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Debate commissioner: If McCain doesn’t show, it’s cancelled; Update: McCain says he’ll be there; Update: AP poll says public wants debate to go on, 60/22

posted at 11:05 am on September 26, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Ole Miss wants a townhall with The One if Maverick bails, but don’t expect the Debate Commission to participate, says Frank Fahrenkopf. To do so would constitute an in-kind campaign contribution. Where would that leave us tonight, though? If Obama’s willing and the university’s willing and the networks (surely) are willing, can’t they just usher Jim Lehrer and Commission personnel out the door and go on with the show?

Probably a moot question: Grahamnesty’s already lowering the bar for what needs to happen on the hill today to get McCain to go. And Obama’s encouraging him not to be, ahem, “fearful.”

Update: Just into my inbox, half an hour before Fahrenkopf’s noon deadline, the inevitable announcement that Maverick will not, in fact, be ceding a national spotlight to Barack Obama.

Statement By McCain Campaign On Negotiations

John McCain’s decision to suspend his campaign was made in the hopes that politics could be set aside to address our economic crisis.

In response, Americans saw a familiar spectacle in Washington. At a moment of crisis that threatened the economic security of American families, Washington played the blame game rather than work together to find a solution that would avert a collapse of financial markets without squandering hundreds of billions of taxpayers’ money to bailout bankers and brokers who bet their fortunes on unsafe lending practices.

Both parties in both houses of Congress and the administration needed to come together to find a solution that would deserve the trust of the American people. And while there were attempts to do that, much of yesterday was spent fighting over who would get the credit for a deal and who would get the blame for failure. There was no deal or offer yesterday that had a majority of support in Congress. There was no deal yesterday that included adequate protections for the taxpayers. It is not enough to cut deals behind closed doors and then try to force it on the rest of Congress — especially when it amounts to thousands of dollars for every American family.

The difference between Barack Obama and John McCain was apparent during the White House meeting yesterday where Barack Obama’s priority was political posturing in his opening monologue defending the package as it stands. John McCain listened to all sides so he could help focus the debate on finding a bipartisan resolution that is in the interest of taxpayers and homeowners. The Democratic interests stood together in opposition to an agreement that would accommodate additional taxpayer protections.

Senator McCain has spent the morning talking to members of the Administration, members of the Senate, and members of the House. He is optimistic that there has been significant progress toward a bipartisan agreement now that there is a framework for all parties to be represented in negotiations, including Representative Blunt as a designated negotiator for House Republicans. The McCain campaign is resuming all activities and the Senator will travel to the debate this afternoon. Following the debate, he will return to Washington to ensure that all voices and interests are represented in the final agreement, especially those of taxpayers and homeowners.

Do we know yet which proposal, exactly, McCain supports? Or is he going to leave off at having gotten the House GOP back to the table to discuss “taxpayer protections”?

Update: Sounds like the latter. “We need a deal. We need a deal. We need a deal.”

John McCain made an urgent appeal to House Republicans at their 9:30 leadership meeting Friday morning.

A senior House GOP leadership aide involved in the negotiations described McCain’s message this way, “We need a deal. We need a deal. We need a deal.”…

House Republicans seem poised to cave on this (says one House Republican, “We don’t want to be seen as obstructionists”), although they have been assured that some of their ideas can be incorporated into the final deal.

Specifically, House GOP leaders want the bill to include federal mortgage insurance as an alternative to the wholesale buying of mortgage securities.

Update: Geraghty thinks McCain should have skipped it, camped out at the Capitol, and delivered progress reports for the GOP while The One floundered at a townhall meeting. I disagree. Hill Democrats would have spent the evening howling about how McCain’s presence has only made things worse and Obama doubtless would have used the time at the townhall to push his own economic plan. We’ve had no fewer than three polls thus far show that majorities wanted the debate to go on. The public will want to know why McCain couldn’t have spared a few hours and he won’t have a good answer.

Update: Make that four polls. A new one from the AP shows a 60/22 split on whether the debate should go on.


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I hope McCain recognizes his “friend” Harry Reid…..

Harry Reid reminded me of a high school boy trying to get lucky….”Well, I’m not going to name names…..uh…

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:44 AM

We need a deal?

No, we don’t.

It’s the democrats ball, it’s the democrats game, let them play it.

rockhauler on September 26, 2008 at 11:45 AM

Alcohol poising is serious business.

carbon_footprint on September 26, 2008 at 11:43 AM

True, that trip to the hospital cost a BUNCH! Can’t afford it right now. May have to stumble…

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:45 AM

Is a load of BS. Who with a brain can’t see it for what it is?

jbh45 on September 26, 2008 at 11:12 AM

Believe me, there are plenty od Scarecrows in this country who could use a brain.

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 11:46 AM

Anybody up for “My Friends” shot game?????

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:40 AM
Now, now, no need to get suicidal!

Citizen Duck on September 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM

Nooo…suicidal would be UH UHHS and UM UHHMS

Another possibility: “Let me be clear..”

Or “I’ve always said”

tru2tx on September 26, 2008 at 11:46 AM

It’s the democrats ball, it’s the democrats game, let them play it.

rockhauler on September 26, 2008 at 11:45 AM

Like a monkei f’ing…oh, that is monkey f’ing a football.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:46 AM

This is the best election ever

lodge on September 26, 2008 at 11:47 AM

Nooo…suicidal would be UH UHHS and UM UHHMS

Another possibility: “Let me be clear..”

Or “I’ve always said”

tru2tx on September 26, 2008 at 11:46 AM

……………ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNDDDD!

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:47 AM

Monkei on September 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM

Ummm… exactly?

Obama has been running scared for the better part of 6 months. McCain has had nothing to hide, and has been pleading with Obama for more debates. McCain is coming from a much higher ground in this regard.

Abby Adams on September 26, 2008 at 11:47 AM

But I’m still not happy if the last 48 hours was a “stunt”.

Skywise on September 26, 2008 at 11:40 AM

Well, lets go ahead a assume “the worst,” lets say it was nothing more than a “stunt” by the McCain camp. If that’s true, alls fair baby, it was brilliant!!

Maxx on September 26, 2008 at 11:48 AM

I’d bet McCain planned to attend all along. Just got Obama rattled by dragging him to DC and keeping him in suspense. That and the lack of a teleprompter for Obama should make for Must See TV.

Wethal on September 26, 2008 at 11:48 AM

We need a deal, certainly, but do we need a deal that invests so much in one person, the national treasurer? The argument against the GOP House plan is that it is cumbersome and slow, whereas Paulson’s plan has swiftness and flexibility. That seems to me an argument for a dictatorship and against democracy.

If McCain and Obama vote for this transfer of power, they better announce their Treasury Secretary nominees, who will be far more important in the first days of the winner’s administration than the Vice President.

Terrie on September 26, 2008 at 11:48 AM

Oh Gawd…don’t mention the amnesty debacle, Perino.

Gosh, I miss Tony Snow.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:48 AM

I don’t believe that the debate will be held to that forum. I am sure they will find a way to to get the current situation into, on a national security basis alone.

Cindy Munford on September 26, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Oh yeah… “Senator McCain. Speaking of the foreign policy on Iran, the US is supporting economic sanctions which restricts Iran’s credit markets… similar to what the US is experiencing now. Should the US be engaging in these types of tactics?”

“Senator Obama, Hugo Chavez is offering free oil to the poor people here in the US in our time of economic need. Should the US be doing the same with its oil reserves?”

“Senator McCain. What symbol am I holding up on the back of this card?”
“two wavy lines?”
“Sorry, this just isn’t your day…” BZZZZZTTTTTT.

Skywise on September 26, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Like a monkei f’ing…oh, that is monkey f’ing a football.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:46 AM

You said “monkey”… raaaaaaacist!

Abby Adams on September 26, 2008 at 11:50 AM

AP — You’re going to base your opinion regarding McCain’s Washington activities on some spin-filled blog-note from ABC?

Shame on you.

It’s not “caving” if you get your side’s concerns addressed.

Personally, I’d rather see the bailout go down in flames, but it seems inevitable that the goons in DC are all stoked up over the chance to waste a big pile of our money and intend to do it no matter what. In that case, I want every safeguard that can be added. Plus the immediate and total removal of ACORN from this or any other federal handouts.

MrScribbler on September 26, 2008 at 11:50 AM

Removing Acorn? You’ll have to remove Chris Dodd…and Harry Reid made it VERY CLEAR that that baffoon would be included in negotiations. Watch the Dems…you might get amnesty tagged onto to this debacle…

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:52 AM

One question I have is how much this pulling Obama to Washington threw off his debate prep? I am not privy to his schedule over the past two days but he was in FL prepping and had to come to DC to the White House meeting and generally disrupt whatever prep he had going on. More advantage for McCain? Not that he needed any.

tarheelcon on September 26, 2008 at 11:52 AM

Sssssssssspop! Yep, that was a can of whooooop-ass that was just opened!

LMAO! Gym first, not the people! WOW!

They are terrified as to what McCain is going to say tonight. Leher has said that he will allow the opening statements or questions to address the economy. LOL! KO’d in the first round!

freeus on September 26, 2008 at 11:53 AM

What is wrong with obstructing a bad bill?
I will never understand these politicians…just go out and say they won’t sign onto anything that is a “bad deal”. Just state that you don’t trust the people who got into this mess, is now trying to “deal” their way out…and you don’t trust them, the people don’t trust them.
Just say we need a couple of more days to correct what has taken years to create, and that you want to make sure the foxes don’t eat anymore hens…you might want to slide this in.
“You don’t trust Barney Franks, he has a habit of pushing things down other peoples throats, and you will not allow him to sneak anything in through the back door.”

right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 11:53 AM

He was hiding in Florida, canoodling with his teleprompter, explaining that he just could not take her to Mississippi. Advantage McCain…Saddleback!

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:54 AM

For those of you saying the debate is a farce, all show, etc. please keep in mind that many independents and undecideds will watch the debate and learn about these candidates from them.

For the politically astute, they may be useless, but not so much for mainstream America. And these are the people who need to see both candidates in this type of structured environment. I know – I have been married to a debate watcher for 34 years. She ignores everything else and decides based on these debates. Maybe right – maybe wrong – but it is what it is. So please don’t sell the debates short.

That is all… continue about your business.

Mr_Magoo on September 26, 2008 at 11:55 AM

The McCain campaign is resuming all activities and the Senator [McCain] will travel to the debate this afternoon. Following the debate, he will return to Washington to ensure that all voices and interests are represented in the final agreement, especially those of taxpayers and homeowners.

Bingo… just as I thought.

Maxx on September 26, 2008 at 11:55 AM

Victor Davis Hanson:

Watching the politicians fight over the “plan” is like watching a lifetime smoker with cancer in his 11th hour questioning the value of his toxic chemotherapy.

Read the whole post.

Terrie on September 26, 2008 at 11:56 AM

I’d bet McCain planned to attend all along. Just got Obama rattled by dragging him to DC and keeping him in suspense. That and the lack of a teleprompter for Obama should make for Must See TV.

Wethal on September 26, 2008 at 11:48 AM

Could be his tactic. Surely it’s had to have some negative impact on the ONE because he’s missed so much of his cramming, hasn’t been able to call all the shots since he is ~alledgedly~ a control freak, no doubt just put him off balance.

Hehe – O’s making a statement right now on his plane and he actually looks a bit green and uneasy. Lotsa uh uhs.

tru2tx on September 26, 2008 at 11:56 AM

Nooo…suicidal would be UH UHHS and UM UHHMS

Another possibility: “Let me be clear..”

Or “I’ve always said”

tru2tx on September 26, 2008 at 11:46 AM

oooooooh, that was good

I think what McCain ought to do next time Obama says “I’ve always said”, is to come back with “I’ve always done”

YellowDawg on September 26, 2008 at 11:57 AM

“You don’t trust Barney Franks, he has a habit of pushing things down other peoples throats, and you will not allow him to sneak anything in through the back door.”

right2bright on September 26, 2008 at 11:53 AM

How dare you make fun of Frank’s sexual orientation?!

Abby Adams on September 26, 2008 at 11:58 AM

I think he’s got a frog in his throat…oh no, just an UH.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:58 AM

I agree with McCain. This bailout deal could have been discussed without Frank, Dodd, Reid and Shelby hyperventilating all over our screens.

lodge on September 26, 2008 at 11:58 AM

Hehe – O’s making a statement right now on his plane and he actually looks a bit green and uneasy. Lotsa uh uhs.

tru2tx on September 26, 2008 at 11:56 AM

Yeah. I likehe way he said that he needs the GREAT DEBATE to explain this situation to people and what he wants to do. If I were one of the reporters I would have asked him why he thinks it’s so hard for him to get on TV or in print to tell the public anything he wants.

BHO is too dumb for words.

progressoverpeace on September 26, 2008 at 11:59 AM

No cookies for you, Abby. No dinner either.

LMAO

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:59 AM

I would love to McCain say tonight “Rep Frank and Sen Dodd should both recluse themselves because of apparent conflict of interest”. And just leave it at that.

huckleberryfriend on September 26, 2008 at 12:01 PM

Do debates really matter? Obama could poop his pants and his nutbag followers would still spam every poll showing he won by 60%.

Speedwagon82 on September 26, 2008 at 12:01 PM

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:59 AM

What? What did I do? Lil’ ol’ me??? ;-)

Abby Adams on September 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM

What do you get when leaders are no longer interested in serving the country, and the people are kept in the dark (largely by choice)about their leaders?

The perfect storm.

I’m glad the debates will go on, but at what cost?

Does doom begin in earnest today?

Dorvillian on September 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM

McCain will destroy Obama in the debate. I don’t know why Obama is so eager to get destroyed.

Obama wants to deflect attention away from the fact that McCain is actually playing a role in negotiating this financial legislation and he’s not. He’s also bought into the delusion that if he can just not get completely killed in tonight’s debate that it will be a victory for him. Personally, I think he’s going to be squashed like a bug, but the media will spin it as an Obama victory, and people who didn’t watch the debate will be tricked into thinking Obama won.

eyedoc on September 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Great! On Fox, they just asked about McCain and Obama after the debate. The response by Garrett was McCain is going back to DC. Obama plans to “be available”.

My sides are splitting….

CC

CapedConservative on September 26, 2008 at 12:03 PM

It’s on

drjohn on September 26, 2008 at 12:06 PM

What? What did I do? Lil’ ol’ me??? ;-)

Abby Adams on September 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Okay, here’s your cookie…a TEN for comedy! Nice.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:06 PM

The alternative of federal mortgage insurance is a terrible idea. Just pass the Paulson plan.

indythinker on September 26, 2008 at 12:07 PM

I guess a workout and a shower was more important than 300 million Americans. I wonder where he will be IF he gets elected and it is 3 am?
Just a second, I’m servicing the wife…so what, the Iranians are always dropping bombs on us.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:08 PM

McCain is SCHOOLING “The One” on what multi-tasking means.

He can also hammer home the way Obama avoids making hard decisions, voting “present” and telling Congress to “call me if you need me”. Obama’s not a bad guy, but he appears to be an empty suit.

connertown on September 26, 2008 at 12:08 PM

McCain will destroy Obama in the debate. I don’t know why Obama is so eager to get destroyed.

He’s running for cover becuz of the ACORN angle in the first bailout option – he would rather get a healthy trouncing at the debate than have the light of day shine on him and his buddies in the Senate and ACORN.

IMO

tru2tx on September 26, 2008 at 12:13 PM

What? What did I do? Lil’ ol’ me??? ;-)

Abby Adams on September 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM

Okay, here’s your cookie…a TEN for comedy! Nice.

HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 12:06 PM

Kudos for comic relief. Earlier today my head felt like it was going to explode. Still might, later, but for now that chuckle relieved some of the pressure! ;-)

tru2tx on September 26, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Just pass the Paulson plan.

No thank you! All that plan does is reward deadbeats and irresponsible corporations. If you want to subsidize the lifestyles of those who live beyond their means- adopt a family and throw money at them but leave me out of this kind of support.

highhopes on September 26, 2008 at 12:16 PM

No bill is better than a bad bill. No reform, no bailout. Congressional Republicans are the only ones looking out for the taxpayer and they were not included in writing up the Paulson Plan.

Angry Dumbo on September 26, 2008 at 12:16 PM

YEAH! The American people are officially worthless pondscum!

A debate is more important, then our own financial problems.

The full dumbing down of America has finally come about.

Hold on folks, we are in for something we have never seen.

TheHat on September 26, 2008 at 12:17 PM

There was no deal yesterday that included adequate protections for the taxpayers. It is not enough to cut deals behind closed doors and then try to force it on the rest of Congress — especially when it amounts to thousands of dollars for every American family.

This was unfortunate phrasing and revived a bad memory. I had almost forgotten McCain-Kennedy immigration reform which appeared out of nowhere, and which John wanted passed immediately without debate.

a capella on September 26, 2008 at 12:20 PM

I don’t know why in the world we should give a rat’s ass about the debate. Obama’s like a schoolboy….I WANNA DEBATE, I WANNA DEBATE…I don’t need to see these guys debate….are they suddenly going to say something we haven’t heard for the last 19 months?

Real life is happening. My bank failed last night.

Obama doesn’t have any standing or real respect in the Senate, because he’s never really worked there. Bill Sammon said that yesterday: He feels uncomfortable there. He’s not needed there, that’s why he can flippantly walk down the corridors swaggering like he has an Ipod in his ear. That’s why he can hardly wait to leave, and study some more for his big debate, like he was still in friggin college. That’s why he’s working out at the gym this am.

Obama likes the idea of work. He just never really ever gets down to it.

Sorry, I’m just so mad. And then there’s the ACORN thing. That should be a scandalous revelation, given Obama’s connection to them.

I say blow off the debate…and after the economic disaster is handled, re-offer the series of town-hall meetings that Obama is so afraid of. Let him say no, and look like a fool.

nyrofan on September 26, 2008 at 12:20 PM

“We need a deal. We need a deal. We need a deal.”

Regardless of what we think of this particular bill, doesn’t this prove McCain’s bona fides in trying to get things done and not just being a lock step partisan. Have we seen anything remotely similar from The Great Uniter trying to get concessions from the Democrats to reach a deal?

Dudley Smith on September 26, 2008 at 12:20 PM

Why do people vilify Bill Ayers for wanting to bomb the Capitol, again?

lodge on September 26, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Do debates really matter? Obama could poop his pants and his nutbag followers would still spam every poll showing he won by 60%.

Actually, I think Ron Paul will win tonight’s debate.

YYZ on September 26, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Why do people vilify Bill Ayers for wanting to bomb the Capitol, again?

lodge on September 26, 2008 at 12:21 PM

He may have been a man ahead of his time. I can’t quite forgive the flag trampling, though.

a capella on September 26, 2008 at 12:24 PM

This debate will be a fiasco. There is NO WAY that they will talk foreign policy/ national security. This will be an economic debate.

I hope McCain shows up with a stack of “WANTED” posters with the pictures of Reid, Dodd, Franks, et al., listing the corruption charges for each, and hands them out to everyone is attendance.

If the Democrats pass the Bail Out ACORN bill, we might as well all move to Iraq. At least they are still trying to have a democracy there.

Damiano on September 26, 2008 at 12:31 PM

Are either McCain or Obama crucial to creating this bailout effort? Probably not. At least McCain is making an effort to seem like he cares about his position in the Senate. Obama says “if you need me I will descend from the heavens, otherwise, I’ve got better things to do”.

thevastlane on September 26, 2008 at 12:32 PM

This is an easy fix. I don’t know why everyone is so uppity about it.

Step 1: Host a hearing against all government officials that had the ability to keep this from happening. Once all of the parties have been identified, offer 3 options: Resignation from public office, Prison, or forced removal from office.

Step 2: Lift drilling ban, this will create extra revenue. Purchase loans from Fannie and Freddie. Disassemble Fannie and Freddie, fire all employees. Allow AIG, Merril-lynch, Countrywide and Lehman Bros. to go up in flames.

Step 3: Lock in loans from Fannie and Freddie. Disallow bankruptcy. Identify loans where loan recipient cannot pay. Give option to recipient of indentured servitude to taxpayers and loss of home or forced loss of home, as well as forced payment flat-rate interest on home by wage garnishment if necessary, as well as forced repayment for any repairs on the home.

Step 4: Resell all newly obtained and repaired homes to individuals that meet the requirements for said homes under fair terms. Provide tax incentives to all financial institutions that purchase these loans.

Step 5: Reinstate all debts against foreign countries that we have previously forgiven. While we’re at it, Let’s send a bill to Iraq for that war, and a bill for the World trade center to any country that has ever been suspected of housing Osama Bin Laden.

Step 6: Boycott OPEC completely. Remove U.N. HQ from our country, place That twisted Islamic bucket of filth, Ahmadinejād on the known terrorist list, and ban him, and his entire family line from entering our country. Withdraw from the U.N. and develop extremely powerful missile defense systems along the coasts of the U.S.

Step 7: Announce that there will be country-wide ID check by dwelling. Those that are here illegally will be given the choice of deportation at the cost of the source country, or if the source country refuses to pay for said deportation, as well as all taxes and wages that were stolen from legitimate American workers in full we can drop the illegal alien into a large body of water near the source country.

Step 8: Terminate our involvement in NAFTA.

That’s how we fix most of the problems in America.

leetpriest on September 26, 2008 at 12:35 PM

I want to participate in a poll measuring how sick the public is of polls.

Jim Treacher on September 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM

This is the best election ever

lodge on September 26, 2008 at 11:47 AM

I agree. This has been such an exciting election. Way too long, but interesting as we watch America decide between voting for Dems cause they are not Repubs. vs. voting McCain for the leadership/experience/bipartisanship that Obama lacks.

If McCain loses, it will probably be because the economy and credit crisis made voters go against the current party of the Executive branch.

Get ready to transfer investments to other currencies if Obama loses. You will NOT want to hold USD for anything other than the next couple of months normal expenses. With NO drilling, huge trade deficit, higher capgains taxes, higher death taxes, our economy will slow down as we slide into a socialist state.

Best way to protest this is to get assets out of the USD and hold debt denominated in USD.

Heck, I even told my Mom and Dad that they need to die before the election so we kids get our inheritance quick given his living trust. :) They chuckled at that.

Sapwolf on September 26, 2008 at 12:57 PM

It’s on.

Go Maverick!

High noon, and the other guy’s wearing the black hat (is that racist?).

Hening on September 26, 2008 at 1:00 PM

I want to participate in a poll measuring how sick the public is of polls.

Jim Treacher on September 26, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Let me be the first to answer your poll question.

Extremely!

thevastlane on September 26, 2008 at 1:04 PM

Rush Limbaugh gave a detailed description of what went down in the White House yesterday on his radio show. Apparently, Pelosi, Reid and the other Democrat Leaders deferred to Obama to lead the discussion. However, instead of acting in a bipartisan manner, Obama decided to rip the Republicans for their policy position on this matter. Obama was suppose to stick to support for the Democrat plan. Instead, he “got in their faces”.

Needless to say,the Republican Leaders led by Boehner responded vigorously to the attack. The meeting was totally derailed by Obama.

One of the items the GOP is having issue with is the amount of money going to ACORN. You might recall ACORN is the vote-fraud promoting group sponsored by Obama.

This meeting was suppose to demonstrate Obama’s leadership skills. I guess it does. Please spread the word, as we need to get the truth out.

Mutnodjmet on September 26, 2008 at 1:15 PM

Mutnodjmet on September 26, 2008 at 1:15 PM

Great story, but with no transcript of the meeting, it will get no attention…

Now, that transcript DOES exist, and Bush is sitting on it.

Romeo13 on September 26, 2008 at 1:19 PM

Needless to say,the Republican Leaders led by Boehner responded vigorously to the attack. The meeting was totally derailed by Obama.

Color me skeptical. The House Republicans had a different plan than the one the Dems, Senate Republicans (maybe) and the administration wanted. I’m not sure how Obama could have derailed the bailout agreement just by being surly.

YYZ on September 26, 2008 at 1:19 PM

Color me skeptical. The House Republicans had a different plan than the one the Dems, Senate Republicans (maybe) and the administration wanted. I’m not sure how Obama could have derailed the bailout agreement just by being surly.

YYZ on September 26, 2008 at 1:19 PM

If these were business people, I’d aggree with you, but these are politicians. They are not rational.. none of em…

I could totaly see Egos coming out and people getting pissy.

A know nothing do nothing 1st time Senator who has not been in on negotiations dressing down one side of a negotiation, would not be… conducive… to aggreement.

Romeo13 on September 26, 2008 at 1:25 PM

The Dems and especially Obama are fighting the cameras and lights in the hopes that they can continue to hide their direct responsibility and promoted their BS narrative of blaming Bush/ McCain.

The GOP needs to hitch up it’s big boy pants, take off the gloves, pull up the soapbox and bully pulpit and start screaming their heads off.

Damiano on September 26, 2008 at 1:33 PM

Obama has been given the debate questions ahead of time.

Calm Before the Storm on September 26, 2008 at 1:51 PM

McCain has the opportunity I think has wanted all along. He has the huge turn in factor for a Friday night debate, mostly on Foreign Policy, but with economics in the mix. Chances are if he had not announced his intent not to go most people would not have watched. Now many more will watch that wouldn’t have, and if Obama does badly, the people will see it.

However, with reward also comes risk! If McCain does badly, a lot more people will see that as well. There are plenty of Indepenants on the fence; they want to vote for McCain, and he needs to give them a reason.

My fear is this; Reps will vote because of Palin; Dems, becasue of The One. Will the Indep, Liber, might stay home if McCain doesn’t come through? If Idenpentent, Libertariian types stay at home, I think it hurts McCain more than it does Obama.

sophiesmom on September 26, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Okay, the dumba$$ public will get the all-important debate. Big whoop.

The average viewer will watch for 90 seconds then flip to Simpsons reruns.

A viewer who actually watches will see canned, poll-tested answers to scripted questions.

The “winner” (as if this were a high-school debate club) will be the most polished and best-spoken candidate, even if he says something like, “I do what the Martians living in my hair tell me to do.”

Anybody who doesn’t know how he or she will vote has (at most) two neurons firing between their ears.
__________

RJGatorEsq. on September 26, 2008 at 4:15 PM

RJGatorEsq. on September 26, 2008 at 4:15 PM

BINGO. The fate of this republic – and the rest of western civilization, for that matter – rests in the hands of 5% to 10% of the electorate who are totally farking clueless.

Flashback to Philadelphia, 1787: “A republic, madam, if you can keep it.”

ManlyRash on September 26, 2008 at 5:24 PM

The GOP needs to hitch up it’s big boy pants, take off the gloves, pull up the soapbox and bully pulpit and start screaming their heads off. – Damiano on September 26, 2008 at 1:33 PM

Agreed. But it won’t.

ManlyRash on September 26, 2008 at 5:25 PM

Hold on folks, we are in for something we have never seen. – TheHat on September 26, 2008 at 12:17 PM

Oh, we’ve seen it before, except that the Confederacy lost.

ManlyRash on September 26, 2008 at 5:28 PM

Who are they polling? I talk with people all around the country and havent found one yet that believes the debate are anything but potical stunts.Most people who vote on records already know for whom they are voting

CaCa on September 26, 2008 at 5:36 PM

Not one to praise McCain regularly, I got to hand it to him this time.

The man is 72 years old. He heads to Washington to jump right into the middle of of the biggest financial crisis’ in American history, when he should be resting and focusing on this debate.

Now he’s headed to the debates after all this stress. These attacks on his age are a complete joke.

The man’s a stud.

Saltysam on September 26, 2008 at 6:26 PM

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