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Did McCain answer a 3 AM call?

posted at 9:55 am on September 25, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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CBS News reports that John McCain suspended his campaign as a response to a call from Henry Paulson to rescue the bailout plan, which would have headed for defeat without his leadership. Bob Schieffer reported this morning that McCain flew back to Washington to help reach a compromise that would allow Republicans to support a form of bailout, and that without his help, efforts to resolve the crisis would have collapsed:

I am told, Maggie, that the way McCain got involved in this in the first place, the Treasury Secretary was briefing Republicans in the House yesterday, the Republican conference, asked how many were ready to support the bailout plan. Only four of them held up their hands. Paulson then called, according to my sources, Senator Lindsey Graham, who is very close to John McCain, and told him: you’ve got to get the people in the McCain campaign, you’ve got to convince John McCain to give these Republicans some political cover. If you don’t do that, this whole bailout plan is going to fail. So that’s how, McCain, apparently, became involved.

He has gotten what he wants, he’s going to have this meeting, kind of a summit today with the president and Barack Obama. I’m told that the leaders of both parties are getting close to having some kind of a bill. The question, though, is whether rank-and-file Republicans, especially, are going to vote for this.

This makes quite a bit of sense for those of us who have followed the trek of this bill on Capitol Hill. Republicans had rebelled against the idea of a bailout, mainly on principle, not wanting to use taxpayer money to subsidize market stupidity. McCain, being the party leader now, needed to provide leadership and also to work a bill into something that would be more palatable for Republicans in Congress to support, even with reluctance.

It also puts an interesting light on his offer to Barack Obama to return with him to Washington. Having been told of Paulson’s request, McCain decided to return — but then offered to have Obama return with him in order to make it an election-neutral decision.  McCain even offered to suspend the campaign.  Obama refused, and McCain went back by himself. Bush then summoned Obama back to keep Democrats from backing away from a bill they have supported over the last few days.  If McCain can succeed in getting changes in the bill with the points he has been making from the campaign trail, he can put his own stamp on this bill and have yet another example of his work as a crisis manager and bipartisan reformer.

This is a case of life imitating art, if one can describe campaign ads as such.  Hillary Clinton’s campaign put out an ad stating that Obama wasn’t ready to answer a 3 AM call during a crisis.  This call may not have literally come at 3 AM, but clearly Obama wasn’t ready to lead.  McCain, on the other hand, understood the nature of the call and responded appropriately.

Update: I’ve been having troubles with WordPress in embedding this video; you can watch it at the Newsbusters in the first link, or here at Eyeblast if it still won’t embed properly.


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I just called the offices of my two senators and told them that I did not know enough to make a decision on whether to support or oppose the bailout and that I wanted them to make a thoughtful decision on how to best protect my retirement savings. The two offices told me that the call was a first for both of them and were very appreciative that I didn’t call and scream at them.

bopbottle on September 25, 2008 at 10:38 AM

Just added the video again, should be working now.

Ed Morrissey on September 25, 2008 at 10:38 AM

It is not the federal government’s responsibility to protect us from recessions. Recessions are a natural part of the economic cycle in a free market system.

paulsur on September 25, 2008 at 10:27 AM

This is something that has bothered me: Bush and Paulson talk about the threat of a recession as if we’ve never had recessions before (I am not saying I want a recession). I am not hearing about a global economic collapse or anything.

If the government is forever going to intervene with taxpayer dollars every time the economy tightens, well, then, kiss your free market society goodbye.

Another thing: The group of people in panic mode and advocating for this huge bailout seems to be very small — Bush, Paulson and a certain number of banks. I track global news, and the only widespread panic seems to be with a few people in DC and New York.

Am I misreading things?

BigD on September 25, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Bob Barr is the only presidential candidate that supports the position fo the majority of Americans on this coporate welfare thing.

Just say no

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paulsur on September 25, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Good deal. It would be nice if Dave went away for a couple weeks, but I don’t want to see him dissapear forever. I certainly don’t want to see you gone. Gooooooo McCain! -BadgerHawk on September 25, 2008 at 10:37 AM

If I didn’t believe Mac and Fox were gonna win I would not have made the bet. And I’m sure Rywall knows it or he wouldn’t have weaseled out like he did.

ManlyRash on September 25, 2008 at 10:40 AM

Which one? The one from Phil Gramm in ‘99 pimping for support of de-regulating investment banks via theGramm-Leach-Bliley Act that McCain voted for? Or was it the 3 AM phone calls from Rick Davis over the past 8 years asking McCain to support his cash rich clients in the mortgage loan industry?

Fletch54 on September 25, 2008 at 10:11 AM

Those guys are all polite enough to call during normal business hours. A crisis is rarely so polite.

BadgerHawk on September 25, 2008 at 10:41 AM

Please call/email your comgressmen today and tell them to say no to the $29 billion bailout for the auto industry. We can not afford two bailouts in a week.

paulsur on September 25, 2008 at 10:36 AM

I believe the automakers got their $25B in the spending bill passed yesterday. Whether anyone wants to buy their cars is another question. I know for certain that I will never buy a plug-in piece of GM crap that only goes 40 miles.

BigD on September 25, 2008 at 10:42 AM

It was Obama who made the initial call to McCain and opened the door on this. That seems to be an established fact. How does answering the call make McCain more of a leader than Obama.

lexhamfox on September 25, 2008 at 10:43 AM

Who does this bailout benefit? Warren Buffet, that’s who.
Buffet just bought a $5 billion stake in Goldman Sachs. He gets to buy at a discount to the current stock price. If the feds basil out the banks, Goldman’s price goes up, and Buffet benefits just from the discount. A discount that you and I dont get if we bug Goldmsn stock. Even if the stock price doesnt move at all, he automatically makes 13% on his investment.

paulsur on September 25, 2008 at 10:44 AM

The 3:00 AM call came and went to Obama’s answering machine.

TooTall on September 25, 2008 at 10:03 AM

Actually, it was tranfered to a local bowling alley.

Rovin on September 25, 2008 at 10:46 AM

The one from Phil Gramm in ‘99 pimping for support of de-regulating investment banks via theGramm-Leach-Bliley Act that McCain voted for?

Robert Rubin (D, Bill Clinton’s Treasury Secretary) says GLB had nothing to do with the present mess. In fact, by allowing commercial and investment banks to consolidate, GLB has contributed to the rescue of financial firms that would otherwise have failed, actually mitigating the problems.

Again, it’s not a question of “regulation” vs. “de-regulation”, but of “appropriate regulation”.

The Monster on September 25, 2008 at 10:47 AM

It was Obama who made the initial call to McCain and opened the door on this. That seems to be an established fact. How does answering the call make McCain more of a leader than Obama.

lexhamfox on September 25, 2008 at 10:43 AM

What are you talking about? I believe Obama called and left a message for McCain but didn’t specify what about. And if he did, all he wanted to do was release a statement. McCain is actually trying to get something done. Agree or disagree, McCain is a guy who tries to get things done. Both Paulson and Reid have said that without McCain’s leadership this ball can’t get passed.

Talk vs. Action. It’s pretty clear who the leader is.

BadgerHawk on September 25, 2008 at 10:49 AM

Chris Dodd, chairman of the Senate Banking Committee:”I have heard from Obama numerous occasions these last couple days. I have never heard from John McCain on the issue.”

Chris Dodd’s not writing this bill, dumbass. It’s being written at the leadership level and is going straight to the floor in the House and Senate when it is done. They wanted people who actually knew what they were doing. Chris Dodd is a buffoon who nobody in the leadership listens to an anything. He is lucky he still has a job after doing nothing on Fannie and Freddie for two years. John McCain isn’t wasting his time calling this moron. If Obama is, that just makes him even stupider.

rockmom on September 25, 2008 at 10:52 AM

Obama spent three days huddling with Bill Clinton’s economic team and all he can do is call John McCain and ask for a joint statement. He might as well just announce that he knows how to fix everything because he stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night!

Hero vs. Zero

rockmom on September 25, 2008 at 10:54 AM

t was Obama who made the initial call to McCain and opened the door on this. That seems to be an established fact. How does answering the call make McCain more of a leader than Obama.

lexhamfox on September 25, 2008 at 10:43 AM

Obama calling McCain looking for a photo-op and joint statement is not going to do anything in getting other representatives to find ways to work out this serious problem.

Obama only opened the door to platitudes and talk,which is
exactly what we would get from him on serious international
and domestic issues if he became President.

McCain took the risk of postponing his campaign and a debate where he clearly holds the advantage (foreign policy)
to take action and do what needed to be done by going to Capital Hill and dealing with his constituents directly.

There is a big difference and Obama has been exposed for the lightweight poser that he is.

Baxter Greene on September 25, 2008 at 10:54 AM

BadgerHawk on September 25, 2008 at 10:49 AM

Looks like the astroturfers are at work again, trying to spread the “Obama is the real leader for making a phone call” meme.

Slublog on September 25, 2008 at 10:54 AM

I’ve seen comments like that at multiple sites.

Slublog on September 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM

Using the government to try to “prevent recessions” is like sealing up a boiler on a steam ship to get more speed. Sure, you’ll get your speed, but the boiler will eventually explode, killing you.

spmat on September 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM

Personally I am beginning to think McCain is in a damned if you do – damned if you don’t situation. He suspends his campaign so that he can personally deal with this and it’s called a “gimmick” because “he’s lost ground in some polls.” If he didn’t do anything then he’s “not concerned enough” about the “crisis” and showing “how weak he is on Economic Issues”…… Even though he was asked to come back to Washington by the Secretary of the Treasury and Hairy Reid asked him to come back before he was against him coming back (this seems to be a very big Democrat trend these days)….
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I think people are forgetting that he is a Senator first, running for president second and McCain seems to take that seriously.
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Obama will most likely get a “pass” from the media no matter what he does on this.
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Also I bet Obama is kicking himself for not coming up with this idea first…….. Though if he had been in Washington and not out on the trail he probably would have just voted present anyway so that his finger prints would not be attached to another “hot topic” that he isn’t sure he wants to be associated with in the future.

HouseHold6 on September 25, 2008 at 10:57 AM

I’ve seen comments like that at multiple sites.

Slublog on September 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM

Linky linky, Slu. Give us the scoop!

spmat on September 25, 2008 at 10:57 AM

When it comes to Obama’s leadership skills as a legislator on critical issues remember, you can’t spell “president” without “present”.

jon1979 on September 25, 2008 at 10:59 AM

The division here is in what remains of the conservative wing of the Republican party. McCain will get the conservatives to join him for the same reason conservatives fell in line for President Bush. We don’t have to like it.

Angry Dumbo on September 25, 2008 at 11:02 AM

It was Obama who made the initial call to McCain and opened the door on this. That seems to be an established fact.

lexhamfox on September 25, 2008 at 10:43 AM

It is??!!

Funny, the only people/sites reporting this “fact” are pro-Obama people.

Get back to us when a (fairly) non-biased news source reports on this and gives us the details on who actually who, what was said, and when the call was made.

Religious_Zealot on September 25, 2008 at 11:04 AM

If it takes losing a war or losing the financial markets to make Obama president then he will do both.

jukin on September 25, 2008 at 11:05 AM

Osama’s not realy going to come all the way up to D.C. just to vote “Present” is he?

During these crucial meetings do you think Obama will be passing notes to the senators next to him, whining about how bored he is?

SaintOlaf on September 25, 2008 at 11:07 AM

Looks like the astroturfers are at work again, trying to spread the “Obama is the real leader for making a phone call” meme.

Slublog on September 25, 2008 at 10:54 AM

I don’t mind liberals wanting to argue against McCain, but show a little intellectual honesty, please. The fake comments and talking point arguments about how a phone call = leadership or blaming McCain for any of this mess, or saying he wants to fight a 100 year war… it got old a long time ago. The whole astroturfing thing is pretty transparent too.

Making mindless, intellectually dishonest arguments for or against either candidate means I’m not going to take anything you have to say seriously.

BadgerHawk on September 25, 2008 at 11:07 AM

It was Obama who made the initial call to McCain and opened the door on this. That seems to be an established fact. How does answering the call make McCain more of a leader than Obama.
lexhamfox on September 25, 2008 at 10:43 AM

Obama, like always, wants to take credit for talking about doing something after McCain actually acted on doing something. Obama just wants us to know he thought of it first as if the action were secondary.

Obama is all talk.

geckomon on September 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM

This is encouraging news, but it would be extremely helpful if the Republican, or “conservative” pundits would get over themselves and help to get the message out.

Are you hearing me, Bill Sammon and Charles Krauthammer?

anniekc on September 25, 2008 at 10:34 AM

You’re joking right?

To call Krauthammer and Kondracke a pundit?

All of them are the chattering class to us and irrelevant!!

Mcguyver on September 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM

It’s too early to tell but this might be a game winning move by McCain. I’ve been posting at another forum dominated by Obamabots and they’re literally laughing and are quite gleeful over this “disastrous” move by McCain but I wonder for how long they’ll be laughing if this goes the way I think (hope) it might go come election day.

Yakko77 on September 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM

Obama is all talk.

geckomon on September 25, 2008 at 11:18 AM

About uh and ahs that is.

Mcguyver on September 25, 2008 at 11:19 AM

Ol’ Annie Coulter has a new column on the genesis of this whole mess which pretty much nails the Democrats to the barn door…as you’d expect with Ms. Coulter….

The crisis came about because of bad loans…created by a subversion of sound banking and loan practices…the result of pandering to a constituency…at the expense of more deserving and qualified borrowers…and now both the undeserving deadbeat borrowers and their Leftist enablers are being bailed out…as we have no choice: either bail out the bad guys or see the whole barn collapse.

…a bad spot to be in.

Of course, it’s being blamed on Mr. Bush entirely, and, asleep at the switch, he’s in line for some blame. That the Democrats won’t get any is the real injustice. Their involvement ill be swept under the rug where only wonks and political junkies and bloggers will have it to chew in…impotently….

…Obama wants to bring about “change”? Here’s a suggestion: knock off the “feel-good” crap and stop subsidizing cultural ruin.

Puritan1648 on September 25, 2008 at 11:28 AM

This is so freaking funny!!!!:

“What I think is important is that we don’t suddenly infuse Capitol Hill with presidential politics,” Obama said before cameras in Florida

Noooooooo… let’s not infuse Capitol Hill with politics!!!

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Mcguyver on September 25, 2008 at 11:33 AM

Someone on Fox said it was ironic that Harry Reid and the press praised Obama for returning to DC for other votes, but criticizing McCain for doing this.

I think we have to accept the fact that the media is in the tank for Obama and will never publish anything that in any way makes McCain/Palin look good. And worse, they will make even the good things look bad. All we can do is hope the people see though this, but I’m afraid that might be asking too much. If Obama wins, it is not only a win for his Party and beliefs, it will be a win for bias in the media, which will make future elctions for Moderates or Conservatives almost impossible.

Deanna on September 25, 2008 at 11:33 AM

Mcguyver on September 25, 2008 at 10:28 AM

A commenter made a comment, and you turned around and attacked Allah for something someone else said. This was what I was referring to:

Take note AllahPundit… this is why pussy footing around, worrying, analyzing about what the liberals response will be is so disgusting to me.

If you forget about trying to impress your liberal girlfriends, your head will clear up real nicely.

Mcguyver on September 25, 2008 at 10:14 AM</blockquote

This blog is all about analysis, and politics is all about anticipating the next move in the chess game. That is not the same thing as surrendering to the opposition.

Buy Danish on September 25, 2008 at 11:33 AM

No soup for you! (Video does not exist)

Weebork on September 25, 2008 at 11:33 AM

I wonder if David Letterman will have the decency to issue an apology if this is true.

Guster1 on September 25, 2008 at 11:33 AM

Obama has been practicing for the debates and has been having withdrawal symptoms of talking on stage without the teleprompter. He has got the teleprompter withdrawal “Uh,uh,uh” stuttering shakes really bad.

He is just now getting out of the habit of looking around the room for the teleprompter to give him the answer.
Next is walking and talking at the same time without the aid of a teleprompter.

Obama needs the debate over on Friday. Any further delays of going back on the teleprompter by Obama could cause the DTs; profound confusion of political platform, disorientation of his political positions and hallucinations that he really is the One.

albill on September 25, 2008 at 11:34 AM

Sorry – the last sentence should not be part of the quote:

This blog is all about analysis, and politics is all about anticipating the next move in the chess game. That is not the same thing as surrendering to the opposition.

Buy Danish on September 25, 2008 at 11:35 AM

3 am call, chuckle …

well what exactly is Old John doing in DC now (although he is not there yet as he went to NY not DC, I guess the phones work there so he can keep in contact with his staff in DC), but what is he going to do. He is not WRITING any law, he is not on the committee. His only job will be to bring the GOP along with the bill that the dems and gop are writing now. There are a ton of conservative gop congressman who will NOT support any deal that bails out Wall Street correctly stating they are not in the “big business” business.

So help me get this straight, old John is going to deliver these congressman to a more moderate stance?

Stay tuned. The stunt remains a stunt.

Monkei on September 25, 2008 at 11:39 AM

I wonder if David Letterman will have the decency to issue an apology if this is true.

oh well maybe old john should have stuck with his scheduled appearance with Letterman instead of claiming he needed to go back quickly to DC to save the world from the oncoming meteor from space, I guess sort of like Morgan Freeman did. But … he has yet to make it to DC and did have time to see Katie Couric …

Yeah Dave should apologize all right.

Monkei on September 25, 2008 at 11:41 AM

Danish,
This is an ongoing complaint of mine regarding Allah’s pussy footing around with analysis that stifles our sides attack on the Liberals’ intimidation tactics.

Take a chill pill and grow a pair.

Mcguyver on September 25, 2008 at 11:44 AM

Good for McCain. He knows what is important and urgent.
He clearly has IT!
Roll on John to lead the nation.

Muskoka-Eh on September 25, 2008 at 11:45 AM

I wish that when President Bush summoned Obama to Washington, he would have made the call at 3AM. That would have been awesome.

As it is it’s pretty awesome that after Obama had a press conference to explain that he isn’t needed in Washington, the President called him up and summoned him back. Haha…Barack Obama, bending to the will of the President he hates and campaings against! Sweet justice.

t.ferg on September 25, 2008 at 11:46 AM

Stay tuned. The stunt remains a stunt.

Monkei on September 25, 2008 at 11:39 AM

So says your organ grinder Obama. Remember to tip your hat to look even more cute.

geckomon on September 25, 2008 at 11:47 AM

If Obama wins, it is not only a win for his Party and beliefs, it will be a win for bias in the media, which will make future elctions for Moderates or Conservatives almost impossible.

Deanna on September 25, 2008 at 11:33 AM

And that right there is the ultimate goal of the Left. Unopposed power.

Jonah Goldberg’s latest book is very appropriately titled.

Gilda on September 25, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Obama, like always, wants to take credit for talking about doing something after McCain actually acted on doing something. Obama just wants us to know he thought of it first as if the action were secondary.

Can someone explain what “suspending my campaign” means? McCain still is not in DC, he gave a speech in NY at the Global Initiative and his economist Nancy Pfotenhauer is still holding campaign work this morning at 11am. So, what part of suspension is suspending. It is also my understanding that McCain ads are still ongoing in battleground states.

This guy is not the 2000 version anymore of honor, he has become a shock candidate. Throw crap out and see what sticks.

Gary Hart’s episode of daring the press should also be an example … McCain should have kept his jaw shut about Rick Davis and his ties … what a loser candidate. But he still might win.

Monkei on September 25, 2008 at 11:50 AM

So says your organ grinder Obama. Remember to tip your hat to look even more cute.

But you fell for the trick!

Monkei on September 25, 2008 at 11:51 AM

If Obama wins, it is not only a win for his Party and beliefs, it will be a win for bias in the media, which will make future elctions for Moderates or Conservatives almost impossible.

Deanna on September 25, 2008 at 11:33 AM

And that right there is the ultimate goal of the Left. Unopposed power.

Jonah Goldberg’s latest book is very appropriately titled.

Gilda on September 25, 2008 at 11:49 AM

Goldberg wrote a book to sell money, just like people on the left and the right do … you obviously chose to believe 100% of what he says and deny 100% of say what another write writes, like anyone critical of Mr 19% or his incredibly successful administration.

Monkei on September 25, 2008 at 11:53 AM

If Obama wins, it is not only a win for his Party and beliefs, it will be a win for bias in the media, which will make future elctions for Moderates or Conservatives almost impossible.

Deanna on September 25, 2008 at 11:33 AM

Yes, and that’s precisely what’s happened in Europe, where even those that call themselves conservatives are now to the left of many of our Democrats.

blue13326 on September 25, 2008 at 12:06 PM

I’ve seen comments like that at multiple sites.

Slublog on September 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM

I play in political chat rooms at night… if I am not busy. Last night I was just tired but wanted to see what people were saying. The Obama calling McCain crap is about the dumbest thing. I had to set a few straight on numerous occations.. until my nose hit the keyboard.

upinak on September 25, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Check out the Radio Factor. Bill is pissed and he’s taking it out on Barney Frank. Classic.

thedudesblog on September 25, 2008 at 12:15 PM

you obviously chose to believe 100% of what he says and deny 100% of say what another write writes

Monkei on September 25, 2008 at 11:53 AM

OMG you are so correct! All this time I’ve been trying to cover for my shocking propensity to “of say what another write writes” and here you are in our very first encounter revealing my true nature to the whole wide world.

I guess I’m out of the closet now, kids. C’mon everybody, join in and “of say what another write writes” along with me while we thank our lucky stars an intellect of Monkei’s caliber has deigned to bestow his vast wisdom upon our puny selves.

p.s. Drunk in the daytime is no way to go through life, son.

Gilda on September 25, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Honestly, don’t you have the clear feeling that McCain does not need to prepare for the debate. He has core values and beliefs. He has a history. He has been involved. All the while, Obama must prepare extensively so they can determine exactly what his positions are and then how he can support those.

CC

CapedConservative on September 25, 2008 at 12:18 PM

I was against the Chrysler bailout many years ago. In retrospect I was wrong. Chrysler paid back the money. A major manufacturer was retained in the USA along with the supplier market. People around Detroit are familiar with the many small companies that supplied to auto. Chrysler got sold later but it is still making cars and trucks in the US

I pulled this comment from the comment section of an ABC news report on the crisis

John McCain is right. Fire Chairman Cox, head of the SEC.
I have bought and sold stocks since 1965. I shorted stocks from time to time, covered the stock and never were there any concerns with the market. Then, naked shorts and hedge funds came along and the market was for the big boys. The naked short selling destroyed some companies by driving the stock to essentially no value. A stock needs investors that trust the company and its stock. No one can trust a company when the stock drops and finally sells for 10 cent in the pink sheets.
There are companies that went bust and the naked shorts never did cover the stock. The hedge funds walked away with profits. Ex-hedge fund manager Jim Cramer of thestreet.com told the story of hedge funds. He never admitted to doing any wrong, but as he said, a hedge fund manger could drive a stock to nothing.
Chairman Cox knew of the naked shorts, but did not give much concern to the practice of selling a stock you did not own and did not cover. The big boys ignore the three-day rule. (exerpted from a post by Judge | Sep 25, 2008 8:53:24 AM at ABC news)

A bunch of banking loopholes went in too and greed follows the loopholes. It doens’t matter who got fleeced, we have to save our own hides now. Buffett is taking profit but he also reduced the bailout problem by boosting the stock he just bought. I think all the ultra rich retirees like Gates ought to take a billion or two and shore up a business. Unless we want the Chinese to take their trillion reserve and buy the same business after October for a tenth they are valued this morning.

China has banned it’s banks from lending to our banks today

Basically China has told its banks, don’t buy now, wait for the crash

entagor on September 25, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Looks like the astroturfers are at work again, trying to spread the “Obama is the real leader for making a phone call” meme.

Slublog on September 25, 2008 at 10:54 AM

Those kids are good…….I just saw that comment floating in my toilet.

Old Hippie Vet on September 25, 2008 at 12:29 PM

The administration is in a real bind here. Whether or not the bailout will help is immaterial. If they do nothing (which may be the right thing to do in the long run), the public will certainly crucify them in the present.

Basically, it’s a lose-lose situation because this mess will take a long time to sort out with or without help from Uncle Sam.

m064404 on September 25, 2008 at 12:31 PM

Obama has run away from repeated request by McCain to join him in multiple debates; so yes, Obama did suggest postponing them first.

Obama whines wins.

geckomon on September 25, 2008 at 12:34 PM

…Obama must prepare extensively so they can determine exactly what his positions are and then how he can support those.

CapedConservative on September 25, 2008 at 12:18 PM

Or, more likely, how he can most effectively veil and obfuscate his actual positions enough to dupe the rubes into voting for him.

Gilda on September 25, 2008 at 12:39 PM

Right now America needs someone who can reach across the isle past partisan politics and get things done.

No wonder Obama doesn’t want to get involved, he’s out of his depth.

29Victor on September 25, 2008 at 12:41 PM

John Dickerson at Slate:

It’s not clear what, exactly, McCain is going to do in Washington. He doesn’t sit on any of the relevant committees, and everyone is already deep in negotiations. Still, he’s coming anyway. It doesn’t make much logical sense. The only way to understand it is politically: In a presidential campaign, the surest sign that a candidate is playing politics on an issue is when he claims not to be playing politics on an issue. The only way for McCain to convince everyone that his intentions are 100 percent pure is for him to drop out of the race completely. A campaign doesn’t end—and its distracting affects don’t disappear—just because one candidate says so.

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:02 PM

McCain gets a call that says we need you and drops everything to work on a crisis. Obama says I’ll phone it in. “Call me if you need me”. What a contrast. High risk for McCain though.

ROMDOC on September 25, 2008 at 1:02 PM

John Dickerson at Slate:

Whether McCain’s crazy gambit is seen as desperate or brilliant, it doesn’t matter. Either way, it’s probably not the last. The beneficial effects of the Palin Hail Mary lasted only a few weeks, and another adrenaline injection was needed. If this one doesn’t work, that’s OK—in due time they can try another razzle-dazzle play. And if it does work, that’s great—in due time they can still try another razzle-dazzle play. It all makes the prospect of a McCain White House very exciting. So exciting, he might want to schedule periodic suspensions of his presidency to get anything done.

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:08 PM

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:08 PM

Good read. There’s no doubt that a McCain Presidency would be exciting. Slate’s one of the only lefty sites I enjoy. Unlike you, they tend to be intellectually honest.

BadgerHawk on September 25, 2008 at 1:13 PM

China has banned it’s banks from lending to our banks today

Basically China has told its banks, don’t buy now, wait for the crash

entagor on September 25, 2008 at 12:23 PM

Will they stop buying T-Bills too?

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:14 PM

John Dickerson at Slate:

It’s not clear what, exactly, McCain is going to do in Washington. He doesn’t sit on any of the relevant committees, and everyone is already deep in negotiations. Still, he’s coming anyway. It doesn’t make much logical sense.

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:02 PM

Wow does Dickerson look ignorant with this. McCain and Obama are both going back…to attend a White House meeting with congressional leaders.

RushBaby on September 25, 2008 at 1:15 PM

BOB SCHIEFFER: I am told, Maggie, that the way McCain got involved in this in the first place, the Treasury Secretary was briefing Republicans in the House yesterday, the Republican conference, asked how many were ready to support the bailout plan. Only four of them held up their hands. Paulson then called, according to my sources, Senator Lindsey Graham, who is very close to John McCain, and told him: you’ve got to get the people in the McCain campaign, you’ve got to convince John McCain to give these Republicans some political cover. If you don’t do that, this whole bailout plan is going to fail. So that’s how, McCain, apparently, became involved.

geckomon on September 25, 2008 at 1:23 PM

Wow does Dickerson look ignorant with this. McCain and Obama are both going back…to attend a White House meeting with congressional leaders.

RushBaby on September 25, 2008 at 1:15 PM

But do you really think that the congressional leaders have been just waiting breathlessly for those two, neither of whom has been in the senate much at all for months, to tell the rest of the prima donnas, who have been there, what to do?

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:25 PM

Just wanted to let KentAllard see what was quoted in this post since his comment citing seemed to reflect that he may have glossed over anything past the headline.

geckomon on September 25, 2008 at 1:27 PM

But do you really think that the congressional leaders have been just waiting breathlessly for those two, neither of whom has been in the senate much at all for months, to tell the rest of the prima donnas, who have been there, what to do?

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:25 PM

A bit melodramatic? Both Obama and McCain are senators first! McCain decided to go to D.C. to be where he was elected to be, and participate in an arena that he was elected to do. You object? Obama objects?

Obama is obviously hiding behind a Presidential debate because he knows in the US Senate, he can’t just vote “present.”

geckomon on September 25, 2008 at 1:32 PM

I asked both of my Senators to support a bill. I think it is necessary. I figure erring on the side of caution would be the most intelligent thing to do right now. The S&L bailout actually netted a profit for the Treasury. I am in the hopes that even if this plan does not do that, it will not ultimately costs $700 billion. I do think that if the economy goes into a sudden and steep decline the losses will be a lot more than $700 billion anyway.

Terrye on September 25, 2008 at 1:33 PM

Kent:

The sad thing is that people find it so amazing that two US Senators should do their jobs. They were elected to represent the needs of their constituents.

Terrye on September 25, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Slate’s one of the only lefty sites I enjoy. Unlike you, they tend to be intellectually honest.

BadgerHawk on September 25, 2008 at 1:13 PM

Well that really makes sense. I quote from a site that you say is intellectually honest and you say that I am not intellectually honest. I guess if I quoted from a site that you said was not intellectually honest then you would think that I was intellectually honest.

Brilliant.

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:41 PM

The sad thing is that people find it so amazing that two US Senators should do their jobs. They were elected to represent the needs of their constituents.

Terrye on September 25, 2008 at 1:35 PM

Alright, then you pick up the $700,000,000,000.00 tab.

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:43 PM

I am in the hopes that even if this plan does not do that, it will not ultimately costs $700 billion. I do think that if the economy goes into a sudden and steep decline the losses will be a lot more than $700 billion anyway.

Terrye on September 25, 2008 at 1:33 PM

Our overlords have scared trained you well.

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Our overlords have scared trained you well.

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:46 PM

Are you typing atop a unicorn again?

geckomon on September 25, 2008 at 1:49 PM

I asked both of my Senators to support a bill. I think it is necessary. I figure erring on the side of caution would be the most intelligent thing to do right now.

Terrye on September 25, 2008 at 1:33 PM

So do you think that we should spend, and never minding that it’s money we don’t have, $700,000,000,000.00 to err on the side of caution to fight Global Warming, just in case.

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Rush makes sense. It is imperative to place blame exactly where it belongs in order to correct the error of our legislated socialist economy. By playing blind to those responsible for creating this economic fiasco, we will enable it to further bloat, engorging our nation of citizens.

I fail to see the virtue at this moment for “bipartisan” if that means further compromise with Socialism!

The Progressive Democrats made this mess. They have absolutely no RIGHT to any demands as to the cure. They are stuck on stupid. Compromising with that is further failure.

Conservatism pure and simple is the actual cure. Conservatism is the antidote to viral Socialism gone epidemic. Call your legislators to legislate Newt’s proposal for a year on trial basis with the stipulation that ANY ECONOMIC PROGRESS will automatically maintain the unadulterated simple proposal as new legislation.

HOPE FOR CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!
FISCAL CONSERVATISM

Damn Pelosi/Reid/Obama to the Hellmark of Infamy.

maverick muse on September 25, 2008 at 1:52 PM

Are you typing atop a unicorn again?

geckomon on September 25, 2008 at 1:49 PM

The Unicorn is doing most of the typing right now. I’m eating lunch.

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:55 PM

I fail to see the virtue at this moment for “bipartisan” if that means further compromise with Socialism!

maverick muse on September 25, 2008 at 1:52 PM

Look just a little closer and you will see the virtue, for them anyway. It’s called the “virtue” of CYA.

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:58 PM

Brilliant.

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:41 PM

Thanks. : )

BadgerHawk on September 25, 2008 at 1:59 PM

The Unicorn is doing most of the typing right now. I’m eating lunch.

KentAllard on September 25, 2008 at 1:55 PM

Save room, crow is on your dinner menu.

geckomon on September 25, 2008 at 2:01 PM

The current situation is the exact reason the FDIC exists.

Assume there is no Paulson bailout. What happens is the failed bank(s) are merged into a sound bank, pays off the depositors (with money from congress) and assumes the loans itself. Then it auctions off the loans.

Paulson’s bailout bypasses the FDIC completely. The bailout keeps the existing banks in place, same management, buildings, etc. It’s a bailout of existing stockholders, whereas under FDIC the stockholders lose perhaps everything. Paulson’s plan also bails out those who loaned money to banks, as well as larger depositors.

In my view, the bailout is being pushed hard for three reasons. First, it’s political christmas. A good number in Washington will want their name attached to the “savior of the economy” bailout. Although it appears to be turning into a mix of christmas and football. Second, it bails out the stockholders and banks who made bad loans, at the expense of the taxpayers. Third, executive powergrab. Paulson says that he doesn’t want the responsibility (in regards to Section 8) but, I’m not buying it.

gyrmnix on September 25, 2008 at 2:04 PM

1) John McCain has 6 million constituents in Arizona who are being asked to fork over a lot of their tax dollars on this rescue. As he has always done, he is first and foremost going to look out for their interests and make sure their tax dollars are being spent wisely.

Barack Obama apparently believes his 11 million constituents don’t need any representation on the biggest piece of legislation since Medicare. He should resign his Senate seat immediately so that the Governor of Illinois can appoint a Senator who will do his/her job. Why did he want to be a Senator in the first place if he is going to abdicate on something this important to the wallets of the people of Illinois? I think we know the answer to that one.

2) Both of these men are the titular heads of their parties right now. Both sides have members who are very uneasy about this legislation and all of them are getting rained with phone calls and emails from angry citizens. They both have a responsibility to LEAD their fellow legislators in brokering a deal and making sure their followers are on board with it.

Barack Obama especially should realize that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are utterly incompetent and that Barney Frank and Chriss Dodd are irreparably tainted by their failure to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Because they are the majority party in Congress they are going to “one” this thing in the end and he is going to have to defend it for the rest of the campaign. That would argue for him coming back to Washington and getting involved directly.

3) One of these men is going to be President on January 21, 2009 and one of his biggest tasks will be the contonued cleanup of this wreckage. You would think that both of them would want a front-row seat in the negotiations since one of them is going to end up taking most of the responsibility for its success or failure. McCain obviously gets that. Obama doesn’t.

rockmom on September 25, 2008 at 2:06 PM

The dems created this problem pushing loans to people unable to possibly pay them. Once the problem was there a lot of other people jumped on the gravy train. However, the basic blame is squarely on the dems. They just won’t take the responsibility for it (of course they never take the blame for anything they cause).

duff65 on September 25, 2008 at 2:14 PM

So, McCain goes back to D.C. this morning to ride herd over the GOP and the deal comes together in three hours?

See, rockmom, McCain could have done this by cell phone and waited until this weekend to return for the final details.

jim m on September 25, 2008 at 2:31 PM

See, rockmom, McCain could have done this by cell phone and waited until this weekend to return for the final details.

jim m on September 25, 2008 at 2:31 PM

Or, McCain goes back to work (you know, country first) and does the debate via webcam from Washington.

geckomon on September 25, 2008 at 2:37 PM

And I’m sure Rywall knows it or he wouldn’t have weaseled out like he did.

ManlyRash on September 25, 2008 at 10:40 AM

He weaseled out?

csdeven on September 25, 2008 at 3:01 PM

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