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	<title>Comments on: A great example of how we got to the credit-market meltdown</title>
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		<title>By: The Subprime Marriage Crisis - An Analogy Between Same-Sex Marriage and the Credit Crisis &#171; Sixteen Small Stones</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Subprime Marriage Crisis - An Analogy Between Same-Sex Marriage and the Credit Crisis &#171; Sixteen Small Stones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 19:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Now, one thing that I should point out is that the video puts the blame for subprime mortgages squarely on the lenders and investors without mentioning that government programs intended to promote home ownership among lower income, minority families as a form of social engineering created artificial incentives for lenders to lend to subprime applicants. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now, one thing that I should point out is that the video puts the blame for subprime mortgages squarely on the lenders and investors without mentioning that government programs intended to promote home ownership among lower income, minority families as a form of social engineering created artificial incentives for lenders to lend to subprime applicants. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: HOW DEMOCRATS CREATED THE ECONOMIC CRISIS &#171; FactReal</title>
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		<dc:creator>HOW DEMOCRATS CREATED THE ECONOMIC CRISIS &#171; FactReal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CRISIS WAS CREATED 1. GOVERNMENT INTO PRIVATE SECTOR:Â Two quasi-government mortgage firms (Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac) went unpunished for their scams. 2. DEMOCRATSÂ WERE BRIBED: Democrats receivedÂ millions from [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] CRISIS WAS CREATED 1. GOVERNMENT INTO PRIVATE SECTOR:Â Two quasi-government mortgage firms (Fannie Mae &amp; Freddie Mac) went unpunished for their scams. 2. DEMOCRATSÂ WERE BRIBED: Democrats receivedÂ millions from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Prescience on the CRA and the current financial debacle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Prescience on the CRA and the current financial debacle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Two months ago, I noted how a September 1999 article in the Los Angeles Times praising the Clinton administration&#8217;s enforcement efforts of the Community Reinvestment Act inadvertently showed how they created the housing bubble by praising all of the excesses of the White House and Congress.Â  King Banaian pointed out a City Journal article from the following year that took a much-less complimentary look at the CRA and government use of it &#8212; and predicted almost exactly what would follow eight years later.Â  In fact, it also predicted the scope of the collapse: The Clinton administration has turned the Community Reinvestment Act, a once-obscure and lightly enforced banking regulation law, into one of the most powerful mandates shaping American citiesâ€”and, as Senate Banking Committee chairman Phil Gramm memorably put it, a vast extortion scheme against the nation&#8217;s banks. Under its provisions, U.S. banks have committed nearly $1 trillion for inner-city and low-income mortgages and real estate development projects, most of it funneled through a nationwide network of left-wing community groups, intent, in some cases, on teaching their low-income clients that the financial system is their enemy and, implicitly, that government, rather than their own striving, is the key to their well-being. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Two months ago, I noted how a September 1999 article in the Los Angeles Times praising the Clinton administration&#8217;s enforcement efforts of the Community Reinvestment Act inadvertently showed how they created the housing bubble by praising all of the excesses of the White House and Congress.Â  King Banaian pointed out a City Journal article from the following year that took a much-less complimentary look at the CRA and government use of it &#8212; and predicted almost exactly what would follow eight years later.Â  In fact, it also predicted the scope of the collapse: The Clinton administration has turned the Community Reinvestment Act, a once-obscure and lightly enforced banking regulation law, into one of the most powerful mandates shaping American citiesâ€”and, as Senate Banking Committee chairman Phil Gramm memorably put it, a vast extortion scheme against the nation&#8217;s banks. Under its provisions, U.S. banks have committed nearly $1 trillion for inner-city and low-income mortgages and real estate development projects, most of it funneled through a nationwide network of left-wing community groups, intent, in some cases, on teaching their low-income clients that the financial system is their enemy and, implicitly, that government, rather than their own striving, is the key to their well-being. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: as a community organizer obama trained ACORN staff, ran leadership training seminars for ACORN leaders and funded ACORN &#171; Freebies From The Obama Camp</title>
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		<dc:creator>as a community organizer obama trained ACORN staff, ran leadership training seminars for ACORN leaders and funded ACORN &#171; Freebies From The Obama Camp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] does a community organizer do? pressure banks to make bad loans &#187;&#160;&#160;a great example of how we got to the credit-market meltdown &#187;&#160;&#160;why the mortgage crisis happened (a chronology of all key events) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] does a community organizer do? pressure banks to make bad loans &raquo;&nbsp;&nbsp;a great example of how we got to the credit-market meltdown &raquo;&nbsp;&nbsp;why the mortgage crisis happened (a chronology of all key events) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ChooseTheHero.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obuddies</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChooseTheHero.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obuddies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ACORN and associated groups then pushed Fannie Mae to buy those risky loans, giving banks a  strong financial incentive to give out bad loans without worrying about whether the debt could be repaid. Eventually, we got the current [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ACORN and associated groups then pushed Fannie Mae to buy those risky loans, giving banks a  strong financial incentive to give out bad loans without worrying about whether the debt could be repaid. Eventually, we got the current [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dangerous Liaisons &#171; Quipster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dangerous Liaisons &#171; Quipster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It was insufficient for the banks to makeÂ risky mortagageÂ loans already,Â but then this risk was usurpedÂ byÂ Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac who would take on those loans in the secondary mortgage market.Â  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It was insufficient for the banks to makeÂ risky mortagageÂ loans already,Â but then this risk was usurpedÂ byÂ Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac who would take on those loans in the secondary mortgage market.Â  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: On the Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>On the Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;How Mighty Collapses Grow From ACORNs...&lt;/strong&gt;

What does a community organizer do?  Pressure banks to make bad loans
Stanley Kurtz takes a look at how the Community Reinvestment Act was
used by activist groups to pressure banks into lending money to
high-risk applicants, and how......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>How Mighty Collapses Grow From ACORNs&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>What does a community organizer do?  Pressure banks to make bad loans<br />
Stanley Kurtz takes a look at how the Community Reinvestment Act was<br />
used by activist groups to pressure banks into lending money to<br />
high-risk applicants, and how&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Party like it&#8217;s 1999 redux: The New York Times predicted Fannie Mae failure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Party like it&#8217;s 1999 redux: The New York Times predicted Fannie Mae failure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Last Thursday, I posted a celebratory 1999 Los Angeles Times analysis of the mechanisms that created the financial collapse nine years later.Â  Interestingly, the New York Times took a much different perspective when looking at the liberal lending policies promoted by Fannie Mae under Franklin Raines in that same year.Â  In fact, Steven Holmes predicted that an economic downturn would create the same kind of failure seen just ten years earlier in the savings-and-loan sector: In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Last Thursday, I posted a celebratory 1999 Los Angeles Times analysis of the mechanisms that created the financial collapse nine years later.Â  Interestingly, the New York Times took a much different perspective when looking at the liberal lending policies promoted by Fannie Mae under Franklin Raines in that same year.Â  In fact, Steven Holmes predicted that an economic downturn would create the same kind of failure seen just ten years earlier in the savings-and-loan sector: In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What does a community organizer do? Pressure banks to make bad loans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; What does a community organizer do? Pressure banks to make bad loans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote about this last week from the fascinating perspective of 1999, when this effort got mainstream media notice for its supposed success.Â  Now, however, no one [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wrote about this last week from the fascinating perspective of 1999, when this effort got mainstream media notice for its supposed success.Â  Now, however, no one [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What Lead to the Collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - Part 2 &#124; Right Wing Diva - The Right View from The Left Coast</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Lead to the Collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - Part 2 &#124; Right Wing Diva - The Right View from The Left Coast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A great example of how we got to the credit-market meltdown [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pope Linus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pope Linus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Normally, Iâ€™d say let the lenders drown.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Instead, can we march down to D.C. and drown the politicians responsible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Normally, Iâ€™d say let the lenders drown.</p></blockquote>
<p>Instead, can we march down to D.C. and drown the politicians responsible?</p>
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		<title>By: Housing Mess Started With Bill Clinton In 1999 - The Warpath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Housing Mess Started With Bill Clinton In 1999 - The Warpath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Housing Mess Started With Bill Clinton In 1999   Well for all of you blaming Bush for this mess look to your hero Bill Clinton who passed new lending laws in 1999.   Hot Air » Blog Archive » A great example of how we got to the credit-market meltdown [...]</p>
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		<title>By: oink oink&#8230;ACORN at the bailout trough &#171; Mcnorman&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>oink oink&#8230;ACORN at the bailout trough &#171; Mcnorman&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/25/a-great-example-of-how-we-got-to-the-credit-market-meltdown/    &#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/25/a-great-example-of-how-we-got-to-the-credit-market-meltdown/" rel="nofollow">http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/25/a-great-example-of-how-we-got-to-the-credit-market-meltdown/</a>    &nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WeatherOutpost12</title>
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		<dc:creator>WeatherOutpost12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A great example of how we got to the credit-market meltdown E.M. Hotair.com [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mr_Magoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr_Magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Itâ€™s one thing to stop discrimination â€” and another to do it in reverse to the point where even your target population is priced out of the market without the aid of actuarially unsound finance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agree wholeheartedly. Life, liberty and the &lt;strong&gt;pursuit of happiness&lt;/strong&gt;. What part of that guarantees everyone must own a home?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Itâ€™s one thing to stop discrimination â€” and another to do it in reverse to the point where even your target population is priced out of the market without the aid of actuarially unsound finance.</p></blockquote>
<p>Agree wholeheartedly. Life, liberty and the <strong>pursuit of happiness</strong>. What part of that guarantees everyone must own a home?</p>
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		<title>By: Fannie Mae &#38; Freddie Mac: &#8216;how we got to the credit-market meltdown&#8217; &#171; Zipline Conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fannie Mae &#38; Freddie Mac: &#8216;how we got to the credit-market meltdown&#8217; &#171; Zipline Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/25/a-great-example-of-how-we-got-to-the-credit-market-meltdown/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/25/a-great-example-of-how-we-got-to-the-credit-market-meltdown/" rel="nofollow">http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/25/a-great-example-of-how-we-got-to-the-credit-market-meltdown/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: what if?</title>
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		<dc:creator>what if?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dr. Frankenstein...&lt;/strong&gt;

As someone who subscribes to 12-step thinking, I believe in focusing on today. We cannot alter what happened yesterday - or a month ago or 6 years ago. Calculate where we are today, and what steps are best taken, given......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dr. Frankenstein&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>As someone who subscribes to 12-step thinking, I believe in focusing on today. We cannot alter what happened yesterday &#8211; or a month ago or 6 years ago. Calculate where we are today, and what steps are best taken, given&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Touching A Few Bases &#124; GoodBoys Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Touching A Few Bases &#124; GoodBoys Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 05:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are a lot of fingers you can use to point blame for the current economic crisis - as Ed Morrissey rightly points out, the landmines were laid a long time ago during the Clinton era - but I still believe that the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are a lot of fingers you can use to point blame for the current economic crisis &#8211; as Ed Morrissey rightly points out, the landmines were laid a long time ago during the Clinton era &#8211; but I still believe that the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vashta.Nerada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vashta.Nerada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Holy Canoli, thatâ€™s a lot of delinquent loans! Weâ€™re with Countrywide - nothing like finding out your mortgage company is frakked-up.

This has me seriously depressed. Itâ€™s going to be bad for this family, bailout or not.

Anna on September 25, 2008 at 6:32 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s ok - Countrywide sold a lot of their subprime to Fannie and Freddie....  Fran and Fred also own 30% of the $4 Trillion active CDO business (which needs to be written down by a good 30%) as well, so that will be a nice pill to swallow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Holy Canoli, thatâ€™s a lot of delinquent loans! Weâ€™re with Countrywide &#8211; nothing like finding out your mortgage company is frakked-up.</p>
<p>This has me seriously depressed. Itâ€™s going to be bad for this family, bailout or not.</p>
<p>Anna on September 25, 2008 at 6:32 PM
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<p>It&#8217;s ok &#8211; Countrywide sold a lot of their subprime to Fannie and Freddie&#8230;.  Fran and Fred also own 30% of the $4 Trillion active CDO business (which needs to be written down by a good 30%) as well, so that will be a nice pill to swallow.</p>
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		<title>By: The Baltimore Reporter</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Baltimore Reporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ed Morrissey writes about a LA Times article from 1999 that is pretty much a roadmap for how we got to this point: this LA Times article [...]</description>
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		<title>By: unclesmrgol</title>
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		<dc:creator>unclesmrgol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Captain, I complained several times, both over at Captain&#039;s Quarters and here.  The rapid rise in housing prices meant my kids could never ever afford to buy a house -- who can spend over a million here in LA for a fixer?  Once, houses cost twice your yearly income, and now they were up to 10-12 times it, and the banks were offering 50 year mortgages, because 30 years wasn&#039;t enough.  

It either had to end, or every customer had to be helped by Freddie and Fannie.

All this bailout stuff is predicated on blowing up the bubble again and going right back to doing the &quot;magic&quot; Congress mandated that the markets do.  It&#039;s not going to work.   You are right -- the government has to stop doing social engineering and leave the market alone.

It&#039;s one thing to stop discrimination -- and another to do it in reverse to the point where even your target population is priced out of the market without the aid of actuarially unsound finance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captain, I complained several times, both over at Captain&#8217;s Quarters and here.  The rapid rise in housing prices meant my kids could never ever afford to buy a house &#8212; who can spend over a million here in LA for a fixer?  Once, houses cost twice your yearly income, and now they were up to 10-12 times it, and the banks were offering 50 year mortgages, because 30 years wasn&#8217;t enough.  </p>
<p>It either had to end, or every customer had to be helped by Freddie and Fannie.</p>
<p>All this bailout stuff is predicated on blowing up the bubble again and going right back to doing the &#8220;magic&#8221; Congress mandated that the markets do.  It&#8217;s not going to work.   You are right &#8212; the government has to stop doing social engineering and leave the market alone.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing to stop discrimination &#8212; and another to do it in reverse to the point where even your target population is priced out of the market without the aid of actuarially unsound finance.</p>
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		<title>By: The Blog @ Spolitics &#187; A Trip to the Memory Hole: What Once Was Good Is Bad In Lending</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Blog @ Spolitics &#187; A Trip to the Memory Hole: What Once Was Good Is Bad In Lending</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hot Air, this trip to the memory hole revisits all the great things the Clinton administration was doing to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vashta.Nerada</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/25/a-great-example-of-how-we-got-to-the-credit-market-meltdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1460015</link>
		<dc:creator>Vashta.Nerada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#1 â€¦..

&gt;Can you show me any source (other than the numbers pulled out your ass) that these loans a decade ago where worth $1.5 Trillion?

Are you REALLY trying to say that the loans mentioned in the post = 1.5 Trillion? &lt;/blockquote&gt;


Yes, I am.  That source, plus several others point out that $1.5 trillion in subprime loans were carried by Fannie Mae.  Maybe you should take a third grade reading comprehension class.  At the very least do some basic research, and you will find out.  I&#039;m not your  babysitter.
â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”-

&lt;blockquote&gt;#2 youâ€™re an unrepentant moron. You answer was.

&gt;The FBI says that reports of suspicious mortgage activity increased by 10-fold from 2001 through 2007â€¦.

DUH That wasnâ€™t the loans in questionâ€¦ The loans in question ended in 1999 You just proved my point dimwit.


Diogenes of Sinope on September 25, 2008 at 7:17 PM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just how stupid are you?  The whole point of your argument was whether or not &lt;em&gt;Clinton changed the laws in 1995&lt;/em&gt;  to make it not only easy to get a subprime, but that Fannie Mae would be the carrier. Any loan made from &lt;em&gt;late 1995 until last Wednesday&lt;/em&gt; fell under those laws.  Are you so daft you don&#039;t understand this? Let me repeat it slowly for you.  Clinton changed the laws to make it easier to get a subprime loan without proper qualifications.  Clinton pushed Treasury Secretary Rubin to rewrite the redlining rules for banks, bypassing congressional oversight.  Ergo, many bad loans were underwritten by Fannie Mae, equal to a trillion and a half dollars in a portfolio of over $5 trillion.  Whether the loan was written in 1996 or 2006 is irrelevant.  What is relevant is that thousands of them began to default in 2007 and 2008.  What is more, his rule changes, by lowering the standards and forcing banks to make them introduced fraud on an unprecedented scale into the mortgage market. If you are really that stupid, perhaps you need to find a different blog to post on, maybe one that focuses in celebrity underwear or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#1 â€¦..</p>
<p>&gt;Can you show me any source (other than the numbers pulled out your ass) that these loans a decade ago where worth $1.5 Trillion?</p>
<p>Are you REALLY trying to say that the loans mentioned in the post = 1.5 Trillion? </p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, I am.  That source, plus several others point out that $1.5 trillion in subprime loans were carried by Fannie Mae.  Maybe you should take a third grade reading comprehension class.  At the very least do some basic research, and you will find out.  I&#8217;m not your  babysitter.<br />
â€”â€”â€”â€”â€”-</p>
<blockquote><p>#2 youâ€™re an unrepentant moron. You answer was.</p>
<p>&gt;The FBI says that reports of suspicious mortgage activity increased by 10-fold from 2001 through 2007â€¦.</p>
<p>DUH That wasnâ€™t the loans in questionâ€¦ The loans in question ended in 1999 You just proved my point dimwit.</p>
<p>Diogenes of Sinope on September 25, 2008 at 7:17 PM
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<p>Just how stupid are you?  The whole point of your argument was whether or not <em>Clinton changed the laws in 1995</em>  to make it not only easy to get a subprime, but that Fannie Mae would be the carrier. Any loan made from <em>late 1995 until last Wednesday</em> fell under those laws.  Are you so daft you don&#8217;t understand this? Let me repeat it slowly for you.  Clinton changed the laws to make it easier to get a subprime loan without proper qualifications.  Clinton pushed Treasury Secretary Rubin to rewrite the redlining rules for banks, bypassing congressional oversight.  Ergo, many bad loans were underwritten by Fannie Mae, equal to a trillion and a half dollars in a portfolio of over $5 trillion.  Whether the loan was written in 1996 or 2006 is irrelevant.  What is relevant is that thousands of them began to default in 2007 and 2008.  What is more, his rule changes, by lowering the standards and forcing banks to make them introduced fraud on an unprecedented scale into the mortgage market. If you are really that stupid, perhaps you need to find a different blog to post on, maybe one that focuses in celebrity underwear or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr_Magoo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/25/a-great-example-of-how-we-got-to-the-credit-market-meltdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1459813</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr_Magoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You and Mr.Magoo can just go screw yourselves.

And what is with that GAY **eats** thing ANYWAY.

Sorry&gt;&gt;&gt;I have a PMS rage cominâ€™ on so step aside you two MORON NEWBS.

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 6:00 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;I am sure you are right, but I work VERY HARD at what I doâ€¦and I do it from somewhere besides my momâ€™s basement, like these two cheeto eaters. I predate them, and I resent their hubris.

::thank you for the wine, upinak::: ;)

seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 6:06 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t know you from Adam or Eve. I don&#039;t know if you are calling Ed and Allah or me and Grue cheeto eaters. Your qualifications, who you&#039;re friends with, and how hard you work don&#039;t mean jack to me. You were ranting like a spoiled child and someone mocked you. Big deal. So you are sooooo professional that your response is &quot;go screw yourselves&quot; and then make gay jokes? Kind of hard to take you seriously after that drama show.

And if you are referring to me as a basement dwelling cheeto eater, you are way off base. I&#039;ve worked hard all my life too - over 40 years. Married 34 years, own a home, enjoy a cold beer when I get home, pay taxes, and am concerned about the direction my country is going. 

So you stay away from me and I&#039;ll stay away from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You and Mr.Magoo can just go screw yourselves.</p>
<p>And what is with that GAY **eats** thing ANYWAY.</p>
<p>Sorry&gt;&gt;&gt;I have a PMS rage cominâ€™ on so step aside you two MORON NEWBS.</p>
<p>seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 6:00 PM</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I am sure you are right, but I work VERY HARD at what I doâ€¦and I do it from somewhere besides my momâ€™s basement, like these two cheeto eaters. I predate them, and I resent their hubris.</p>
<p>::thank you for the wine, upinak::: ;)</p>
<p>seejanemom on September 25, 2008 at 6:06 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t know you from Adam or Eve. I don&#8217;t know if you are calling Ed and Allah or me and Grue cheeto eaters. Your qualifications, who you&#8217;re friends with, and how hard you work don&#8217;t mean jack to me. You were ranting like a spoiled child and someone mocked you. Big deal. So you are sooooo professional that your response is &#8220;go screw yourselves&#8221; and then make gay jokes? Kind of hard to take you seriously after that drama show.</p>
<p>And if you are referring to me as a basement dwelling cheeto eater, you are way off base. I&#8217;ve worked hard all my life too &#8211; over 40 years. Married 34 years, own a home, enjoy a cold beer when I get home, pay taxes, and am concerned about the direction my country is going. </p>
<p>So you stay away from me and I&#8217;ll stay away from you.</p>
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		<title>By: burt</title>
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		<dc:creator>burt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Ed.  For the last couple of weeks I have been fearful that when people look back thirty years from now they will equate the legislation during Clinton with Smoot-Halley of the Hoover term and the current finagling with that of Roosevelt with similar results.  This is not intended as a compliment to any of these Presidents.  Hoover&#039;s time produced a severe recession;  under Roosevelt it turned into a long term depression which didn&#039;t end until an external event, WW II, interceded.  If any of these affects come to pass, it will of course follow a different time line, as you point out, since we have not even entered a recession.  I don&#039;t expect that all this will happen, but a short while ago I was confident that we would not have a recession this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Ed.  For the last couple of weeks I have been fearful that when people look back thirty years from now they will equate the legislation during Clinton with Smoot-Halley of the Hoover term and the current finagling with that of Roosevelt with similar results.  This is not intended as a compliment to any of these Presidents.  Hoover&#8217;s time produced a severe recession;  under Roosevelt it turned into a long term depression which didn&#8217;t end until an external event, WW II, interceded.  If any of these affects come to pass, it will of course follow a different time line, as you point out, since we have not even entered a recession.  I don&#8217;t expect that all this will happen, but a short while ago I was confident that we would not have a recession this time.</p>
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