What’s more important — a debate or a financial crisis?
posted at 12:00 pm on September 26, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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I’m a little amused by the sudden priority of holding a presidential debate today, rather than have two Senators focus on an emerging national crisis that simply can’t be rescheduled. Earlier this week, Barack Obama described the credit meltdown as the worst financial crisis this nation has seen in almost eighty years, and demonstrated that he didn’t even begin to understand its origins:
They said they wanted to let the markets run free, and instead they let them run wild. And in doing so, they trampled on our core values of fairness, and balance, and responsibility to one another. And as a result, we are facing a financial crisis as profound as anything we have faced since the Great Depression.
Wrong. We’re in this crisis because government intervened to impose its ideas of “fairness”, “balance”, and “responsibility to one another”. Congress demanded that lenders lower requirements for borrowers and then mandated that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac buy the bad paper and resell them as securities in order to encourage overzealous risktaking. This is not a free-market failure, it’s a government-mandated collapse, thanks to a Congress that forced “fairness” over discipline and responsible lending. The fact that Obama to this moment still doesn’t understand that shows that he would not just repeat the same mistakes that led to the collapse, but would redouble efforts to mandate “fairness”, “balance”, and “responsibility to one another” — and lead us into the same trap all over again.
But even beyond that, Obama’s correct in noting the scope of this failure and the necessity of addressing it now. Given that, our Senators and Representatives should be on Capitol Hill, dealing with the most “profound” crisis since the Depression. Instead, Obama had to get dragged back to Washington and now wants to leave to hold a debate — on foreign policy. (I guess that beats working out at the gym.)
Putting aside partisan considerations at the moment, what should be the highest priority for our elected representatives at the moment? Dealing with an unfolding national crisis that Congress has to address, or flying out of town for a debate that could easily get rescheduled — and which has little value anyway?
In order to select the latter, one has to produce even one single tangible public benefit that results from holding a debate on this particular day that outweighs the need to address the biggest financial crisis in decades. That’s $700 billion taxpayer dollars at risk, as opposed to a debate on foreign policy from two candidates who have been talking about this subject at length for the last two years or more. What benefit from holding this debate tonight outweighs the need to oversee that kind of risk?
Ruben Navarette has similar thoughts:
Earlier this week, McCain abruptly suspended his campaign and requested that the debate be postponed until Congress finishes the heavy lifting of approving a bailout. That put Obama and McCain in a classic Mexican standoff with each trying to look presidential, while attempting to map out a course that would benefit him politically.
Some in the Obama-friendly media were quick to dismiss McCain’s move as a political stunt. I don’t know. It’s not like launching one’s candidacy in Springfield, Illinois, in the hopes of conjuring up comparisons to Abraham Lincoln, or moving one’s convention speech to a football stadium to accommodate a larger crowd.
The debates themselves are nothing more than political stunts. They pit two candidates against each other to discuss complicated issues, and give them each 120 seconds to discuss them. The debates exist to produce sound bites, not public policy. They’re a game show aimed at people who don’t pay attention to policy and make up their minds by determining who delivers the best comeback.
If the presidential race featured two Governors rather than two Senators, then the debate could go on. Governors would have no role in developing public policy to address the crisis. However, Senators already have a job in Washington, and actual policy should take priority over a television show, especially since we still have more than five weeks in which to reschedule it.
Barack Obama and John McCain already have jobs, and in a crisis, that’s where they should focus.
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McCain needs to come out fighting…not reiterating his desire to compromise with his friends on the other side of the aisle.
If his press release today is any indication of his current mood, that’s exactly what he’ll do.
He has turned a Friday night debate that many people probably didn’t even know about into the second most talked about event of the week.
If he can pull this off, it will be huge. If he fails he might put himself right behind the proverbial eight ball.
This would be a lot of fun, if it wasn’t so deadly serious.
Dorvillian on September 26, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Did we watch the same GOP statement? It was pathetic. They need to give it back to the Dems and fight for conservative, republican ideals.
I don’t think the American people are going to get a kiss….
get the KY out.
HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Is anyone else completely and totally demoralized and discouraged by the ease with which the Dems and MSM have been able to successfully portray McCain as a lying coward in this whole thing?? I’ve come to think that so-called “independent” voters who apparently change their minds daily about who thry will vote for, are just ignorant idiots. And they’re going to decide the future of the nation? Ugh.
Priscilla on September 26, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Rush just told what happened in the meeting yesterday. Has anyone else heard what happened?
Apparently Bush deferred to the Dems to start it off. They all nodded to OBambi to lead. He’d been tipped off by email on his way to the meeting by Paulson’s staffers, saying the Republican plan was terrible. He had no idea what the plan was but he led off by blasting the Republicans in the meeting. The fit hit the shan and everything broke down.
AubieJon on September 26, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Check mate…as long as the Senate Repubs don’t screw it up!
HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:52 PM
I wish it were so, but it won’t happen. The mods won’t let it happen, and since this is on foreign policy, McCain would be crucified by the media for going off topic. Tonight will be rehashing stuff that’s all been said before.
a capella on September 26, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Hmmm…. how fast can we get a Freedom of Information request out… this was a PUBLIC meeting of our elected Reps, not a private meeting between Bush and his counselors… should be public record.
Romeo13 on September 26, 2008 at 12:55 PM
I believe Grahamsty was sent out to float the Acorn story….he wouldn’t do anything without checking with McCain first. He is a good lap dog.
I HOPE that the acorn thing breaks wide open. Unfortunately, most of Obama’s voters probably either volunteer or are benefitting from their crimes.
HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:56 PM
I agree with this 100%, good job Ed.
WisCon on September 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Post partisanship at it’s finest, plus Bush’s boy, Paulson, working hand in glove with the donks.
Barry just goes where he’s led.
a capella on September 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM
What’s more important – people doing their job or political posturing?
Tommy_G on September 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM
With your emphasis on Obama being a bumbling idiot when it comes to working without a teleprompter, you should be foaming at the mouth over this.
SouthernDem on September 26, 2008 at 12:59 PM
I hold the indies responsible for about 30% and the media responsible for about 70%.
Decision are only as good as the information provided and the MSM is going out of their way to throw Republicans under the bus, promoted the idea that Armageddon is near and portray Obama as the only possible hope.
There is a reason that the Dems don’t want “Presidential campaign lights and cameras” involved. It will allow the American people to see the inherent corruption. They want to pass a bogus bill that will produce a false rebound on the market and claim credit for saving the universe. $700 billion will shore things up till after election day and keep everyone blissfully ignorant to the problem.
This must not be allowed to stand.
Damiano on September 26, 2008 at 1:01 PM
I’ve been spitting blood all f#cking morning!
FiveWays on September 26, 2008 at 1:02 PM
Oblabo the empty suit.
This guy is a stone-cold asshat and the fact that he has as much support as he does is a national travesty.
Bishop on September 26, 2008 at 1:02 PM
GOP speaking now on Fox.
FiveWays on September 26, 2008 at 1:03 PM
YES! Republicans starting to show some balls.
FiveWays on September 26, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Now, this is what I was talking about…hold the line…hold the line!
HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Backbone found! In the house repubs. Beautiful!
HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 1:04 PM
YES! Call them out!
FiveWays on September 26, 2008 at 1:04 PM
I’ve been posting on other forums and the number of people who are clinging to this being a Free Market failure and not a govt failure is fairly high. Seriously, there are people while not using the word but are straight up asking for socialism in this country because they feel this current crisis is yet another example of how the Free Market has failed.
Scary stuff.
Yakko77 on September 26, 2008 at 1:04 PM
Thank God for The House GOP Leaders!
FiveWays on September 26, 2008 at 1:05 PM
Watch and learn GOP Senate!
FiveWays on September 26, 2008 at 1:06 PM
Barry will do fine. He’s protected by the format, and I’m sure part of his prep was working without the teleprompter. He knows his own weaknesses.
a capella on September 26, 2008 at 1:06 PM
The interesting thing for anyone really taking notice through the libmedia fog is that Obama himself feels that he is unimportant and unnecessary for the determination of crucial and long lasting policy decisions, whereas McCain is viewed as central on issues of leadership of central issues of the day. That says anything that needs to be said about who should and must be the next President of the USA.
eaglewingz08 on September 26, 2008 at 1:08 PM
Alert…Senate sources: expect a bill out tonight by midnight.
I smell a rat.
HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 1:11 PM
Rush Limbaugh gave a detailed description of what went down in the White House yesterday on his radio show. Apparently, Pelosi, Reid and the other Democrat Leaders deferred to Obama to lead the discussion. However, instead of acting in a bipartisan manner, Obama decided to rip the Republicans for their policy position on this matter. Obama was suppose to stick to support for the Democrat plan. Instead, he “got in their faces”.
Needless to say,the Republican Leaders led by Boehner responded vigorously to the attack. The meeting was totally derailed by Obama.
One of the items the GOP is having issue with is the amount of money going to ACORN. You might recall ACORN is the vote-fraud promoting group sponsored by Obama.
This meeting was suppose to demonstrate Obama’s leadership skills. I guess it does. Please spread the word, as we need to get the truth out.
Mutnodjmet on September 26, 2008 at 1:11 PM
I seem to be on the opposite side of HotAir today.
I think it is entirely appropriate that the debate go on. The election is just a few weeks away and people deserve to see the candidates face off against each other on a variety of topics.
Especially since, given the revelations about the negotiations, the expanded discussion of approaches to this problem and voter reaction to the prospect of a liberal bailout, I am not at all sure that a vote on this will come before the election.
Bush doesn’t see to have a whole lot clout and he seems to be willing to concede leadership to Congress, which, being led by Democrats, are unwilling to shoulder the responsibility.
It’s fascinating in a very macabre sense.
BigD on September 26, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Obama already said he’s going to make an issue of it in tonight’s debate, no matter what the chosen topic. Thusly, McCain should b!tch-slap that big-eared garden gnome.
SKYFOX on September 26, 2008 at 1:12 PM
What you left out was the Obama’s briefing on the subject came via e-mail from a bunch of Paulson’s lemmings at Treasury.
No wonder Paulson is genuflecting before Pelosi.
BigD on September 26, 2008 at 1:14 PM
Someone get a transcript of Rush’s show and send it to McCain.
These a$$clowns on the other side of the aisle, your so-called friends, are telling you to get the hell out of town!
I can only imagine what McCain’s fellow amnesty friend, Teddy, would be saying if he was around.
HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Anyone who works in the banking industry knows that most large banks have basically shut down new business origination. The managers of these institutions, especially those with solvency issues, are still trying to avoid writing off losses on illiquid assets because they know that to do so will result in a takeover by the FDIC and career death for all of the managers who made these bad decisions. And yet it is precisely a market-based resolution that is in the best interest of the US taxpayer, the economy and the well-managed banks in the US that did not slither into the subprime, derivative swamp.
We are glad to see that President George Bush finally took our advice and invited the two presidential candidates to the White House to discuss the financial crisis. But unfortunately, Bush still does not understand that Paulson, Bernanke and the other incompetent, conflicted former Goldman Sachs (NYSE:GS) banksters and academic economists who populate the US Treasury and Federal Reserve Board (excluding all bank supervision personnel, naturally) are the biggest obstacles to forging a workable plan to help re-liquefy the banking system.
We hear from several sources who were in the room that the meeting between Bush, John McCain (R-AZ) and Barrack Obama (D-IL) quickly devolved into a pissing contest between the two presidential candidates. Obama initially took control of the meeting, this while Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Harry Reid (D-NV) sat in silence. McCain then began to mumble something incomprehensible about “a plan” but we see no evidence that the AZ senator has formulated a serious proposal. So nasty and sharp was the exchange between McCain and Obama that President Bush had to get in between the two men. Who says the first debate is going to be delayed?
KentAllard on September 26, 2008 at 1:19 PM
At the debate, Mcain has a great opportunity to go over the heads of the MSM and tell the American people to their faces he believes 100% of any “profits” from any bailout package belong to the American taxpayers. Period.
He then points out the current legislation among other things has a built in slush fund whereby the first 20% of profits – conceivably $100-$200 million (which belong to the taxpayer) will go instead to fund voter registration and other community activist groups – including ACORN which is presently facing criminal charges in over a dozen states.
Then he should call upon Pelosi to bring the bill to the floor, either with the 20% slush fund, or without, and have an up/down vote.
alwyr on September 26, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Obama already said he’s going to make an issue of it in tonight’s debate, no matter what the chosen topic. Thusly, McCain should b!tch-slap that big-eared garden gnome.
SKYFOX on September 26, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Great, just great, so this liberal twit will do to the debate what he did to the financial crisis plan: cause it to fall into some odd shouting match.
I thought I hated Obabbo before, this guy will be a frocking disaster in the WH. I would take Hillary in a New York minute over Obibby.
Bishop on September 26, 2008 at 1:19 PM
GOP really needs to take the gloves off…McCain and Palin have tried to stay classy and absorb their hits. As far as I can see, it hasn’t worked at all, and, worse has made them easy marks for Obama’s thuggish tactics. I’m ready for a real Republican Attack Machine.
Priscilla on September 26, 2008 at 1:19 PM
I’m glad to see the Repubs still fighting against the bailout as currently composed. If nothing else they should get SOMETHING for all their efforts. If not, I hope they don’t vote for the plan.
This Community Organizations provision of the bailout (20%!!!!!!!!!!) is absolutely ridiculous. It looks like the Dems are still trying to play the vastly unfair fairness game. I hope the Republicans focus on that and get it out of the bill. If they do all of this angst will be worth it.
JonPrichard on September 26, 2008 at 1:22 PM
” I’m ready for a real Republican Attack Machine.”
um, don’t hold your breath …
:-(
Buckaroo on September 26, 2008 at 1:22 PM
You’re exactly right, Ed. The emphasis that’s put on our now non-debate debates is ridiculous. They might as well be reality show contestants. After CNN staged a YouTube debate with a “snowman” asking a question earlier this year, why does anyone take these things seriously?
CP on September 26, 2008 at 1:24 PM
Word.
Priscilla on September 26, 2008 at 1:24 PM
“BigD on September 26, 2008 at 1:12 PM”
i’m with ya — that is the situation on the ground as it is, not as so many righties wish it to be …
/and I think John already sees this and hence the prime path is he does well tonite, is at the bill passage/photo ops tomorrow/sunday, and joe and mary public start saying “hey, this guy looks and acts like a president”
Buckaroo on September 26, 2008 at 1:26 PM
Be careful what you wish for…you know the Clintons.
HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 1:26 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen…
I do believe it is time for a New Vast Right Wing Conspiricy…. one whose function is to bring out the truth.
Romeo13 on September 26, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Ditto.
The Dems have been allowed far too much of a leash while the GOP has been cowering and absorbing the punches. The Dems are throwing buckets of their own feces in the hopes that the stench and mess will land elsewhere… and it’s been working.
Damiano on September 26, 2008 at 1:28 PM
Oh, if only Lee Atwater could come back to life.
JonPrichard on September 26, 2008 at 1:28 PM
“CP on September 26, 2008 at 1:24 PM”
iirc, that was late 2007 …
anywho, that was cnn/youtube primary silliness — this is late sept. — the real deal, and whether we like it or not joe and mary q public are JUST NOW STARTING to pay attention to the campaign — hard to believe as we’ve lived and died with it for TWO YEARS, but facts is facts; John’s job is to execute tonite — and I am confident he will …
Buckaroo on September 26, 2008 at 1:28 PM
………….. time to stop the paychecks.
Seven Percent Solution on September 26, 2008 at 1:29 PM
Today, we get the revolt of the elitists, with Parker’s “send Palin home” article in NRO that comes right out of the Howard Dean playbook, Heather MacDonald, and Peggy Noonan (Rod Dreher too, though he’s just an idiot). Between the elitists and the MSD sufferers, it often seems like they’re trying very hard to sabotage the GOP in November.
rightwingprof on September 26, 2008 at 1:29 PM
“rightwingprof on September 26, 2008 at 1:29 PM”
s.o.p., sadly …
Buckaroo on September 26, 2008 at 1:30 PM
Was that part of the original draft that was pushed by Bush?
a capella on September 26, 2008 at 1:34 PM
No, Dodd. See Acorn.
HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 1:36 PM
rightwingprof on September 26, 2008 at 1:29 PM
Yep. What’s the point in trashing Palin now? She isn’t going to be replaced. Parker sounds like some left wing hag. She should know better than that. As for Noonan and the rest, I’ve stopped reading their drivel. It would be better to say nothing at this point about Palin if they have reservations. Evidently, they think their opinions are so important that we must all hear about it.
No thanks.
Cody1991 on September 26, 2008 at 1:36 PM
Politico:
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) ended three days of suspense on Friday morning and announced that he will leave bailout negotiations in Washington and fly to Oxford, Miss., for tonight’s opening presidential debate.
McCain had previously said that he would suspend his campaign—and so would not attend the debate—until an agreement was reached on the administration’s $700 billion mortgage proposal.
No such agreement has been reached, but Republicans said the standoff was hurting McCain’s campaign and that he would look terrible if he didn’t attend the nationally televised, eagerly anticipated debate, while Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) was ready to go on stage.
KentAllard on September 26, 2008 at 1:37 PM
Hedging their bets in case of an Obama victory. They dread being on the outside looking in, hence a little preparatory work.
a capella on September 26, 2008 at 1:37 PM
McCain made a fool of himself by saying that the debates should be postponed. How often does the Senate work Friday night? How often does the Senate do any work on Friday? Neither Obama or McCain is on a committee that is presently doing any major work on the “crisis.” Let’s just hope Obama doesn’t have the presence of mind to ask McCain for one specific action McCain could have taken in the last few days that would have been of any help to anyone.
snaggletoothie on September 26, 2008 at 1:38 PM
Prediction of the debate:
Obama will say McCain grandstanded
McCain will say Obama ducked his responsibility
Dems will claim Obama won
Republicans will claim McCain won
MSM will claim Obama won
Talk Radio will claim McCain won
Sunday, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, will all say Obama won
Fox will say McCain won
Campaign continues on Monday…
right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 1:39 PM
“KentAllard on September 26, 2008 at 1:37 PM”
um, that’s a misrepresnetation — he said he planned on suspending until PROGRESS was made — plus he’s flying back to dc afterwards anyway …
Buckaroo on September 26, 2008 at 1:40 PM
Apparently you don’t read the paper…Reid specifically said McCain needs to be there or there would be no deal…Reid begged for McCains leadership and input.
McCain showed up, lead the Republicans, helped the Republicans expose the ACORN fiasco, and Reid got upset because the Dems were exposed as charlatans…
Nice try though…unfortunately (for you) we actually look at the news and not the Democrat talking points, try it some day.
right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 1:44 PM
The Dems have they’ll work all night tonight to get this done. This is Friday. Nice try.
AubieJon on September 26, 2008 at 1:44 PM
I have called you on this before, and you won’t listen…how about showing us this quote the link, where did you get “until and agreement was reached”.
Please you are caught time and again
misquoting, misstating,lying.Once again, read the news, Reid begged him to come and help out, they needed his leadership. Reid did not ask for Obama to come, he asked for McCain to come to Washington. That was your leader asking for help from McCain.
right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM
John McCain: “We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved. I am directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night’s debate until we have taken action to address this crisis.
KentAllard on September 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM
I’m sorry but I’m a pessimist about this whole thing. One of the few things I understand about this is that government’s involvement in this banking adventure has caused the problem. The current president, democrats, some republicans and the media either don’t understand this or are purposefully keeping that fact off the table. Because of this ignorance and/or ineptness we are destined to continue pushing that ever growing snowball up an ever inclining mountain to which someday they’ll be no more incline but the otherside of the mountain.
Good conservatives have been yelling this from the rooftops but it’s falling on the deaf ears of those in charge in Washington.
And yes, the conservatives will be blamed though they were shouting it. Proudful ignorance doesn’t seek to grasp what it needs to understand but instead villianizes it.
shick on September 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM
right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM
How often does our Treasury Sec demand a $700 billion check to do with as he pleases?
progressoverpeace on September 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM
McCain has said repeatedly that the economy isn’t his strong point. There are people better suited to handle this. None of them lawyers, either.
Washington seriously needs some other professions represented.
angelat0763 on September 26, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Yeah, that sounds about right.
YYZ on September 26, 2008 at 1:54 PM
I am not your mother. It is not my responsibility to spoon feed you. Read the first word of my comment. That is where it is from. Politico. It is a web site.
KentAllard on September 26, 2008 at 1:54 PM
“KentAllard on September 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM”
“resolved” is not the same as “passed,” moron …
Buckaroo on September 26, 2008 at 1:54 PM
Obama was on t.v. 2 days ago assuring us that if he was needed in Washington, “they should just call him – and he’d be there.”
Q. Why would ANYBODY call on Obama to come to Washington? To tap into his 143 days’ experience in the Senate?
alwyr on September 26, 2008 at 1:55 PM
A big difference between that statement and yours
You don’t see a difference between the words action and reached?
He is comfortable with the action and the direction of the solution, now he can debate.
In case you have forgotten, his and Obama’s paying job is to be a senator, not a debater.
right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 1:56 PM
“right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 1:52 PM”
i think tapper is the last honest reporter within the lll networks …
Buckaroo on September 26, 2008 at 1:56 PM
You are delusional.
KentAllard on September 26, 2008 at 1:58 PM
Looks like you initially took the liberty of misrepresenting what he said until you were challenged.
Care to explain why you did it?
a capella on September 26, 2008 at 2:00 PM
KentAllard, snaggletoothie, Shipley, and Roger Waters (Pinky) should go start their own blog and see how many readers they attract. See if they could get any advertisers for their sidebars. They could sit all day at their keyboards, whining and crying. I’m sure lots of decent, hardworking, honest folks would join them.
AubieJon on September 26, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Your snarky comment still makes you wrong. Now let me mother you, you little fool.
Don’t you know what a link is? Do I have to spoon feed you?
Who in Politico, a poster said this, a commentator, was this an ad?
Get it? Like I said, this wasn’t the first time you were caught doing this…so we are a little suspicious of trolls like you.
right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Right, Ed. McCain got it right a couple of days ago by suspending the debate until a deal is done. By flip flopping on that decision today, he makes himself look bad.
james23 on September 26, 2008 at 2:01 PM
right2bright
When and where did Reid say that McCain had to be there? If McCain’s presence made any difference, I was wrong. But not so sure anything has made any difference yet.
snaggletoothie on September 26, 2008 at 2:02 PM
Listening to some liberal black radio program yesterday I heard a caller say that white republicans forced Obama to go to Washington to deal with the crisis and that McCain was obviously afraid to debate. Of course the caller was deluded but the programs hosts were in full agreement and it’s likely that listeners would come to the same conclusions.
Isn’t it wonderful that even in an economic crisis the race card has to get played.
I’m glad I trust in God because this stupidity is going to really cost us.
shick on September 26, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Oh, look another delusional poster.
And another
Everyone is delusional but you…
right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 2:04 PM
I also heard Rush explain that it was Obama, not McCain, who “blew up” the meeting on the bailout, by criticizing the House GOP proposal without having read it carefully, after which the House GOP representative jumped in to offer a rebuttal, after which the negotiations broke down over the proposal to give 20% of the profits to ACORN.
Even if the “profits” were only 1% of the $700 billion, 20% of that would be $1.4 BILLION to ACORN. Could anyone imagine the electoral fraud they could commit with $1.4 Billion, which is more than twice what the Obama campaign has raised? The House GOP probably went ballistic over that, and rightly so!
What is extremely frustrating is the lack of a good GOP rebuttal to Dems telling the press that McCain somehow “blew up” the meeting. McCain absolutely NEEDS to pounce on this during tonight’s debate, and lay the blame squarely where it belongs. He can do it, he was at that meeting, but people need to know!
Steve Z on September 26, 2008 at 2:04 PM
Slapping a web site name up as a preface to a cut and paste doesn’t excuse your failure to provide the correct language until you were forced.
a capella on September 26, 2008 at 2:07 PM
John McCain: “We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved. I am directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night’s debate until we have taken action to address this crisis.
That is what John McCain said. The earlier comment of mine, as I noted in the very first word of it, was from Politico.
What part of what McCain said can’t you understand? McCain said, “we must meet until this crisis is resolved“. It has not been resolved! McCain also said, “delay Friday night’s debate until we have taken action to address this crisis“. Action has not been taken! Talk is not the same as taking action. If you think that it is, I can’t help you. Find somebody else to try to spoon feed you.
KentAllard on September 26, 2008 at 2:08 PM
I am so pissed. Those stinking lying democraps make me want to go out and kick puppies. I know I’m going to get in trouble for saying this, but too damn bad: I hope someone, ugly and more deranged than myself, comes across Harry Reid in a dark alley and helps him to see the light. Someone who doesn’t care that he’s an old man, just cares that he’s an evil liar.
Thats all.
anniekc on September 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Whats important is McCain coming into the debate like an enraged Bull and bowling over his Marxist opponent.
Speakup on September 26, 2008 at 2:11 PM
B.S. I am not your mother.
No one forced me to do anything. It was charity on my part to those who need to be spoon feed.
KentAllard on September 26, 2008 at 2:11 PM
I know he has to perform tonight and I hope he will. I just hope there are responsible, relevant questions asked that will serve the public and not gotcha questions that will serve the media circus.
CP on September 26, 2008 at 2:12 PM
I agree he needs to make this known but it has no place at the debate. Debates are to be about the topic at hand. I’m a regular debate watcher and get easily irritated by those who stray from the topic and focus on other issues.
shick on September 26, 2008 at 2:12 PM
What in God’s name is so hard about -
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John McCain: “We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved. I am directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night’s debate until we have taken action to address this crisis.
for some of you to comprehend?
What McCain said sure looks very clear to me.
Maybe if you read it again and again and very slowly a light bulb will go on.
I am getting weary of having to try to spoon feed you.
KentAllard on September 26, 2008 at 2:17 PM
All the hype surrounding the debate sounds like some sort of wrestling match. I would just like to Mc be Presidential, be a leader, and get above the fray. I do hope he offers BO a townhall meeting..
d1carter on September 26, 2008 at 2:20 PM
Funny the dems are saying today both that McCain didn’t say anything during the meeting until the end and then it was only general and not substantive and/or what he said wasn’t understandable; but at the same time the dems are saying that McCain blew up the meeting because of all the things he said at the meeting.
Dems if you’re going to brazenly lie to the public, please get your lies in order and don’t contradict yourselves, it just makes you look like the tools that you are.
eaglewingz08 on September 26, 2008 at 2:21 PM
link
One of several links to this quote, that was not denied by Reid.
He tried to bluff McCain and it did not work, it backfired, so he then “disenvited” McCain.
McCain is the Republican leader, he was there to lead. Boehner and the rest felt assured that they were choosing the right decision not to back the first draft of this poorly written bill.
With McCain taking the stand against Bush and Obama, he again showed he is the one that would buck the traditional insider politics to work and support a better deal.
Don’t be so coy as to make us think you do not understand leadership. You don’t have to be the one who throws the pass, or designs the play that wins the game. The nation was faced with a bad bill, put together by the ones who allowed the problem to happen. They are in power and they came to bully there way to a “solution”, McCain, as a powerful leader, and backed up Boehner and the rest. If Pelosi and Reid was so powerful, and had so many votes, then why not “run over” McCain. Because they know they had to have McCain’s approval…he is the leader of the country, the one that is not swayed by Pelosi, Reid, Bush, Dodd, Franks. The didn’t ask for Obama, Obama would do whatever they said, it was McCain they had to listen to…so now you tell me, who is the real leader of the country?…Obama who sat listened and agreed, or McCain who put his reputation on the line by backing Boehner and the rest to force the powers to rewrite and make a better bill.
He was willing to lose the election, to make sure we have a sound economic bill, or at least the best in a short time.
right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 2:21 PM
Where’d you find that? A link to the actual site would be nice.
AubieJon on September 26, 2008 at 2:21 PM
LOL. Spin, spin, spin. Are you claiming they have to be in a meeting continuously to meet your definition of making progress or reaching resolution? I’d say his insistence that consideration of a different approach be allowed is progress. Obviously, you were good with the original giving Paulson cart blanche and no accountability.
a capella on September 26, 2008 at 2:24 PM
He doesn’t like to do that. He calls it spoonfeeding.
a capella on September 26, 2008 at 2:26 PM
A real classy, polite comment contributing to the dialogue on this issue. It’s people like you who have really raised the level of “civil discourse” on Hot Air.
asc85 on September 26, 2008 at 2:27 PM
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