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What’s more important — a debate or a financial crisis?

posted at 12:00 pm on September 26, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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I’m a little amused by the sudden priority of holding a presidential debate today, rather than have two Senators focus on an emerging national crisis that simply can’t be rescheduled.  Earlier this week, Barack Obama described the credit meltdown as the worst financial crisis this nation has seen in almost eighty years, and demonstrated that he didn’t even begin to understand its origins:

They said they wanted to let the markets run free, and instead they let them run wild. And in doing so, they trampled on our core values of fairness, and balance, and responsibility to one another. And as a result, we are facing a financial crisis as profound as anything we have faced since the Great Depression.

Wrong. We’re in this crisis because government intervened to impose its ideas of “fairness”, “balance”, and “responsibility to one another”.  Congress demanded that lenders lower requirements for borrowers and then mandated that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac buy the bad paper and resell them as securities in order to encourage overzealous risktaking.  This is not a free-market failure, it’s a government-mandated collapse, thanks to a Congress that forced “fairness” over discipline and responsible lending.  The fact that Obama to this moment still doesn’t understand that shows that he would not just repeat the same mistakes that led to the collapse, but would redouble efforts to mandate “fairness”, “balance”, and “responsibility to one another” — and lead us into the same trap all over again.

But even beyond that, Obama’s correct in noting the scope of this failure and the necessity of addressing it now.  Given that, our Senators and Representatives should be on Capitol Hill, dealing with the most “profound” crisis since the Depression.  Instead, Obama had to get dragged back to Washington and now wants to leave to hold a debate — on foreign policy. (I guess that beats working out at the gym.)

Putting aside partisan considerations at the moment, what should be the highest priority for our elected representatives at the moment?  Dealing with an unfolding national crisis that Congress has to address, or flying out of town for a debate that could easily get rescheduled — and which has little value anyway?

In order to select the latter, one has to produce even one single tangible public benefit that results from holding a debate on this particular day that outweighs the need to address the biggest financial crisis in decades.  That’s $700 billion taxpayer dollars at risk, as opposed to a debate on foreign policy from two candidates who have been talking about this subject at length for the last two years or more.  What benefit from holding this debate tonight outweighs the need to oversee that kind of risk?

Ruben Navarette has similar thoughts:

Earlier this week, McCain abruptly suspended his campaign and requested that the debate be postponed until Congress finishes the heavy lifting of approving a bailout. That put Obama and McCain in a classic Mexican standoff with each trying to look presidential, while attempting to map out a course that would benefit him politically.

Some in the Obama-friendly media were quick to dismiss McCain’s move as a political stunt. I don’t know. It’s not like launching one’s candidacy in Springfield, Illinois, in the hopes of conjuring up comparisons to Abraham Lincoln, or moving one’s convention speech to a football stadium to accommodate a larger crowd.

The debates themselves are nothing more than political stunts.  They pit two candidates against each other to discuss complicated issues, and give them each 120 seconds to discuss them.  The debates exist to produce sound bites, not public policy.  They’re a game show aimed at people who don’t pay attention to policy and make up their minds by determining who delivers the best comeback.

If the presidential race featured two Governors rather than two Senators, then the debate could go on.  Governors would have no role in developing public policy to address the crisis.  However, Senators already have a job in Washington, and actual policy should take priority over a television show, especially since we still have more than five weeks in which to reschedule it.

Barack Obama and John McCain already have jobs, and in a crisis, that’s where they should focus.


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It’s all politics as usual for the Democrap scum……..

FiveWays on September 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM

If you’re an ego maniac, of course it’s getting on the tube and waxing Obamology-like.

Hening on September 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Mr. McCain’s opening remarks should start with the following lines………..Good Evening, Sen. Dodd was a top recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae.

Sen. Dodd received a preferential loan from Countrywide.

Sen. Dodd is a prime example of what is wrong with Washington.

Sen. Dodd should step aside as we work on solving this crisis.

For the good of the country, Sen. Dodd should consider resigning.

Good night and I’m headed back to Washington now to introduce an ethics investigation into all member of the Senate and House Banking Committee’s

Randy1968 on September 26, 2008 at 12:04 PM

Uh….uh….when a tornado is bearing down on you…you don’t stop to vacuum the carpet.

And I’m talking to the Dems trying to shove a 700 Billion bailout, giving money to their favorite pet…ACORN….

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:04 PM

I wonder, could government imposed “fairness” and “balance” in the housing industry, and the results of such, be a model of what would happen to our healthcare system if such “fairness” and “balance” were forced onto it?

ballz2wallz on September 26, 2008 at 12:04 PM

They might have a point if this was a domestic debate, but it’s foreign

lodge on September 26, 2008 at 12:04 PM

Debates are stupid and pointless.

Nothing new will be learned from them. They serve only the purpose to allow eitehr candidate to make a gaffe. Other then that, we already know their positions.

TheHat on September 26, 2008 at 12:04 PM

I am a bit disappointed that McCain will go through with the debate. We all know the MSM will ram this through McCain’s throat as a political stunt. He should stay in D.C.
However, he is running for president and there is overwhelming support, according to polls, that Americans want a debate.

jencab on September 26, 2008 at 12:04 PM

The Obamessiah wants it.

drjohn on September 26, 2008 at 12:05 PM

For BHO, campaigning is “executive experience” and debates are “legislation”. The guy is an outright moron.

progressoverpeace on September 26, 2008 at 12:05 PM

Obama’s left D.C. — he’s on a plane to Mississippi.

Wouldn’t it be fun if there’s massive progress this afternoon, and a new deal is more or less in place — and it all happened while Obama was away and repeating his delightful, “Call me if I can be of help…”

ClintACK on September 26, 2008 at 12:05 PM

McCain can now cut his people lose to refute the Democrat/Media narrative on the financial implosion. This may be just as important as the debate.

forest on September 26, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Answer: My daughters soccer game !!!

jake-the-goose on September 26, 2008 at 12:06 PM

What Einstein came up with Friday night as a good night for a debate? Out here in Flyoverland, Friday night is hgh school football night. Its still payday for a lot of people which means its the one night of the week to eat out. It is shopping night for people who work for a living. Its drive the kids somewhere night. Other than Saturday night, I can’t think of a more stupid day of the week for an important debate.

flyoverland on September 26, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Mr. McCain’s opening remarks should start with the following lines………..Good Evening, Sen. Dodd was a top recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae.

Sen. Dodd received a preferential loan from Countrywide.

Sen. Dodd is a prime example of what is wrong with Washington.

Sen. Dodd should step aside as we work on solving this crisis.

For the good of the country, Sen. Dodd should consider resigning.

Good night and I’m headed back to Washington now to introduce an ethics investigation into all member of the Senate and House Banking Committee’s

Randy1968 on September 26, 2008 at 12:04 PM

DING DING DING! WE HAVE A WINNER!

FiveWays on September 26, 2008 at 12:06 PM

OBambi should have to go through a strip search, for wires and earpieces, before he walks out on that stage. Without his teleprompter, the best he can do is sound canned on his pat answers. I hope McCain tears him up and uses him for toilet paper.

AubieJon on September 26, 2008 at 12:07 PM

The debate is On!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on September 26, 2008 at 12:08 PM

Oh God, what a joke.

“Senator Obama, what do you think are your greatest strengths?”

“Senator McCain, why did you vote to commit genocide against the Iraqi people?”

jeff_from_mpls on September 26, 2008 at 12:08 PM

I hope I’m wrong, but McCain giving in for a debate was his first significant mistake of campaign.

Shivas Irons on September 26, 2008 at 12:08 PM

Why not move the debate to the Senate chambers? That way they can both stay in D.C. Besides, no one else is using the space constructively.

Fletch54 on September 26, 2008 at 12:09 PM

I agree that Friday night is a horrible night to have a debate. As it is, I’m not watching it. I got a 5-hour drive ahead of me tonight, and then I’m watching the mid-season finale of my favorite show. And honestly, I think our presidential candidates, being both active Senators, have other things to do than to showboat for the cameras.

If debates were held on Tuesdays, I might watch. There’s nothing better to do on Tuesdays.

Anna on September 26, 2008 at 12:09 PM

McCain just robbed Obambi from several crucial days of debate rehearsal. Let’s see if Obambi really can multitask.
Brilliant move Maverick!

FiveWays on September 26, 2008 at 12:09 PM

The debates themselves are nothing more than political stunts.

A clear majority of American’s think differently.

Country first, right?

cornfedbubba on September 26, 2008 at 12:10 PM

We’re in this crisis because government intervened to impose its ideas of “fairness”, “balance”, and “responsibility to one another”.

Good luck, Ed, getting a liberal to admit that. Hath Hell frozen over?

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 12:10 PM

The debate is on baaaaaaaabbbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy!

Fire up the Torpedo’s!!!haha

canopfor on September 26, 2008 at 12:11 PM

Obambi can uh and woo the female press corps at the same time….

I believe it will go like this:

“You got me down here…now, tell me what YOU would do if you were president, Senator Obama? Take a shower?

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:12 PM

You know you have done your job when fools like Schumer and Reid tell you to “get out of town”.
No better endorsement then that shows that McCain did a great job…

right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 12:13 PM

schooling a commie in public obviously….

Kaptain Amerika on September 26, 2008 at 12:13 PM

1. Each man is seeking to simplify things for his voters. The underlying issues are very complex, and the impression each makes in the debate will be a deciding factor on Nov. 4.

2. Back in Washington, each man has a team of trusted allies & proxies working on his behalf.

3. Media spotlight swivels from Washington to Mississippi. Both parties probably benefit from the breathing room.

RushBaby on September 26, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Remember, this a free-flowing debate. They changed the format

lodge on September 26, 2008 at 12:13 PM

Alright, the GOP is finally going to make a statement. Too bad it is the senator side.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Congress demanded that lenders lower requirements for borrowers and then mandated that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac buy the bad paper and resell them as securities in order to encourage overzealous risktaking.

Wait a minute. Isn’t the subprime mortgage debacle the result of hapless low-income borrower-victims being deceived by predatory lenders into agreeing the loans that they didn’t understand so they could live in a house that they couldn’t really afford?

That’s the only narrative that fits the Dem template, anyway. The lenders must be guilty; the borrowers must be victims.

Cicero43 on September 26, 2008 at 12:14 PM

which has little value anyway

Kind of disagree here. There are plenty of independents and undecideds IMO who are waiting for the debates. They ignore politics as usual and need to see both candidates in a structured debate environment.

Mrs. Magoo is one of them. She is a debate watcher/candidate decider. And if that’s the way she does it more power to her. At least she votes and tries to stay informed. As Joementum would say, “God love ya’!”

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Friday night is OK with me. I’m going to drink every time Obama says “Bush and McCain’s failed poli-suhs”.

I’ll reserve a room at the ER in advance.

forest on September 26, 2008 at 12:16 PM

I am waiting, Sen. McCain has really done some interesting things in this campaign. I am just going to watch.

Cindy Munford on September 26, 2008 at 12:16 PM

The debate doesn’t matter, tonight or ever.

Why even hold it? The Obamedia script has already been written. McCain lost.

Gilda on September 26, 2008 at 12:16 PM

I would ASSUME that since Grahamesty spoke about Acorn last night and he is permanently glued to McCain’s ass…then, McCain is well aware of the democrat/acorn add-in. I hope he uses it against Obama in the debate.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Barack Obama and John McCain already have jobs, and in a crisis, that’s where they should focus.

What job has Obama actually been doing the past three years?

JammieWearingFool on September 26, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 12:14 PM

But, for those who care about the debates, would it have made a difference if the debate went on tonight or Tuesday next week? If so, why?

progressoverpeace on September 26, 2008 at 12:17 PM

If nothing else, McCain went to Washington to reload…

right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Well according to the punditocracy, including many conservatives, and many commenters here, the debate trumps all.

Gosh, I guess us knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing troglodytes out here in flyover country should listen to our betters, shouldn’t we?

thirteen28 on September 26, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Sorry Ed. One can argue the merits of the value of having these debates. But since McCain already committed to them, he should be following through. I for one would have been embarrassed by him if he had backed out. Obama has it right…Presidents should be able to multi-task, and this has been on his calendar for a very long time. McCain would have came off as a coward…at least to me.

asc85 on September 26, 2008 at 12:18 PM

I hope I’m wrong, but McCain giving in for a debate was his first significant mistake of campaign.

Shivas Irons on September 26, 2008 at 12:08 PM

Disagree. He shows he knows the importance of both. He can multi-task. The MSM can’t scream derisively all next week about it. He can get back to work in a couple of hours. He is relentless and NOT showing his age. I could go on…

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 12:18 PM

What job has Obama actually been doing the past three years?

JammieWearingFool on September 26, 2008 at 12:17 PM

GOOD POINT! Does he even know where the senate meets?

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:19 PM

McCain’s correct to manage BOTH, legislative effort and campaign debate. Obama is going to get creamed tonight so long as McCain plays his own game and casts leftist propaganda in its own recorded doom lime-light.

I agree that Republicans owe no debt to play Charlie Brown to Pelosi’s LUCY.

I also see this 2008 economic catastrophe as far worse in coming effect than the Islamofascist Terrorism attacks of 9-11-01 if today does not mark some measure of “positive solution” for public scrutiny.

If ever Fiscal Conservatives needed clout, the moment is now.

Cut the bail-out deal ohne pork to keep American credit viable.

I was absolutely against the bail-out as Paulson so poorly presented our nation’s approach last Friday. But this entire week has been spent not merely diagnosing what brought us to this ugly point in time, BUT WHAT WE MUST DO NOW. If in fact, doing nothing because of a political stalemate pushes us over the precipice this weekend, then by all means, pursue a fiscally responsible LIMITED bail-out that permits no pork.

As the Democrats hold the votes to pass something, the Conservatives had better bond together to use surgical precision to eliminate PORK from the deal.

And to hell with Obama the Negate.

maverick muse on September 26, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Which media outlet is broadcasting the debate?

Les in NC on September 26, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Friday night is OK with me. I’m going to drink every time Obama says “Bush and McCain’s failed poli-suhs”.

I’ll reserve a room at the ER in advance.

forest on September 26, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Hook up to an IV…you’re arm will fall off trying to keep up.

right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Jim Lehrer: Mr. McCain, Do you want America to go back to Slavery and WHY do you hate blacks?

Leher: Senator Obama, the first black Senator in modern history of the United States of America, who’s your favorite Chicago basketball team?

originalpechanga on September 26, 2008 at 12:19 PM

I’m glad Hopey/Changey has had a
screwed up couple of days,thanks
to McCains Pysc Op deployment!!hehe.

canopfor on September 26, 2008 at 12:20 PM

I would ASSUME that since Grahamesty spoke about Acorn last night and he is permanently glued to McCain’s ass…then, McCain is well aware of the democrat/acorn add-in. I hope he uses it against Obama in the debate.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:16 PM

McCain needs to make a clear and simple statement about the ACORN/Obama connection – so clear that Obama can’t deny it and so simple that the average voter can understand it immediately.

Is that possible?

Marybeth on September 26, 2008 at 12:21 PM

I’ll reserve a room at the ER in advance.

forest on September 26, 2008 at 12:16 PM

You might want to reserve a cot in the trauma center.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Another Democrap Senator, Brown, an member of the Banking Committee – Just on Fox blaming the entire mess ON THE REPUBLICANS.

I CANNOT believe the BALLS on these scum!

FiveWays on September 26, 2008 at 12:21 PM

flyoverland on September 26, 2008 at 12:06 PM

McCain wanted 10, he was lucky to get Obama to agree to 3, and so he took what he could.

right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 12:22 PM

I hope so, Marybeth. I hope so.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 12:14 PM

But, for those who care about the debates, would it have made a difference if the debate went on tonight or Tuesday next week? If so, why?

progressoverpeace on September 26, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Not at all. Moving it would have been fine. Political junkies/pundits may see no value in it but “regular folk” still do, I think. My comment was on value only, not timing. I think cancelling indefinately would have been a big mistake.

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 12:22 PM

What exactly is McCain’s role in staving off the financial crisis. Anybody has any info on what he’s been doing since he made that speech at the Clinton Initiative? What is his position regarding the bailout? Is he with Paulson or Boehner? Does he have some proposals of his own? How is Admiral McCain showing leadership in this battle?

factoid on September 26, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Bet: This debate will not be about foreign policy. It will be how the money spent on Iraq could have solved the financial crisis and we should have spent the money that we borrowed from China at home.

The Democrats and the MSM have already framed it as such. Even Obama said something to the effect that he and McCain need to have the debate because one of them will be dealing with this mess in 4 months.

There will be no foreign policy debate. That is why Obama is forcing it now… because no one will question it when they don’t discuss foreign policy.

Damiano on September 26, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Presidents should be able to multi-task, and this has been on his calendar for a very long time. McCain would have came off as a coward…at least to me.

asc85 on September 26, 2008 at 12:18 PM

You’re joking, right? TV debates are not tasks that rise to the level of being part of “Presidential multi-tasking”. McCain would be willing to debate B Hussein every day, about any topics, until the election. Do you actually think with that brain?

progressoverpeace on September 26, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Meanwhile, Obama is off working out at the gym this morning trying to stave off the hyperventilating caused by his fear of a foreign policy debate with a candidate who didn’t have to spend the last week learning foreign policy.

Connie on September 26, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Foreign policy debate?
Let’s see, McCain believes in a strong defense, but given his personal experience + 2 sons in the military won’t rush to war. The Obamassiah believes everything wrong in the world is the US’s fault.

End of the foreign policy debate. Now Sen. Obama, how about getting back to your day job, and in case you need a hint, it isn’t the one of running for President for Life, it is the one where you are merely one of a hundred.

rbj on September 26, 2008 at 12:24 PM

flyoverland

The date was set a year ago. The date is set.

Enjoy the high school football game. Go out to dinner if you have the appetite tonight. Follow the debate via recorded technology when you get home.

no problem except for the economic crisis at hand, that’s all…

maverick muse on September 26, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Not at all. Moving it would have been fine. Political junkies/pundits may see no value in it but “regular folk” still do, I think. My comment was on value only, not timing. I think cancelling indefinately would have been a big mistake.

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Ol’ Miss would have had a bird…they spent 5 million on this baby…I’m sure money well spent…2 microphones, check. Where does 5 million go? No wonder we are drowning in debt…..

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:24 PM

originalpechanga on September 26, 2008 at 12:19 PM

That’s not only lame but also pretty unfair to Lehrer. He is just about as impartial as it gets: the guy hasn’t even voted for the last 25 years because it would be a conflict of interest.

factoid on September 26, 2008 at 12:25 PM

What benefit from holding this debate tonight outweighs the need to oversee that kind of risk?

From the left-wing liberal media’s point of view, this is the BENEFIT THEY DEMANDED. Let’s not forget who’s in charge of this election process fur-kriss-sakes. Why can’t these stubborn problem solving Republicans understand this?

Rovin on September 26, 2008 at 12:25 PM

Presidents should be able to multi-task, and this has been on his calendar for a very long time. McCain would have came off as a coward…at least to me.

asc85 on September 26, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Then why did Obama return to Washington instead of locking himself in his hotel to “practice” for the debate- like his originally intended? Why didn’t Obama just phone in to Washington AND practice?

FiveWays on September 26, 2008 at 12:25 PM

factoid on September 26, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Visit Ace.

maverick muse on September 26, 2008 at 12:26 PM

Like Obama working out and then showering when John McCain was meeting with house republicans…..and then getting ready to fly to Mississippi?

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:27 PM

McCain would have came off as a coward…at least to me.

asc85 on September 26, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Coward? I don’t think so. Making the wrong decision maybe, but even the liberals don’t think he’s scared to debate. You may want to rethink that statement.

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 12:28 PM

My comment was on value only, not timing. I think cancelling indefinately would have been a big mistake.

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 12:22 PM

Okay, I hear you. Cancellation was never the plan, though. McCain loves debating.

progressoverpeace on September 26, 2008 at 12:29 PM

I think it’s crucial the debate go on, and TONIGHT is the PERFECT time.

The American people need to be informed EXACTLY what is going on in Washington right now. What caused this, what the options are to fix it, that there was no agreement yesterday, em’s saying there was an agreement was a TOTAL lie, that the dem’s are trying to funnel 20% of any profits form this to groups like ACORN rather than to pay off the national debt, etc.

McCain needs to speak DIRECTLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TONIGHT.

Every person who cares about the future of our country needs to be praying that McCain speaks clearly tonight before and during the debate, and that Americans see what we need to see.

JustTruth101 on September 26, 2008 at 12:29 PM

McCain just robbed Obambi from several crucial days of debate rehearsal. Let’s see if Obambi really can multitask.
Brilliant move Maverick!

FiveWays on September 26, 2008 at 12:09 PM

Yep, I totally agree. McCain needs no preparation for this debate, he could do it in his sleep. Obama on the other hand desperately needed LOTS of prep time and he didn’t get it because of McCain’s move on Washington. I expect Obama will have a very weak performance tonight and just maybe American’s will see just how lame Obama and his ideas really are.

Maxx on September 26, 2008 at 12:29 PM

The debate should be changed into a forum where the moderators and two candidates agree to educate Americans on the crisis. Agree that both parties could have done more to prevent this and lay out the current situation as both men understand things. Obama can then talk about how important it is to get ACORN Pork and McCain can say why that makes no sense.

econavenger on September 26, 2008 at 12:32 PM

What Einstein came up with Friday night as a good night for a debate? Out here in Flyoverland, Friday night is hgh school football night. Its still payday for a lot of people which means its the one night of the week to eat out. It is shopping night for people who work for a living. Its drive the kids somewhere night. Other than Saturday night, I can’t think of a more stupid day of the week for an important debate.

flyoverland on September 26, 2008 at 12:06 PM

I don’t know, but it’s important and I’ll be watching. What a way to spend my birthday!

Oink on September 26, 2008 at 12:32 PM

What I would like to see happen just once at the debate tonight:

B.O.: “Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech Flowery Speech!”

McCain: “See, there you go again.”.

pilamaye on September 26, 2008 at 12:33 PM

TV debates are not tasks that rise to the level of being part of “Presidential multi-tasking”.

progressoverpeace on September 26, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Now wait a minute. This is hard stuff for some candidates. In fact, Barry has worked very hard on his prep for the debate. Being summoned to Washington may be his excuse for being off his game tonight. He’ll probably be tired too. Maybe he can nap between responses.

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 12:34 PM

Wouldn’t it be nice if a deal is finalized before the debate tonight and McCain gets the credit for bringing the republicans back to the table?

csdeven on September 26, 2008 at 12:34 PM

Hey, here’s an original thought: Why not turn this into an actual DEBATE – for the first time in 40 years.

Instead of those retarded media sound-bite questions, real debates have something called a “resolution.”

In this case, the resolution would have to do with the market bailout. If the government is going to spend $700 billion in one week, then doesn’t the public deserve to see a coherent airing on the subject, with both plans carefully laid out and defended so that WE can then have some input into the situation?

Oh. What the Hell was I thinking? Of course not.

logis on September 26, 2008 at 12:35 PM

Okay, so the GOP came out and made their statement.

Nothing about Reid…a retort, nothing.

We need to check for backbones here…we need to fight for what we believe, not capitulate to the dems. I’m afraid the senators are going to quiet the rep. house that are opposing this debacle.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:37 PM

Fox News set on the DVR already…..

PLEASE Johnny Mac, wipe your A$$ with this poser clown….all I can remember is when Hillary finally starting attacking how Hussein Obama packed up his toys and left…..let’s see how many “above my pay grades” we can get and turn this and head for home plate in 38 days!

SDarchitect on September 26, 2008 at 12:38 PM

What Einstein came up with Friday night as a good night for a debate?
flyoverland on September 26, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Probably Team Obama hoping no one would watch. Then the MSM could spin it all in his favor later.

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 12:38 PM

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 12:14 PM

But, for those who care about the debates, would it have made a difference if the debate went on tonight or Tuesday next week? If so, why?

progressoverpeace on September 26, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Yes it would. Because the MSM would spin it that McCain doesn’t have the leadership skills necessary to get a bailout deal done. That’s the whole reason he went to DC, correct? To “reach across party lines” because he’d rather miss the debate than see his country go down in financial ruin. And they’d also throw in that he’s indecisive for pulling out then getting back into the debate.

That’s what people – people who care about the debates but aren’t political junkies – that Mr_Magoo is referring to would hear for the next month.

BowHuntingTexas on September 26, 2008 at 12:40 PM

Okay, so the GOP came out and made their statement.

Nothing about Reid…a retort, nothing.

We need to check for backbones here…we need to fight for what we believe, not capitulate to the dems. I’m afraid the senators are going to quiet the rep. house that are opposing this debacle.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:37 PM

I am so f#cking sick of the Republicans rolling over and playing nice. USELESS!

FiveWays on September 26, 2008 at 12:41 PM

Having been a mortgage industry lobbyist for over ten years, I cannot begin to tell you how ignorant most members of Congress and their staffs are about this business and how it works. The vast majority of Congressional staff do not own a home and have never even been through the process of getting a mortgage. They have never understood underwriting, secondary markets, or capital markets in general. This led to Democrats believing that the government could just order banks and Fannie and Freddie to make more loans to people who were not qualified under normal underwriting. It led them to believe that there was no need for a uniform national standard for subprime lending and there was no problem allowing 50 states to try to regulate a trillion dollar company like Countrywide.

rockmom on September 26, 2008 at 12:41 PM

What is wrong with these mealy-mouthed fools?? I am so ticked. They couldn’t look any weaker. Just let Reid and Pelosi, lie and lie again. Nothing, they have nothing to say.

anniekc on September 26, 2008 at 12:41 PM

BowHuntingTexas on September 26, 2008 at 12:40 PM

Yea, there’s no end to the ways they can spin stuff. I guess it would have been a lose-lose for McCain no matter what.

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 12:43 PM

I think this debate is going to be a joke. Most of America will be at the movies. McCain and Obama are just going to make speeches and recite their pre-rehearsed zingers and sound bites.

rockmom on September 26, 2008 at 12:43 PM

I am so f#cking sick of the Republicans rolling over and playing nice. USELESS!

FiveWays on September 26, 2008 at 12:41 PM

Agreed. The dems are SO DAMN NASTY, especially Harry Reid. Harry Reid is living proof that God is a prankster.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM

But the polls!

Jim Treacher on September 26, 2008 at 12:45 PM

The current high level of hysteria on both sides is caused by the efficiency of communication via the ‘net. We’re all being exposed to facts, lies, spin and rumor at a dizzying clip, and are allowed to comment and argue based on what we want to believe. With the emotional exhaustion created by the prolonged primaries, every event is deemed one of earthshaking magnitude in order to maintain attention of an audience, for at least 24 hours, till the newest, even more earthshaking event is birthed. We’re prey to our own emotionalism.

a capella on September 26, 2008 at 12:46 PM

Please!!

If there absolutely MUST be a debate tonight, then put Obama and McCain in a room in the Capitol, bring in the moderator and a camera and debate on live TV.

It’s not rocket science, and it doesn’t have to be a “celebrity event”.

sdillard on September 26, 2008 at 12:46 PM

SHHHHHH! We haven’t seen a poll this morning.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Mitch McConnell just gave a great statement, if the media will cover it (I watched it live on Bloomberg.) He said three times that it was a good thing that both Obama and McCain came to Washington yesterday, because it helped the general public to see how critical this situation is. He said he was very optimistic that the rescue can be completed this weekend. He appointed Sen. Gregg to negotiate for Senate Republicans. Gregg reiterated that there was no deal yestreday and nothing was “blown up,” and they are still working off of the plan that was discussed yesterday.

rockmom on September 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM

The pessimist says:

I think this debate is going to be a joke. Most of America will be at the movies. McCain and Obama are just going to make speeches and recite their pre-rehearsed zingers and sound bites.
rockmom on September 26, 2008 at 12:43 PM

And the Optimist says:

Fox News set on the DVR already…..PLEASE Johnny Mac, wipe your A$$ with this poser clown….all I can remember is when Hillary finally starting attacking how Hussein Obama packed up his toys and left…..let’s see how many “above my pay grades” we can get and turn this and head for home plate in 38 days!
SDarchitect on September 26, 2008 at 12:38 PM

wise_man on September 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM

debates exist to produce sound bites, not public policy. They’re a game show aimed at people who don’t pay attention to policy and make up their minds by determining who delivers the best comeback.

That’s one of the saddest, truest things I’ve heard all day.

Hopefully McCain will take the time tonight to explain; Obama’s connections to ACORN, ACORNs connections to the proposed bill, voter fraud, more shaky loans, and lack of change.

Not too mention how the Democrats got us in this mess to begin with! The MSM ain’t gonna do their jobs. Pathetic. It takes a lot to make me angry. I’m getting angry over all the lies of the Dems and the lying by omission by ABCBSNBC

Ordinary1 on September 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM

That’s what people – people who care about the debates but aren’t political junkies – that Mr_Magoo is referring to would hear for the next month.

BowHuntingTexas on September 26, 2008 at 12:40 PM

You are probably correct – given the polling numbers hotair is posting all over about the debate. But, if that is really the case, that postponing a debate to work on such an important problem (and McCain must be one of the most prolific, and skilled, crafters of bipartisan bills, if not the most) would turn some voters towards the emptiness of BHO then we are truly sunk.

progressoverpeace on September 26, 2008 at 12:48 PM

I think this debate is going to be a joke. Most of America will be at the movies. McCain and Obama are just going to make speeches and recite their pre-rehearsed zingers and sound bites.

rockmom on September 26, 2008 at 12:43 PM

Yep. It isn’t going to change anything, and I doubt Obama does as badly as people hope. It’s all show biz.

a capella on September 26, 2008 at 12:49 PM

Is anyone listening to Rush? There seems to be a lot more to this meeting in the White House. It looks like Obama made the gaffe and made the situation even worse. Must post the audio up.

jencab on September 26, 2008 at 12:49 PM

Yes, have the damn debate. But, at this point stop with the foreign policy questions and let us have a real debate on this crisis and what the hell these two guy that want to be president want to do about it. And, at least we know that Sen. McCain is willing to get down in trenches and get dirty. Sen. Messiah Barack is “call me if you need me” and has no interest in formulating policy. And thus, Sen. Messiah Barack can easily say, in true Alfred E. Neumann fashion, “Who, me?” I would also say, read John Poderetz and Fred Barnes on how this stupid debate system became what it is. I was and still with Sen. McCain. Town halls every week. Oh, but where will the teleprompter be for Sen. Messiah Barack?!

righty64 on September 26, 2008 at 12:50 PM

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