed asset sold at a profit even if distressed assets in the aggregate are sold at a loss. They’ve got a little more than 24 hours to pass a bill before the markets in Asia open Monday; Roy Blunt thinks if they don’t have it done by then, there won’t be a deal until late next week. Any problem with that? Read Bill Kristol’s latest at the Standard and have a paper bag handy, as you’ll need it to breathe. Publicly, at least, Fortis denies it’s at risk of going under and claims it has liquidity to spare. Kristol claims two sources who say otherwise and foresees bank runs in the U.S. from the shockwave if it happens — bailout or no bailout. (Roughly half of all Belgian households have accounts with Fortis, according to Reuters.)

We’ve reached the point where even the Journal is sufficiently worried to beg for relief:

No one tried harder than we did to avoid arriving at this pass, but now that we’re here our vote is that this government intervention is justified to defend the system…

The libertarian blogs are full of tut-tutting that the economy has held up surprisingly well, and for a year we’ve been arguing the same thing. But there’s no guarantee this will continue, especially as unemployment climbs and as evidence grows that banking distress is squeezing credit to small and big business alike. Credit spreads over Treasurys are back at agonizing levels, as investors and lenders flee from even plain vanilla risks.

Nobel economics laureate Gary Becker is no alarmist, but this week he wrote on his blog, “I have reluctantly concluded that substantial intervention was justified to avoid a major short-term collapse of the financial system that could push the world economy in a major depression.” Anyone who thinks that capitalism will fare better after a crash should recall that the 1930s didn’t end politically until 1980…

The Paulson idea also seems better than the “insurance” plan for bank assets that House Republicans are now proposing. That idea would still put taxpayers at risk if the assets fall in value, but with little potential upside. Meanwhile, the assets would remain on bank books, making it that much harder for banks to raise private capital and resume normal lending.

The House GOP intervention may still be fortuitous if it focuses on killing the many Democratic ideas that are making the Paulson plan worse.

Indeed, which raises the question of why Dodd et al. are demanding handouts to ACORN when there’s a developing national emergency to deal with. As I’m writing this, Bloomberg is hitting the wires with a report that progress has been made on a deal and that Reid and McConnell are optimistic it’ll be struck tomorrow, with Bob Corker quoted as saying House GOP resistance is “thawing.” Let’s hope. If you follow only one link here, make it this AP history of recent government bailouts in Sweden and Japan explaining why even well-managed recoveries mean multiyear downturns. We’re in for a bad stretch, even if it’s not — knock wood — a catastrophic one.

Update: I’m not much in the mood for blame right now but people are sending this around and it’s as good a post as any to update with. Barney Frank has a star turn, as usual.

Update: Pelosi wants something to look at by tonight. I honestly wonder what the public reaction’s going to be if they stay deadlocked, the market drops 2,000 points on Monday, and people start running on banks. Confidence in government will be even lower than confidence in the markets, which means political destabilization. But what will that look like?

Update: Don’t look now but there’s panic brewing in Britain as well, with a major bank in danger of being nationalized on Monday.


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We’re in for a bad stretch, even if it’s not — knock wood — a catastrophic one.

Well, we’ll worry about next year when it comes. Right now, we want to avoid a collapse of the market.

If we do, it’ll be like Japan after their huge real estate bubble burst. That is, slow growth, stagnant unemployment rates. Groundhog Day day after day.

Right now, I’ll take that over the alternative.

I’m confident we’ll make it.

Sorta.

SteveMG on September 27, 2008 at 4:14 PM

Whatever Boehner wants to do, I’m with.

vinman on September 27, 2008 at 4:15 PM

“So as not to impede their affordable housing mission” – Rep. Maxine Waters

I love how we all end up suffering for a libtards “mission”.

SkinnerVic on September 27, 2008 at 4:15 PM

when there’s a developing national emergency to deal with

Much like global warming; I’ll believe there is an emergency when those who tell me it’s an emergency start acting like there’s an emergency.

lorien1973 on September 27, 2008 at 4:17 PM

If Kristol is right, then I think the bailout is necessary.

philnewkirk on September 27, 2008 at 4:18 PM

Where’s Bush on this? He’s still President, after all.

Letting the Democrats handing our money over to leftists and holding our economy hostage to do so instead of passing a clean bill requires leadership.
And why not get up front and tell that POS Paulson that if he intentionally leaked the Republican position to Obama via his Goldman Sachs buddies for political gain, then he’s going to Federal prison. And announce it publicly.

TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:19 PM

Normal long term socialist actions. Remember their stratigic goal, then consider tactics.

allrsn on September 27, 2008 at 4:19 PM

… with the star on top being Chris Dodd’s preposterous proposal to make sure ACORN gets a cut of the income from each distressed asset sold at a profit even if distressed assets in the aggregate are sold at a loss.

You ain’t seen nuttin’ yet. Just wait ’til they get a bigger majority in Congress and The Zero in the White House.

Pray … and then vote!

Tony737 on September 27, 2008 at 4:20 PM

Make the ACORN issue the hill to die on. Let’s see if Dodd really wants responsibility for failure.

a capella on September 27, 2008 at 4:20 PM

I’m beginning to think that the actual crisis driving this thing is not the impending collapse of banks, but rather the impending collapse of community organizers.

cthulhu on September 27, 2008 at 4:21 PM

But there’s no guarantee this will continue,

There. Never. Is.

Weight of Glory on September 27, 2008 at 4:21 PM

Oh great…read Kristol’s article…he says the next big victim in the US will be Wachovia…my bank…where, of course, I put a big chunk of my savings into a CD with them about 4 months ago…brb…I’ve gotta go buy some beer now…

AUINSC on September 27, 2008 at 4:22 PM

TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:19 PM

Right now, dubya is so scared he’s dribbling pee. He’s trying to protect his legacy.

a capella on September 27, 2008 at 4:23 PM

Confidence in government will be even lower than confidence in the markets, which means political destabilization. But what will that look like?

Only 95% of them will be re-elected instead of 98% ?

lorien1973 on September 27, 2008 at 4:24 PM

You ain’t seen nuttin’ yet. Just wait ’til they get a bigger majority in Congress and The Zero in the White House.

Pray … and then vote!

Tony737 on September 27, 2008 at 4:20 PM

Exactly.

In addition they M U S T win this election, anything goes, no corruption will be overlooked.

allrsn on September 27, 2008 at 4:24 PM

Cavuto is saying that the Dems want a tax HIKE!!! on Security Firms . . . AHHHHH

Govgirl on September 27, 2008 at 4:24 PM

Problem with hoping that Nancy Pelosi will blink is that that eyelift of hers makes it pretty nigh impossible to blink.

Wethal on September 27, 2008 at 4:25 PM

Make the ACORN issue the hill to die on. Let’s see if Dodd really wants responsibility for failure.

a capella on September 27, 2008 at 4:20 PM

I aqree. If Obama becomes President, this will just be a drop in the bucket.

Let the House Republicans hang tough. Our entire future is at stake. if we go socialist, it won’t matter anyway, since our dollar will tank and gas will be $12/gallon.

TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:25 PM

Paulson Update [Rich Lowry]

Quick e-mail from friend following negotiations quickly (excuse typos):

So it looks like a deal is shaping up

Treasury purchases plus mbs insurance (cantor)

Strong oversight/taxpayer protection

Limits on executive comp

No liberal add-ons (acorn, bankruptcy judges, proxy access)

Govt equity stake likely to be scaled back or dropped. No staff-level enthusiam for it.

Limit on amount of first tranche of money (less than $700 billion)

This deal gets 100 house gop votes

09/27 02:15 PM

This was NRO Corner a few hours ago. Wonder if Politico is spinning for Dems to tilt negotiaitions.

Wethal on September 27, 2008 at 4:28 PM

Dodd’s preposterous proposal to make sure ACORN gets a cut of the income from each distressed asset sold at a profit even if distressed assets in the aggregate are sold at a loss

This should absolutely not be in any bail-out plan. NO EARMARKS. Congress damn well better learn to pass pure legislature.

Guardian on September 27, 2008 at 4:28 PM

Make the ACORN issue the hill to die on. Let’s see if Dodd really wants responsibility for failure.

TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:25 PM

Holding the world economy hostage just so the GOP can try to pin blame on one organization would be the political and economic suicide.

philnewkirk on September 27, 2008 at 4:28 PM

Heads need to roll, regardless of the nature of the bailout. Gorelick, Raines, Waters, Frank, et al need to spend time in “Federal Pound Them in the @ss” prison, as they call it in “Office Space.”

On second thought, Barney would probably enjoy that.

Disturb the Universe on September 27, 2008 at 4:29 PM

Right now, dubya is so scared he’s dribbling pee. He’s trying to protect his legacy.

a capella on September 27, 2008 at 4:23 PM

This disaster IS his legacy. He didn’t cause it, and he tried somewhat to stop it, but he didn’t have the balls to really take on the Dims and a couple of RINO Republicans.

People forgot how well his dad did in 1991 in the first war, and only focus on that minor 1992 correction in the stock market – a joke, compared to this..

TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:29 PM

philnewkirk on September 27, 2008 at 4:28 PM

You’ve been outed, Phil. Stop astroturfing.

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:29 PM

Bill Kristol is an idiot as it is becoming apparent that efforts of ACORN have helped create this crisis, and I’m finding it hard to believe that any real crisis exists as some of the companies that got stuck with the Government Forced mortgages are being purchased.

Republicans need to get off their fat arses and make public the huge stunt the democrats are pulling, as well as remind taxpayers that it is their money that democrats are looking to waste again.

DannoJyd on September 27, 2008 at 4:30 PM

Update: Pelosi wants something to look at by tonight.

Then she should just ram it through the way it is. She’s got the votes without the pubbies, but wants to avoid accountability.

a capella on September 27, 2008 at 4:30 PM

Shays: “How many people in this room are on the payroll of Fannie Mae?”

DAAAAAAAMN!

sOMEBODY DID A RELLY GOOD JOB WITH THIS, mAC NEEDS TO MAKE AN AD OUT OF IT.

OOOOPS! CAPS button, sorry.

Tony737 on September 27, 2008 at 4:30 PM

Name them and shame them.

They are larding it up so bad and putting it right back in to the government programs that blew us up.

I know we need to get a Bill done but this is unbelievable.

danking70 on September 27, 2008 at 4:30 PM

Our entire future is at stake. if we go socialist, it won’t matter anyway, since our dollar will tank and gas will be $12/gallon. – TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:25 PM

If we go socialist there will be secession and civil war.

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:31 PM

I have to say I am with Instapundit on this, it’s hard to realize a crisis when the Democrats are cramming all myriad of graft in this sucker.

I’m STUNNED that of all people working on is Dodd for one (he should be hiding under a rock) and that he would even begin to give money to ACORN – an organization rife with fraud and embezzlement.

And yet the Democrats do this and don’t have the balls to pass it.

It’s mind blowing.

Topsecretk9 on September 27, 2008 at 4:31 PM

My inner conspiracy theorist is thinking that this financial meltdown was deliberately orchestrated to foist an increasingly socialist system upon us.

Disturb the Universe on September 27, 2008 at 4:31 PM

Tony737 on September 27, 2008 at 4:30 PM

PIMF :-)

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:32 PM

putting it right back in to the government programs that blew us up.

Gawd, it’s insane.

Topsecretk9 on September 27, 2008 at 4:32 PM

Holding the world economy hostage just so the GOP can try to pin blame on one organization would be the political and economic suicide.

philnewkirk on September 27, 2008 at 4:28 PM

No, there’s principles here. And this bailout is nowhere near the end, believe me.
Stand tough, like we did on drilling. They’ll cave.
If this bill passes as is, this country will turn to absolute shit.
A clean bailout, or nothing.

TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:32 PM

I can’t imagine why all of those blacks would line up behind Raines.

Yes, I said it.

SouthernGent on September 27, 2008 at 4:32 PM

How much is ACORN about to be handed to facilitate their ILLEGAL Alien voter registration processes? 14 BILLION?

DannoJyd on September 27, 2008 at 4:32 PM

Holding the world economy hostage just so the GOP can try to pin blame on one organization would be the political and economic suicide.

philnewkirk on September 27, 2008 at 4:28 PM

Aaaaaaaaaand here comes the lib-bot, objecting to our objection that a criminal, socialist organization benefit from our nation’s crisis.

I could set my watch by this crap.

capitalist piglet on September 27, 2008 at 4:32 PM

With the almost for sure prospect of our economy tanking outright or at least getting thrown in recession,

WHY would anyone want to be POTUS for this next term?

Talk about masochism.

Sapwolf on September 27, 2008 at 4:33 PM

My inner conspiracy theorist is thinking that this financial meltdown was deliberately orchestrated to foist an increasingly socialist system upon us.

Distrub…kinda makes you wonder about Schummer’s malfeasance, releasing his letter about IndyMac eh?

Topsecretk9 on September 27, 2008 at 4:33 PM

Last I heard, McCain is in DC, with no public events (currently) scheduled – very unusual for the day after a debate. I wonder if the one thing politically that the Democrats fear most – other than their inability to forestall disaster despite having the Republican Administration on their side and majorities in both houses – is the spectacle of McCain riding to the rescue.

There will be a deal, possibly at the last moment, possibly at one or two minutes after the supposed last moment. As long as the atmospherics are properly managed, neither the Asian markets nor the US ones are going to tank too far. Traders aren’t foolish enough to sell in a panic if they expect the next headline to make fools of them. Don’t forget that more than a few (amateur) observers were expecting Friday to be Black.

I wonder how this whole thing would be going if we had a Republican President and Treasury Secretary?

CK MacLeod on September 27, 2008 at 4:33 PM

If we go socialist there will be secession and civil war.

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:31 PM

If there was a civil war it would be between the states on one side and Wall Street/DC on the other side.

philnewkirk on September 27, 2008 at 4:33 PM

I don’t know how much more clearly I can put this: If the ACORN provision, or anything even slightly similar to it, remains in the bill, it must not pass, no matter the level of the crisis. Period.

The Lone Platypus on September 27, 2008 at 4:34 PM

Right now, dubya is so scared he’s dribbling pee. He’s trying to protect his legacy.

a capella on September 27, 2008 at 4:23 PM

I think GWB genuinely cares about this country. I believe that.

capitalist piglet on September 27, 2008 at 4:34 PM

My inner conspiracy theorist is thinking that this financial meltdown was deliberately orchestrated to foist an increasingly socialist system upon us.

This level of incompetence could not have been spontaneous.

lorien1973 on September 27, 2008 at 4:35 PM

If there was a civil war it would be between the states on one side and Wall Street/DC on the other side. – philnewkirk on September 27, 2008 at 4:33 PM

In other words: red states vs blue states.

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:35 PM

These are the same people that say are entitlement funds of Medicare and Social Security are safe until 2040.

danking70 on September 27, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Topsecretk9 on September 27, 2008 at 4:33 PM

Thanks for the reminder. More proof for my hypothesis.

Disturb the Universe on September 27, 2008 at 4:35 PM

I have absolutely no problem with some of these banks going under. When you look at the ridiculous mortgages they were writing, of course they should go under. Wake me up when well run companies are in trouble.

pedestrian on September 27, 2008 at 4:36 PM

“Wethal on September 27, 2008 at 4:28 PM”

THAT proposal i have no trouble living with at all. why is that source sounding so different than the ones at the top of the post?!

Buckaroo on September 27, 2008 at 4:36 PM

I can’t imagine why all of those blacks would line up behind Raines.

Yes, I said it.

SouthernGent on September 27, 2008 at 4:32 PM

Good. It needs saying since the free loans mostly benefited minorities.

Anybody who benefited from this should leave the damn country to be replaced by a hard-working, high-saving, pro-education immigrant.

Sapwolf on September 27, 2008 at 4:36 PM

If we go socialist there will be secession and civil war.

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:31 PM

I seriously doubt secession – a ridiculous idea – but a degree of violence will certainly be expected. Watch what’s going on in Missouri if those Obama pimps start arresting common citizens for backing the NRA.

TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Ron Paul on FOX….

SouthernGent on September 27, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Oh please southerngent- you didn’t have to say it; We were already thinking it. This is awful. All of them need to go and now. I can’t believe Barney Fwank can sit up there in Congress and continue to lie. It’s like the little kid with chocolate all over his face, who’s swearing up and down he didn’t eat any. Pitiful, just pitiful.

anniekc on September 27, 2008 at 4:36 PM

The democrats just can not let go of the politics of this thing. They just can’t.

It makes me think they want an economic collapse, because they think they can use the situation to gain advantage.

I know the Marxist/Leninist think that way.

You folks are starting to scare me!

rockhauler on September 27, 2008 at 4:36 PM

This level of incompetence could not have been spontaneous. – lorien1973 on September 27, 2008 at 4:35 PM

It progressed steadily from the days of the Great Society in the Johnson administration, growing like the Golem of Hebrew myth – now so huge that no one can wipe off the magical letters from its forehead.

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Hold strong. Let’s not make a horrible situation worse with really bad legislation that wont help, but makes us feel like “well we did something.” There is a reason why all this is happening so fast, behind closed doors, over the weekend, with little or no details, and with the personalities involved. When we panic, we make really bad choices. And I say this, knowing that my bank will fail next week; I’d much rather take the hits of the free markets. I’m not saying no plan should be brought out, but when we are told there is only one way out, and it must be done now, or else we die, and that those who actually have the power and votes to enact it won’t, because they can’t get enough “R’s” next to the bill, and these are the same people who caused the problem, then I’m sorry, but I can’t go along with it.

Weight of Glory on September 27, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Can someone explain to me why it’s so vital for ACORN to get a cut of any profit? What’s so special about ACORN that they are pushing this so hard?

CookeyD on September 27, 2008 at 4:37 PM

I know the Marxist/Leninist think that way. You folks are starting to scare me! – rockhauler on September 27, 2008 at 4:36 PM

These are not times for the faint-hearted. It will get much worse.

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:37 PM

I think GWB genuinely cares about this country. I believe that.

capitalist piglet on September 27, 2008 at 4:34 PM

Well, time to step up to the damn plate, don’t you think?

TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:38 PM

I don’t care if I have to live in a teepee and eat my pets. No Bailout! The more pain Americans experience here – the more they’ll pay attention to who they elect in the future. Want to know who is the blame? Look in the mirror because it’s US that elected these fools. We’ve allowed them to siphon our money and redistribute it to illegal aliens and to farcical agencies like ACORN and this bailout won’t change that. Maybe a decade or two in the wilderness will teach us to pay attention to our freedoms in the future – and not elect idiots like Maxine Waters and Barney Frank. Nuff said … we deserve this … let’s take the medicine.

HondaV65 on September 27, 2008 at 4:38 PM

Japanemia for the US is not fated. The Japanese real estate bubble made our recent US housing bubble look reasonable. Remember when a few square feet in downtown Tokyo were priced the same as an acre of downtown Manhattan? When Japan was going to take over the world leading to novels by Michael Chrichton turned into movies with Sean Connery and Wesley Snipes? We still don’t have anything that compares to Japanese institutional corruption and socio-economic and political rigidity.

CK MacLeod on September 27, 2008 at 4:38 PM

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:35 PM

Civil War? Don’t you mean the War of Liberal Aggression?

Disturb the Universe on September 27, 2008 at 4:39 PM

TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:36 PM

Why do you say secession is ridiculous?

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:39 PM

“Sapwolf on September 27, 2008 at 4:33 PM”

a competent president would weather a recession [which, as i must yet again point out, we CAN'T BE IN until Q1 '09 at best since the 2nd qtr. had POSITIVE GROWTH!] before ‘09 ended …

/so yeah, mebbe duh1 should really think about withdrawing!
:-)

Buckaroo on September 27, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Finally Ron Paul saying it like it is. It’s all hype, and the long-term issue remains.

SouthernGent on September 27, 2008 at 4:40 PM

Civil War? Don’t you mean the War of Liberal Aggression? – Disturb the Universe on September 27, 2008 at 4:39 PM

That may very well be the case. Trouble is, most of the officers and higher functioning folks in the military are red state people.

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:40 PM

My God the Democrats are idiots.

One of the McCain Campaign’s big problems going into the last month before the election has been getting the MSM to talk about some of Obama’s sketchy past associations.

ACORN is a big one.

This giveaway in the bailout bill is just handing the issue to McCain on a silver platter.

Whether the deal goes through or not, there will be a bunch of talk early next week about just what the whole House GOP rebellion was all about.

And McCain spent ten minutes or so of the debate last night screaming about the gateway drug of earmarks and how Congress has become corrupted. He spoke passionately about good bills that become festooned with christmas tree ornaments.

The Bailout bill will be Exhibit A in the case against Washington’s Greed. And he will Name Names, and make them famous. Or Sarah Palin will. How many people will be watching her debate??

Democrats all the way down the slate will be hurt if the country spends some time looking at ACORN. And Obama will be devastated — he’s staked his “I care about you” hooey on being a Community Organizer, and working with ACORN.

If these reports of Obama’s legal career (at gatewaypundit) are at all accurate, he’s toast when this starts to come up.

Not only did he work with ACORN to expand the possibilities for voter fraud, he actually filed a suit against Citibank in 1994 to force them to increase their subprime mortgages.

You know, the subprime mortgages that just this weekend are seriously endangering Main Street’s bank accounts…

This should be an extremely awesome week.

ClintACK on September 27, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Much like global warming; I’ll believe there is an emergency when those who tell me it’s an emergency start acting like there’s an emergency.
lorien1973 on September 27, 2008 at 4:17 PM

While the media unashamedly promotes Dodd, who was supposed to be steering the regulatory ship in Congress, as the logical architect of the saving legislation.

Nichevo on September 27, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Can someone explain to me why it’s so vital for ACORN to get a cut of any profit? What’s so special about ACORN that they are pushing this so hard? – CookeyD on September 27, 2008 at 4:37 PM

They help create voters for the Democrat party.

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:41 PM

Can someone explain to me why it’s so vital for ACORN to get a cut of any profit? What’s so special about ACORN that they are pushing this so hard?

CookeyD on September 27, 2008 at 4:37 PM

Something tells me that question is rhetorical, but my impression is that they have promised to deliver the presidency to Obama and the Democrats (Obama’s campaign gave them $800,000, right, for their “efforts”) – this is what they get in return. Registration fraud is taking place as we speak. It’s what they do.

capitalist piglet on September 27, 2008 at 4:42 PM

This video is gold! The naked emperor videos are gold! I hope….no, I pray that these spread like the culture of corruption through the DEMOCRAT party!!!!

PURE GOLD!

OSUBuciz1 on September 27, 2008 at 4:42 PM

So…; “clean bill or no bill”

If Bush got up and simply said that, a couple of times, it would pass right now. Remember, his ratings are double that of the Dims in Congress.

If he doesn’t, and lets Paulson and Paulson’s Dim buddies lard it up with leftwing crap, I’m through with that dumb prick. And I’ve voted for him since he started running for governor down here.

TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:42 PM

now so huge that no one can wipe off the magical letters from its forehead.

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:36 PM

I say no, when the only solution to a government created problem is more government. They can screw themselves.

And these democrats have the nerve to go on TV and blame this on deregulation and wall street greed. This just shows the complete dishonesty that is going on.

Crash and Burn. But I don’t believe it’ll happen, neither does Cavuto or a lot of others. Take a step back and wait.

lorien1973 on September 27, 2008 at 4:43 PM

Can someone explain to me why it’s so vital for ACORN to get a cut of any profit? What’s so special about ACORN that they are pushing this so hard?

CookeyD

Is that a serious question?

If ACORN gets $100,000,000,000.00 of taxpayer money, no Democrat will ever lose an election in this country ever again.

ClintACK on September 27, 2008 at 4:43 PM

One of the McCain Campaign’s big problems going into the last month before the election has been getting the MSM to talk about some of Obama’s sketchy past associations.

What makes you think they’re going to talk about it now?

The Lone Platypus on September 27, 2008 at 4:43 PM

My God the rank-and-file Democrats are useful idiots. The leadership, on the other hand, are cynical, greedy and scheming – in a word, evil.

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:43 PM

The democrats have shown ZERO leadership on this. Not surprising. They want Republicans on board with a very, very bad bill so they can say it was a Bush plan the democrats had to go along with because Bush is evil. That’s the simple truth.

SouthernGent on September 27, 2008 at 4:43 PM

“TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:42 PM”

well, he’ll surely miss your vote in nov. ..

/eyeroll

Buckaroo on September 27, 2008 at 4:44 PM

THAT VIDEO IS OUTSTANDING.

Cardiganfox on September 27, 2008 at 4:45 PM

And I’ve voted for him since he started running for governor down here. – TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:42 PM

If Texas secedes, I’m moving there.

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:45 PM

I think GWB genuinely cares about this country. I believe that.

capitalist piglet on September 27, 2008 at 4:34 PM

Oh yeah, and I think he is a fine man, but he allowed this thing to get so far out of hand that now we are in a crisis mode and probably making concessions to the very people who caused it.. He had the bully pulpit and could have been sounding the alarm since Congress cut him off on it in 2006. He dropped the ball and let the Congressional donks bully him.

a capella on September 27, 2008 at 4:45 PM

Can someone explain to me why it’s so vital for ACORN to get a cut of any profit? What’s so special about ACORN that they are pushing this so hard?

CookeyD on September 27, 2008 at 4:37 PM

ACORN goes out and “registers” voters, saving the Dems the time and expense of signing up dead and imaginary people. And if there’s any fraud, it can’t be clearly traced back to the Dems. But they benefit.

Wethal on September 27, 2008 at 4:46 PM

I went through my address book this morning, over 400 strong, and asked each of them to write to the NRCC and tell them if they allowed the ACORN bailout then we will never support Republicans again.

My tax dollars will not go to finance a criminal enterprise. It is my understanding they have received untold thousands of emails saying stop the give away.

Charlie Schumer and Barney Franks also want seats on the oversight board dedicated to Labor Unions and “community organizers”. This travesty has to stop.

Jdripper on September 27, 2008 at 4:46 PM

Prediction: October Surprise? ACORN dirt is found and dished out and is so far reaching that the Democratic Party never rules anything again.

Cardiganfox on September 27, 2008 at 4:46 PM

Yes, please! Someone explain this to me- If we are in a crisis, and this must be done, (NOW!) What on earth are the Dem’s thinking, and what is the vital importance of attaching this ACORN crap to the bill? Who’s the big wheel getting greased, and/or what secrets are going to come out if ACORN isn’t greased? Doesn’t make sense to hold it up for ACORN, because this will cause an awful lot of attention on them!

anniekc on September 27, 2008 at 4:47 PM

A military coup is now starting to look good. I can’t believe I would say that in my lifetime. Arrest Congress now, pass a clean bailout and keep Washington under martial law. They have proven they cannot lead on this. Congress needs detention.

Sapwolf on September 27, 2008 at 4:47 PM

What makes you think they’re going to talk about it now?

The Lone Platypus on September 27, 2008 at 4:43 PM

They may not, but on the other hand, maybe it’s better not to play that card too early. The media will give Obama cover and the issue will be swept away…so it’s better, perhaps, to expose him later in the game.

Just a guess.

capitalist piglet on September 27, 2008 at 4:47 PM

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:45 PM

Me three.

Cardiganfox on September 27, 2008 at 4:47 PM

Would it do any good if President Bush told Dodd, Pelosi, and Frank that he will veto the legislation if it includes a slush fund for the corrupt ACORN?

btw, Megyn Kelly did an interview earlier today on ACORN. I believe she said that FOX was going to do a thorough expose’ at 5:00…

Buy Danish on September 27, 2008 at 4:48 PM

intentionally leaked the Republican position to Obama via his Goldman Sachs buddies for political gain, then he’s going to Federal prison.

TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:19 PM

What’s this about, Texas? I’m clueless.

IrishEi on September 27, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Why do you say secession is ridiculous?

ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 4:39 PM

Because we’re not India and Pakistan. There are many millions of Democrats in Red States and many millions of Republicans in Blue States. And we’re all Americans.

We’ll get through this, because Socialism always turns things to crap,l and Americans work hard. And, besides, we have over 100 million private guns, which helps – a fact that continually scares the crap out of the Obamacrats.

TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:49 PM

ACORN must have some incredible shit on Obama or Dodd or both. I just cannot understand this putting pork in for organizations that are part of the whole sub-prime mess.

And McCain needs to get off his ass and show the country the link between Obama and ACORN.

What’s he waiting for beside the bailout getting done?

Sapwolf on September 27, 2008 at 4:49 PM

I have a feeling the misery meter is about to spike. Say no to ACORN.

Zorro on September 27, 2008 at 4:49 PM

a capella on September 27, 2008 at 4:45 PM

We probably don’t disagree on mistakes he’s made – I thought we probably just disagreed on what drives him. I don’t think he cares too much about his “legacy”, really. I think he loves this country…and you seem to, as well, so maybe we don’t disagree very much at all.

Or something. ; )

capitalist piglet on September 27, 2008 at 4:50 PM

“Cardiganfox on September 27, 2008 at 4:46 ”

not.gonna.happen. — however, i’d settle for bouncing duh1 plus donk losses in both houses due to it …

Buckaroo on September 27, 2008 at 4:50 PM

What’s this about, Texas? I’m clueless.

IrishEi on September 27, 2008 at 4:49 PM

Rush announced it, Boehner hinted at it, and it’s also in the American Spectator. VERY ugly!!
LOOK IT UP..

TexasJew on September 27, 2008 at 4:50 PM

We still don’t have anything that compares to Japanese institutional corruption and socio-economic and political rigidity.

CK MacLeod on September 27, 2008 at 4:38 PM

Also, unlike Japan we are letting assets be repriced–through mark-to-market accounting and by letting banks fail. It’s ugly for us now, but Japan didn’t go through the acute pain that we are experiencing. We’ll be better sooner because of it.

dedalus on September 27, 2008 at 4:50 PM

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