Debate #1 wrap-up; Update: Kissinger repudiates Obama
posted at 11:06 pm on September 26, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Given the uncertainty surrounding the presidential debate tonight, I wasn’t sure exactly what to expect. Both Barack Obama and John McCain have had to fly more than they expected in the last couple of days, and neither got a chance to focus on preparation, at least not to the extent they planned. I figured we’d see at least one major gaffe or breakdown from one of the candidates, and honestly, I wasn’t looking forward to seeing it.
However, I think both men did better than I expected. Neither seemed to show any effects from the hectic pace of the past week, and both appeared ready and relaxed at the start of tonight’s debate. I’d also include Jim Lehrer in that description, even though he had to rewrite part of his script to accommodate the economic crisis. Lehrer gave the debate a light touch as moderator, allowing the candidates plenty of space to talk and encouraging dialogue rather than speechmaking. It was perhaps one of the best presidential debates I’ve seen in this cycle, maybe the best.
With that said, McCain clearly got the best of Obama tonight. After a shaky couple of minutes to start the first question, McCain jabbed at Obama all night long — and he got Obama obviously flustered. While McCain kept his equanimity and never raised his tone or pitch, Obama got visibly upset, his voice pitched higher when responding to McCain, and Obama interrupted more. Obama also kept calling McCain “John” while McCain used the more proper “Senator Obama”, a difference that grated as the evening wore on.
Substantially, McCain also bested Obama on both economics and foreign policy. On the former, it was most apparent when Lehrer asked both candidates what they would cut as President after the bailout package passes. Obama could not bring himself to commit to one single cut, and instead talked about all of the funding he wanted to create for pet programs. McCain noted that he has long championed spending reductions and proposed a spending freeze on all but the most vital programs. When challenged on this point, Obama refused to say whether he would accept a freeze.
I did have a moment of frustration with McCain on the first question, a round I think Obama won. He never challenged Obama’s assumptions that the current credit crisis came from too little regulation. I kept expecting McCain to talk about the disaster of the Community Reinvestment Act, and the mandates from Congress that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac encourage bad lending by buying up bad paper. Instead, he tried to out-populist Obama, and Obama sounds more authentic as a populist.
On foreign policy, Obama did better than expected, but still fell short. I think his response on the decision to go into Iraq was quite good (even if I disagree with it), but he kept trying to argue that he didn’t demand a precipitous withdrawal in 2007 when the record clearly shows he did — and he beat Hillary to death with it in the primaries. McCain drew blood when he pointed out that for all of Obama’s talk about the priority of Afghanistan, he never once bothered to visit that front until last July, even though his Senate subcommittee has jurisdiction on NATO issues. Obama spluttered in response but never did explain why such an important theater wasn’t worth a single visit from him.
On Georgia, Russia, and eastern Europe, McCain proved himself the master of detailed foreign-policy thinking. While Obama talked briefly about the potential for NATO membership for Georgia and Ukraine and pledged to “rebuild Georgia’s economy”, McCain explained the geopolitical realities of the entire region, and Russia’s intentions for it.
If Obama expected the old man to be too tired to debate properly, he is surely disappointed tonight. McCain kept Obama on defense all night long, made Obama lose his composure, and maintained his own in a very presidential performance. This one is a clear win for McCain.
Update: Obama tried to twist out of the “no preconditions” statement by claiming that Henry Kissinger supported it. McCain openly scoffed at the notion, and for good reason — Kissinger didn’t say it:
Henry Kissinger believes Barack Obama misstated his views on diplomacy with US adversaries and is not happy about being mischaracterized. He says: “Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality.”
Either Obama lied, or he’s too inexperienced to understand what Kissinger said and actually meant.
One more point about Obama’s obfuscations about “preparations” as opposed to “preconditions”: he originally said that he would meet with Ahmadinejad, Castro, Kim, and Chavez in his first year in office:
QUESTION: In 1982, Anwar Sadat traveled to Israel, a trip that resulted in a peace agreement that has lasted ever since.
In the spirit of that type of bold leadership, would you be willing to meet separately, without precondition, during the first year of your administration, in Washington or anywhere else, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, in order to bridge the gap that divides our countries?
COOPER: I should also point out that Stephen is in the crowd tonight.
Senator Obama?
OBAMA: I would. And the reason is this, that the notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them — which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration — is ridiculous.
How much “preparation” time would he have?
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They are the Idjit voters – the ones in the middle of the spectrum – who will be deciding the fate of the republic. Drink up!
ManlyRash on September 26, 2008 at 11:46 PM
One thing is obvious. This once great nation has a solid chance of becoming a Marxist/communist country with a far left leader. If that happens, bar the doors because such a condition will not be allowed to stand.
rplat on September 26, 2008 at 11:46 PM
I agree– McCain made the point in a subtle way and said that intentions aren’t broadcast. We were flabbergasted when BO’s outright response to that was that he’d bomb Pakistan. To us, he seemed flustered after realizing what a stupid thing he said.
obladioblada on September 26, 2008 at 11:47 PM
On the Luntz group:
I don’t think there are as many undecideds as the polls suggest. I’ve read too many comments from people claiming to be “undecided” that sound just like left-wing talking points. I’m supposed to believe that after months of campaigning, a relatively academic debate swings undecided voters towards Obama because he “cares” about the average person (implying that McCain doesn’t)?
p.s. Am I the only one who Obama’a “scalpel” and “hatchet” comment reminded me of arguments with liberal college students? I half expected him to go off on a tangent about how conservatives see the world in “black and white” while liberals notice “shades of gray.” Effortlessly arrogant.
Afghan whig on September 26, 2008 at 11:48 PM
In truth, Nina Easton on Fox gave it to McCAin and Fred Barnes seemed to think it was a draw.
I don’t think there was any doubt, McCain won. Obama just lied his ass off up there. One freaking lie after the other.
Terrye on September 26, 2008 at 11:48 PM
I just can’t decide who to vote for? A war hero with lots of experience or a communist with no experience. It’s so hard to decide.
Please, for the love of all that is HOLY, don’t go to the polls. Just pass them by on the way to the bar.
HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:48 PM
When I listen to all the commentators on TV discussing the debate, I remember back to 2000 when they all thought Gore won the debates.
Mark1971 on September 26, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Did you forget, not only is he our candidate, but he is one of the closest things we have to a Democrat?
CC
CapedConservative on September 26, 2008 at 11:49 PM
In case you have not seen it. Here is the McCain ad released within minutes of the debates end. It’s called “McCain is Right”
Nelsa on September 26, 2008 at 11:49 PM
McCain won this one,and there was a point,in which Maverick
was taliking,and I burst out laughing as Hopey began to talk
to himself as McCain was still talking!
There was a point in which Hopey started to become un-glued,
when he mumbled to Lehar,ah,ah I gotta respond!
canopfor on September 26, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Is that the first time a presidential candidate has ever used the word orgy on national television? Just curious.
covel on September 26, 2008 at 11:49 PM
They can make it a federal holiday: 1/20/09
The date we become the United Socialist States of America
paulsur on September 26, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Drinking game classic…drink everytime Gore says “lock box”..blast from the past.
HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Probably; and it was awesome.
Orgies
Poppies
Tea
Bracelets
For everyone!
lorien1973 on September 26, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Vote (toward the bottom of the page)
http://www.politico.com/
indythinker on September 26, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Just saw over at FR per WeeklyStandard that Kissinger was misquoted by Obama:
Henry Kissinger believes Barack Obama misstated his views on diplomacy with US adversaries and is not happy about being mischaracterized. He says: “Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality.”
bobsunshine on September 26, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Sure thing, loud mouth. Here’s the bet:
If Obama is 10+ points ahead of McCain in the Rasmussen national poll on or before 11:59 PM, October 3, I will leave HotAir forever and never post here again.
If Obama is not 10+ points ahead of McCain in the Rasmussen national poll on or before 11:59 PM, October 3, you will leave HotAir forever and never post here again.
Do we have a bet?
ManlyRash on September 26, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Depends on the channel, my Canadian friend. Some networks used the split cam, some didn’t.
Limerick on September 26, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Don’t forget all the Uhs….
HornetSting on September 26, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Honestly, the more Obama reminds people of how dangerous the world is, the more he bolsters McCain’s campaign of experience. I wish McCain had used his convention speech line and hit back at Obama to say, “the choice is clear… if the world is as dangerous a place as Obama says it is, do you want a guy with no experience who’s never served in the military to be in the White House?”
Texas Rainmaker on September 26, 2008 at 11:51 PM
You can go to Intrade.com and put your money where your mouth is… all you want.
CapedConservative on September 26, 2008 at 11:51 PM
I’m with the Captain on this — but Obama got in his licks, especially since, when Obama tried to tar McCain with responsibility for this financial crisis, McCain did not push back with elements of Obama’s responsibility — the first and second dominoes to fall, the ones that pushed all the others over, belonged to Obama’s side. McCain did indicate that the problem needed to be solved and he is part of the solution, but the undeserved mud Obama threw at him I think will stick.
What will follow is several days of media sound bites, and you can bet that McCain won’t be in most of them.
unclesmrgol on September 26, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Now the Obamatards are touting CNN internet polls as proof the Lightworker won!
Speedwagon82 on September 26, 2008 at 11:51 PM
I think back to 2004 when Kerry DID win the debates. Looks who won the election.
Marcus on September 26, 2008 at 11:51 PM
I agree. Beyond that, foreign policy and military really boils down to a handful of people led by the president. The economy boils down to all Americans, not just a president and certainly more so the 535 legislators (most of whom are losers who are hiding in their chambers).
Neither Obama nor McCain is an economic giant. And since when does a guy with Obama’s background automatically get crowned king of economic issues? He’ll wreck our energy policy–we’ll have $8-a-gallon gas and we’ll be rubbing sticks together while Obama is subsidizing myriad alternative energy sources that make no sense.
Foreign diplomacy is critical for a president. What am I missing?
BuckeyeSam on September 26, 2008 at 11:51 PM
ThackerAgency on September 26, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Right, the other 99 members will just jump right on that bandwagon. Pretty funny from a guy whose candidate has gotten a ton of earmark money.
Cindy Munford on September 26, 2008 at 11:51 PM
At first I too was disappointed that Senator McCain didn’t emphasize Barry’s connections with FMae/FMac. But I realized that Senator McCain is once again putting the country first before his own political aspirations.
Negotiations are still ongoing regarding the financial crisis and both Democrats and Republicans have to come to an agreement, and soon. Republicans have proposed an alternate to the completely unconstitutional socialist bailout bill that Paulson wants passed. If this alternate has any chance of gaining Democratic support and eventually passing, Senator McCain had to refrain from antagonizing the Democrats by playing the blame game. (No matter how much blame can be lain at the feet of the Democrat majority in TheMostEthicalCongress.)
Holding back didn’t help Senator McCain win points in the debate, but it does give the Republican alternative plan a chance of gaining Democratic support. A chance for our country to rein in the economic fallout from this financial disaster.
blue sky on September 26, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Re: Krauthammer
Intelligent man, Washington elite. An indispensable commentator who has his own blinders.
obladioblada on September 26, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Another good point,was when McCain mentioned Obama
was the farthest Left,and its pretty hard to reach
that far away across the isle in bipartisonship!
canopfor on September 26, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Overall, McCain came off as more experienced, and less flustered than Obama.
However, Obama was able to at least keep enough composure to avoid a memorable gaffe/mistake.
From my perspective, McCain won it on points a little bit.
But, McCain missed the golden opportunity to nail Obama at the beginning on the bailout plan. He should have whipped a copy of the original plan of Bushes from his back pocket and briefly explained that Obama voted for it and what it’s bs components were, including the ACORN stuff, and actually buying of the loans as opposed to simply giving the banks a cheap loan to assist them with managing the loans gradually off the books.
His BIG chance to tie Obama to the Bush Administration was missed. That could have been very embarassing for Obama.
Sapwolf on September 26, 2008 at 11:52 PM
The most profound aspect of this statement is the glaring irony.
“Hey kids, don’t believe the hype. Only the son of a Kenyan can do what I’m doing.”
Huh?
Saltysam on September 26, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Listening to that on the radio was hilarious!
SkinnerVic on September 26, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Henry Kissinger not happy with Dopey’s lies.
SouthernGent on September 26, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Nonsense. Kerry barely placed second in the debates and there were only two participants.
rplat on September 26, 2008 at 11:53 PM
I slept through it and will catch the replay later… but (partisanship aside) can someone tell me if it’s even worth it? Did McCain give Urkle a wedgie or what?
RightWinged on September 26, 2008 at 11:53 PM
On the Economy, McCain came across much weaker than I would have liked — but there’s a reason.
He couldn’t come out swinging wildly at the Democrats (”I will make them famous, you will know their names!”) — YET. We need to get the deal done, stabilize the situation, and THEN is the time to discuss blame and repercussions.
I still think there’s a good chance he knocks that one out of the park in the next debate —- after the deal is done, after the markets react, after everyone acknowledges that we’ve dodged a bullet.
To go on the attack about that now wouldn’t be putting Country First.
ClintACK on September 26, 2008 at 11:53 PM
McCain certainly did better than I expected. Which is good for someone who is planning on voting for the man like myself because the news of the past few days certainly had me feeling pretty depressed.
Yakko77 on September 26, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Don’t forget to vote at politico.com, msn.com, cnn.com, etc.
davenp35 on September 26, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Internet will be bristling with debunking all his lies tomorrow.
RushBaby on September 26, 2008 at 11:54 PM
WHY isn’t anyone talking about this
“Jim, let me just make a point. I’ve got a bracelet, too.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgNJmrQj9Bg
WOW…. you can hear the crowd go “UGH” when he says “i’ve got a bracelet too”
battleoflepanto1571 on September 26, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Thacker:
You are wrong. For one thing, Mr. Postpartisan spent the first part of the debate demonizing a man he is not running against while completely refusing to deal with the reality of his own record.
For another, I was looking at a split screen and Obama was making faces, getting pissed, mouthing things and in general acting like a flustered little school boy.
This man wants to be the President of the United States. Now if it was the sr class president he might qualify.
Terrye on September 26, 2008 at 11:54 PM
While Mack won, I was very, very disappointed in some of the silliness coming out of his mouth. GREED! I CHAMPION GLOBAL WARMING NONSENSE! GREEEEEEEED!
Beh.
If he wasn’t so darn right on the war and Palin wasn’t his VP, I’d be a lot cooler to him after that nonsense.
VolMagic on September 26, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Well, Thacker?
You man enough to take the bet?
Or are you a pussy?
ManlyRash on September 26, 2008 at 11:54 PM
and when i mean anyone i mean ‘the news’
battleoflepanto1571 on September 26, 2008 at 11:54 PM
Yes I remember that. I wanted Bush to beat Kerry, but I did feel Kerry won. I don’t feel Obama won tonight, I think McCain beat up Obama in the last half.
Spirit of 1776 on September 26, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Read up on Pakistan’s nukes, then consume the NATO concept. Then try thinking.
Patrick S on September 26, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Good point, but lets say a deal is done over the weekend.
But McCain had the opportunity (about 6 minutes total) to present his plan for the bailout and get people to support him and his plan. He did not.
That was unfortunate.
lorien1973 on September 26, 2008 at 11:55 PM
I think I’d have a few readers who might miss me if I left forever. Plus I have too many wonderful clients from this blog to forego the advertisement. But I could see me not posting for a week or so. Not that I think I’m going to lose, but I don’t really want to rail on McCain all the time anyway. . . I don’t like him and never have anyway.
Don’t like Obama either, but I’d hate rewarding McCain with the Presidency.
How about it? A week of being banished for the loser. I know you pro-McCain people can’t stand anything bad said about him anyway so consider it a ‘cease fire’.
ThackerAgency on September 26, 2008 at 11:55 PM
VolMagic:
Independents, he has an election to win.
Terrye on September 26, 2008 at 11:55 PM
The Obamanation is out in force, pushing all the online polls toward Obama. Astroturfering, trolling web sites, regurgitating talking points, threatening opponents with law suits, and stealing yard seem to be their top skill sets.
Loxodonta on September 26, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Get this through your head, we dont need a take over of the banking industry. Recessions are a part of a free enterprise capitolist market.
paulsur on September 26, 2008 at 11:55 PM
“McCain was stuck talking about the past and places he has been.”
Uh, Thacker, you do realize that your candidate got to where he is by running against a 6 yr old vote he wasn’t even in a position to vote on, don’t you?
brainy435 on September 26, 2008 at 11:56 PM
The problem with winning foreign policy is that it doesn’t matter what these people say. They only influence matters indirectly; the state dept handles a lot of that.
If McCain cannot explain his economic message, he can’t win.
Why oh why can’t republicans explain low taxes to people?
lorien1973 on September 26, 2008 at 11:56 PM
You fucking liberals are all alike. Yellow. Pussies. All talk and no balls…just like Bambi.
ManlyRash on September 26, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Thacker:
Why don’t you let other people have their opinions? This sort of thing is subjective for heavens sake, if I thought McCain won, that is what I honestly thought. I was not lying to myself.
Terrye on September 26, 2008 at 11:57 PM
HEY EVERYBODY – This guy says I need to read up on Pakistan. Everyone who has learned something about Pakistan from me in the past year and a half can stop reading now.
NATO is a concept that was disdained by our forefathers because we shouldn’t give up control of our armed forces, nor should we be dragged into a fight due to a conflict that is not in our interests. I can come up with quotes about foreign allegiances. . . but I’m sure you know everything with all you’ve read about Pakistan having nuclear weapons and all.
ThackerAgency on September 26, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Repeating the same thing doesn’t make it right/true. Even an outsider to politics could see that McCain had the facts and the record to back up what he was saying whereas Obama kept denying/defending his bad votes and positions. McCain kept telling America “go check the record/vote” which to me just exudes confidence in your position.
In general Obama seemed flustered at times while McCain seemed sure and knowledgeable.
I wasn’t looking forward to this debate to be honest but I was pleasantly surprised and reassured by McCain’s performance.
Guys, he just looked and sounded like someone who you could rest easy at night knowing he’s in charge.
MechEng5by5 on September 26, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Terrye:
Yes, if it was just pandering for votes, thats one thing. He believes this crud.
(sigh)
VolMagic on September 26, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Terrye on September 26, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Reports were, this evening, that after the debate Sen. McCain was going back to D.C. to work on the financial stuff. If his is really in the mix working on it and Sen. Obama is out campaigning, then he may end up the person with the most information. Wishful thinking on my part.
Cindy Munford on September 26, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Nah. We need head butting here. Screw that pasturized milk stuff.
Limerick on September 26, 2008 at 11:58 PM
MCCAIN STUTTERED MORE SAID ONE OF THE DAMN FOOLS AT THE LUNTZ GROUP. EFF THAT, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?
Cardiganfox on September 26, 2008 at 11:58 PM
I fell off the couch the first minute of McCain’s time when he started off talking about Ted Kennedy and bipartisanship!!
It got a little better the rest of the way but not great!!
120pages on September 26, 2008 at 11:58 PM
I am letting everyone have their opinion. I’ve stated mine and why I have that opinion. I’m unpopular. I just stated my opinion and others can have theirs. I’m all about that.
ThackerAgency on September 26, 2008 at 11:58 PM
lorien:
I thought McCAin was explicit on a lot of economic issues, like tax cuts and a spending freeze…as for the rescue bill neither of them seemed prepared to talk about that, it might have something to do with the fact that there are still discussions going on. Someone jumped the gun on that before and came off looking pretty stupid.
Terrye on September 26, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Thacker thrives on mother’s milk – straight from the tit.
ManlyRash on September 26, 2008 at 11:59 PM
That Kissinger thing might have some teeth in it if Kissinger himself comes out loudly against that statement next week.
Spirit of 1776 on September 26, 2008 at 11:59 PM
McCain is a liberal. Do you think he is a pussy?
paulsur on September 26, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Here’s a little hint. Us dummies who support McVain see this election as a choice between a RINO and a full-bore socialist. There’s no comparison. I cannot allow us to go down the road of the bankrupt, dying European nations.
fiatboomer on September 27, 2008 at 12:00 AM
rplat on September 26, 2008 at 11:41 PM
I don’t get that at all. They talked about past debates and how the elections turned out in a historical perspective. You can’t have them says all positive things about Sen. McCain, they don’t get credit for the good work they really do.
Cindy Munford on September 27, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Ed, you are expecting honesty from Obama on this?
He knows what he said, and what he meant. It turned out to be dumb and unpopular so, presto chango, he never said it like you think he thought he meant. You see?
VolMagic on September 27, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Pussy.
ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 12:00 AM
I thought the killer line from Obama was that Al Queada is still able to release video tapes. I think Millie Vannilli can still release albums, but that doesn’t mean anyone buys them.
Sven on September 27, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Thacker:
No, you are telling us that if we thought McCain won we are full of it and only saying that because we like him…whereas you on the other hand are smart and objective and the final arbiter of who wins and loses and who is right and wrong. etc.
Terrye on September 27, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Don’t fret, we’re tough people and can hand anything you care to say or do. We just thought you’d fit in better at the KOS site . . . and somebody there might even want to listen to you.
rplat on September 27, 2008 at 12:01 AM
McCain did ok. He had greater recall of names, dates, people, events on FP than Econ Pol.
He’ll need to bring up CRA, Obama’s record with ACORN, and other issues if he wants to wipe the floor with Obama though.
There are far too many stupid people in this country. You have to hold their hand, give them a bedtime story, and make the memorize the farkin points to get them to understand.
It’s embarrassing.
JP1986UM on September 27, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Uh….yeah. You’ve had your say. Now stick your head back in your ass.
ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Obama was sure confident that Kissinger said that. OOPS!
Makes one wonder how often he’ll misunderstand foreign leaders.
aikidoka on September 27, 2008 at 12:01 AM
What else of Michell’s does he wear?
Loxodonta on September 27, 2008 at 12:01 AM
McCain is winning handily on the Drudge poll. I guess that is because it is not easy for the libs to cheat.
bloggless on September 27, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Dial it back. Thacker has history here, and I enjoy bantering with him on various issues. The whole Obama thing aside, which just leaves me shaking me head and saying wth?
Spirit of 1776 on September 27, 2008 at 12:02 AM
OK folks, bar is closed. Time for some java and maybe a cab.
Limerick on September 27, 2008 at 12:02 AM
This is the brainwashed mentality that insures you will always only have that choice and none other.
Barr/Root 08
paulsur on September 27, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Why does anyone listen to the Luntz group? I have never even heard of these people, who cares what they say?
Terrye on September 27, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Well, this thread has become quite a mess.
Thanks, you dirty mouthed children.
Later.
VolMagic on September 27, 2008 at 12:02 AM
And he said it twice. If I were McCain, I woulda said “oh no! AQ is releasing tapes. Run for your lives!”
lorien1973 on September 27, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Maybe Palin will have to be the one to name names and go after the Dems on the economic meltdown. McCain is just too chummy with all his Senate pals to do that. That was the biggest disappointment for him in an otherwise overpowering night. This was a solid win for him even if some pundits are determined to grade it on a curve so that Obama gets a “tie.” Now he has to get ready for the economy debate, and come up with some more talking points than cutting spending and earmarks.
Dudley Smith on September 27, 2008 at 12:03 AM
battleoflepanto1571 on September 26, 2008 at 11:44 PM
We are already doing it. Pakistan and the US exchanged fire yesterday and we have bombed the mountain range.
Cindy Munford on September 27, 2008 at 12:03 AM
The PUMAs at NoQuarter are pretty unanimous that McCain won.
Speedwagon82 on September 27, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Hey you manly rash, and Whacker, would quit with the nasty language, please? This is not KOS.
bloggless on September 27, 2008 at 12:04 AM
ThackerAgency on September 26, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Manly Rash-POW McCain type of bet
ThackerAgency-Squeaky Obambi type of bet
Manly Rash +1
Saltysam on September 27, 2008 at 12:04 AM
And you’re a brain impaired idiot if you believe that.
rplat on September 27, 2008 at 12:04 AM
That, and the fact that Idjits don’t spend much time on the internet. Those who do are busy on their Facebook accounts and never heard of this thing called “Drudge Report.”
ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Highly intelligent post. Go ahead vote for a republicrat.
Feel good about it to, you sheep!
paulsur on September 27, 2008 at 12:04 AM
But you should not give false hope
In this strange and mournful way
When the reality and polls reunion
Is only a few days away
Tav on September 27, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Buzz off.
ManlyRash on September 27, 2008 at 12:05 AM
What I found particularly fascinating was when Obama was talking about how we’ve lost status in the rest of the world and that their children don’t look at us in the same way they did when his father wanted to come to school here in the 1960s. Isn’t it the American left and like-minded folks around the world who have been trash-talking America into this diminished position ever since they had the presidency “stolen” from them back in 2000? Exactly who is it that has planted the seeds of “America is bad” in the world’s meme pool?
Mibrilane on September 27, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Yeah, I’ll bet:
I bet you’ve always been a leftard with no worthwhile ideas
I bet you enjoy arguing, and incurring abuse ( what that says about your personality…… )
I bet you have a second account here, and have nothing to lose.
I bet you should change your nic to “Whacker Agency” because………
Janos Hunyadi on September 27, 2008 at 12:05 AM
When Obama spoke, the camera split the screen with both candidates.
When McCain spoke, the camera had to cut away to a long shot because Obama kept fidgeting and using his eyes and mannerisms to try to get the attention of the commentator. Anyone who has children knows the routine. The eye-pleading “are you going to let this guy keep talking” schtick is beyond annoying. Then there was that jaw jutted in the air routine, no wonder he has his own presidential seal and gold coins.
obladioblada on September 27, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Just a small note about that quote above about Sadat going to Israel in 1982??? Sadat was murdered in 81 making that quite unlikely….I think he first went to Israel in 77 or 78 if memory serves..
Albertanator on September 27, 2008 at 12:05 AM
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